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| 06:35.08 | masked | hi |
| 06:47.35 | rob_w | hey masked |
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| 07:02.58 | masked | sup rob_w ? |
| 07:03.11 | masked | i just got the Familiar bootup screen :) |
| 07:10.01 | masked | how long should it take to boot? |
| 07:10.25 | masked | i think it hung, so i rebooted to login and disable apm but my usbnet device isn't there anymore |
| 07:10.38 | masked | iono if its still loading the appropriate modules or what.. |
| 07:10.43 | masked | maybe im just impatient? |
| 07:16.33 | masked | err tis just stuck on booting and i can't login! tehehe |
| 07:19.28 | masked | hrmm weird.. |
| 07:19.36 | masked | i can ping it now but can't ssh into it |
| 07:25.31 | rob_w | ? |
| 07:25.43 | masked | yer.. |
| 07:25.44 | rob_w | what is the last messages oyu see on the screen |
| 07:26.04 | masked | INIT - if i recall correctly. |
| 07:26.19 | masked | it just stalls on the spash screen |
| 07:26.44 | masked | Familiar GPE 2.7 powered by OE Booting Please Wait.. |
| 07:26.46 | masked | that screen.. |
| 07:28.06 | masked | booting from mmc, the spash shows, so i dont know if ssh loaded or where exactly its halted |
| 07:28.27 | masked | i manually disabled apm by using my sdcard reader, but it didn't help |
| 07:29.52 | masked | shit, it just booted i missed what it said last before the splash.. |
| 07:32.28 | masked | yeah it says INIT booting |
| 07:32.34 | masked | then something else quickly but i missed it |
| 07:32.41 | masked | something about a module i think.. |
| 07:34.36 | masked | bugger bugger bitch bum two balled bitch |
| 07:37.27 | masked | someone just told me with their pda familiar takes almost 30 mins first boot |
| 07:37.29 | masked | is that normal? |
| 08:53.09 | masked | anyone got the wifi drivers going? |
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| 09:26.32 | cp15 | Good morning |
| 09:26.52 | oho_ | good morning |
| 09:28.05 | cp15 | Hi oho_, do you already have some patches for gomunicator? I got a patch yesterday from lamikr to make it run on h63xx, and I think it needs to be merged with your work |
| 09:32.05 | oho_ | hi cp15: I have implemented a queue and a few other things, basic stuff is working. But I am completelly snowed under till Saturday. I have to finish a paper and a grant proposal |
| 09:32.32 | cp15 | Ok, can you send me your work in progress? |
| 09:33.24 | oho_ | that's a little tricky, as I don't have access to the machine I doing the development on at the moment. |
| 09:33.59 | cp15 | Ok, I see |
| 09:34.27 | oho_ | I will put Saturday aside and send you a version which has had a bit more work done to it then |
| 09:34.35 | oho_ | hope that's ok |
| 09:37.01 | cp15 | Ok, thanks. I will test lamikrs patches till then |
| 09:40.00 | oho_ | ok - it is just really busy before xmas |
| 09:48.34 | masked | yo |
| 09:51.47 | masked | can i just scp the ipkg for gnomunicator and install it with ipkg through ssh? |
| 09:52.00 | oho_ | hi masked |
| 09:52.15 | masked | g'day oho_ |
| 09:52.17 | oho_ | yes, just do ipkg install gomunicator.ipk |
| 09:52.30 | masked | will an icon show i ngpe? |
| 09:52.45 | oho_ | i don't think so |
| 09:53.01 | masked | ok, so just run it from the terminal? |
| 09:53.13 | oho_ | cp15 has released a BA image which has gomunicator already build in |
| 09:53.23 | masked | oh really? |
| 09:53.30 | masked | where is that posted? |
| 09:53.40 | oho_ | hmmm - I will check |
| 09:53.46 | masked | i used a h3900 gpe image |
| 09:54.06 | oho_ | you want to use the BA image |
| 09:54.19 | masked | cool, i wasn't aware there was one. |
| 09:54.34 | masked | i just followed the instructions from hh.org |
| 09:54.52 | masked | so does gpe send and receive calls atm? |
| 09:55.00 | oho_ | yes |
| 09:55.16 | masked | gnarly! |
| 09:55.36 | masked | does the ba image have the acx100 drivers in it? |
| 09:55.43 | masked | sorry for 20 questions |
| 09:56.01 | oho_ | no worries |
| 09:56.32 | oho_ | I can't find the link to the server at the moment, just wait a few minutes till cp15 is back. He will be able to tell you where it is. |
| 09:56.44 | masked | cool, so does it have the wifi drivers? |
| 09:56.56 | oho_ | no - wifi doesn't work yet :-( |
| 09:57.05 | masked | not at all? |
| 09:57.42 | oho_ | cp15 has made a start, but it is not finished yet |
| 09:58.29 | masked | oh ok |
| 09:58.40 | masked | everyones doing a great job, im really impressed |
| 09:58.50 | masked | i dont know how much i can help tho other than basic bug testing |
| 09:59.12 | oho_ | speak to cp15 about it, he is co-ordinating the progress |
| 09:59.25 | masked | okay |
| 09:59.48 | oho_ | i am back to writing my proposal now, so that I have the time to work a bit more on teh gomunicator over the weekend. |
| 10:00.11 | masked | cheers, have a good one |
| 10:00.18 | oho_ | thanks |
| 10:14.14 | masked | do all the blueangels have the MAX2247 2.4GHz SiGe Linear Power Amplifier ?? |
| 10:21.30 | masked | anyone know how to adjust this amp? |
| 10:21.40 | cp15 | masked: That is a tough question... Why do you want to? |
| 10:22.08 | masked | not sure if my wifi up to scratch, my friends blueangel works alot better |
| 10:22.21 | masked | i actually have an AP that travels 25km in a radius |
| 10:22.32 | masked | it would be nice to know if i could use more of that range :) |
| 10:23.22 | cp15 | I guess the wifi is quite easy to destroy when using too much power. The BA already gets noticeable warm when wifi is on |
| 10:24.41 | masked | yeah guess ur right, do u know if that u.fl connector on the pcb is for wifi, bluetooth or both? |
| 10:25.04 | masked | i'm considering attaching a pigtail and external connector for higher gain antennas |
| 10:25.50 | masked | do i leave boot_mmc=y on? |
| 10:26.07 | masked | i assume so, just wanna be sure |
| 10:29.28 | masked | and do i need to make an mnt/oldroot? |
| 10:29.33 | masked | oh nevremind |
| 10:29.45 | masked | my impatience hadn't waited till it had untarred, its right there. |
| 10:32.14 | cp15 | Don't know for what the second antenna connector is |
| 10:32.29 | cp15 | boot_mmc=y is still required |
| 10:33.16 | masked | well theres one external one that would be gsm i dare say |
| 10:33.24 | masked | the u.fl is most certainly microwave |
| 10:33.36 | masked | i guess it doesn't really matter if its shared.. |
| 10:33.50 | masked | i have one high gain that works well for both wifi and bt |
| 10:34.01 | masked | lil bit bulky tho for the pda, good in the car.. |
| 10:34.44 | masked | going by whats on that maxim site, this pda should be able to maintain a solid signal for multiple km's |
| 10:36.03 | masked | with a decent antenna that is. |
| 10:36.27 | masked | i can't even see anything etched onto the pcb tho in the photos |
| 10:38.15 | masked | ahh it appears its a chip |
| 10:38.27 | masked | with only +2dBm of rx/tx gain |
| 10:38.33 | masked | so thats good for about 2km LOS |
| 10:38.48 | masked | which i've achieved against my AP |
| 10:39.29 | masked | but going by these docs, with a high gain antenna 10km LOS should be achievable at max power |
| 10:40.24 | masked | though the receive sensitivity isn't so good, that'd explain a lot actually |
| 10:41.20 | masked | ok so it's booted up and im on the login screen, entered three keys into the username now nothing... the cursor still flashes, but its otherwise borked |
| 10:42.26 | masked | ok killed Xfbdev.. touchscreen doesn't appear to work.. up/down arrows do.... |
| 10:44.47 | masked | reboot in progress |
| 10:47.38 | masked | cp15: no touchscreen at all |
| 10:49.20 | masked | keyboard gets stuck on one key sometimes and is not recoverable |
| 10:50.44 | masked | himalaya_ts3 is loaded |
| 10:50.52 | masked | as is blueangel_kp |
| 10:57.10 | masked | lol 3rd time lucky managed to create an account, still no touchscreen tho |
| 10:57.55 | oho_ | you need the new image - I had the same problem |
| 10:59.02 | masked | i grabbed the one from cp15 |
| 10:59.36 | oho_ | ah ok - that one should work, at least it does for me |
| 11:00.00 | masked | yer.. its weird, the other image worked.. |
| 11:00.28 | masked | X is using 90% of the cpu |
| 11:02.24 | masked | module loads.. just no touch... |
| 11:02.58 | cp15 | Hmm... Can you log in? |
| 11:03.06 | cp15 | Via network? |
| 11:03.13 | masked | yeah |
| 11:03.23 | masked | lsmod shows that the module is infact loaded |
| 11:03.25 | masked | just not work |
| 11:03.25 | masked | ing |
| 11:04.28 | cp15 | stop the x server and do a od /dev/input/event0 |
| 11:04.38 | cp15 | Does it show data when you touch the ts? |
| 11:07.28 | masked | one sec. |
| 11:08.01 | masked | nothing |
| 11:08.38 | masked | ohh.. i did leave another console=ttyS2 line in the startup script |
| 11:08.43 | masked | could that be effecting it? |
| 11:09.21 | cp15 | Don't think so... But if you don't have a serial connection, remove the console=ttyS2 |
| 11:09.31 | cp15 | It slows down the system a bit |
| 11:09.49 | masked | ok cool |
| 11:10.04 | masked | brb have to unpack dishwasher |
| 11:14.11 | masked | back |
| 11:14.33 | masked | event1 shows data |
| 11:14.37 | masked | heaps of it :) |
| 11:14.50 | cp15 | Then the module loading order is wrong |
| 11:14.55 | cp15 | Hmm |
| 11:16.24 | cp15 | egrep 'blueangel_kp|himalaya' /etc/modules |
| 11:18.17 | masked | blueangel_kp |
| 11:18.22 | masked | himalaya_ts3 |
| 11:18.43 | masked | # |
| 11:18.46 | masked | himalaya_ts3 |
| 11:18.48 | masked | # |
| 11:18.48 | masked | himalaya_ts3 |
| 11:18.50 | masked | oooops |
| 11:19.09 | masked | it goes, ba_kp, ts3, ts3, ba_kp |
| 11:19.12 | masked | they are in there twice. |
| 11:19.24 | masked | with update module comments like start and end processing |
| 11:19.25 | cp15 | Do a update-modules and check again |
| 11:22.31 | masked | no change |
| 11:23.43 | cp15 | ls /etc/modutils |
| 11:24.46 | masked | blueangel_touchscreen is in there |
| 11:25.09 | masked | has evdev and himalaya_ts3 in there |
| 11:25.41 | masked | the pc logged into the ba is the one next to me, can't exactly copy and paste... tho i can ssh into it and do it that way if you want more info |
| 11:30.58 | masked | yay, nay? |
| 11:31.28 | cp15 | Can you do a sh -x update-modules >>/tmp/update.modules.out 2>&1 and send me /tmp/update.modules.out via dcc? |
| 11:32.31 | cp15 | Correction: |
| 11:32.40 | cp15 | Can you do a sh -x /usr/sbin/update-modules >>/tmp/update.modules.out 2>&1 and send me /tmp/update.modules.out via dcc? |
| 11:33.12 | masked | yep one sec, just finishing up the wiki/moin |
| 11:36.09 | masked | ok done that.. |
| 11:41.44 | masked | bugger, i can't scp it |
| 11:41.52 | masked | i forget how to use scp |
| 11:43.11 | cp15 | scp root@device-ip:/tmp/update.modules.out . |
| 11:43.21 | masked | haha |
| 11:43.24 | masked | ta |
| 11:44.57 | masked | viola |
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| 11:46.41 | cp15 | You haven't deleted your old installation? |
| 11:47.00 | masked | rm -rf * |
| 11:47.09 | masked | i'm sure i would of its instinct. |
| 11:47.26 | masked | correct me if im wrong. |
| 11:47.39 | cp15 | But there are still files under /etc/modutils which are not in the new image |
| 11:48.46 | masked | hrmm odd.. |
| 11:48.55 | masked | maybe i forgot to wipe it.. |
| 11:49.24 | cp15 | It should look like this: |
| 11:49.27 | cp15 | blueangel_audio g_ether hidp l2cap.conf rfcomm.conf zblueangel_kp |
| 11:49.27 | cp15 | bnep.conf hci_uart.conf himalaya_ts3 rfcomm sco.conf |
| 11:49.46 | masked | oic, mine has heaps of crap there |
| 11:49.59 | masked | ok ill try again! |
| 11:55.18 | masked | ok that looks alot more healthy so far |
| 11:58.48 | masked | its booting, and taking a while so i assume its safe now |
| 11:59.47 | masked | it was my first time editing a wiki, so it may not be totally neat. |
| 12:00.07 | rob_w-cgi | hey room |
| 12:00.34 | masked | hey rob_w-cgi |
| 12:01.26 | masked | whats used for sms at this stage? |
| 12:01.47 | masked | lol oh nevremind i spoke to soo |
| 12:01.48 | masked | n |
| 12:02.19 | masked | your doing a great job guys, keep up the good work |
| 12:02.52 | masked | hrmm battery monitor doesn't work! uh oh ! |
| 12:03.26 | masked | ok bbl! |
| 12:18.09 | masked | brilliant, seems to be running smoothly |
| 12:18.19 | masked | cept the phone doesn't make any audiable rings |
| 12:18.45 | cp15 | But be careful... I had one case where the hangup didn't work, and I got an unnoticed 2 hour call |
| 12:19.03 | cp15 | You have to create a ringtone with the following format: |
| 12:19.11 | masked | i have no credit so i can't make any outgoing calls atm anyway :P |
| 12:19.30 | cp15 | 16000 Hz, 2 Channels, Format S16_LE |
| 12:19.57 | cp15 | and then place it under /usr/share/gomunicator/R&C_theme.raw |
| 12:20.28 | cp15 | BTW: Do you have any development experience? Do you want to help the project? |
| 12:20.33 | masked | cheers, thanks, i'll do that |
| 12:20.47 | masked | unfortunately i dont, if i did i'd be more than willing to help |
| 12:21.09 | masked | i do have some c books, and can follow the dev see if i pick anything up on the way, but cant promise anything |
| 12:21.27 | masked | im about only good for a bug tester atm |
| 12:22.06 | cp15 | That is fine |
| 12:22.28 | masked | hows wifi development going? |
| 12:30.46 | cp15 | Well... There are two codebases which aren't working |
| 12:31.29 | masked | why 2? |
| 12:33.17 | cp15 | Because two people started independently |
| 12:33.44 | masked | oh ok |
| 12:34.02 | masked | i should check em out and have a look for the sake of it.. |
| 12:34.18 | masked | will gomunicator answer my calls if its not on front of the screen? |
| 12:35.05 | cp15 | Yes, but if I remember correctly it will not pop up to the top of the window stack |
| 12:35.35 | cp15 | And if you close the gomunicator window, you will not receive any call alerting. But the phone is still logged in |
| 12:36.01 | masked | whats the best way to fix that? panel applet? |
| 12:36.14 | cp15 | What? |
| 12:36.31 | masked | alerts.. |
| 12:36.57 | masked | nevermind that. will it still make an audiable ring if the window isn't open? |
| 12:37.24 | cp15 | I think the best thing would be to close only the window and not to terminate the program |
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| 12:37.50 | cp15 | No, you won't get a ring if the programm is terminated (you closed the window) |
| 12:37.54 | masked | ok cool |
| 12:38.40 | masked | so if i select the icon to the top right of the titlebar and select 'desktop' then it stays running? |
| 12:38.54 | masked | though if i press X then it'll terminate? |
| 12:39.25 | cp15 | Yes |
| 12:39.39 | masked | excellent |
| 12:43.43 | cp15 | Hi lkcl |
| 12:44.29 | masked | i'm off to bed. hope that wiki suffices, wasn't the neatest.. might neaten it in the morning |
| 12:45.29 | cp15 | Ah... You are from the other side of the world. Then good night |
| 12:46.11 | masked | yep im in .au |
| 12:46.20 | masked | peace out |
| 12:52.38 | rob_w-cgi | peace out .. hehe i like that one |
| 12:55.13 | lkcl | hellooo |
| 12:55.29 | lkcl | my xda 2s arrived this morning |
| 12:55.35 | lkcl | already! |
| 12:59.18 | cp15 | Wow, o2 is really quick |
| 12:59.46 | cp15 | Do you want to install linux? |
| 12:59.48 | lkcl | yeh, i am confused. |
| 12:59.49 | lkcl | YEP! |
| 12:59.55 | lkcl | *cackle* |
| 13:00.01 | cp15 | Do you know how to start? |
| 13:00.04 | lkcl | where's me 256mb memory card... |
| 13:00.15 | lkcl | damnit where's me card _reader_ *scrabble*... |
| 13:00.16 | cp15 | Yes :-) |
| 13:00.26 | lkcl | brb... |
| 13:00.49 | lkcl | got it.... |
| 13:02.31 | lkcl | okay. wiki.xda-developers.com here i come... |
| 13:06.00 | cp15 | The instructions are probably outdated... |
| 13:06.40 | lkcl | oops ... |
| 13:11.33 | lkcl | 2nd SD-card partition?? |
| 13:11.34 | lkcl | oops :) |
| 13:12.59 | lkcl | how should i repartition / reformat the SD-card? 1x FAT, 1x ext2? |
| 13:13.06 | lkcl | jffs2? |
| 13:14.34 | lkcl | right - found the handhelds.org instructions... |
| 13:15.37 | cp15 | 1 x Fat (small, despite its name :-) so that initrd, kernel and haret fits in) |
| 13:15.46 | cp15 | 1 x ext3 for the gpe image |
| 13:16.30 | cp15 | Get the newest kernel, initrd and gpe image from http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux |
| 13:17.12 | lkcl | ack |
| 13:18.00 | lkcl | *whistle*... |
| 13:21.04 | lkcl | heaaave, heaaave... unmount .... oops. |
| 13:21.38 | lkcl | cards are a pain to put in.. |
| 13:22.44 | lkcl | hmmm .... it's not very happy about the partitions... reformat time. |
| 13:25.38 | lkcl | heeeave... heaavve.. okay. carrdd iiiinn... |
| 13:26.31 | lkcl | urrr.... ermmmm... nope. |
| 13:26.45 | cp15 | What problems do you have? |
| 13:27.04 | lkcl | card isn't being recognised: i set the partition type to FAT16 (type 6) |
| 13:27.24 | lkcl | formatted with mkfs.vfat |
| 13:27.47 | lkcl | any suggestions! is there a wince "formatting" tool? |
| 13:28.21 | lkcl | change to type 4? (FAT16 < 32M) ? |
| 13:29.01 | cp15 | Wait, I will check |
| 13:29.18 | lkcl | ouch, my fingers - the spring is really tough on the cards :) |
| 13:29.36 | cp15 | Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 254 MB, 254803968 bytes |
| 13:29.36 | cp15 | 1 heads, 61 sectors/track, 8158 cylinders |
| 13:29.36 | cp15 | Units = cylinders of 61 * 512 = 31232 bytes |
| 13:29.36 | cp15 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:29.37 | cp15 | /dev/mmcblk0p1 2 514 15646+ 6 FAT16 |
| 13:29.39 | cp15 | /dev/mmcblk0p2 515 8158 233142 83 Linux |
| 13:29.45 | cp15 | This is my fdisk output |
| 13:29.47 | lkcl | fat16... |
| 13:29.55 | lkcl | do i have to use mmc? i'm using /dev/sdc |
| 13:30.05 | cp15 | This is from the BA |
| 13:30.39 | cp15 | /dev/sdc should be ok on your linux machine |
| 13:30.50 | lkcl | Disk /dev/sdc: 255 MB, 255852544 bytes |
| 13:30.50 | lkcl | 1 heads, 61 sectors/track, 8192 cylinders |
| 13:30.50 | lkcl | Units = cylinders of 61 * 512 = 31232 bytes |
| 13:30.50 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.19 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.19 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.19 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.00 | cp15 | Looks good... But maybe change the partition type to 6 |
| 13:33.01 | lkcl | brb... on phone.. |
| 13:33.01 | cp15 | Interesting how the sd cards differ in size |
| 13:33.55 | rob_w-cgi | wow , that is indeed interessting ! |
| 13:34.09 | rob_w-cgi | ah , that is yours and lkcl .. |
| 13:34.30 | rob_w-cgi | i thouzght that is from fdisk on a host and then on a BA , never mind |
| 13:43.00 | lkcl | hello am back. with tea. and cereal. |
| 13:46.08 | lkcl | huh. no luck. |
| 13:46.15 | cp15 | What happens? |
| 13:48.08 | lkcl | hmmm... i had to "blank" the card (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc count=1 bs=1024) |
| 13:48.17 | lkcl | then let the xda reformat it |
| 13:48.33 | lkcl | now i'm going to try parted to resize the /dev/sdc5 it's created :) |
| 13:48.45 | cp15 | No, it has to be /dev/sdc2 |
| 13:49.19 | lkcl | oops... :) |
| 13:49.49 | lkcl | the ext3 partition has to be /dev/sdc2? |
| 13:49.58 | cp15 | Yes |
| 13:50.07 | cp15 | It is hardcoded in the initrd |
| 13:50.42 | lkcl | okay, so if there's an extended partition at sdc1, a FAT32 logical at sdc5, then if i resize sdc5 to 32M, i can still get away with adding sdc2 as an ext3... that's the theory... |
| 13:51.09 | lkcl | so far parted bombs out at the resizing bit... |
| 13:51.20 | lkcl | which buggers up _that_ theory :) |
| 13:51.34 | cp15 | Where did you get the sdc5 from? |
| 13:52.09 | lkcl | it was created by the xda 2s after i dd zero'd the partition table on the card |
| 13:52.50 | lkcl | about to reformat and try again... |
| 13:53.01 | cp15 | try the following: remove all partitions, create a single one over the whole card and do a mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1 |
| 13:53.09 | cp15 | Then see if it gets recognized |
| 13:53.57 | lkcl | okay.... i'm getting somewhere... |
| 13:54.21 | lkcl | i created a 30mb single partition (instead of on the whole card) and it was recognised. |
| 13:54.45 | lkcl | i didn't format it - which is not _entirely_ good news :) |
| 13:55.02 | cp15 | Did windows try to format it? |
| 13:55.30 | lkcl | i couldn't tell you - if it did, it didn't ask! |
| 13:55.49 | lkcl | now sdc2 added... |
| 13:57.25 | lkcl | okay! |
| 13:57.28 | lkcl | getting somewhere... |
| 13:58.51 | lkcl | _excellent_! |
| 13:59.10 | lkcl | oops... linux'd already. teehee |
| 14:00.44 | cp15 | First boot takes some time |
| 14:00.57 | cp15 | Did you get the splash screen? |
| 14:02.35 | lkcl | yeh, and thermometer ... oh, it's gone black... maybe it's working... brb, another phone call |
| 14:10.21 | cp15 | If it stayed black, there is something wrong |
| 14:34.49 | lkcl | it stayed black.... oh, it just went power-save |
| 14:34.51 | lkcl | YAAY! |
| 14:34.55 | lkcl | BOOT! |
| 14:35.05 | lkcl | portmap... |
| 14:35.13 | lkcl | set_stuart_gpio_config 1 |
| 14:35.17 | lkcl | hum |
| 14:35.19 | lkcl | now what? :) |
| 14:36.19 | lkcl | _drat_ - i'm using 192.168.0.0/24 as my local ethernet. |
| 14:37.41 | lkcl | ah, i'll plug the usb in shall i - that'll help |
| 14:39.54 | lkcl | oops - hard reset time... |
| 14:40.17 | *** join/#htc-blueangel dave (n=dave@lsn-boi-catv-c122-p224.vtx.ch) |
| 14:40.28 | lkcl | hi dave |
| 14:43.30 | cp15 | lkcl: Did you specify boot_mmc=y in the kernel command line? |
| 14:44.08 | cp15 | If yes, show me the messages after linuxrc gets executed |
| 14:44.17 | cp15 | If not, change it and try again |
| 14:44.46 | lkcl | huhn? boot_mmc=y... err oops, here we go again... reset time: i _just_ re-ran haret. darn |
| 14:45.52 | cp15 | linuxrc queries the kernel command line for boot_mmc, and if it is there, it mounts the second partition, does a pivot root and execs init from there |
| 14:46.41 | lkcl | ack... |
| 14:46.50 | lkcl | card out... |
| 14:47.33 | lkcl | copied... card in... waiting for wince apps to copy... |
| 14:47.43 | lkcl | zzzz |
| 14:48.05 | lkcl | rebooot... zzzz... |
| 14:48.13 | cp15 | Yes, it has still its rough edges... Someone wanted to made a install system, but he is away now for close to two weeks |
| 14:48.56 | lkcl | boot again... |
| 14:48.56 | cp15 | You can get a quicker reboot if you press reset after the customization starts |
| 14:49.06 | lkcl | ah, now he tells me :) |
| 14:49.31 | cp15 | You should get a Handhelds splash screen shortly after boot |
| 14:50.18 | lkcl | okay, i'm in. |
| 14:50.32 | lkcl | ssh'd in. hurrah. no splashscreen |
| 14:51.01 | cp15 | Hmmm... Maybe we should check by hand |
| 14:51.24 | lkcl | okay - did i need to put the boot_mmc=y in the CMDLINE yes? |
| 14:51.33 | cp15 | yes |
| 14:51.46 | lkcl | did that. |
| 14:52.07 | cp15 | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=14336 keepinitrd console=tty0 boot_mmc=y" |
| 14:52.33 | cp15 | So boot_mmc was already active? |
| 14:52.39 | lkcl | i put it in the middle, somewhere. i found linuxrc... |
| 14:52.51 | lkcl | no, it's not active |
| 14:53.21 | cp15 | do a cat /proc/cmdline |
| 14:53.37 | lkcl | oh bugger :) |
| 14:53.48 | lkcl | hey, how did that _not_ get there?? :) |
| 14:54.40 | lkcl | i'd forgotten how much i enjoyed the hard resets... |
| 14:55.28 | lkcl | and the irritating high-pitched "bee-bingggg..." |
| 14:55.38 | cp15 | You can also speed it up if you place autorun.exe in a folder called 2577 |
| 14:56.10 | lkcl | so you rename haret.exe to autorun.exe? |
| 14:56.29 | cp15 | No, go a level higher in the gnulinux.biz url |
| 14:56.46 | cp15 | renaming haret as autorun doesn't work. Haret won't find its startup.txt |
| 14:56.54 | lkcl | oh right. |
| 14:57.06 | cp15 | But I have written a autorun.exe which calls haret |
| 14:57.39 | lkcl | sd.. |
| 14:57.45 | lkcl | linux... |
| 14:57.51 | lkcl | nope. |
| 14:57.58 | cp15 | Nope? |
| 14:58.00 | lkcl | got a full url somewhere? |
| 14:58.41 | cp15 | Oops... Forgot to upload it |
| 14:58.45 | lkcl | gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/ ... :) |
| 14:58.48 | cp15 | Just a moment |
| 14:58.51 | lkcl | ack :) |
| 14:59.33 | cp15 | Now its there |
| 14:59.46 | lkcl | ta! |
| 14:59.55 | lkcl | okay, linux-booting anyway, just for fun... |
| 15:00.37 | lkcl | bogus number of reserved sectors |
| 15:00.50 | lkcl | VFS can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmcb1k0p2 |
| 15:00.55 | lkcl | burble?? |
| 15:01.36 | lkcl | hmmm.... i think i'm expected to have the 2nd partition as FAT, yes, not ext3? |
| 15:03.35 | lkcl | reset _again_ ;) |
| 15:03.41 | lkcl | ahh, joy... *sigh* |
| 15:04.26 | cp15 | No... it should be ext3 |
| 15:04.32 | lkcl | oops... |
| 15:04.46 | cp15 | This is just a message from the kernel msdosfs driver |
| 15:04.52 | cp15 | What messages do you get after that |
| 15:05.07 | lkcl | i'll just rerun everything then, shall i? :) |
| 15:05.28 | cp15 | Yes, try again :-) |
| 15:06.15 | lkcl | tum te tummm... |
| 15:06.44 | lkcl | boot.... |
| 15:06.50 | lkcl | RAMFS |
| 15:06.53 | lkcl | add p1 p2 |
| 15:07.04 | lkcl | bogus ppcb1k0p2 FAT |
| 15:07.10 | lkcl | EXT3 mounted |
| 15:07.20 | lkcl | pivot_root: pivot_root: No such file or directory |
| 15:07.36 | lkcl | mount: Mounting none on /dev failed: Device or resource busy |
| 15:07.45 | cp15 | Have you untarred the gpe-ba.tar.bz on the second partition? |
| 15:07.49 | lkcl | i tried executing pivot_root by hand, earlier. |
| 15:07.58 | lkcl | untarred??? nobody said anything about _untarred_ :) |
| 15:08.02 | lkcl | bollocks :) |
| 15:08.18 | cp15 | Ok, you can do it via ssh |
| 15:08.20 | lkcl | here we go again.... |
| 15:08.31 | cp15 | But you need another... hmmm... boot |
| 15:09.05 | lkcl | yep - usb link failed... |
| 15:10.06 | cp15 | This is an annoying bug... The pxa usb driver doesn't recognize when a usb device gets connected if it wasn't connected at boot |
| 15:11.06 | lkcl | ah joy. |
| 15:11.33 | lkcl | the _least_ of the wories, me thinks |
| 15:11.37 | lkcl | rescan... |
| 15:11.39 | lkcl | ext3... |
| 15:11.54 | lkcl | umount: /mnt/oldroot: no such file or directory... |
| 15:12.01 | lkcl | _but_ a screen. |
| 15:12.04 | lkcl | GPE 2.7! |
| 15:12.08 | lkcl | wheeeeee |
| 15:13.48 | lkcl | booting. please wait. one minuete.... two minutes... |
| 15:13.50 | lkcl | zzzz |
| 15:14.13 | cp15 | Hope it works at all :-) |
| 15:15.15 | lkcl | 3 minutes... |
| 15:15.17 | lkcl | generating key |
| 15:15.20 | lkcl | starting pcmcia |
| 15:15.23 | lkcl | starting bluetooth |
| 15:15.39 | lkcl | calibrating screen |
| 15:17.04 | lkcl | buggered up the screen calib... |
| 15:17.17 | cp15 | ? |
| 15:17.49 | lkcl | i pressed the screen in the wrong place |
| 15:19.14 | cp15 | If I remember correctly you can re-calibrate the screen at login by pressing the record button |
| 15:19.26 | lkcl | that was a pain to do. |
| 15:19.42 | lkcl | okay, i'm in |
| 15:19.45 | lkcl | ... now what? :) |
| 15:19.58 | rob_w-cgi | hehe |
| 15:20.06 | lkcl | ooo.... *wobble* ... lsusb isn't responding... bad sign... |
| 15:20.41 | lkcl | this is _great_ |
| 15:20.59 | lkcl | dang, no HTC in the lsusb... |
| 15:21.40 | cp15 | Have you tried to disconnect and reconnect? |
| 15:22.16 | lkcl | bloody hell: the phone works! |
| 15:22.32 | rob_w-cgi | almost ! |
| 15:22.48 | lkcl | it dials! |
| 15:23.13 | lkcl | and answers! |
| 15:23.37 | lkcl | lsusb... heeeavve |
| 15:23.39 | lkcl | heeeavve |
| 15:24.21 | lkcl | Dec 8 15:24:02 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 |
| 15:24.49 | lkcl | rmmod cdc_subnet |
| 15:24.49 | lkcl | ERROR: Module cdc_subnet does not exist in /proc/modules |
| 15:25.00 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.00 | lkcl | usbnet 17064 1 cdc_subset |
| 15:25.00 | lkcl | usb_storage 80288 0 |
| 15:25.02 | lkcl | urr????? |
| 15:25.49 | cp15 | subset or subnet? |
| 15:25.51 | lkcl | cdc_subset not subnet durrr |
| 15:26.19 | lkcl | lsusb hangs with this: |
| 15:26.20 | lkcl | Dec 8 15:25:59 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 |
| 15:26.45 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.01 | lkcl | oo. what's figment? this is too much fun. |
| 15:27.09 | cp15 | can you open a root shell on the BA? |
| 15:27.24 | lkcl | root shell... root shell... |
| 15:27.32 | lkcl | terminal. |
| 15:27.45 | lkcl | keyboard, up we go... |
| 15:27.54 | cp15 | rmmod g_ether |
| 15:28.05 | lkcl | ack.. |
| 15:28.18 | cp15 | rmmod pxa2xx_udc |
| 15:28.21 | cp15 | modprobe g_ether |
| 15:28.24 | cp15 | ifup usb0 |
| 15:28.31 | lkcl | which key is _!!! |
| 15:28.40 | cp15 | Probably none :-( |
| 15:28.48 | cp15 | You have to use the screen keyboard |
| 15:28.50 | rob_w-cgi | shift - |
| 15:29.21 | lkcl | that gets me = |
| 15:29.40 | rob_w-cgi | hehe seems we have a real freaked user here ! |
| 15:29.44 | lkcl | ah. got an on-screen keyboard... |
| 15:30.00 | lkcl | yeh, that's fairly normal despite _anything_ i do.. |
| 15:31.38 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.47 | rob_w-cgi | hmm |
| 15:32.36 | lkcl | i did su not su - cos i couldn't find - at the time... |
| 15:36.41 | *** join/#htc-blueangel rob_w-cgi (n=txuser@dd1010.kasserver.com) |
| 15:36.41 | *** mode/#htc-blueangel [+o rob_w-cgi] by ChanServ |
| 15:36.45 | lkcl | nope - doesn't like it |
| 15:37.07 | lkcl | reboot time again methinks... and i was getting on _so_ well... |
| 15:37.31 | lkcl | before i do that. sound. |
| 15:37.33 | lkcl | what happened to sound? |
| 15:37.43 | cp15 | What should happend to it? |
| 15:38.25 | lkcl | OW! that was loud |
| 15:39.35 | lkcl | sound seems to work, then. |
| 15:44.39 | lkcl | okay. |
| 15:44.54 | lkcl | good grief. i never imagined this would ever be possible. |
| 15:45.14 | lkcl | i just received an sms... |
| 15:47.59 | lkcl | i think i just sent one - twice... |
| 15:48.08 | lkcl | this is ... wild. |
| 15:48.22 | lkcl | cp15: what was that about battery life (and why doesn't apm --suspend work?) |
| 15:49.14 | lkcl | ah cos it's not on the gpe image, that's why. |
| 15:49.18 | lkcl | okay. definitely reboot time... |
| 15:49.26 | cp15 | Battery life is currently ~ 18 hours |
| 15:49.39 | lkcl | that's not bad. |
| 15:49.45 | cp15 | I have a fix in the pipeline which brings it up to useable values |
| 15:49.51 | lkcl | running _continuously_ - without even being able to suspend? |
| 15:50.03 | cp15 | No, of course in suspend mode |
| 15:50.24 | lkcl | where's the apm command then? :) |
| 15:50.50 | cp15 | apm --suspend does not work due to a series of unlucky events when going to suspend |
| 15:51.31 | cp15 | Actually the bug is in the X-Server, but the kernel does help a lot |
| 15:51.38 | lkcl | oops.... how does suspend work at all?? :) |
| 15:51.49 | lkcl | time for me to do a cvs update, then, innit... |
| 15:52.12 | cp15 | You need an X-Server who doesn't care about suspend resume |
| 15:52.18 | cp15 | then apm --suspend works |
| 15:52.47 | lkcl | ah, right. |
| 15:53.23 | lkcl | okay, i have usb in wince on.... |
| 15:53.42 | lkcl | linux go... |
| 15:53.55 | lkcl | kernel source slurping off sf.net... |
| 15:54.03 | lkcl | boot... |
| 15:54.14 | cp15 | Unfortunately the person who created the ba gpe image is also lost, so we have to wait for a new image |
| 15:54.37 | lkcl | huhn?? lost?? who mislaid them? how can you lose an entire person?? |
| 15:54.45 | lkcl | :) |
| 15:55.06 | cp15 | Seems so :-) |
| 15:55.14 | lkcl | starting bluetooth... |
| 15:55.15 | lkcl | wheee |
| 15:55.43 | cp15 | Do you have any experience with OpenEmbedded? |
| 15:55.47 | lkcl | ooo, my password and screen settings were remembered - that's cool. |
| 15:55.57 | lkcl | openembedded? nope - not yet. ain't gonna stop me though. |
| 15:55.59 | lkcl | why? |
| 15:56.16 | lkcl | Bus 002 Device 043: ID 049f:505a Compaq Computer Corp. SA-11x0 based Linux Device, or Itsy (experimental) |
| 15:56.22 | lkcl | ha haaaaa *cackle* |
| 15:56.23 | cp15 | Well, we need a new person who can create a gpe image, I think |
| 15:56.44 | lkcl | muhahahahah. |
| 15:57.10 | cp15 | Of course it would be possible to just do a lot of rm, vi and cp in the current image, but I want a clean and reproducable image |
| 15:57.17 | lkcl | what am i looking for? |
| 15:57.32 | lkcl | i _like_ a lot of rm, vi and cp - i even created some scripts to do it for the himalaya :) |
| 16:00.35 | lkcl | does gomunicator play sounds at all? *lol* |
| 16:00.48 | lkcl | on incoming calls, perhaps? |
| 16:01.12 | lkcl | _just_ in case someone needs to know that there's a call coming in. you understand. nothing important or anything |
| 16:02.08 | cp15 | Yes, but you have to install a sound |
| 16:02.49 | lkcl | ah - right. teehee. i should have thought of that. |
| 16:03.03 | cp15 | It has to be 16000 Hz, stereo, format S16_LE |
| 16:03.08 | cp15 | raw format |
| 16:03.16 | lkcl | oh my god: when you said "prepare an openembedded image" you mean _build an entire image_??? |
| 16:03.22 | lkcl | ack. |
| 16:03.52 | cp15 | you have to copy it as /usr/share/gomunicator/R&C_theme.raw |
| 16:04.07 | lkcl | thank you. |
| 16:04.17 | lkcl | i'll be getting to that... |
| 16:04.21 | cp15 | Yes, an entire image |
| 16:04.29 | lkcl | oh dang :) |
| 16:04.34 | lkcl | better fire up the AMD64 system then... |
| 16:04.40 | lkcl | i don't have space on my laptop!! |
| 16:05.00 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.00 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.00 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.00 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.00 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.01 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.03 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.05 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.07 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.09 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.10 | rob_w-cgi | what is that cackle always ?? do we have static in here ? |
| 16:05.11 | lkcl | as you can see.... oops :) |
| 16:05.17 | rob_w-cgi | checks his antenna `s |
| 16:05.26 | lkcl | *shhh* *crrrk* *fzzzz* |
| 16:06.10 | lkcl | why is gomunicator saying 23410 instead of "O2 UK" like what it said on the previous boot? |
| 16:06.16 | rob_w-cgi | grrrgrr ..ssshh***..windows ***ssas ** blue screen**** no_less_equal |
| 16:06.34 | cp15 | Hmm... Don't know |
| 16:07.10 | cp15 | Is 23410 the gsm provider number for O2 UK? |
| 16:07.28 | lkcl | i can't believe i'm giving serious consideration to doing an openembedded build... |
| 16:07.44 | rob_w-cgi | why dont you take a image ? |
| 16:08.16 | rob_w-cgi | but it is very helpfull to have oe builded once .. thenyou can quickly rebuild single apps with no hassle |
| 16:08.48 | rob_w-cgi | also you will first use your CPU for what it was build for *RUN* |
| 16:08.55 | lkcl | cp15 was asking about image rebuilds... |
| 16:08.58 | lkcl | que? que? |
| 16:09.09 | oho_ | lkcl: the version of gomunicator I am workig on has fixed the problem of not showing the name |
| 16:09.18 | lkcl | oho: ack - ta. |
| 16:09.28 | rob_w-cgi | do you run a 64bit linux on that amd ,, then it might be a bit more tricky ? |
| 16:09.48 | lkcl | i have a 32-bit sub-environment (complete debian/kde - don't ask...) |
| 16:10.00 | rob_w-cgi | ok |
| 16:12.01 | cp15 | Immolo did it on an AMD64, so it works |
| 16:13.15 | rob_w-cgi | hmm that is nice ,.. i was scared to get that as the native package need to work with that |
| 16:13.29 | lkcl | ah _ha_ |
| 16:13.38 | lkcl | well of course it's all cross-compiled anyway (arm) |
| 16:14.00 | lkcl | you reckon it's gonna matter if i use debian/stable or debian/testing? |
| 16:15.32 | lkcl | eeeh, what the heck: i'm gonna find out |
| 16:16.03 | lkcl | anyone got a good ringtone kicking around already? |
| 16:16.22 | lkcl | i can't really be bothered to record one if someone has some good examples around already |
| 16:16.53 | cp15 | I have "Inspector Gadged" |
| 16:16.58 | rob_w-cgi | i am running the "Magnum " theme |
| 16:17.44 | rob_w-cgi | i alwways feel like doing a U .- turn in my Ferrari ! |
| 16:17.49 | lkcl | oh dear... |
| 16:18.41 | lkcl | got a url, rob? cp15? |
| 16:19.31 | lkcl | aw, gawd - OE compiles its own ARM compiler *gibber* |
| 16:21.15 | cp15 | lkcl: Sorry, no url... But a free ringtone would be nice |
| 16:21.30 | cp15 | There was a story on slashdot recently about a free sound archive |
| 16:21.43 | cp15 | I will take a look |
| 16:22.31 | rob_w-cgi | lkcl got my at *gtk-gnutelle*.com ;-) |
| 16:22.46 | rob_w-cgi | s/gtk-gnutelle/gtk-gnutella |
| 16:23.28 | lkcl | ack... |
| 16:24.09 | lkcl | oh. yes. there was. |
| 16:24.13 | lkcl | it got slashdotted. |
| 16:24.25 | lkcl | what was it... over 10,000 sounds online.... |
| 16:24.44 | cp15 | Yes |
| 16:25.07 | rob_w-cgi | link ?= |
| 16:25.15 | cp15 | http://freesound.iua.upf.edu |
| 16:25.43 | cp15 | The ringing of an egg timer? |
| 16:26.02 | cp15 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.11 | cp15 | Ok, i will try the last one |
| 16:26.23 | cp15 | Oh no, its a digital one |
| 16:27.30 | rob_w-cgi | cruel ,, they have sounds like .andfull of 357 magnum bullets dropped onto the desk in front of a radio shack clip on condenser... |
| 16:31.08 | cp15 | I found a cool one: The typical gsm distortions you can hear when you place your phone close to an amplifier during a call |
| 16:31.16 | lkcl | yes - it's for audio professionals. drum-synths |
| 16:31.20 | lkcl | oh dear :) |
| 16:35.25 | lkcl | cp15, how do i update the x-server / where from / to get apm working? |
| 16:38.05 | cp15 | I will send you mine... But the long term target is to get it out of oe :-) |
| 16:38.28 | cp15 | BTW: What is your board id? Probably 0x6, since you have a newer device |
| 16:38.51 | lkcl | x-server - i know, i know - i'm working on it! |
| 16:39.01 | lkcl | urr... how do i find out the board id? |
| 16:39.36 | cp15 | It gets printed out early at the boot. But it is probably already out of the dmesg |
| 16:39.45 | cp15 | So take a look at your next boot |
| 16:39.46 | lkcl | just running through the instructions on moinmoin on oe downloads... |
| 16:40.31 | cp15 | Be warned that the initial download of the monotone database takes over a day |
| 16:40.34 | lkcl | ack. yes it's out the dmesg.. |
| 16:40.42 | lkcl | _what_??? *gibber* :) |
| 16:40.53 | cp15 | So you better download the database snapshot and just do an update |
| 16:41.00 | lkcl | oh, i might as well go home, then. hang on, i _am_ at home. |
| 16:41.27 | rob_w-cgi | ?? |
| 16:42.02 | lkcl | snapshot, snapshot... ah, yeh... i see... |
| 16:42.18 | lkcl | ctrl-c time... |
| 16:42.43 | lkcl | do it again, cp - i don't have a directory called dcc (well i do now) |
| 16:43.19 | lkcl | ty. |
| 16:43.36 | lkcl | a _day_ to download 36mb, with monotone??? |
| 16:43.40 | lkcl | *snort* |
| 16:44.23 | cp15 | It is not the network traffic which makes it take so long, it is the creation of its internal database |
| 16:46.05 | *** join/#htc-blueangel JuNuKN (n=JuNuKN@Kcf3f.k.pppool.de) |
| 16:47.31 | JuNuKN | ~seen llange |
| 16:47.39 | apt | llange <n=llange@lange.nom.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-blueangel, 8d 17h 58m 41s ago, saying: 'no probs. =)'. |
| 16:49.14 | lkcl | what's the monotone update command? |
| 16:49.33 | lkcl | oh - i see - step 7 |
| 16:52.35 | lkcl | FRAK. oe db version mismatch |
| 16:52.59 | lkcl | hey - cp15: thanks. suspend works, now. |
| 16:57.36 | cp15 | Not perfect, since it does not really suspend, it just goes into idle mode |
| 16:57.49 | rob_w-cgi | ok i am off to run home |
| 16:58.02 | cp15 | But I have real suspend working, it just needs some cleaning up |
| 16:59.03 | lkcl | ooo, cool. |
| 16:59.13 | lkcl | k rob |
| 16:59.24 | cp15 | It is quite tricky |
| 16:59.32 | lkcl | well it's better than a kick in the teeth |
| 16:59.44 | rob_w-cgi | cp15 ,, if you are bored , do some cvs checkins !! so we can fall over your changes ! |
| 16:59.46 | rob_w-cgi | ;-) |
| 17:00.06 | cp15 | Actually suspend is like a reset, there is just one register which keeps it contents |
| 17:00.23 | cp15 | And the bootloader does some strange things when getting back from suspend |
| 17:00.27 | rob_w-cgi | oh nice |
| 17:06.19 | lkcl | OW! |
| 17:06.38 | lkcl | very loud, very piercing, very over-speed, OUCH! but it's a phone call... |
| 17:07.09 | lkcl | and... dang, me, it even un-idles the phone. |
| 17:07.26 | lkcl | cp15 - wow, i am so impressed and delighted. |
| 19:17.15 | lkcl | _oops_ it just crashed :) |
| 19:19.00 | lkcl | in the middle of an idle/wakeup it looks like, after a usb event |
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| 21:20.57 | lamikr | Hi |
| 21:33.47 | lkcl | hiya lamikr |
| 21:34.15 | lkcl | you'd never guess what i got... |
| 21:37.22 | lamikr | Well, did you got blueangel? |
| 21:38.21 | lamikr | or h6340???? |
| 21:38.56 | lamikr | or what else could I try... :-) |
| 21:44.47 | lkcl | yep - it arrived this morning, and it's running linux already thanks to cp15 |
| 21:44.58 | lkcl | _and_ doing phone calls. and sms. |
| 21:45.02 | lkcl | i am _well_ appy. |
| 21:45.06 | lkcl | now. |
| 21:45.25 | lkcl | does anyone know what config i'm supposed to use, to build openembedded? |
| 21:45.32 | lamikr | lkcl: So you got blueangel. How much you needed to buy? |
| 21:45.38 | lkcl | zero. |
| 21:45.45 | lamikr | Oh, how? |
| 21:45.51 | lkcl | my o2 phone contract is so silly that they gave me it for free |
| 21:47.02 | lamikr | nice... In finland, that kind of contracts are not allowed between customers and telecompanies by law... People always buy phones from shops. |
| 21:47.47 | lkcl | that's very sensible, because otherwise you get major lock-in. |
| 21:48.54 | lamikr | Well, yes I actually agree with that... But then I can not get blueangel in free. But in a long term this is propably cheaper. |
| 21:49.22 | lkcl | yes it's definitely cheaper: my phone contract is £75/month |
| 21:49.22 | lamikr | Have you already downloaded oe database with monotone? |
| 21:49.51 | lkcl | yep. |
| 21:50.02 | lamikr | Ok, yes it is... My company buys my phone bills, but I think my wife pays about 20-30 euro per month or two. |
| 21:50.37 | lkcl | okay - i found the config. blueangel.conf. editing conf/local.conf to match MACHINE = "blueangel". any other suggestions? |
| 21:50.55 | lamikr | Then you need to set the distro. |
| 21:51.16 | lkcl | pick one for me :) |
| 21:51.42 | lkcl | cp15 mentioned that he wanted someone to redo the gpe |
| 21:52.06 | lkcl | istrc something about ... 2.7 on the boot screen...? |
| 21:52.20 | lamikr | I have as a distro: familiar-0.8.3 |
| 21:52.57 | lkcl | yerrp, there we goooo :) |
| 21:53.04 | lamikr | Did you checked out org.openembedded.dev or org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch? |
| 21:53.17 | lkcl | oh _now_ you tell me :) |
| 21:53.32 | lkcl | org.openembedded.dev |
| 21:53.42 | lkcl | i followed the instructions on the wiki! waahhh! |
| 21:54.27 | lkcl | is that all right? |
| 21:54.32 | lamikr | Well, that is the development branch and has newest stuff. But familiar-0.8.3 is good distro name also in there... org.openembedded.oz354fam083 is now in freeze state where only bugs are fixed so there |
| 21:54.55 | lkcl | oh, then i deeefintly want the development branch :) |
| 21:55.30 | lamikr | so that that has 99.5 % quarantee to finish, with dev branch you have only 99.4 % chances :-) |
| 21:55.37 | lkcl | _excellent_ |
| 21:55.47 | lkcl | is there a make -i option, then? |
| 21:56.07 | lamikr | I build the dev branch last time 4 days ago and atleast then it went fine. |
| 21:56.11 | lkcl | and it will be using ccache guaranteed, won't it.. |
| 21:56.28 | lamikr | What ccache? |
| 21:57.02 | lamikr | did you remember to define the tmp and source directories as well to your local conf? |
| 21:57.09 | lkcl | ccache - the command that caches .o files, saving you absolutely tons of time :) |
| 21:57.22 | lkcl | remember? _ha_! hadn't even _started_ |
| 21:58.06 | lkcl | home directory has 8gb available, so that'll do as the tmp directory... |
| 21:58.19 | lamikr | I really do not know... Ok, all packages that oe downloads from net will be saved to sources dir... tmp will be actually even for more than for temp... It will have following subdirs. |
| 21:58.39 | lamikr | tmp/work is the place under all things are build |
| 21:58.43 | lkcl | goood. |
| 21:58.56 | lkcl | plenty of space then |
| 21:59.04 | lamikr | tmp/deploy/ipkg is place where all ipkg packages put |
| 21:59.04 | lkcl | where's the source directory option? |
| 21:59.14 | lamikr | yes, you will need about 5-6 gig of space... |
| 21:59.22 | lkcl | got 8gb so that's okay... |
| 21:59.28 | lkcl | he said, hopefully... |
| 21:59.49 | lamikr | tmp/cross is the place where all libs, gcc, etc are put... (8 gig is enought for sure!) |
| 22:00.42 | lkcl | ah when you say sources you mean DL_DIR |
| 22:01.02 | lamikr | tmp/cross is a little bit stupid name for crosscompiler, but I have but I put tmp/cross/bin to my path even if I want to build without oe. |
| 22:01.16 | lkcl | ack. |
| 22:01.39 | lamikr | yes, DL_DIR = source dir |
| 22:02.13 | lamikr | Then you need bb location: I have |
| 22:02.15 | lkcl | bbfiles done... |
| 22:02.15 | lamikr | BBFILES = "/opt/h6300/oe/dev/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 22:02.30 | lkcl | any suggestions on build targets? |
| 22:02.40 | lamikr | TMPDIR = /opt/h6300/oe/dev/tmp |
| 22:02.49 | lkcl | sorry, bitbake targets |
| 22:03.18 | lkcl | oh all right, i'll set a damn TMPDIR :) |
| 22:03.24 | lamikr | For machine you need to set: blueangel |
| 22:03.33 | lkcl | done that... ba... |
| 22:03.42 | lkcl | DISTRO="familiar-0.8.3" |
| 22:03.48 | lamikr | yes, |
| 22:03.51 | lamikr | TARGET_ARCH = "arm" |
| 22:04.00 | lamikr | TARGET_OS = "linux" |
| 22:04.13 | lkcl | aw gawd :) |
| 22:04.27 | lamikr | ;.) |
| 22:04.30 | lamikr | IMAGE_FSTYPES = "tar" |
| 22:04.39 | lkcl | what about jffs2? |
| 22:04.43 | lkcl | include that as well? |
| 22:05.10 | lkcl | we ain't exactly gonna be using it... out it goes... |
| 22:05.37 | lkcl | ok. what's me bitbake command then? wanna get busy!!! |
| 22:05.49 | lamikr | I am not sure about that, I always use MMC card for rootfs and that's why I just extract the generated tar.gz to ext2 partition of my mmc card... I believe jffs2 is for flashing purposes... |
| 22:06.20 | lamikr | If you want debug info to binaries: BBDEBUG = "yes" |
| 22:06.36 | lamikr | DEBUG_BUILD = "1" |
| 22:06.37 | lamikr | INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP = "1" |
| 22:06.55 | lamikr | BBINCLUDELOGS = "yes" |
| 22:07.02 | lamikr | CVS_TARBALL_STASH = "http://www.oesources.org/source/current/" |
| 22:07.05 | lkcl | aww, do we _have_ to have debug builds? |
| 22:07.16 | lamikr | USE_NLS = "yes" |
| 22:07.17 | lamikr | USE_NLS_uclibc = "no" |
| 22:07.18 | lkcl | yep, got the BBINC |
| 22:07.52 | lkcl | what's nls |
| 22:07.55 | lkcl | ? |
| 22:07.57 | lamikr | If you want to use debugger for checking problems, then debug option is good. |
| 22:08.16 | lkcl | *sigh* *grump* yeh, you're right. |
| 22:08.19 | lamikr | I am not sure bout those nls things, I have just set them as they are. |
| 22:08.40 | lkcl | okay so i do bitbake gpe-image, yes? |
| 22:09.30 | lamikr | Then there is this floating point option... I have it remmed and let kernel/or glibc to do the floating point emulation instead of building gcc with soft float point support. |
| 22:09.49 | lamikr | I am not sure how that option needs to be for blueangel. |
| 22:10.13 | lkcl | oops :) |
| 22:10.20 | lamikr | So I have: #TARGET_FPU="soft" |
| 22:10.27 | lkcl | the ba is a pxa26x |
| 22:10.38 | lkcl | there isn't a TARGET_FPU in the local config file... |
| 22:11.16 | lamikr | Strange, I have it... |
| 22:11.30 | lamikr | But as I said, I have it remmed. |
| 22:11.31 | lkcl | it's only in distro files |
| 22:11.37 | lkcl | ack. |
| 22:12.10 | lamikr | not just: bitbake gpe-image |
| 22:12.36 | lkcl | off we gooooo, wheeee |
| 22:13.29 | lkcl | i _fully_ expect my £350 AMD64 system to overheat overnight |
| 22:14.04 | lamikr | Yes, better to leave it just running alone! You can find the rootfs from the tmp/deploy/images dir |
| 22:14.09 | lkcl | i love ebuyer.com - AMD64 processor: £75. motherboard: £45. 2gb memory: £75... |
| 22:14.28 | lkcl | okay. |
| 22:14.37 | lamikr | Wow |
| 22:15.00 | lkcl | it not a particularly _fast_ AMD64 processor - the 1.8ghz 2500+ |
| 22:15.06 | lamikr | I need to go to sleep... Say hello for cp15. |
| 22:15.08 | *** join/#htc-blueangel oho_ (n=oho@81-179-102-250.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 22:15.14 | lkcl | 3000+ |
| 22:15.16 | lkcl | k dude. |
| 22:15.24 | lkcl | likewise pretty soon |
| 22:15.28 | lkcl | heya oho |
| 22:15.35 | lamikr | How about cooling, can you keep it quiet easily? |
| 22:16.01 | lkcl | 6in fan, 2 processor fans, special one on the hard drive... so... ermmm... not really! :) |
| 22:16.26 | lkcl | quiet equals about £100 or more on water-cooling... |
| 22:16.52 | lkcl | btw i _do_ recommend drive fans - they go on the base of the HDD and have two 1.5in small fans. |
| 22:16.59 | lamikr | Somehow water still scares me... I have wondered how the mobile version of amd64 would work. |
| 22:17.04 | lkcl | keeps the air circulating properly |
| 22:17.17 | oho_ | \exit |
| 22:17.38 | lkcl | heat pipes, then, instead: they contain low-pressure water vapour. |
| 22:18.02 | lkcl | copper pipe. depressurised. tiny amount of water that, because of the pressure, boils at only 35C |
| 22:18.40 | lamikr | Yeah, need to thing... Now goodnight. |
| 22:18.43 | lkcl | one end on processor. other end on _massive_ passive heatsink with lots of vanes, outside the box. |
| 22:18.46 | lkcl | okay :) |
| 22:18.55 | lkcl | night lamikr. sorry. i talk too much |
| 22:19.23 | lamikr | No you dont! I want my h6300 also to work as a phone ... |
| 22:30.13 | lkcl | duh. of course. gomunicator is designed for phones with _much_ smaller screens than the thingy. xda. which would explain why the text on the buttons is so small - and crap. |
| 22:35.37 | cp15 | No problem to make them larger |
| 22:36.01 | cp15 | Checkout the source from xanadux, load the .glade file into glade and change however you like it |
| 22:38.56 | cp15 | BTW: Does someone know something about ELF? |
| 22:39.08 | lkcl | allo cp15 |
| 22:39.48 | lkcl | lamikr says hi and stuff, he had to go sleep |
| 22:39.53 | lkcl | happy build underway, btw... |
| 22:41.06 | cp15 | Sorry, I was watching a dvd |
| 22:41.34 | lkcl | it's round, cp15. |
| 22:41.52 | lkcl | round. definitely round. sometimes with pictures on :) |
| 22:42.33 | lkcl | i'm off to bed soon anyway - sort-of - the build seems to be going okay. |
| 22:42.53 | lkcl | but _damn_ monotone takes up 100% cpu on the first time it's run. |
| 22:43.18 | cp15 | Ok, if you see it this way: Actually the dvd player was watching the dvd :-) |
| 22:43.30 | lkcl | *cackle* that took you long enough to notice |
| 22:43.58 | cp15 | Yes, monotone and bitbake is slow |
| 22:44.08 | cp15 | But it works fairly well |
| 22:44.08 | lkcl | i'd be really worried if you said you were sitting there with a pencil, a cotton reel and a magnifying glass... |
| 22:44.40 | lkcl | there's debian build procedures for this kind of xxxx! |
| 22:45.24 | cp15 | Yeah, but it is probably not as flexible as openembedded |
| 22:45.35 | lkcl | hey - why does the phone keep popping into idle and back out again? |
| 22:45.46 | lkcl | true... |
| 22:45.51 | cp15 | Don't know |
| 22:46.12 | lkcl | every 10mins or so it goes "blurp", goes to idle, and then instantly out again. |
| 22:46.41 | cp15 | Ah... No, wrong, I know |
| 22:46.55 | lkcl | *shrug* - at least it tried :) |
| 22:47.30 | lkcl | ... you think i'm safe, leaving this computer to overheat overnight? |
| 22:47.34 | cp15 | The problem are the HTC signal messages, which occur frequently and bringing the phone out of its sleep |
| 22:47.45 | lkcl | ah. |
| 22:48.10 | lkcl | so you gotta monitor those, check them, and make it sleep again. |
| 22:48.18 | cp15 | Download gsminit from http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/misc/ |
| 22:48.22 | cp15 | and let it run |
| 22:48.48 | cp15 | It resets the gsm processor so you don't get the signal messages any more |
| 22:49.14 | lkcl | ... but that means i would have to reboot into wince... |
| 22:49.23 | cp15 | Why? |
| 22:49.42 | lkcl | oh - gsminit - it's not a wince program. whoopeee! |
| 22:50.22 | lkcl | oo, gsminit.c looks kinda worrying, dude :) |
| 22:50.32 | lkcl | mmap /dev/mem? oh dearie me |
| 22:50.49 | lkcl | what ever happened to PEEK and POKE from basic, huh? |
| 22:51.29 | cp15 | But be careful with the phone. I once had an expensive probem.. Hangup didn't work, and another call shorty after that placed the first call "on hold".... For two hours |
| 22:51.46 | lkcl | ooooo - ouch. |
| 22:51.46 | cp15 | I want to implement the functionality of gsminit as an ioctl |
| 22:51.56 | lkcl | ack. |
| 22:52.14 | lkcl | yes, that's the proper place for it. |
| 22:52.30 | cp15 | But first the pxa serial interface has to be extended to pass ioctls to the machine specific code |
| 22:52.39 | lkcl | urk. |
| 22:52.48 | lkcl | oh - btw - have you got an example kernel config? |
| 22:53.07 | cp15 | configs/blueangel_defconfig |
| 22:53.10 | lkcl | ack. |
| 22:58.19 | cp15 | I got the DOC partially to work today |
| 22:58.54 | cp15 | So soon we can use the internal flash for the os and the sd card for additional data like wikipedia, maps, mp3s and so on |
| 22:59.13 | cp15 | and videos |
| 22:59.51 | lkcl | whass DOC? |
| 23:00.06 | lkcl | thingy on chip, isn't it.. |
| 23:00.16 | cp15 | Disc On Chip aka Extended Rom |
| 23:00.27 | lkcl | that's right. i remember. |
| 23:00.42 | cp15 | A kind of on board sd card. But only 64 MB on the BA |
| 23:00.54 | cp15 | Together with the 32 MB of the pxa it should be enough |
| 23:01.44 | lkcl | that's quite a lot, really... |
| 23:02.41 | lkcl | dang sf is slow... AW BOLLOCKS. gcc compilation compilation failed with an internal compiler error. |
| 23:03.07 | cp15 | Maybe your machine got too hot? |
| 23:03.21 | lkcl | probably... |
| 23:04.26 | cp15 | You have used the development tree I have seen |
| 23:04.36 | lkcl | where's the build actually done, so i can try a "make"? |
| 23:04.37 | lkcl | yes. |
| 23:04.47 | cp15 | Hope they didn't use gcc4 again |
| 23:05.05 | lkcl | no. |
| 23:05.09 | cp15 | It doesn't compile many packages because of stricter error checking |
| 23:05.26 | cp15 | goto build/tmp/work |
| 23:05.43 | lkcl | staging... |
| 23:06.08 | lkcl | x8.. |
| 23:06.09 | cp15 | in package_name/temp there are files like run.do_compile.number |
| 23:06.11 | lkcl | nope you're right... |
| 23:06.21 | lkcl | found those... |
| 23:06.38 | cp15 | Try to execute it |
| 23:07.56 | cp15 | When it compiles, you can do the rest with bitbake -b <path to bb file> in the build directory |
| 23:08.03 | lkcl | FRAK. |
| 23:08.22 | cp15 | Hmm.... bitbake -b should also do the compile, probably easier than looking for the run scripts |
| 23:08.49 | lkcl | work/gcc-cross-initial-3.4.4-rc3/gtcc-3.4.4/build.x86_64-linux.arm-linux |
| 23:08.57 | lkcl | hmmm... that's not right. |
| 23:09.20 | lkcl | i specially logged in via the x86 (32-bit) area. |
| 23:09.23 | lkcl | bastard stupid thing. |
| 23:09.28 | lkcl | of course. |
| 23:09.43 | lkcl | it thinks i'm 64-bit... *sigh*... |
| 23:09.51 | lkcl | okay. |
| 23:09.58 | lkcl | what's the difference between python-psyco |
| 23:10.04 | lkcl | and python-psycopg |
| 23:10.06 | lkcl | ? |
| 23:10.27 | cp15 | Don't know |
| 23:10.59 | lkcl | .. looking it up... one is a just-in-time compiler, the other is postgresql libs :) |
| 23:11.09 | lkcl | okay *sigh*. |
| 23:11.19 | lkcl | i understand. it's only available for 32-bit processors. |
| 23:11.41 | lkcl | okay. how do i "make clean" everything? i need to redo this, in the native 64-bit environment. |
| 23:13.05 | cp15 | do a rm -rf tmp/build/package-name and rm tmp/stamps/package-name.* |
| 23:13.54 | lkcl | ack. |
| 23:17.04 | lkcl | hmmm... there's no tmp/build |
| 23:17.22 | lkcl | there is tmp/work/*/*/build.x86_64-linux... |
| 23:17.44 | lkcl | eehh, what the heck - delete the stamps, ignore the build thing and just run it and see :) |
| 23:18.57 | lkcl | oh, bollocks. the patches have already been applied... |
| 23:20.02 | cp15 | rm -rf tmp/work/package-name it should have been |
| 23:20.21 | lkcl | _excellent_ :) bye byeeee... |
| 23:20.29 | lkcl | off we go again... |
| 23:21.00 | lkcl | wheeee |
| 23:22.20 | lkcl | _drat_ - quilt-native do_patchcmd failed.. |
| 23:23.02 | lkcl | it would help if i installed the debian packages needed... |
| 23:35.25 | lkcl | okay - that's better. let's hope it works as expected... |
| 23:43.43 | lkcl | heya cp15 - where you get the cross-compiler from? you using debian? (kernel build. the version i have doesn't support -mcpu=xscale |
| 23:43.45 | lkcl | ) |
| 23:44.49 | cp15 | I used the one which gets created from openembedded |
| 23:46.11 | cp15 | I will go to bed now |
| 23:46.28 | lkcl | oh - right :) |
| 23:46.40 | lkcl | okay dude. night. thanks |