irclog2html for #htc-blueangel on 20051206

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00:04.08cp15Good night
00:37.47iclem~~
00:37.49aptEvery moment in which im called upon is torture
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09:26.39oho_hi
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09:55.14rob_w-cgihi all
10:19.50rob_w-cgihey oho .. how is it going , dude
12:32.09ohorob_w-cgi: are you using an SD card reader under linux ?
12:39.09ohoback in a sec
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13:00.41rob_w-cgiyes i am using one on linux !
13:19.45ohoI just got mine through the post and it sort off works, but I can't use a sd card which has multiple partitions, do they show up on yours ?
13:48.50rob_w-cgisorry for the delay .. yes they work fine for me !  is it a usb reader ??
13:57.33rob_w-cgidont you see the /dev/XXX popping up ? what does happen when you fdisk that device ?
14:36.18ohoI am doing multipe things at one at the moment and the card is in use right now. I will check later - cheers
14:41.41rob_w-cgiyep
15:02.21rob_w-cgigreat i found a company which claims to have a working DoC G3 driver for 2.6 ..contacting them now
15:03.58ohosg_scan -i
15:03.59oho/dev/sg0: scsi4 channel=0 id=0 lun=0 [em]
15:03.59oho<PROTECTED>
15:04.12ohobut fdisk can't open the card :-(
15:04.23ohoI might have got one of these cheap readers which don't work
15:07.11rob_w-cgihm sg
15:07.37rob_w-cgito it always is a sdX drive !
15:07.55rob_w-cgiis usb-storage used as driver ??
15:09.41ohojust found out that it is mapped to /dev/sg0  /dev/sda
15:09.50ohoand fdisk /dev/sda works
15:09.57ohoand shows the correct partitions
15:10.29ohoall working now
15:10.41ohohad to mount /dev/sda1
15:11.00rob_w-cgiah good
15:11.15ohothere are too many different devices :-(
15:11.30rob_w-cgihehe right ,,
15:14.27rob_w-cgiso , wanna show me your codes ?!? ;-)
15:25.41ohoI haven't had any time since we spoke last, but def. after the weekend - I know it's only Tuesday
15:40.53rob_w-cgino hurry ,, i am just keen to see
15:41.56rob_w-cgicool these guys send me a eval cd with their fancy linux os ( which hopefully carrys the diskonchip source code !! hehehe
15:42.31rob_w-cgiif that works out  we can save linux permantly !
15:55.17petaflothey
15:56.41ohohi petaflot
15:57.02ohorob_w-cgi: what is this driver good for ?
16:11.08rob_w-cgithat is a driver for the 64MB DiskOnChip
16:11.34rob_w-cgiso that is the area where the BA holds the static data , aka your ppc and provider stuff
16:34.20petaflotI was wondering.. does any of you make a daily use of the blueangel?
16:44.23rob_w-cgicp15 claims to do that !
16:45.22rob_w-cgihehe but yet it is not tobe declared "stable" in my opinion ... oho fe will work on the gomunicator ( phone ) app to rewrite it a bit these days .. so if you keen to just use it , stay tuned and check back some weeks
17:08.57petaflotthanks.. guess it's what I'll do
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20:35.08cp15Good morning
20:42.35rob_whey dude
20:42.43cp15Hi rob
20:44.02rob_whey i found a company who claims to have a DoC G3 driver for 2.6 .. they are sending my a Eval CD
20:47.18cp15I am very close to having one, too
20:48.19rob_wgreat , anyway seems we have one in them soon !
20:49.54rob_wwell they claim they have a "revamped DoC" driver .. how about yours ?? ;-)
20:51.56cp15I have taken the motorola one. It is for 2.4, but I am writing a compatibility layer. The partitions are already recognized
20:58.39cp15Is your driver for ARM?
21:13.58rob_wthey say
21:14.27rob_wbut i am unsure if the give the source out :-|
21:16.09rob_wwhy do you need such " a layer" ?
21:20.07cp15They probably won't
21:20.30cp15The driver is binary only, and of course 2.4 functionality is different to 2.6
21:20.47rob_wthey better do
21:22.05cp15I think M-SYS doesn't give out the source
21:25.54rob_wnice ,, they dont mention that very clearly , but on the other side they "talk alot about Linux , bla blah "
22:57.03*** join/#htc-blueangel lamikr|sleep (n=chatzill@aragorn.kortex.jyu.fi)
22:57.10lamikr|sleepHi CP
23:03.52lamikrcp15: I have now gomunicator with initial config options ready. Could I send it for you for you as a patch file for testing?
23:17.59cp15Sure... But I am too lazy to test it today
23:20.26lamikrcp15: Well, I will go to sleep also soon. It put device, initString and some config options to own struct that is defined in new configmodel.h and initialized in configmodel.h...
23:20.49cp15Ok, can you do DCC?
23:21.03lamikrIf you make cat /proc/cpuinfo, what is the hardware name displayed for blueangel.
23:21.10lamikrcp15: What is DCC?
23:21.49cp15Direct Client Connect
23:22.09cp15The IRC protocol for transferring data and other things
23:23.31lamikrcp15: I am not sure. I have forget my freenode password, so I am not currently logged in.
23:24.12cp15Doesn't matter, I have enabled unregistered connects
23:25.02lamikrOk, can you wait 5 minutes, I prepare the patch file. Just checked out the original gomunicator from cvs.
23:30.21*** join/#htc-blueangel lkcl (n=lkcl@bb-87-82-26-80.ukonline.co.uk)
23:30.31lkclhello
23:31.23lamikrcp15: Ok, patch is ready... Now I need to find out how to make DCC transfer.
23:31.35lamikrhi lkcl
23:31.43lkcli was wondering: i worked on the xda-2 back when 2.6.3 was current.  am interested in finding out what happened, since then.
23:31.50lkclhello lamikr
23:32.22lkclmake me happy: tell me that you _didn't_ reduplicate the work i did on the tsc2200 driver and the xda-2 framebuffer driver :)
23:32.51lkcl... and does anyone know what happened to job (w4xy)?
23:33.55lkcland - the ultimate question: does it basically work!
23:34.50lkclthe htc-blueangel, that is, as a phone? (yes i noticed about the gsm working)
23:37.02lkcllots of questions, i know :)
23:37.32lamikrlkcl: Sorry, I was trying to get dcc connection working...
23:37.51cp15Hi lkcl, great to have you here
23:37.53lkclnp lamikr.
23:38.06lkclhello cp15, thanks!
23:38.18lkcli've still got my xda-2, running wince *shudder*.
23:38.35cp15Don't know much about w4xy, except that he gave me a developer status on xanadux
23:38.45lkcli was wondering if it's about time to thrust it down the toilet and get something that runs linux (as a phone)
23:38.49lamikrlkcl: I do not have myself blueangel, I use instead iPAQ h6340 and I am working to get phone working with that. What cp15 has told, phone works well with blueangel.
23:39.09cp15Blueangel does work as a phone, I am using it daily
23:39.15lkclcp15: tell me this is true - you can use linux on the YEEEEEHHHAW :)
23:39.24lkcli want one, i want one.
23:39.41cp15Main Problem is currently the too high battery drain, but it is nearly fixed
23:39.49lkclwhy the friggin hell isn't this being shouted out at the top of everyone's voices? :)
23:40.25lamikrcp15: I read form the chatzilla manual that I should be able to use "/dcc-chat cp15" to make dcc connection but that seems to fail. Can I send the patch in email?
23:40.31lkcli mean - it's got wifi, it's got bluetooth, it's got gsm/gprs.... i am confused
23:40.41lkclthank you, cp15: you've made me very happy.
23:40.47cp15I like a small user base until everything works ok
23:40.57cp15To disappoint you: wifi is not yet working
23:41.09lkclokay.  know any cheap-cheap suppliers of these phones, then?
23:41.26cp15lamikr: Probably best if you send it via mail
23:42.28cp15I got one from my network operator at 370 Euro (including contract extension), and two from eBay at about 300 Euro
23:42.47lamikrcp15: I think I just do not have your email address, can you wrote it for me?
23:43.14cp15Don't you have a new window or tab with my private chat?
23:43.27lkclcp15: thanks.  that's not bad.  i may speak to thingy.  O2.  see if they do one, see what my unused upgrade time would get me
23:43.35lkclas a discount.
23:44.17lkcl... where the heck _is_ w4xy these days, anyway?  i haven't heard from him for over a year, now.
23:44.20cp15That would be great. A few more developers are really needed in the project
23:44.25lamikrcp15: Yes, I seem to have.
23:45.58cp15BTW: There is one person working on merging the BA progress into the himalaya
23:47.17lkclo2's web site is _awful_ :)
23:49.51lkclis the htc-blueangel known as the O2 XDA IIi ?
23:50.03cp15XDA IIs I think
23:50.07lkclor is that different from the XDA III?
23:50.12lkclurk...
23:51.04lkclah _ha_ yep got it. ta cp15.
23:51.12lkclhttp://mobileguide.o2.co.uk/devices/MasterT34.jsp?intDeviceId=181
23:52.43lkclokay: it being nearly midnight, i'd better sign off - i'll be back if i can find meself the £200 or so to get one of these, k?
23:53.37cp15Ok
23:53.48cp15One last querstion, since you wrote the touchscreen driver
23:54.49cp15I have a strange problem when asking the ts dac to get the battery levels. After that, it seems that the "touchscreen pressed" bit doesn't work anymore like it should
23:54.54cp15Do you have any idea?
23:55.20lkcllemme think.
23:55.34lkcli never _did_ get on to the battery stuff.
23:55.51lkclat the time i wrote it, i was having difficulties
23:56.00lkclreading x and y independently and validly
23:56.24lkclso i put in some hacks that said "if x jumps to zero and messes about, ignore the x and y values"...
23:56.37cp15That works great, after I added a little bit of debouncing
23:56.42lkclthere was some awful stuff in the tech sheet, though
23:56.51lkclabout timings and resets and stuff.
23:57.21lkclah - the whole point of the tsc2200 was that it automatically did averaging of 16 samples so you didn't _have_ to do debouncing!!!! :)
23:57.25lkcldoes.
23:57.58cp15No, the problem is that the pen goes up and down several times before it is really on the surface
23:58.15cp15And when the converter runs when the pen is up, you get the "0" values
23:58.29lkcloh dear.  ah, okay.  well, their averaging didn't really work, then, did it :)
23:59.00cp15Seems so...
23:59.06lkclat the risk of stating the obvious: you've considered resetting the device after a battery read?
23:59.23lkclthere was a _lot_ of status info changing going on.
23:59.30lkclalso - this is important:
23:59.55lkclthe SPI interface you _must_ match the number of 16-bit words written with an equal number of 16-bit words read.

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