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00:14.10cp15And good night
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11:41.10cp15Good morning
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13:13.22magnethi
15:19.00Funklordhttp://vibes.se/gallery/2005-11-20_el_trousers
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17:30.53cp15Good morning
17:32.00magnethi.
17:38.43cp15Hi magnet, any progress on the magician?
17:39.17bhimaOne of my co-workers now has the blueangel :(
17:39.20magnethell no :(
17:39.37bhimaI'm going back to the US, and it's hard to get enough phone accounts to make all my phones happy.
17:39.48magnetI still can t boot any kernel.
17:40.10magnetcp15: did you heard anything new about it ?
17:40.22bhimaBut I still have an h6300, and a 770, and I need a phone control UI for the 770. So gomunnicator might be very nice.
17:42.18cp15bhima: When do you go back?
17:43.59bhimacp15: Monday -> Frankfurt, Tuesday FRA -> IAD.
17:44.39bhimaI shouldn't really be on irc.
17:45.10cp15Ok, have a nice trip. Hope you will visit this channel again when you are at home
17:45.26bhimaOh, definitely! I want to remotely get LInux on the blueangel at work :)
17:46.06cp15:-) I think that will be a bit difficult
17:46.42bhimaThe co-worker who's playing with it is clueful.
17:46.56bhimaAnd he has a USB/serial dock too.
18:30.21Funklordcp15: http://vibes.se/gallery/2005-11-20_el_trousers
18:37.07cp15:-) Cool
18:39.10Funklord=D
18:39.33FunklordI wore them at the clubs this weekend
18:39.47cp15And? Did you get attention?
18:41.14Funklordit was a pretty hot topic =P
18:41.41cp15Did you get some chicks with it?
18:42.02Funklordpeople don't notice it in clubs until you go out, they think it's the UV effect =P
18:42.23Funklord<PROTECTED>
18:42.57cp15Hmm... Ok, maybe you should have choosen red or green as color...
18:43.09Funklordcp15: nah, I wasn't out to pick up anyone, was with a very good lady friend
18:43.15cp15A 555? Ah, ok, you want to make it flashing
18:43.25Funklordyeah, probably flickering
18:43.38FunklordI was thinking about audio control too
18:43.52cp15Or you could send a morse code ;-)
18:44.36FunklordI have an old mic-audio controlled flasher, gotta check if it'll work with 12V
18:44.58Funklordtoo lazy to build another =P
18:46.32Funklordhmm.. wonder how many people know morse codes still =P
18:48.45cp15At least SOS should be pretty well known
18:48.59cp15But this might lead to some mistakes ;-)
18:49.32cp15But audio control would be a nice idea
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19:16.49cp15Hi ooer
19:48.37cp15Nothing going on here
19:48.45cp15Even ChanServ has left ;-)
19:49.44TelePuzikHi there
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19:50.46magnethi.
19:51.22TelePuzikWhat's up
19:53.25cp15Nothing, it seems
19:53.46cp15Nobody here who wants to test the newest image?
19:54.00TelePuzikgive the link i will
19:54.26cp15Just a moment, I have to tar and upload it
19:54.31TelePuzik:)
19:54.32TelePuzikok
19:54.45TelePuzikin this mean time will reformat the MMC
19:54.48TelePuzikSD
20:03.36cp15Ok, so I guess you have a card reader?
20:03.42TelePuzikyes
20:03.48TelePuziki had an older version hh4
20:03.53TelePuzikinstalled will delete it
20:04.02cp15You should find everything you need at http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/
20:04.19TelePuzikhh2.gz
20:04.25TelePuziki had hh4
20:04.28cp15Yes
20:04.39cp15The naming isn't very consequent
20:04.44TelePuzikshould i do any manual settings in /arp
20:04.49TelePuzikapm
20:04.57cp15No, I have already disabled it
20:05.20cp15That reminds me to add an updated X-Server to the image which doesn't have apm problems
20:06.00TelePuzikok
20:08.21cp15So put everything except gpe-ba.tar.bz on the first partition in a folder linux
20:08.37cp15edit startup.txt to contain "boot_mmc=y" in set CMDLINE
20:08.51cp15Untar the gpe-ba.tar.bz on the second partition
20:09.25cp15Backup everything if you haven't yet and run haret
20:09.31TelePuzikbacked uo
20:09.33TelePuzikup
20:26.00cp15Is gnulinux.biz also slow on your side?
20:26.55TelePuziklet me check
20:27.07TelePuziki already download the files
20:27.13TelePuziknow unmounting the SD
20:27.52cp15Ok, then it is probably a problem on my side
20:28.03TelePuzikthere is a file Autorun missing there
20:28.10TelePuzikactually no need
20:28.19TelePuziki can load it manually ;)
20:28.22TelePuzikbetter
20:28.58cp15I encountered a problem with autorun
20:29.25cp15When the initrd is too big, setup does something strange to haret and it replies with an error
20:29.31TelePuzikwhats the account to log on
20:29.36TelePuzikroot rootme?
20:29.45TelePuzikoh!
20:29.48cp15You will get a requester to setup an account
20:29.52TelePuzikbooting linux
20:30.00cp15There is no root password
20:30.02TelePuzikStarting port map
20:30.07TelePuzikgood :)
20:30.23cp15No, actually you shouldn't see the starting portmap... Hmmm
20:30.46TelePuziki am getting Starting Portmap daemon
20:30.49TelePuzikand thinking
20:30.58TelePuzikit says
20:31.12TelePuziknothing in /proc - not mounted?
20:31.26TelePuzikand the cursor is flashing
20:31.37cp15Can you ping it at 192.168.0.206?
20:31.39TelePuziknot INIT ID"TO"
20:32.00TelePuzikno more processes left in the runlevel
20:32.32cp15Does it tell something about pivot_root?
20:33.10TelePuzikpivot_root
20:33.15TelePuzikno such file or directory
20:33.26cp15Oh... Let me check
20:33.27TelePuzikbefore it
20:33.55TelePuzikmount: /proc/filesystems: no such file or directory
20:34.35TelePuzikbefore it aslo
20:34.51cp15Ok, can you log in?
20:35.07TelePuzikVFS: can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev mmcblk0p2
20:35.26cp15Oh... That is the problem
20:35.42cp15Which filesystem did you use on the second partition?
20:35.55TelePuzikext3
20:36.02cp15Should be ok
20:36.06TelePuzikmkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc2
20:36.12TelePuzikok will reformat it then
20:36.12cp15Correct
20:36.21cp15Can you log in to the device?
20:36.25TelePuziknope
20:36.34TelePuziktrying to see why i can't see the USB0
20:36.41TelePuzikafter the modprobe usbnet
20:36.58cp15Hmm... Try if you can mount /dev/sdc2 on your host
20:38.53TelePuzikon the PC you mean?
20:38.56cp15Yes
20:42.31TelePuzikyeah
20:42.35TelePuzikgetting error
20:42.43TelePuzikcan't find ext3 filesystem
20:43.15cp15Hmmm... Strange...
20:43.29cp15Run the mkfs and unpack the image again
20:43.42TelePuzikyes
20:43.46TelePuzikreformating
20:43.48cp15Don't forget to issue a sync before removing the card
20:44.06TelePuzikah that might be it
20:52.57TelePuzikumount /old/boot no such file or directory
20:53.06TelePuzikloaded successfully
20:53.12TelePuziki see a hand
20:53.13TelePuzik:)
20:53.21TelePuzikbooting please wait ;)
20:54.04cp15Will take 2-3 minutes at first boot
20:54.27TelePuzikthere is a balck square in coorner of the top left of the picture
20:54.53cp15Hmm... Maybe a race condition with the cursor
20:55.10cp15Not harmful, I think ;-)
20:55.10TelePuzikmight be
20:55.22TelePuzik:)
20:55.28TelePuzikstill loading
20:55.32TelePuzikis that normal?
20:56.17cp15Can you ping it?
20:56.46TelePuzikat the top i can see Entering run level 5
20:57.14TelePuzikgot the alignement screen
20:58.02cp15Good, hope it works
20:58.33TelePuziklogged in
21:00.09TelePuzikcan't configure ifconfig usb0
21:00.16TelePuzikneed to reboot Linux
21:02.30TelePuzikthe clodk i guess its analog by default its displaying white square
21:02.37TelePuzikyeah
21:02.42TelePuzikchanged it to 24 hours
21:08.57TelePuzikyes its pingable from host
21:09.42cp15Ok, then ssh should also work
21:09.51TelePuzikyes
21:09.54TelePuziklogged in
21:09.59TelePuzikand got a message
21:10.16TelePuzikIT is possible that someone is doing something nasty
21:10.17TelePuzik:)
21:10.33cp15Ah, this is because of the new ssh key
21:10.38TelePuzikplease contact your system administrator
21:10.42TelePuzikyes
21:10.45TelePuzikthats it
21:10.57cp15Download the ipkgs at http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/ipkg/ and install them
21:11.03TelePuzikhost key verification failed
21:11.17cp15BTW: What is your boardid? dmesg | grep -i "board id"
21:13.17TelePuziknothing :s
21:13.21TelePuzikis on grep
21:14.07cp15Then it is probably already out of the dmesg buffer
21:14.38TelePuzikcan we resume it?
21:14.57cp15Hmm... Just a moment
21:16.01TelePuzikwill copy the 4 packages on the SD then will reboot the PDA
21:16.10TelePuzikor there is another way to copy?
21:16.26cp15Why reboot?
21:16.47cp15Just copy them into /tmp on your BA and then run ipkg install /tmp/filename.ipk
21:17.07TelePuzikhow to copy them?
21:17.28TelePuzikwget?
21:17.29cp15Ok, download them to your pc, then use scp *.ipk root@192.168.0.206:/tmp
21:17.37TelePuzikok
21:23.10TelePuzikdone
21:23.33TelePuzik4 packages in tmp dir
21:23.51cp15Run ipkg install /tmp/filename.ipk for each
21:23.55cp15gomunicator last
21:25.35TelePuzikdone
21:25.56cp15Ok, then lets give it a try. Did you get the gomunicator icon on the desktop?
21:26.34TelePuziknope
21:26.55TelePuzikshould i log out an i
21:26.56TelePuzikin
21:27.03TelePuzikrelogin
21:27.11cp15Hmm... Yes, try it
21:27.29cp15Normally it should appear automatically, but maybe there is a bug
21:27.43cp15Ah... I maybe know... The time
21:28.21TelePuzikdesktop background changed into blue
21:28.46TelePuzikthe clock is not aligned the minute are partially hidden behind the battery
21:28.57cp15Yes, known gpe bug
21:29.02TelePuzik:)
21:30.05cp15Do you have the gomunicator icon now?
21:30.14TelePuziknope
21:30.26cp15Hmm... Ok, I have to verify this.
21:30.36cp15Then start it from the command line
21:30.54cp15But not via ssh, it is missing a session environment variable
21:31.16cp15Goto Utilities, Terminal and type in gomunicator
21:31.43TelePuzikcannot open /dev/gsm0
21:31.58cp15ls -l /dev/gsm0
21:32.21TelePuzikno such file or directory
21:32.45cp15ln -s /dev/tts/0 /dev/gsm0
21:33.06cp15Then retry
21:34.05TelePuzikpermission denied
21:34.14TelePuzikchmod ?
21:34.35TelePuzikcannot open /dev/gsm0
21:34.42TelePuziki did it through SSH
21:34.50cp15as root: chown <your user> /dev/tts/0
21:35.35TelePuzikcan't attach default card mixed
21:35.37TelePuzikmixer
21:35.44cp15ls -l /dev/mixer
21:35.47cp15ls -l /dev/dsp
21:35.50cp15ls -l /dev/sound
21:36.28TelePuzikall are root ownder
21:36.31TelePuzikowners
21:36.34TelePuzikhmm
21:36.41TelePuzikinstalling through SSH bad idea
21:37.03cp15Please show me the exact output of the ls -l
21:38.17TelePuziklrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 sep 2 1994 /dev/mixer->sound
21:38.42TelePuziklrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 sep 2 1994 /dev/mixer->sound
21:39.01TelePuziklrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 sep 2 1994 /dev/mixer->dsp
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21:39.30TelePuzikcrw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 sep 2 1994 audio
21:40.20TelePuzikcrwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 sep 2 1994 dsp
21:40.44TelePuzik0 crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 0 sep 2 1994 mixer
21:40.53cp15Ok, thanks
21:41.04TelePuzikoh sotty
21:41.13TelePuzikmistake with the last three
21:41.31TelePuzikcrwxrwxrwx 1 cyrus root 14, 3 sep 2 1994 dsp
21:41.45TelePuziksame thing for last mixer
21:41.56cp15Ok, looks good
21:42.24TelePuzikbut that where for the /dev/sound/
21:42.41cp15The links are probably ok
21:42.46TelePuzik./dev/sound audio dsp and mixer
21:42.57rob_whi
21:42.58cp15ls -l /dev/snd/controlC0
21:42.58rob_wcp15, nice domain you have
21:43.03cp15Hi rob
21:43.06cp15Which domain?
21:43.36rob_wthe i added in the topic
21:43.37TelePuzikcp15 no file
21:43.47cp15No file?
21:43.51TelePuzikyep no file
21:44.08TelePuzikhave only three files
21:45.28cp15rob: No, it isn't my domain, it is Funklords
21:45.57cp15He offered us kindly some space to put there our stuff
21:46.09cp15No, not /dev/sound, /dev/snd
21:46.14cp15(No typo)
21:46.16rob_wah i see
21:46.58cp15Just imagine: He has a up and downlink of 10 MBit (next year 100 MBit) at HOME!
21:47.25rob_wsweden , he !?!
21:47.34cp15Yes
21:47.48rob_wnice !
21:48.10rob_wi was planning to go ski in sweden at one point ( in my life )
21:48.30cp15I think we have to wait very long here to get that speed
21:49.04rob_wwell as soon as t-com is off the picture , i think it will get quicker
21:49.33rob_wstill , if you pay you get 10 also at home !
21:49.55cp15Yeah, but probably more than the 30 euros it costs Funklord
21:50.00rob_wmoney is "the hill to climb"
21:50.12cp15TelePuzik: Download and install ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/distributions/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/strace_4.5.11-r1_arm.ipk
21:50.36cp15And then run strace -o /tmp/strace.out gomunicator and send me /tmp/strace.out
21:50.56TelePuzikcp15 0 crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 0 sep 2 1994 /dev/snd/controlC0
21:51.04rob_whmm , thats kinda cool , we could also setup a  gpe world feed there
21:51.16cp15Ah, ok
21:51.29cp15TelePuzik: chmod 666 /dev/snd/controlC0
21:51.44cp15Then try again
21:51.45rob_w~hail Funklord
21:51.47aptACTION bows down to Funklord and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
21:52.59rob_w" Lord Funk  ,  RISE !! "  bshhhooooochchhh ...fffsfsssssss
21:54.37rob_wNov 20, 2005   11:38 AM
21:54.37rob_w
21:54.37rob_wIn transit  
21:54.37rob_w
21:54.37rob_wNUERNBERG DE    is where my new toy , a wide screen tablet pc is  hurray
21:55.10TelePuzikcp15 unable to download
21:55.54cp15BTW: I auctioned two BAs for development. I will keep one for myself and lend the other one to whomever might need it
21:56.02rob_wcp15, what is all updated , gomunicator ?? and also stuff in that kernel ?
21:56.16rob_wwow
21:57.10cp15TelePuzik: Can you do DCC?
21:57.19rob_wif i have a working phone , i would spend more time on it , but i am in a need of a full working phone ,,,
21:57.41cp15It is very close :-)
21:58.05TelePuzikcp15 it worked ok
21:58.09TelePuzikrequesting pin
21:58.26cp15Ok, after entering the pin it might hang a few seconds
21:58.35rob_wyeah and i willl praise you when we have that cp15  , then from there on i am able to concentrate some more
21:58.35cp15I think we need asynchronous commands
21:59.43rob_wso you dont need to wait for the answers ?!?
21:59.51cp15rob: Do you also get a Nokia 770?
22:00.28rob_wprobably not yet , i go some work to do with a tablet pc , from a different manufacturer
22:00.37rob_ws/go/got
22:01.04cp15Yes, the "Register at Network" takes very long (at least about 8 seconds). We don't want to wait for a response and block the gui that long
22:01.12rob_wif i do that well , i might have a fall back job when i get fired
22:01.24cp15Do you expected to get fired?
22:01.31rob_wkinda
22:01.37cp15Why that?
22:02.04rob_wthe company is "divesting" som parts of the buisness , unfortunately i am part of "that part"
22:02.22rob_wwhich either leaves me in a new company or worse
22:03.03rob_wbut maybe i find my way back into "tablet pc`s "
22:04.08cp15Ah, better help in BA development and get world famous with job opportunities all over the world ;-)
22:04.14rob_wwould be cool to work from home .. though i would need to train my "coding brain " and this time for real
22:04.35TelePuzikcp15 installed strace
22:04.59rob_wyeah , you dont believe but that is my actualy target long term ,, in some definition ,, at least live from it
22:06.19cp15TelePuzik: Well, since gomunicator seems to work now, it actually isn't necessary any longer. But strace is a nice tool, always good to have it installed
22:06.54rob_wcp15, what win debugger do you use .. to "strace" win apps for reengineering purposes
22:06.58TelePuzikcp15 but i still don't see the shortcut in desktop
22:06.58cp15rob: It was only half a joke. Read http://ganesha.gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/linux/a780/ (Fri, 21 Oct 2005)
22:07.50cp15rob: Any idea why gomunicator might not show up in the start menu and on the desktop?
22:08.41rob_whang on i check
22:09.11cp15BTW: rob, are you at the CCC congress between the years?
22:09.43TelePuzikcp15 after rerunning gomunicator i am getting providor display LV LMT GSM LV LM
22:09.53rob_wcat /usr/share/gomunicator.desktop
22:10.00TelePuzikshould be only LM LMT GSM
22:10.10TelePuzikLV LMT GSM*
22:10.31cp15Harald Welte will give a talk about linux on motorola phones and I hope I can convince him to tell also something about linux on HTC Blueangel
22:10.51rob_wis that the guy from the blog =
22:11.24cp15TelePuzik: I would call this a minor problem... But maybe we can investigate it further a bit later
22:11.42TelePuzikyep
22:12.36cp15Yes, I know him personally, we both worked in our spare time for the "Kommunikationsnetz Franken", a little ISP.
22:13.02rob_win the week after christmas and where =?
22:13.25cp15Berlin
22:14.29cp15See https://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/wiki/22C3_Public_Wiki
22:15.35cp15If you need a lift you can drive with me (leaving 26th about noon, coming back 31th afternoon)
22:17.41rob_wno vacation in this period
22:17.43TelePuzikcp15 i am in session log of log display of the system information
22:18.04TelePuzikcp15 getting error df:/dev/static/dev: permission denied
22:18.44rob_wwhat changes are in the latest gomunicator ipk you have there cp15 ??
22:19.09cp15Just a few bugfixes
22:19.31cp15It was built by immolo after your .bb from the cvs
22:19.51rob_whmm i didnt saw changes at the cvs lately ?
22:20.10rob_wthats why i asked if it was based on your codes
22:20.42cp15I haven't change much on gomunicator the last time
22:21.28rob_wdid immolo got his bb already at oe.org ?
22:21.44cp15Last commit was on 2005/11/12 16:40:36
22:22.07cp15Don't know, but it is there. I got it in my oe tree
22:25.49rob_woe.org is quite down and i cant find my docs to update my tree .. will see after some nicotine
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22:30.14cp15No, not yet
22:30.33cp15I will look into it again as soon as I got the power management fixed
22:30.58rob-w_bahow are  u doin there ?
22:31.32cp15I got the BA into deep suspend mode, but after wakeup the display didn't work
22:31.53rob-w_bahmm
22:31.53cp15It was just white
22:32.47rob-w_badiid u try the vesa fb ?
22:33.13rob-w_baor do u think itbwas a lcd thing ?
22:33.22cp15It isn't a framebuffer problem. The hardware just can't display anything
22:33.51cp15I will check the LCD shutdown and restart sequences, maybe the problem is there
22:34.27rob-w_bathe tsc2200 stuff looks good
22:35.13cp15It has also a problem with deep suspend. If you touch the screen after deep suspend, the device will lock up
22:35.48rob-w_baoh no
22:36.13cp15Probably easy to fix
22:39.12rob_wcp15, i was planning to move the tsc2200 files one dir up in the kernel tree , therefore we notice not only in the himalaya parts .. also to move the himalay_ts3 into a differnt name so itreflects them both blueangel and himalaya .. something like htc-ts3( or 4 ;-)
22:40.10rob_wok am done soon today ,, cu all
22:42.00cp15I always wondered why it is called ts3
22:42.29cp15The idea is nice, especially if we use the 2.6 driver subsystem
22:42.46cp15I think I will also go to bed
22:42.56cp15Good night
22:43.03TelePuzikGoodnight
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23:48.37FunklordI was soldering some stuff
23:48.56Funklordit usually takes all my concentration =P

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