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| 03:05.01 | duffolonious | I see that you can use the modem, but can it be used as a fully functional phone (one site I see says no sound, but it might be old). |
| 03:05.05 | duffolonious | ? |
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| 18:14.35 | cp15 | Good morning |
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| 20:56.44 | immolo | bhima- you around? |
| 20:58.49 | bhima | sorta. |
| 21:00.04 | immolo | I was wondering if you knew how well symbian does at emulating |
| 21:01.12 | bhima | What do you mean? |
| 21:03.11 | immolo | I was wondering if symbian was powerful enough to run genesis or gameboy games |
| 21:03.36 | immolo | gives my ba a rest due to the crappy buttons |
| 21:04.14 | bhima | What sort of Symbian device do you have? |
| 21:04.28 | bhima | http://my-symbian.com/7650/download/search.php?name=GoBoy Not sure how good this emulator is. |
| 21:04.41 | immolo | 6680 so S60 |
| 21:04.52 | immolo | :O ScummVM is ported to it :O |
| 21:05.35 | immolo | and an anti virus program :P |
| 21:06.44 | bhima | I had somebody sending me trojans once. |
| 21:07.04 | immolo | damn that sucks |
| 21:07.23 | bhima | It didn't suck. I just wished I could find him and smack him. |
| 21:07.26 | immolo | but that means symbian is more targeted than ppc |
| 21:07.59 | immolo | as I've never heard of a pocket pc trojan |
| 21:08.52 | bhima | There are far more series60 phones than PPC phones. |
| 21:09.17 | bhima | Trojans are more likely to target s60 than UIQ due to its popularity. |
| 21:10.09 | immolo | I suppose I have only just been noticing them more |
| 21:11.57 | immolo | like I've started to notice ppc more since owning my himalaya etc |
| 21:14.43 | immolo | well there is quite a few emulators for the S60 |
| 21:27.33 | bhima | symbian is a real OS, no question about it. |
| 21:30.28 | immolo | I'm liking symbian the more I see of it |
| 21:38.44 | bhima | Have you seen its APIs? |
| 21:42.13 | immolo | not yet |
| 21:42.52 | immolo | I'm still replacing some of the crap nokia install by default |
| 21:46.11 | bhima | Symbian development ain't fun. |
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| 21:50.24 | bwegh | hi all |
| 21:51.23 | bwegh | what should the linux boot look like? |
| 21:51.48 | bwegh | and is linux "only" running on top of windows or is it overwriting the windows memory? |
| 21:52.32 | bhima | It wipes your Windows storage space when you boot. WinCE stores most of your data in DRAM. |
| 21:53.00 | bwegh | thats what i thought - ok, so what should the boot look like? |
| 21:53.23 | bwegh | i have done the simple step in the wiki and saw tux getting warmer ;) |
| 21:53.32 | immolo | bhima- I'll leave stuff like that to you :P anyway what nokia are you working on now? |
| 21:54.18 | bwegh | now i see the output of the kernel, stopping with ser_stuart_gpio_config 1 after starting the portmap |
| 21:54.24 | bwegh | why cant i see gpe? |
| 21:54.33 | immolo | you need to ssh in |
| 21:54.41 | bwegh | and then? |
| 21:55.04 | immolo | load all the needed modules and pivot_root into the gpe-image |
| 21:55.26 | bhima | immolo: An n-gage. Though it just died recently :( |
| 21:55.39 | bhima | should take ~2 weeks for them to locate a replacement and send it to me. |
| 21:55.54 | immolo | cool |
| 21:56.08 | bhima | I'm hoping to get a 6680 soon. |
| 21:56.16 | immolo | they are nice |
| 21:56.40 | bwegh | immolo: first of all: thanks! ;) and what are the needed modules? and why isnt this done by an init script? |
| 21:56.50 | immolo | the lack of memory is it's main let down |
| 21:57.04 | bhima | immolo: lack of memory? |
| 21:57.14 | immolo | bwegh- the ba linux is still in early days |
| 21:57.23 | immolo | bhima- it only has 64mb of mmc |
| 21:57.41 | immolo | and the phone has the same built in |
| 21:57.51 | bhima | immolo: so...1gb rs-mmc...problem...solved...? |
| 21:58.15 | immolo | should come tomorrow |
| 21:58.28 | immolo | oh the camera is worse then the ba also |
| 21:58.49 | bhima | Really? worse than the BA? That's lame. |
| 21:58.55 | bwegh | immolo: which modules do i have to load? or just all i can find? |
| 21:59.30 | immolo | the quaily in viewfinder is much better then the ba but once you take one the image becomes blocky |
| 21:59.38 | immolo | jpeg compression maybe |
| 22:00.04 | immolo | bwegh- err check the forum there is a list of all needed modules and the order needed to load in |
| 22:00.16 | bwegh | ok thanks |
| 22:00.25 | immolo | been awhile since I've booted linux :P |
| 22:00.46 | bwegh | i hope because it is still running?! |
| 22:48.36 | bwegh | immolo: i am unable to find the list of modules to load, you mentioned and i am unable to log into the device, i am getting no usb0 network device although usbnet is loaded |
| 22:55.39 | bwegh | cp15: which module and in which order do i have to load on linux for the ba? |
| 23:00.03 | bwegh | anyone here willing to help me starting gpe on my ba? |
| 23:15.14 | cp15 | bwegh: Still here? |
| 23:16.49 | bwegh | yes |
| 23:17.04 | cp15 | Do you have any development experience? |
| 23:17.21 | bwegh | cp15: i am now connected to the ba by usb - ssh running |
| 23:17.26 | bwegh | cp15, yes, some |
| 23:18.03 | bwegh | cp15, although not that much in linux :/ |
| 23:18.12 | cp15 | Maybe you could put the installation procedure in a little script? |
| 23:18.29 | bwegh | an init - script? |
| 23:18.45 | cp15 | Something like that |
| 23:18.51 | bwegh | thats what i wanted to do after this ;) |
| 23:19.01 | cp15 | Currently installation works like this: |
| 23:19.19 | cp15 | Copy some files to a sd card |
| 23:19.29 | cp15 | Boot linux from sd card |
| 23:19.36 | cp15 | Save the files from the sd card |
| 23:19.43 | cp15 | Repartition the sd card |
| 23:20.01 | cp15 | Untar the gpe image on the second partition |
| 23:20.04 | cp15 | Patch some files |
| 23:20.07 | cp15 | Reboot |
| 23:20.28 | cp15 | But it is probably a bit too complicated for the "normal" user |
| 23:20.37 | bwegh | hehe |
| 23:20.44 | bwegh | i know what you are thinking of |
| 23:21.04 | cp15 | Then tell me what I am thinking... |
| 23:21.35 | bwegh | a small windows like "fire me and i will run" |
| 23:22.00 | cp15 | Yes... Exactly |
| 23:22.27 | cp15 | My wish would be a zip file which you can put on the sd card |
| 23:22.36 | bwegh | i started with partition the sd and only copyed some files ... like written here: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel (simple instruction) |
| 23:23.04 | cp15 | Ok, do you want to help with the installation system? |
| 23:23.15 | bwegh | sure |
| 23:23.50 | cp15 | Because this is now the 3rd to 4th time I am explaining it, and I always requested that the person updates the documentation, but nothing happens |
| 23:24.01 | cp15 | I got a bit angry last time... |
| 23:24.27 | cp15 | When do you want to go to bed? |
| 23:24.40 | bwegh | sounds like it takes some time ... |
| 23:24.45 | bwegh | how long? |
| 23:25.14 | cp15 | Well, how much time do you have? |
| 23:25.29 | cp15 | Maybe we could start now and continue another day |
| 23:26.19 | bwegh | well i guess a need a sd-card reader / writer - do i? |
| 23:26.28 | cp15 | Not necessarily |
| 23:26.43 | cp15 | Since you have already booted linux, you can rewrite the sd card from it |
| 23:26.54 | bwegh | then ill have about 3hours |
| 23:27.07 | cp15 | Ok, a bit too much for me :-) |
| 23:27.16 | bwegh | hehe |
| 23:27.19 | cp15 | But lets see that we get at least gpe booted |
| 23:27.34 | cp15 | You are prepared to loose the data on your sd card? |
| 23:27.41 | bwegh | yes |
| 23:28.04 | bwegh | only two partitions on it - 1 30 mb vfat and 2 900mb ext3 |
| 23:28.17 | cp15 | Ah, do you have already formatted it? |
| 23:28.38 | bwegh | as i said i did the simple steps on the handhelds page |
| 23:28.53 | bwegh | i am currently loged into my ba using ssh usbnet |
| 23:28.56 | cp15 | I will check... Just a moment |
| 23:30.36 | cp15 | Ok, please log the channel or take a look at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23htc-blueangel/ later so you can update the documentation and maybe write a script which makes the live easier |
| 23:31.09 | bwegh | ok |
| 23:32.06 | cp15 | Mount the first partition: mount /dev/mmc/blk0/part1 /boot |
| 23:32.21 | cp15 | You get a error message from the mount, ignore it |
| 23:32.43 | cp15 | Something about a corrupted free list |
| 23:32.54 | cp15 | mkdir /boot/linux |
| 23:33.13 | bwegh | no such file or dir |
| 23:33.50 | cp15 | Ah... Sorry... You have to mkdir /boot first |
| 23:34.09 | bwegh | no /boot is there |
| 23:34.28 | cp15 | Ok, now I know... I forgot to tell you to load the drivers |
| 23:34.45 | cp15 | modprobe asic3_mmc |
| 23:34.51 | cp15 | modprobe mmc_block |
| 23:35.02 | bwegh | thats it! |
| 23:35.04 | cp15 | then do a cat /proc/partitions to see if the partitions are there |
| 23:35.32 | bwegh | "double free or corruption" |
| 23:35.45 | cp15 | Ok, thats the "normal" mount error message |
| 23:35.50 | bwegh | ok |
| 23:36.31 | cp15 | Then download zimage-4 and initrd-4 and haret.exe from the handhelds wiki and copy them into /boot/linux |
| 23:37.56 | cp15 | Also download http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.3/20050814/gpe-image-h3900-20050814160204.rootfs.tar.bz2 and copy it into /boot/linux |
| 23:38.58 | bwegh | where are the zimage and the initrd? |
| 23:39.27 | cp15 | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
| 23:39.59 | cp15 | About in the middle: "Here are the current kernel and initrds" |
| 23:40.20 | cp15 | I can't give you a link since handhelds.org requires a valid referer |
| 23:40.50 | bwegh | yes |
| 23:40.57 | bwegh | they are already on my ba |
| 23:41.36 | bwegh | and they are running right now, connected with my laptop using usbnet |
| 23:42.02 | cp15 | Ok, copy them (together with haret) to /boot/linux/ |
| 23:42.10 | bwegh | already done |
| 23:42.18 | bwegh | startup.txt is there. too |
| 23:42.27 | bwegh | gpe-image is extracted to part2 |
| 23:42.41 | cp15 | The gpe-image from handhelds.org? |
| 23:42.46 | bwegh | yes |
| 23:43.03 | bwegh | well the one from the blueangel wiki-page |
| 23:43.31 | cp15 | It doesn't work too well, remove it from the second partition and use the one I mentioned a few lines above |
| 23:43.38 | bwegh | ok |
| 23:44.03 | cp15 | Unfortunately the tar in the initrd is buggy and doesn't work to extract the image |
| 23:44.03 | bwegh | where should the second part be mounted |
| 23:44.12 | cp15 | mount it under /mnt |
| 23:44.31 | bwegh | there are already /mnt/hda and /mnt/ramfs |
| 23:44.47 | cp15 | Just overmount them |
| 23:46.58 | cp15 | You have to extract the busybox from the rootfs.tar.gz on your host to be able to unpack the image |
| 23:47.45 | cp15 | do a tar -jxvf gpe-image-h3900-20050814160204.rootfs.tar.bz2 ./bin/busybox on your host and then scp ./bin/busybox root@192.168.0.206:/bin/busybox.new |
| 23:48.01 | cp15 | Then on the ba a mv /bin/busybox.new /bin/busybox |
| 23:48.23 | bwegh | ok |
| 23:48.31 | cp15 | If you have questions just ask |
| 23:49.00 | cp15 | How far are you? |
| 23:53.22 | bwegh | copied the gpe-image to the ba, just extracted the busybox and copy it now |
| 23:54.04 | cp15 | Ok, then do a cd /mnt and a tar -jxpvf /mnt/boot/gpe-image-h3900-20050814160204.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 23:54.27 | cp15 | Ah, sorry |
| 23:54.35 | cp15 | Ok, then do a cd /mnt and a tar -jxpvf /boot/linux/gpe-image-h3900-20050814160204.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 23:55.36 | bwegh | well i copied the image to mount |
| 23:55.43 | bwegh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.55 | bwegh | so your first was right ;) |
| 23:56.19 | cp15 | Does the tar work? |
| 23:57.31 | bwegh | yes |
| 23:57.45 | bwegh | where should the files be? at the second or the first partition? |
| 23:58.05 | cp15 | The files from the gpe image should go to the second partition |
| 23:58.16 | cp15 | Hopefully currently mounted under /mnt |
| 23:58.26 | bwegh | yes, it is |
| 23:58.36 | cp15 | Tell me when it is done |
| 23:58.46 | bwegh | i will |
| 23:59.41 | bwegh | unpacking frambuffer x right now |