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| 12:55.11 | ferrett1968 | hello! |
| 12:55.30 | ferrett1968 | can anyone help me to install familiar on BA? |
| 12:55.53 | rob_w-cgi | hi |
| 12:56.16 | rob_w-cgi | well "installing " is still too much of a term in that |
| 12:56.35 | ferrett1968 | yes |
| 12:56.38 | ferrett1968 | however |
| 12:56.45 | ferrett1968 | i had a talk |
| 12:56.48 | rob_w-cgi | we can boot the kernel via haret and then pivot to the sdcard which holds a gpe image fe |
| 12:56.49 | ferrett1968 | with cp15 |
| 12:56.53 | ferrett1968 | who told me |
| 12:56.59 | ferrett1968 | basilar things to do |
| 12:57.07 | rob_w-cgi | ok good |
| 12:57.14 | ferrett1968 | i've just been able to see the login mask of GPE |
| 12:57.17 | ferrett1968 | but |
| 12:57.25 | ferrett1968 | touckscreen doen't work |
| 12:57.38 | ferrett1968 | and nor usbnet |
| 12:57.44 | rob_w-cgi | what files did you use as kernel and initrd ? |
| 12:57.59 | ferrett1968 | may you just wait a sec |
| 12:58.04 | rob_w-cgi | sure |
| 12:58.08 | ferrett1968 | just entered home from work |
| 12:58.15 | ferrett1968 | i have to check th BA |
| 12:59.08 | ferrett1968 | well |
| 12:59.17 | ferrett1968 | i followed what cp15 told me |
| 12:59.35 | ferrett1968 | i copied the files present on handhelds |
| 12:59.43 | rob_w-cgi | ok good |
| 12:59.48 | ferrett1968 | renamed startup.txt in default.txt |
| 13:00.01 | ferrett1968 | and it works for usbnet connection |
| 13:00.16 | rob_w-cgi | that is good , so you can login to the ba |
| 13:00.21 | ferrett1968 | modprobe asic3_mmc |
| 13:00.31 | ferrett1968 | modprobe block_mmc |
| 13:01.00 | rob_w-cgi | ok do you have a /dev/input/event0 device |
| 13:01.04 | ferrett1968 | then after loading the boot files in ramdisk |
| 13:01.13 | ferrett1968 | no |
| 13:01.17 | ferrett1968 | what is it? |
| 13:01.23 | rob_w-cgi | touchscreen |
| 13:01.35 | ferrett1968 | no i don't think |
| 13:01.36 | rob_w-cgi | ok try modprobe himalaya_ts |
| 13:01.49 | rob_w-cgi | and modprobe evdev |
| 13:01.49 | ferrett1968 | can we do it together? |
| 13:02.05 | rob_w-cgi | well iam married ?!?! |
| 13:02.24 | ferrett1968 | i'm too but my wife isn't gealous ;-) |
| 13:02.29 | ferrett1968 | :-) |
| 13:02.29 | rob_w-cgi | oops |
| 13:02.34 | ferrett1968 | ok ok |
| 13:02.36 | rob_w-cgi | sure go on |
| 13:02.43 | ferrett1968 | could you please assist me |
| 13:02.52 | rob_w-cgi | sure , sweety |
| 13:02.55 | rob_w-cgi | :-) |
| 13:03.06 | ferrett1968 | :-) |
| 13:03.17 | rob_w-cgi | so are you currently connected to the usb ba ? |
| 13:03.32 | ferrett1968 | well, honey, let me do it from the beginning and i'll write you anything |
| 13:03.40 | ferrett1968 | no yet |
| 13:03.51 | ferrett1968 | just a sec |
| 13:03.59 | rob_w-cgi | ok himalaya_ts and evdev are important for the touchscreen |
| 13:04.09 | ferrett1968 | becaouse i wrote boot_mmc=y |
| 13:04.11 | rob_w-cgi | sure .. i take some phone calls but i stay with you |
| 13:04.19 | ferrett1968 | just a sec and many thanks |
| 13:04.42 | ferrett1968 | ok ok |
| 13:04.45 | rob_w-cgi | ur welcome |
| 13:06.36 | ferrett1968 | an idea |
| 13:07.05 | ferrett1968 | may i send you the instruction from cp15 so you can check what's missing? |
| 13:07.27 | rob_w-cgi | i cannot recieve currently |
| 13:07.41 | rob_w-cgi | get usb connection then we can go on |
| 13:08.03 | ferrett1968 | i'll give you the link to download, it's a txt file (the chat between me and cp15) |
| 13:10.18 | rob_w-cgi | well ok |
| 13:12.17 | ferrett1968 | http://rapidshare.de/files/6737442/installa_familiar_su_Blue_Angel.txt.html |
| 13:12.32 | ferrett1968 | tell me when you have done i'll remove it |
| 13:13.20 | rob_w-cgi | ok got it |
| 13:13.25 | rob_w-cgi | let me check it |
| 13:13.28 | ferrett1968 | ok |
| 13:21.34 | rob_w-cgi | hang on a bit |
| 13:21.51 | ferrett1968 | i find problems when i try update-modules |
| 13:25.00 | rob_w-cgi | which problems |
| 13:25.33 | ferrett1968 | i find problems when i try update-modules |
| 13:25.55 | ferrett1968 | maybe i missed something |
| 13:26.06 | rob_w-cgi | what errors do you read ? |
| 13:26.24 | ferrett1968 | well ... |
| 13:26.38 | ferrett1968 | maybe i do something wrong with some sequence |
| 13:26.52 | ferrett1968 | after having exloded the image |
| 13:27.00 | ferrett1968 | i took in handhelds |
| 13:27.03 | ferrett1968 | the gpe one |
| 13:27.22 | ferrett1968 | i connect in usbnet |
| 13:27.22 | rob_w-cgi | ok lets go step by step |
| 13:27.22 | ferrett1968 | then |
| 13:27.25 | ferrett1968 | ok ok |
| 13:27.31 | ferrett1968 | first i connect |
| 13:27.37 | rob_w-cgi | ok go on , you login , right! |
| 13:27.43 | ferrett1968 | than, after coping the boot files |
| 13:27.43 | rob_w-cgi | btw are you german ? |
| 13:27.49 | ferrett1968 | i partition the card in 2 |
| 13:27.55 | ferrett1968 | no, italian |
| 13:28.02 | rob_w-cgi | ok never mind |
| 13:28.08 | ferrett1968 | and i have to apologise for my english |
| 13:28.11 | ferrett1968 | ;-) |
| 13:28.16 | ferrett1968 | why? |
| 13:28.21 | rob_w-cgi | i just guessed as the link was a de link |
| 13:28.36 | ferrett1968 | yes but it's famous :-) |
| 13:28.52 | ferrett1968 | however |
| 13:28.54 | rob_w-cgi | aha , good then that i also know it now |
| 13:28.56 | rob_w-cgi | right |
| 13:29.11 | ferrett1968 | after exploited the image |
| 13:29.24 | rob_w-cgi | ok yes |
| 13:29.45 | ferrett1968 | (it was in a directory so i had to explode it and re-tar the content of the directory) |
| 13:29.55 | ferrett1968 | i rebooted the BA |
| 13:30.02 | ferrett1968 | i connected by usbnet |
| 13:30.08 | ferrett1968 | and i |
| 13:30.29 | ferrett1968 | echo g_ether > etc/modutils/g_ether |
| 13:30.40 | ferrett1968 | like wrote in the instructions |
| 13:30.47 | rob_w-cgi | yep , good |
| 13:30.51 | ferrett1968 | chroot /mnt |
| 13:31.05 | ferrett1968 | update-modules |
| 13:31.15 | ferrett1968 | but it seems not to work |
| 13:31.42 | ferrett1968 | another question |
| 13:31.44 | rob_w-cgi | is /mnt your path to the partition which holds gpe ? |
| 13:31.56 | ferrett1968 | yes |
| 13:32.01 | ferrett1968 | another question |
| 13:32.06 | rob_w-cgi | ok go on |
| 13:32.08 | ferrett1968 | as i'm a newby |
| 13:32.11 | ferrett1968 | in linux |
| 13:32.37 | ferrett1968 | i have an adapter for sd-mmc-cf and other mediacards |
| 13:32.53 | ferrett1968 | where the hell is the mount point? :-) |
| 13:33.02 | ferrett1968 | i can't find it |
| 13:33.23 | rob_w-cgi | how is the adapter connected to your host pc ? usb ? |
| 13:33.43 | ferrett1968 | yes |
| 13:33.47 | ferrett1968 | this is dmesg |
| 13:33.51 | ferrett1968 | usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 |
| 13:33.52 | ferrett1968 | uba: device 6 capacity nsec 0 bsize 512 |
| 13:34.06 | ferrett1968 | it's empty now |
| 13:34.17 | rob_w-cgi | ahm well yet you should see the devices .. |
| 13:34.30 | rob_w-cgi | do you have usb_storage loaded `? |
| 13:34.33 | ferrett1968 | how? |
| 13:34.39 | ferrett1968 | where? |
| 13:34.50 | ferrett1968 | modprobe? |
| 13:35.03 | rob_w-cgi | yep modprobe usb_storage |
| 13:35.28 | ferrett1968 | done |
| 13:35.52 | rob_w-cgi | cat /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 13:35.59 | ferrett1968 | ok |
| 13:36.24 | ferrett1968 | it's huge |
| 13:36.33 | rob_w-cgi | good sign |
| 13:36.38 | rob_w-cgi | show me something of it |
| 13:36.38 | ferrett1968 | :-) |
| 13:36.42 | ferrett1968 | ok |
| 13:36.52 | rob_w-cgi | btw what linux distribution ? |
| 13:37.01 | ferrett1968 | debian on knoppix |
| 13:37.06 | ferrett1968 | T: Bus=05 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=480 MxCh= 8 |
| 13:37.06 | ferrett1968 | B: Alloc= 0/800 us ( 0%), #Int= 1, #Iso= 0 |
| 13:37.06 | ferrett1968 | D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=01 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 |
| 13:37.06 | ferrett1968 | P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06 |
| 13:37.06 | ferrett1968 | S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.11 ehci_hcd |
| 13:37.07 | ferrett1968 | S: Product=Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller |
| 13:37.09 | ferrett1968 | S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1d.7 |
| 13:37.11 | ferrett1968 | C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA |
| 13:37.15 | ferrett1968 | I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub |
| 13:37.17 | ferrett1968 | E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=256ms |
| 13:37.19 | ferrett1968 | T: Bus=05 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 |
| 13:37.21 | ferrett1968 | D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 |
| 13:37.23 | ferrett1968 | P: Vendor=04b4 ProdID=6830 Rev= 0.01 |
| 13:37.25 | ferrett1968 | S: Manufacturer=Cypress Semiconductor |
| 13:37.31 | ferrett1968 | S: Product=USB2.0 Storage Device |
| 13:37.33 | ferrett1968 | S: SerialNumber=DEF109DBB934 |
| 13:37.35 | ferrett1968 | C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA |
| 13:37.37 | ferrett1968 | I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=ub |
| 13:37.39 | ferrett1968 | E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms |
| 13:37.41 | ferrett1968 | E: Ad=88(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms |
| 13:37.45 | ferrett1968 | T: Bus=05 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=02 Dev#= 3 Spd=480 MxCh= 4 |
| 13:37.47 | ferrett1968 | D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=01 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 |
| 13:37.49 | ferrett1968 | P: Vendor=0409 ProdID=0058 Rev= 1.00 |
| 13:37.51 | ferrett1968 | S: Manufacturer=NEC Corporation |
| 13:37.53 | ferrett1968 | S: Product=USB2.0 Hub Controller |
| 13:37.55 | ferrett1968 | C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr=100mA |
| 13:37.57 | ferrett1968 | I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub |
| 13:37.59 | ferrett1968 | E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=256ms |
| 13:38.01 | ferrett1968 | T: Bus=05 Lev=02 Prnt=03 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 5 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 |
| 13:38.03 | ferrett1968 | D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=16 #Cfgs= 1 |
| 13:38.05 | ferrett1968 | P: Vendor=0bb4 ProdID=0a02 Rev= 0.00 |
| 13:38.07 | ferrett1968 | C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 2mA |
| 13:38.09 | ferrett1968 | I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=ipaq |
| 13:38.11 | ferrett1968 | E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms |
| 13:38.15 | ferrett1968 | E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms |
| 13:38.17 | ferrett1968 | T: Bus=04 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 |
| 13:38.19 | ferrett1968 | B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 |
| 13:38.21 | ferrett1968 | D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 |
| 13:38.23 | ferrett1968 | P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06 |
| 13:38.25 | ferrett1968 | S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.11 uhci_hcd |
| 13:38.31 | ferrett1968 | S: Product=Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 |
| 13:38.33 | ferrett1968 | S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1d.3 |
| 13:38.35 | ferrett1968 | that's |
| 13:38.47 | ferrett1968 | i forgot to tell you |
| 13:38.47 | rob_w-cgi | hmm |
| 13:38.55 | ferrett1968 | i have a usb disc too |
| 13:39.01 | ferrett1968 | with 2 partitions |
| 13:39.05 | rob_w-cgi | ah that is the cypress on |
| 13:39.20 | ferrett1968 | cypress? |
| 13:39.25 | ferrett1968 | what is? |
| 13:39.27 | rob_w-cgi | Manufacturer=Cypress Semiconductor |
| 13:39.42 | rob_w-cgi | Product=USB2.0 Storage Device |
| 13:39.42 | ferrett1968 | does it mean a usb disc? |
| 13:39.46 | ferrett1968 | ok |
| 13:40.01 | rob_w-cgi | but i dont see the usb -> cf-mmc-sd thingi |
| 13:40.07 | ferrett1968 | the 2 partitions of the disc are : ubb5 ubb6 |
| 13:40.27 | ferrett1968 | if i disconnect the dmesg is: |
| 13:40.44 | ferrett1968 | usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 7 |
| 13:41.02 | ferrett1968 | if i connect the adapter |
| 13:41.13 | ferrett1968 | usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8 |
| 13:41.13 | ferrett1968 | uba: device 8 capacity nsec 0 bsize 512 |
| 13:42.06 | rob_w-cgi | brb |
| 13:42.13 | ferrett1968 | what? |
| 13:52.18 | ferrett1968 | are you there? |
| 14:03.57 | rob_w-cgi | i need to work sorry , i be back soon |
| 14:04.02 | ferrett1968 | ok |
| 14:04.03 | ferrett1968 | bye |
| 14:04.09 | ferrett1968 | i'll wait |
| 14:22.01 | ferrett1968 | hey rob, if you can wait i'll disconnect and reconnect in few minutes |
| 14:22.35 | ferrett1968 | just upload a familiar image on an h5550 to use it as adapter for the card we're talking about |
| 14:29.24 | ferrett1968 | ok done |
| 14:29.27 | ferrett1968 | here i am |
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| 16:22.55 | cp15 | Good morning |
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| 17:10.49 | rob_w | hey all |
| 17:12.55 | JuNuKN | hey rob_w ... and cp15, - back from hungary now ! More time consuming than thought!? |
| 17:16.46 | ferrett1968 | hello cp15! |
| 17:16.49 | ferrett1968 | welcome back |
| 17:17.27 | rob_w | i did compile new kernel and gomunicator and test them today and tomorrow |
| 17:18.51 | ferrett1968 | cp15: i tryed to do all you said me about the BA but i found some problems |
| 17:19.48 | immolo | hey cp15, you know your changes to gomunicator won't compile |
| 17:21.01 | rob_w | immolo, it did compile for me today ??! |
| 17:21.53 | ferrett1968 | rob_w did you see something for my linux on BA? |
| 17:22.13 | rob_w | ferrett1968, so does your ts still not work ? |
| 17:22.23 | rob_w | did you receive the event0 device ? |
| 17:22.41 | ferrett1968 | yes, until you don't tell me how to do it ;-) |
| 17:22.46 | ferrett1968 | no |
| 17:22.53 | immolo | rob_w hmm wouldn't two days ago |
| 17:23.03 | ferrett1968 | just waiting for your suggest |
| 17:23.06 | rob_w | i did . |
| 17:23.26 | rob_w | modprobe evdev and modprobe himalaya_ts |
| 17:23.26 | ferrett1968 | i saw you exiting the chat |
| 17:23.30 | ferrett1968 | may you please repeat me? |
| 17:23.33 | rob_w | that will bring /dev/input/event0 |
| 17:23.46 | rob_w | sorry maybe i didnt tell you |
| 17:23.50 | ferrett1968 | okok |
| 17:23.58 | ferrett1968 | just tell me |
| 17:24.06 | ferrett1968 | when do i have to do it? |
| 17:24.18 | ferrett1968 | and witch is the problem for |
| 17:24.27 | ferrett1968 | the update-modules? |
| 17:24.49 | rob_w | for update-modules you need to tell me the exact errormessage ! |
| 17:25.03 | rob_w | well you need to load those before gpe-dm is started |
| 17:25.22 | ferrett1968 | when i'm in the chrooted /mnt |
| 17:25.24 | rob_w | normally your initrd should have done that already |
| 17:25.33 | rob_w | ferrett1968, yes fe |
| 17:26.00 | rob_w | well for the fun of it , login into your ba via usb and do it by hand and check if you recieve a /dev/input/event0 |
| 17:26.18 | ferrett1968 | the problem is that: |
| 17:26.31 | ferrett1968 | when i add the "boot_mmc=y" |
| 17:26.32 | rob_w | immolo, but there is no change in that period ! |
| 17:26.47 | ferrett1968 | it just start with the view of login gpe |
| 17:27.03 | ferrett1968 | but i doesn't allow me a usbnet |
| 17:27.30 | rob_w | wel usbnet should be loaded in the background everytime .. so by the time you see that you should be able to ssh into the ba |
| 17:27.40 | ferrett1968 | yes |
| 17:27.58 | ferrett1968 | theproblems begin with update-modules |
| 17:28.27 | ferrett1968 | it says ir can't find af_packet |
| 17:28.36 | ferrett1968 | but it's in the directory |
| 17:28.46 | ferrett1968 | dir /etc/modutils |
| 17:28.57 | ferrett1968 | dir /mnt/etc/modutils |
| 17:29.04 | rob_w | ferrett1968, hmm that is fine , it might be missing in /lib/modules |
| 17:29.05 | ferrett1968 | but i chrooted /mnt |
| 17:29.11 | rob_w | but i dont know that we need it now ! |
| 17:29.13 | ferrett1968 | so? |
| 17:29.47 | rob_w | ferrett1968, the thing is you need to copy your initrd /lib/modules/* to the /mnt/lib/modules |
| 17:30.15 | rob_w | so after chrooting you still can load the needed modules for the used kernel ( which is not the stock gpe kernel in the image ) |
| 17:30.33 | ferrett1968 | the initrd /lib/modules/* where are they? |
| 17:30.48 | rob_w | ferrett1968, so ignore this for now and follow me by ssh ing into the ba and debugging your ts screen |
| 17:31.05 | ferrett1968 | ok |
| 17:31.06 | rob_w | before you chroot they are in /lib/modules |
| 17:31.07 | ferrett1968 | tell me |
| 17:31.21 | rob_w | they should be /lib/modules/2-6-12-hh2 |
| 17:31.46 | rob_w | ferrett1968, sweety dont get angry ;-) |
| 17:32.13 | ferrett1968 | i'll never be with you honey |
| 17:32.15 | ferrett1968 | :-) |
| 17:32.32 | rob_w | ferrett1968, dont worry i will give it to you |
| 17:32.48 | rob_w | ~hug ferrett1968 |
| 17:32.51 | apt | ACTION hugs ferrett1968 |
| 17:34.03 | rob_w | 230 MB at 10k/s - how does that take =`? |
| 17:35.08 | ferrett1968 | sorry for my misunderstanding |
| 17:35.11 | ferrett1968 | but |
| 17:35.19 | rob_w | never mind ,, |
| 17:35.24 | ferrett1968 | when i exploded the gpe.image.tar |
| 17:35.31 | rob_w | wait for your excuses until i dont get something |
| 17:35.38 | ferrett1968 | in the 2nd partition of the sd |
| 17:36.16 | ferrett1968 | and i connect in usbnet |
| 17:36.23 | ferrett1968 | what should i do? |
| 17:36.32 | ferrett1968 | before chroot /mnt? |
| 17:37.43 | ferrett1968 | i'm sorry and i'm a newby, i know i am annoiyng everibody but please help me! |
| 17:39.50 | ferrett1968 | are you waiting for my excuses? |
| 17:43.24 | rob_w | ferrett1968, no you are not |
| 17:43.36 | rob_w | thats why this channel here lives |
| 17:43.42 | ferrett1968 | ok |
| 17:43.45 | rob_w | ok |
| 17:44.04 | ferrett1968 | may you explain me why the color turns red and blue? |
| 17:44.10 | rob_w | ferrett1968, did you also watch Adriano Celentano show ?? |
| 17:44.28 | ferrett1968 | no |
| 17:44.33 | ferrett1968 | i don't like it |
| 17:44.33 | rob_w | why do you always dcc me ferrett1968 ? |
| 17:44.56 | ferrett1968 | trying to talk to you without bother the others |
| 17:45.00 | rob_w | it was in our newspapers .. berlusconi also doesnt like it , or ? |
| 17:45.17 | ferrett1968 | i really suppose he doesn't like him |
| 17:45.32 | ferrett1968 | Celentano is so direct to appear unpolite |
| 17:45.33 | rob_w | then do a /msg rob_w in your message box |
| 17:45.49 | rob_w | ferrett1968, i see |
| 17:46.20 | rob_w | must be because of he is the only one doing things like that .. when it gets common they are not so direct anymore |
| 17:46.31 | rob_w | ya know in germany it is the other way round |
| 17:46.54 | rob_w | the government people are soo foolish that you wish they would be more strict |
| 17:47.14 | rob_w | and so many comedians make fun of them , ,, |
| 17:47.15 | ferrett1968 | i see |
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| 18:12.52 | _bob_w | ferrett1968, yes you need to enter irc.freenode.com ... your nick and ... #htc-blueangel |
| 18:13.36 | ferrett1968 | ok |
| 18:13.48 | ferrett1968 | will you be here tomorrow morning? |
| 18:13.59 | _bob_w | yes most probably |
| 18:14.15 | ferrett1968 | the best thanks you may ever immagine!!!!!!! |
| 18:14.31 | ferrett1968 | thanks to you and to cp15 for the last time! |
| 18:14.44 | ferrett1968 | see you tomorrow |
| 18:14.52 | ferrett1968 | have a good evening |
| 18:15.12 | ferrett1968 | good bye |
| 18:16.16 | ferrett1968 | i have to go |
| 18:16.17 | ferrett1968 | bye |
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| 19:48.36 | Funklord | I just ordered a umts/gprs pcmcia card with a subscription |
| 19:48.39 | Funklord | 1Gb traffic for 20eur a month =)) |
| 20:21.34 | cp15 | So, back from watching DVD |
| 20:36.17 | Funklord | hi cp15 =) |
| 20:39.19 | cp15 | Hi Funklord |
| 20:45.12 | Funklord | cp15: how's things? |
| 20:45.22 | Funklord | I heard you were away somewhere |
| 20:48.05 | cp15 | I was in hungary for a few days and got a cold there... |
| 20:48.12 | cp15 | So I stayed in bed most time |
| 21:00.47 | Funklord | damn.. bummer |
| 21:00.59 | Funklord | what were you doing in hungary? |
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| 21:20.58 | JuNuKN | Hello again rob_w. Some new stati? I am not familar with IRC yet ... ist there some history available to read the discussions of the past? How tp access it? |
| 21:34.26 | cp15 | JuNuKN: Usually there is no history on irc. But maybe there is someone around who logs all traffic and can help you out |
| 21:37.13 | JuNuKN | Thanks for the info. So a I have to see probably in the wiki or on family.org pages. |
| 21:37.24 | JuNuKN | By the way, - welcome back! |
| 21:38.09 | cp15 | Usually the information on IRC isn't that important |
| 21:40.05 | Funklord | JuNuKN: htc.gnulinux.biz/irclog.txt |
| 21:41.04 | cp15 | Wow, nearly live |
| 21:41.30 | Funklord | it's not live, I made a copy |
| 21:41.36 | JuNuKN | You forgot, I try to learn/see how porting will be done ;o) By the way, I decided to buy a himalaya .... will be shipped within the next week. So porting may be a bit more possible! ? |
| 21:41.38 | cp15 | Ah, ok :-) |
| 21:41.45 | Funklord | don't wanna mess up permissions |
| 21:43.04 | cp15 | At least the himalaya is much more similar to the blueangel than the wallaby |
| 21:43.41 | cp15 | How much was the himalaya? |
| 21:44.54 | Funklord | I'm taking in my BA for repairs again tomorrow |
| 21:44.56 | JuNuKN | Thanks Funklord, Nice site, but still empty .... |
| 21:45.27 | JuNuKN | The himalaya was 160 Euro |
| 21:45.33 | Funklord | immolo requested a forum.. dunno if anyone will find it useful |
| 21:47.17 | JuNuKN | I think the idea of your site may be OK, especially for possibility to structure for current needs. XDA-Developers-Forum is a little bit to unflexible! |
| 21:50.44 | JuNuKN | And thanks for the log! I hope you will continue the recordings ... I will read it tomorrow! |
| 21:51.09 | JuNuKN | Any news about Linux on BA in compact form? |
| 21:52.22 | JuNuKN | Any ideas, how near the Himalaya Hardware is to the BA? Should it work with the same Stuff / or at least research status as BA ? |
| 21:52.54 | Funklord | I have no idea |
| 21:53.03 | Funklord | never used one |
| 21:53.17 | Funklord | but it's well documented on xda-dev |
| 21:54.19 | cp15 | JuNuKN: Watch out for llang1, he made the current ba src to run on himalaya |
| 21:55.17 | Funklord | cp15: do you think we'll need a forum? |
| 21:55.57 | Funklord | htc.gnulinux.biz is the one I put for immolo |
| 21:55.58 | JuNuKN | I thougth, it is a good idea to buy one, becuase of 128MB RAM, 400MHz CPU, Bluetooth, SDIO-Interface, Possibility for CF-Slot with Backpack. ... and never the less, that the Hardware is more likely as the BA .... so the hope dies later, that tere may be sometimes a Linux-Port available! |
| 21:56.59 | cp15 | There is already a linux port, but it isn't as far as the BA one, I think |
| 21:57.06 | JuNuKN | Thanks cp15. So did llang1 succeed with the src? I have to search in the log ;o) |
| 21:58.06 | Funklord | I really couldn't live without the wlan and keyb on BA |
| 21:58.23 | JuNuKN | Meanwhile I tested the Linux Port of wallaby .... but the characters on Seriell wasn't readable at all . I stopped the research and think to start it again with the himalaya |
| 21:59.04 | cp15 | The keyboard is now working (well, the driver has to be improved a bit) under linux |
| 21:59.09 | cp15 | No progress yet on wlan |
| 21:59.27 | Funklord | what's been changed on tsc2200 ? |
| 21:59.47 | JuNuKN | WLAN is also orderd as a SD-Card (50Euro) and Keyboards with Infrared and Docking-Craddle are sold arround 20 Euro for the MDA2 ! I 'll by one, when Linux comes in view! |
| 21:59.55 | cp15 | Unfortunately IDA Pro fails disassembling the windows wlan driver, because it is simply too complex |
| 22:00.02 | Funklord | (to get the keyb to work) |
| 22:00.19 | cp15 | The querty-keyboard is not related to the tsc2200 |
| 22:00.32 | cp15 | It has an own controller (probably the pic processor) |
| 22:00.40 | Funklord | oh I see |
| 22:00.55 | Funklord | but the front/side buttons? |
| 22:01.14 | cp15 | BTW: Funklord, do you have a english layout or a special swedish one? |
| 22:01.25 | Funklord | english |
| 22:01.44 | Funklord | the original layout is similar to international keyb |
| 22:02.08 | cp15 | Some of the front/side buttons are connected to the tsc2200 (it has a 4x4 keyboard controller) some are connected to asic3 and power is connected to gpio |
| 22:02.30 | Funklord | you need to push the alt + key a couple of billion times before getting the char you want |
| 22:02.40 | cp15 | Can you give me your keyboard layout? |
| 22:02.43 | Funklord | so typing swedish on it is useless |
| 22:03.08 | Funklord | cp15: how would I dump it? |
| 22:03.32 | Funklord | or you mean an image? |
| 22:03.38 | cp15 | Mine is a mixup between english and german. It has a quertz layout, but the umlauts are missing |
| 22:03.44 | cp15 | sharp s is available |
| 22:04.00 | cp15 | Please write it down, make a photo or a scan |
| 22:04.35 | cp15 | I want to complete the keyboard driver, but I don't want to make the german layout the standard one |
| 22:04.43 | cp15 | So I need the english layout |
| 22:07.02 | JuNuKN | So probaly you can look on the UK-Website of T-Mobile for a product photo ! |
| 22:07.32 | cp15 | All photos I have seen were to low in resolution to see something |
| 22:08.14 | JuNuKN | I will search for you, I thought to have seen ver good ones with some test reports ... |
| 22:09.58 | Funklord | damn camera isn't focusing |
| 22:11.04 | JuNuKN | By the way ... in the log was no discussion with llang1. So I didn't saw the status ... what was working and what not! Sound ? |
| 22:12.25 | cp15 | He just got to the ssh login |
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| 22:15.06 | *** topic/#htc-blueangel is http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelResearch **NEW 2.6.12-hh2-2 uploaded at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel | BA developer Meeting : Make your comments to cp15 or rob_w or register your nicks and use botmail ! |
| 22:16.25 | cp15 | There is a discussion between llange (he seems to use different nicks) and me about Himalaya on Sun Oct 09 2005 |
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| 22:20.10 | JuNuKN | Here is one of this Test Pages http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-blue-angel-en.shtml |
| 22:20.38 | Funklord | cp15: http://www.vibes.se/gallery/htc-blueangel/2005_10_25_htc_ba_keyb |
| 22:21.40 | cp15 | Funklord: Thanks very much |
| 22:21.41 | JuNuKN | OK, I was first and my pictures are better ;o) won !! |
| 22:22.08 | immolo | the keyboard looks at lot nice in silver |
| 22:22.43 | cp15 | Oh no, the layout has more than just a few differences |
| 22:23.15 | Funklord | cp15: are the scancodes the same for all keybs? |
| 22:23.53 | cp15 | I suppose |
| 22:23.54 | Funklord | just that they change those plastic stickers? |
| 22:24.11 | cp15 | Makes sense IMHO |
| 22:24.47 | immolo | mines the same as yours Funklord but without the ie button |
| 22:25.15 | Funklord | immolo: what does it have instead? |
| 22:25.21 | immolo | o2 logo |
| 22:25.30 | Funklord | ah |
| 22:25.35 | Funklord | custom design |
| 22:25.52 | cp15 | Mine has the vodafone drop there |
| 22:25.59 | immolo | yeah, it doesn't have a windows logo on the case either |
| 22:26.08 | immolo | yours silver or black cp15? |
| 22:26.09 | cp15 | But the key to the right of it is "Sym" and not "," |
| 22:26.13 | cp15 | Silver |
| 22:26.31 | immolo | heh I'm starting to feel left out :P |
| 22:26.47 | Funklord | the black duckling |
| 22:26.52 | immolo | yep |
| 22:26.56 | cp15 | rob ones is also black |
| 22:27.14 | Funklord | actually.. I'd prefer a black one, since the silver is almost worn off |
| 22:27.22 | immolo | he has a x6 board though doesn't he? |
| 22:27.38 | cp15 | Same problem here, especially at the SD card slot |
| 22:27.46 | cp15 | No, rob has a 0x5 board |
| 22:27.59 | immolo | ah |
| 22:28.03 | immolo | same as mine then |
| 22:28.10 | immolo | o2 branded? |
| 22:28.26 | cp15 | But the board id seems only to relate to the LCD used. Older ones seem to have a Sony one (with 0x5 id), newer ones Toppoly (with 0x6 id) |
| 22:28.44 | cp15 | Yes, I think. But rob's is without camera |
| 22:29.13 | immolo | he took it out himsellf though right? |
| 22:30.02 | cp15 | No, It was without camera originally. The camera button is a general purpose button on his device |
| 22:30.09 | immolo | :o |
| 22:30.21 | immolo | how strange |
| 22:30.53 | Funklord | I was looking at the camera pinout... to see if it were possible to hook a white LED there |
| 22:31.03 | immolo | lol |
| 22:31.20 | Funklord | get rid of the useless mirror and put an led there |
| 22:31.32 | immolo | yeah what is the point of that |
| 22:31.42 | immolo | even if you use it the pic sucks |
| 22:32.37 | cp15 | More useful it would be to replace the camera with a connector which connects to i2c i2s so you can hook up a better camera |
| 22:33.13 | Funklord | it wouldn't work with winCE anymore =P |
| 22:33.26 | cp15 | Who cares :-) |
| 22:33.39 | immolo | lol |
| 22:33.53 | immolo | oh you want that strace cp15? |
| 22:34.12 | cp15 | If the problem still persists, yes |
| 22:34.19 | immolo | very much so |
| 22:34.40 | cp15 | I also have read you had problems compiling gomunicator. What error did you get? |
| 22:35.20 | immolo | alsa problems |
| 22:35.33 | immolo | I think I can solve that but most of my time is on ts |
| 22:35.41 | Funklord | the camera is supposed to get 2.8V on pin 2 |
| 22:36.36 | cp15 | immolo: I think this was the wrong strace. It is from fontconfig |
| 22:36.38 | Funklord | simply hooking up a resistor and white led there should be sufficient |
| 22:36.43 | immolo | whoops |
| 22:37.16 | cp15 | Hmm... Probably not... White leds need 3.2V if I remember correctly |
| 22:38.36 | immolo | great I've lost it |
| 22:40.05 | immolo | hmm I'll try again when I get some spare time again |
| 22:40.50 | cp15 | Funklord: You need a MAX7315. It also includes a i2c interface so you can switch the led on/off and can probably also set the intensity |
| 22:41.27 | Funklord | MAX circuits are expensive =P |
| 22:41.28 | cp15 | See http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/3466/ln/en |
| 22:41.57 | Funklord | I found a white led needing 3V |
| 22:42.18 | cp15 | They offer free samples if you don't bother annoying calls from sales people |
| 22:43.19 | cp15 | Yeah, but you don't have headroom for a resistor, and this will make the led draw more current when it gets hot, after which it draws even more current and gets hotter... |
| 22:46.03 | Funklord | thanks for the link, interesting ic |
| 22:52.16 | JuNuKN | By the title interresting IC .... Did someone of you know, whether one of the HTC's has a USB-Host Port (-Controller), or whether it can somehow be inluded into the layout. |
| 22:53.09 | cp15 | I think the Universal has |
| 22:54.55 | cp15 | Don't think it is easy to implement on the other devices. The pxa usb isn't very flexible even in device mode and supports no host mode |
| 22:55.12 | cp15 | Also usually the power drain of usb devices is much to high for a pda/phone |
| 22:59.05 | JuNuKN | Ah, OK, you are correct with the power. But probably with a usb hub,,,, I thought on something like soldering the controller on the I2C Bus or something in this direction. |
| 23:00.09 | cp15 | Easiest solution then probably would be to use a gateway with two usb host ports |
| 23:00.37 | JuNuKN | On the universal, they told that, they don't have one... I followed some discussions about it on a webside. It was a statement of HTC-Guys |
| 23:01.05 | cp15 | Ah, ok... I thought it has one |
| 23:01.23 | JuNuKN | What means gateway? |
| 23:01.40 | cp15 | Maybe even the BA has one, it is rumored that the ATI3200 has a usb otg port |
| 23:02.12 | JuNuKN | #The developers diddn't believe it! They discussed, that it has an Host-Port, which is internally used. |
| 23:02.26 | cp15 | Gateway: A converter on application data |
| 23:02.53 | cp15 | Think of a mail/news gateway or a ftp/http gateway |
| 23:03.10 | cp15 | A router is not a gateway, btw |
| 23:03.14 | JuNuKN | I see! |
| 23:03.54 | JuNuKN | So for me the WLAN may be my gateway to storage ... |
| 23:03.55 | cp15 | So the BA sends data over usb to the gateway, the gateway converts the data into something new and sends it out on it's second port |
| 23:04.33 | cp15 | Then the gateway receives the data from the device, converts it again and sends it to the BA |
| 23:05.04 | JuNuKN | OK, ... but this might be in the far future! |
| 23:05.28 | immolo | bah, need to boot into a new kernell, brb |
| 23:09.45 | cp15 | Probably... Ah, I think a gateway with a single usb host interface should be sufficient, since the BA can sit on the same bus as the other device(s) |
| 23:10.51 | cp15 | USB over IP is in the works for linux, so the BA could talk to the gateway over ip and the gateway acts as normal host controller |
| 23:14.47 | JuNuKN | Sounds good! We will see ... |
| 23:18.21 | JuNuKN | But for now it is enought for me. I have to go to bed now. Thanks for your answers ... Now again I have a little bit more knowledge about it all. By the way I saw, that llang has tried to prt the BA kernel and finally succeseed. He reported, that he hasn't a Touchscreen driver! But In the wiki noone has reported, that all things ar researched and only needs final testing. So perhaps invite him to |
| 23:18.21 | JuNuKN | ask noone for help. I think you will meet him more often than I. Good night! |
| 23:21.14 | JuNuKN | Bye cp15. |
| 23:21.24 | cp15 | Bye, I will also go to bed now |