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| 10:12.09 | cp15 | Good morning |
| 10:24.05 | Funklord | good morning =)) |
| 10:24.10 | bhima | morning. |
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| 10:48.47 | magnet | hello. |
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| 15:17.00 | rob_w | hi all ,, i dont have too much time |
| 15:17.33 | rob_w | cp15, would you send me by mail your ssh dsa public key in order to create your cvs account for the hh,org cvs |
| 15:17.46 | rob_w | cp15, mail that to robert@linuxdevelopment.de |
| 15:20.33 | magnet | hi |
| 15:28.51 | cp15 | rob: ssh key sent |
| 15:33.54 | magnet | does someone use distcc to build oe stuff ? |
| 15:35.06 | cp15 | What is distcc? |
| 15:35.28 | magnet | it's a tool to distribute compilation over network. |
| 15:49.51 | Funklord | distcc didn't benefit me much when I used it |
| 15:50.07 | Funklord | had a lot of trouble due to it too |
| 15:50.51 | magnet | I use it with my package management tool, it works quite fine . |
| 15:51.04 | Funklord | you need to make sure everything matches on all the machine toolchains |
| 15:51.13 | Funklord | same versions etc. |
| 15:51.20 | magnet | yea that what I feared. |
| 15:51.51 | magnet | monotone is slow :( |
| 15:52.35 | Funklord | shit that's small |
| 15:52.54 | Funklord | compressed a 150mb vid into 3.4mb |
| 15:54.49 | Funklord | ok, that quality was not good |
| 15:55.00 | Funklord | oops wrong bitrate |
| 15:58.08 | rob_w | hey Funklord |
| 15:58.22 | rob_w | Funklord, got a htc device ?? |
| 16:00.14 | Funklord | yes |
| 16:00.26 | Funklord | ba |
| 16:00.36 | magnet | nice. |
| 16:01.12 | Funklord | rob_w: why? |
| 16:02.04 | rob_w | i thought i do remember you from the #gpe chan |
| 16:02.26 | Funklord | I've been in here all the time =P |
| 16:02.35 | rob_w | yeah , right |
| 16:03.05 | rob_w | cp15, is that the key from which you did send it ? so from that email ! |
| 16:03.42 | rob_w | Funklord, sorry for this , i did help at a move all day and had some beers |
| 16:05.22 | Funklord | rob_w: hehe, nice |
| 16:05.58 | cp15 | rob_w: Sorry, what is the problem with the key? |
| 16:06.23 | rob_w | i mean is that the key generate for the email account which you used to send it ... |
| 16:07.34 | cp15 | Ahmmm... It is a ssh key, not related to any email |
| 16:08.52 | rob_w | hmm , ok , i am new to this "key" thing and thought the account email on which it will be generated is .... that thing that is needed |
| 16:09.26 | rob_w | never mind i go and send it to the admin , |
| 16:09.48 | rob_w | btw suspned is now working for me , as it is not waking up on its own anymore |
| 16:10.22 | rob_w | yet that matchbox -> touchscreen bug that kills matchbox on a resume is annoying |
| 16:10.58 | cp15 | No, there is a comment field in the key (martin@pcmartin in my case), but it's content is not important. It is more a hint to which person the key belongs |
| 16:11.15 | rob_w | as i "lost" my .xsession-errors and "cant find " it any more i dont see the messages generated by that , but likely iwill try to find htat |
| 16:11.23 | rob_w | ok cool |
| 16:11.33 | cp15 | It is not matchbox which crashes, it is probably the X server |
| 16:12.03 | cp15 | At least on my setup I had problems that the X server received a SIGUSR1 which it interpreted as "switch to console" command. |
| 16:12.26 | cp15 | Unfortunately the touchscreen is not yet activated again and it crashes as a result |
| 16:12.56 | cp15 | I have to go shopping now |
| 16:13.49 | rob_w | so we need tobe quicker or more time |
| 16:15.43 | cp15 | No, the SIGUSR1 is wrong, but I don't know from where it originates |
| 16:16.40 | rob_w | ah so does the frambuffer get a SIGUSR1 |
| 16:17.53 | rob_w | i will try to see how the 3900 touchscreen is handling support , maybe the himalay one has some wrong hacks in terms or order |
| 16:22.08 | rob_w | handling suspend support i meant |
| 16:22.21 | rob_w | ok i also need to go again ,, cuall |
| 18:40.07 | magnet | is it normal that using monotone to update oe's snapshot take so long time ? |
| 18:40.21 | magnet | it has been running without progress for ~1 hour now. |
| 19:09.06 | immolo | magnet- wait another 24 hours :P |
| 19:09.21 | immolo | and that was with my 64bit laptop |
| 19:10.20 | magnet | :) |
| 19:10.31 | magnet | it's progressing a bit now. |
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| 19:31.07 | immolo | still wait until morning |
| 19:36.07 | magnet | seems over !! |
| 20:08.38 | immolo | ?? |
| 20:09.00 | immolo | you download the tar.bz2 first? |
| 20:14.19 | magnet | yep |
| 20:14.27 | immolo | ah |
| 20:14.27 | magnet | oe.tar.bz2 |
| 20:14.29 | immolo | I never :P |
| 20:14.41 | magnet | it's my first time, I'm very new to pda stuff. |
| 20:15.08 | magnet | I'm trying to compile xanadux-ba-2.6_2.6.12 . |
| 20:15.10 | immolo | doesn't matter I just decided not to |
| 20:15.29 | immolo | you need the bb file? |
| 20:15.46 | magnet | I found one in oe/packages |
| 20:16.02 | immolo | nice they added my files |
| 20:16.10 | magnet | hehe you nice you made it ! |
| 20:16.13 | immolo | is my machine config there also |
| 20:16.20 | immolo | with some help yes :P |
| 20:16.36 | magnet | there are some stuff that I misunderstand. |
| 20:16.59 | immolo | you made the build directory? |
| 20:17.08 | magnet | I installed oe, and used bitbake to launch the xanadu-ba's built. |
| 20:17.10 | magnet | yepp. |
| 20:17.21 | immolo | look in build/conf/machine |
| 20:17.26 | magnet | but I did not installed a crooss compiler. |
| 20:17.35 | immolo | you should see a blueangel.conf |
| 20:17.48 | immolo | you need a conf to build a crosscompiler |
| 20:18.10 | magnet | local.conf ? |
| 20:18.24 | immolo | inside machine |
| 20:18.39 | magnet | I don t have anything in build/conf exept local.conf |
| 20:19.23 | immolo | try the org.openembedded.*/conf/machine |
| 20:19.50 | magnet | oh I see. |
| 20:20.02 | immolo | is it there? |
| 20:20.16 | magnet | mine not. |
| 20:20.19 | magnet | I got magician one. |
| 20:20.25 | magnet | but blueangel is there. |
| 20:20.39 | immolo | great news thanks |
| 20:20.45 | immolo | shame for you though |
| 20:20.51 | magnet | why ? |
| 20:21.01 | immolo | means my files have been accepted :P |
| 20:21.12 | magnet | I mean why it's a shame for me ? |
| 20:21.30 | immolo | blueangel is different to magician? |
| 20:21.41 | magnet | in some ways. |
| 20:21.43 | magnet | err |
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| 20:22.01 | magnet | I think it's a bit different. |
| 20:22.02 | immolo | wrong x :P |
| 20:22.15 | magnet | it use pxa272 . |
| 20:23.17 | immolo | same as the newer hp ones? |
| 20:23.37 | magnet | I don't know. it's the first time i have a pda |
| 20:23.50 | magnet | I have tech chart trough |
| 20:24.04 | immolo | heh my ba is my second |
| 20:24.23 | magnet | http://www.qtek.fr/product_info.php/cPath/24/products_id/28?Qtek=1f6ddf58658cc125c8f20abb7fa82868 |
| 20:24.33 | magnet | in french, but it's just a list of component. |
| 20:24.33 | immolo | I don't count most of the other pda classed devices I own as pdas more as sub notebooks |
| 20:24.55 | magnet | umm. |
| 20:25.14 | magnet | do you run linux on all ? |
| 20:25.47 | immolo | all but the ba |
| 20:26.02 | magnet | what's wrong with linux on ba ? |
| 20:26.19 | immolo | I haven't solved a touchscreen issue |
| 20:26.37 | magnet | I see. |
| 20:26.47 | immolo | but I've currently got a small job of getting an old pc to run linux |
| 20:27.09 | immolo | but once I've done that it will be back to the ba |
| 20:27.14 | magnet | hehe. |
| 20:27.20 | magnet | which kind of pc is it ? |
| 20:27.26 | immolo | old celeron |
| 20:27.42 | magnet | should be easy. |
| 20:27.44 | immolo | it can just about run xp but vista will die |
| 20:28.10 | Funklord | xp requires a damn powerhouse, so you should be ok with linux =P |
| 20:28.12 | immolo | only issue is the guy can't use windows so I have to set linux to do everything |
| 20:28.48 | immolo | kde is too bloated and fluxbox isn't newbie proof |
| 20:28.58 | immolo | so I'm trying him on gnome |
| 20:29.14 | Funklord | kde works fine on older machines, as long as you put 128mb ram |
| 20:29.51 | immolo | after running fluxbox, kde seems slow a |
| 20:29.57 | immolo | on any machine :P |
| 20:30.38 | Funklord | you can't compare those two =P |
| 20:31.00 | immolo | how about kwin and flux :P |
| 20:31.18 | Funklord | never tried kwin |
| 20:31.26 | immolo | sure you have |
| 20:31.34 | immolo | it's what wm kde uses |
| 20:31.50 | Funklord | ah ok |
| 20:31.54 | immolo | I'm pretty sure it was anyway :P |
| 20:32.09 | immolo | like gnome uses metacity or simalr naming |
| 20:32.21 | Funklord | they are still designed for different purposes |
| 20:32.29 | immolo | I know |
| 20:32.56 | immolo | still gnome will do nicely for this job I think |
| 20:33.05 | Funklord | if you set up a menu in fluxbox neatly, shouldn't be a reason why they can't use it |
| 20:33.21 | Funklord | but they won't understand how to edit it, probably |
| 20:33.31 | immolo | I did but the other stuff just takes too long |
| 20:33.38 | immolo | like auto mounting etc |
| 20:34.17 | Funklord | I'm using a powerbook currently |
| 20:34.19 | immolo | still everything is built now anyway |
| 20:34.23 | immolo | eww :P |
| 20:34.24 | Funklord | with macosx |
| 20:34.31 | immolo | I hated osx |
| 20:34.38 | Funklord | I think it's great |
| 20:34.46 | immolo | each to there own |
| 20:35.05 | immolo | it just looked like a pretty windows to me |
| 20:35.19 | Funklord | I was gonna put linux on it, but it worked fine as it is |
| 20:35.34 | Funklord | and the hardware is awesome |
| 20:35.34 | immolo | I put gentoo on a g3 |
| 20:35.45 | immolo | the hardware is great on imacs |
| 20:35.56 | immolo | shame about losing the ppc |
| 20:36.18 | Funklord | I'm trying to figure out how to use this umts/gprs pcmcia card on the mac |
| 20:36.29 | Funklord | can't find the log files =PP |
| 20:36.33 | Funklord | syslog |
| 20:36.36 | immolo | install linux :P |
| 20:37.16 | Funklord | ah, there they are |
| 20:38.56 | Funklord | a pretty windowing environment built on a powerful *nix base |
| 20:39.09 | Funklord | what more could you ask for? |
| 20:39.17 | Funklord | free maybe =P |
| 20:39.50 | Funklord | I'm not used to *bsd unices yet |
| 20:41.37 | immolo | I didn't like bsd myself |
| 20:42.18 | immolo | but I'm happy with linux I can all that I need with it and know my machine is support well into its end of life |
| 20:42.19 | Funklord | hmm.. the logs are very noisy |
| 20:42.37 | Funklord | and not a thing about my pcmcia card |
| 20:42.55 | immolo | I find using guis easier with macs |
| 20:44.41 | Funklord | ah it's been detected as a usb dev already |
| 20:44.54 | Funklord | it's a pcmcia usb bridge |
| 20:45.22 | bhima | Cardbus, I presume? |
| 20:45.32 | Funklord | think so |
| 20:46.14 | Funklord | now.. to use ppp |
| 20:48.20 | magnet | ok I got xanadux-ba installed using bitbaker |
| 20:48.29 | magnet | now I have to install the cross compiler ? |
| 20:51.15 | immolo | the crosscompiler is a dependice of xanadux |
| 20:55.36 | magnet | umm |
| 20:55.51 | magnet | I had some trouble while installing xanadux. |
| 20:56.42 | cp15 | re |
| 20:57.51 | magnet | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (1275/2867) [44 %]NOTE: exceptions.SyntaxError:EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1) while evaluating: |
| 20:58.41 | magnet | the install continued, but at the end it tell 'ERROR: Nothing provides xanadux-ba-2.6_2.6.12' |
| 21:10.53 | cp15 | What command did you enter? |
| 21:11.28 | magnet | bitbake xanadux-ba |
| 21:11.47 | magnet | I also tried bitbatke xanadux-ba-2.6_2.6.12 |
| 21:12.12 | cp15 | Do you have already the cross compiler? |
| 21:12.33 | magnet | not yet. |
| 21:12.46 | magnet | I thinked it will be installed as dependencie or something. |
| 21:12.59 | magnet | I just followed the guide on oe.handhelds.org |
| 21:13.24 | cp15 | Try bitbake -b <path to xanadux-ba-2.6_2.6.12.bb> |
| 21:13.37 | magnet | ok. |
| 21:14.13 | magnet | oh this seems to work better. |
| 21:14.19 | magnet | it's fetching from cvs right now. |
| 21:14.37 | magnet | but it's not fetching the compiler... |
| 21:15.19 | cp15 | Do you want a complete build or just the kernel? |
| 21:15.28 | magnet | I just need the kernel now. |
| 21:15.49 | magnet | it's to try it on my magician. |
| 21:17.38 | cp15 | You have to change the framebuffer before you can test it |
| 21:17.55 | cp15 | Also you have to remove complete initialisation, since it will probably crash |
| 21:18.23 | magnet | do you have documentation on how I can do that ? |
| 21:19.59 | cp15 | Remove everything in blueangel_init |
| 21:21.43 | magnet | ok. |
| 21:21.54 | magnet | win 13 |
| 21:21.54 | cp15 | Remove everything in blueangel_map_io after iotable_init |
| 21:21.56 | magnet | er. |
| 21:22.16 | cp15 | Do not compile the other blueangel stuff |
| 21:24.33 | cp15 | Compile vsfb instead |
| 21:25.00 | magnet | it's still getting source from cvs. |
| 21:25.08 | cp15 | Takes some time |
| 21:25.25 | magnet | thanks for your help. |
| 21:25.26 | cp15 | set SCREEN_BASE in vsfb.c to your physical screen base |
| 21:26.12 | cp15 | Remove the machine_is_e330 check in vsfb_init in vsfb.c |
| 21:27.21 | cp15 | With much luck you will see something on your screen |
| 21:27.52 | magnet | I'm fighting for 4 days for this :) |
| 21:30.43 | cp15 | Are you ready to fight for 4 weeks? Most likely it won't work, and then it will get very hard. |
| 21:31.28 | magnet | I'm ready even if it need 4 month. |
| 21:31.54 | magnet | I had some troubles with patching it seems. |
| 21:32.08 | magnet | NOTE: package xanadux-ba-2.6-2.6.12-r0: task do_patch: started |
| 21:32.08 | magnet | ERROR: function do_patchcleancmd failed |
| 21:32.08 | magnet | ERROR: log data follows (/home/magnet/files/oe/build/tmp/work/xanadux-ba-2.6-2.6.12-r0/temp/log.do_patchcleancmd.3770) |
| 21:32.11 | magnet | | /home/magnet/files/oe/build/tmp/work/xanadux-ba-2.6-2.6.12-r0/temp/run.do_patchcleancmd.3770: line 444: syntax error near unexpected token `'INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP',' |
| 21:32.14 | magnet | NOTE: Task failed: /home/magnet/files/oe/build/tmp/work/xanadux-ba-2.6-2.6.12-r0/temp/log.do_patchcleancmd.3770 |
| 21:32.17 | magnet | NOTE: package xanadux-ba-2.6-2.6.12-r0: task do_patch: failed |
| 21:35.26 | magnet | oh |
| 21:36.33 | cp15 | Show me /home/magnet/files/oe/build/tmp/work/xanadux-ba-2.6-2.6.12-r0/temp/log.do_patchcleancmd.3770 around line 444 |
| 21:37.18 | magnet | ok |
| 21:38.08 | cp15 | Stop |
| 21:38.24 | cp15 | I need run.do_patchcleancmd |
| 21:38.40 | magnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.44 | magnet | yep |
| 21:38.56 | magnet | that from the good file |
| 21:39.20 | magnet | this var can be define in local.conf, but it has nof effect. |
| 21:41.09 | immolo | magnet- do you want the lastest xanadux bb? |
| 21:41.19 | immolo | might make things easier later |
| 21:41.30 | magnet | bb ? |
| 21:41.36 | immolo | bitbake file |
| 21:41.43 | magnet | oh the bitbake file. yea. |
| 21:41.49 | immolo | two secs |
| 21:42.26 | magnet | my problem can come from the bb file I use ? |
| 21:43.38 | immolo | no, but I'm pretty sure you will run into issues with that one |
| 21:43.50 | immolo | I need to update the one I sent |
| 21:46.40 | cp15 | It mixed python code with shell code... Hmmm |
| 21:51.18 | cp15 | immolo: How far did you get with the image? |
| 21:53.30 | immolo | cp15- I haven't had time this week, had a small linux job to do |
| 21:54.17 | immolo | as of tonight or tomorrow I should be free to rebuild with some stuff |
| 21:54.48 | immolo | did you or rob find out how the h3900 images deals with ts? |
| 21:57.28 | cp15 | Didn't look at it. What is the problem? |
| 21:58.19 | immolo | same issue Xfbdev segfaults |
| 21:58.28 | cp15 | Have you made a strace? |
| 21:58.41 | immolo | so I'm going to revert back to a stage where I had it kinda working |
| 21:59.01 | immolo | no, I suppose I could quick though |
| 21:59.23 | cp15 | It would be quite useful I think |
| 21:59.31 | immolo | give me a few mins to get it working |
| 22:00.29 | immolo | cp15- ah, I can't do it now as I have to finish this other job first |
| 22:00.39 | immolo | I'll have it ready for you tomorrow |
| 22:04.12 | magnet | ok I fixed the problem. |
| 22:04.30 | magnet | now it seems I miss arm-gcc to success installing kernel source. |
| 22:04.54 | immolo | what machine config are you using? |
| 22:05.58 | magnet | pentium M 1.6g / 512mb . |
| 22:06.02 | immolo | I mean the machine config used by oe |
| 22:06.32 | cp15 | immolo: Ok |
| 22:07.07 | magnet | oh sorry |
| 22:07.14 | immolo | I wish I never tried my dev machine into a media centre as ever since I have I've needed it |
| 22:07.22 | immolo | tried = turned |
| 22:07.37 | magnet | I choosed target 'arm'. |
| 22:08.05 | magnet | as target architecture. |
| 22:08.50 | immolo | I think you miss understand, there is a varible in your local.conf that tells it what machine you are building for, this in turn tells oe some default settings like what kernel to use and what cross complier is needed |
| 22:09.31 | magnet | oh |
| 22:09.38 | magnet | you mean MACHINE setting ? |
| 22:09.49 | magnet | I did not set it. |
| 22:10.21 | magnet | I did not find mine in the conf directory.( I have magician ) |
| 22:12.22 | immolo | you need to change some settings in one |
| 22:13.16 | immolo | as far as I can see but cp15 will point out if I'm wrong you need a hx2700 based config with some of the blueangel settings like kernel and modules it needs |
| 22:14.58 | magnet | so I take blueangel file ? |
| 22:15.49 | cp15 | I think you can take the blueangel file, they are probably compatible enough |
| 22:16.25 | magnet | ok. |
| 22:16.25 | immolo | cp15- different cpus though? |
| 22:16.34 | immolo | oh wait I did optimize |
| 22:16.34 | magnet | mine is pxa272 |
| 22:16.41 | immolo | did = didn't |
| 22:16.56 | immolo | yeah the blueangel shoulld be fine |
| 22:17.06 | magnet | ok good. |
| 22:18.01 | immolo | anyway time for me to fix some other problems |
| 22:18.08 | immolo | see you all in awhile |
| 22:18.11 | magnet | cya. |
| 22:21.35 | magnet | now I'll modify blue angel stuff. |
| 22:44.50 | cp15 | I will go to bed now |
| 22:44.53 | cp15 | Good night |
| 22:45.22 | magnet | night. |