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06:34.42cp15Good morning
06:37.59mask3dmornin' cp15
06:38.09mask3dsorry for latchin on ya the other day after asking for help
06:42.54cp15No problem... Ehmm... What was your problem?
06:43.09mask3di'd load usbnet and wouldn't get a usb0
06:43.32mask3dtherefore i couldn't login to get info out about why evdev etc (kb and ts) wouldn't load
06:43.41mask3di would get the gpe login but no input
06:44.30cp15Maybe the usb0 on the ba was also not configured, so no usb0 on the host
06:45.25cp15Next time check the following:
06:45.39cp15/etc/modutils/g_ether should exist and contain "g_ether"
06:46.18cp15If not create it and run update-modules (from the initrd chrooted)
06:47.24cp15Take a look whether /etc/network/interfaces contain a block like this:
06:47.35cp15iface usb0 inet static
06:47.35cp15<PROTECTED>
06:47.35cp15<PROTECTED>
06:47.35cp15<PROTECTED>
06:47.35cp15<PROTECTED>
06:48.12cp15Then it should work
06:49.06mask3dit was working previously the only changed i made were the initrd and linuxrc i got from u, iirc g_ether did load..
06:50.59mask3di will check that tho in a min.
06:51.26cp15Ah... That might be the problem... The old initrd configured usb0 on the ba, the new one let the sd card system do this
07:02.00mask3dic.. well ill check it before i boot then
07:05.20mask3ddid the sdcard sys do it throught the linuxrc?
07:06.20cp15No, it uses the handhelds.org standard network configuration scheme, so you can change the ip address via gpe-conf
07:07.19mask3dthe linuxrc you gave me has modprobe g_ether and ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.206, so is that irellavent?
07:07.36cp15inittab cals /etc/init.d/networking start which calls ifup -a which looks into /etc/network/interfaces
07:09.19mask3dok
07:11.26mask3dit appears to have locked on the haret splash
07:11.28mask3dmight has
07:11.29mask3doops
07:11.42mask3dmight have to do with the up[grade i did to wm2005
07:13.40cp15Does a simple reset work, or do you need a hard reset?
07:13.48cp15Did the penguin eyes change?
07:14.50mask3dthe eyees change
07:14.56mask3dand i had to hard reset
07:15.11mask3dthe date had reset but evreything else like my password and ytoday backgrund were still set
07:15.37mask3di think ill just revert back to 2003, i wasn't happy w/ 2005 anyway
07:15.53cp15What are the advantages of 2005?
07:15.59mask3dgod knows
07:16.24mask3dits slower, wifi doesn't work as good, there are a few good tidbits.  nothing worth writing home about
07:17.46cp15The xda-developers people put a lot of energy in the project to let 2005 run
07:19.53mask3dwell.. i would prefer it over 2003 if the radio stack was better (mine wouldn't update like others did), msn messenger didn't go crazy
07:20.04mask3doverall they've done a good job
07:28.27mask3dok its restoring now...
07:28.45mask3dhows the gsm side of things going?
07:39.10cp15DPRAM is in the works, bluetooth audio not yet working, rest is ok
07:39.17cp15Bye, going to get my new car
07:39.59mask3dpxa_cs failed...
07:40.03mask3dah well too late..
08:07.37mask3di cant chroot into it.... dang
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08:29.27rob_w-cgihey guys
08:30.19mask3dhi rob
08:30.44mask3dcan u help me with a little something... how can i chroot into that gpe environment?
08:36.23rob_w-cgiahm .. create a dir say chrootmount
08:36.39rob_w-cgithen mount the sd against that
08:36.53rob_w-cgithen create a dir chroot/oldroot on the sd
08:37.11rob_w-cgithen call pivot_root chrootmount  chrootmount/oldroot
08:43.22mask3dlost me
08:43.29mask3dhaha nevermind ill work it out..
08:43.32mask3dthanks :)
08:48.21mask3dok well i did that, ill see how it goes
08:50.16mask3dhmm it didn't like that one bit.
08:53.49rob_w-cgidamn it my company is selling our devision ..
09:01.02mask3dbuy ut
09:01.03mask3dit*
09:02.42rob_w-cgihmm well
09:11.18mask3di gtg
09:11.19mask3dcytas
09:20.30immolowhy the hell does oe build an sh3 kernel every time?
09:41.53rob_w-cgididnt you tell it to do so ?
09:42.18rob_w-cgiwell did you double check the used .config ?
10:15.45immoloI told my machine config to use xanadux-ba-2.6
10:16.10immolobut gpe is building jlime-sh3-2.6.11
10:18.27immoloI'm going to test a theory
16:58.15immolohurrah it's stopped trying to build that sh3 kernel finally
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17:20.37cp15Good morning
17:21.12immolohey cp15
17:52.28cp15Hi immolo
17:53.03cp15Just got my new car and checking how to build in my board computer
17:56.35immolocool, I turned an old p3 900mhz into a carputer but that doesn't really count :P
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18:50.52immoloheya
18:53.20rob_whi
18:54.50rob_whow is it going ?
18:54.58rob_wcp15,  got some jobs ?
18:55.19immoloeverything is fine I think :P
18:55.30immologive me 10mins to find something :P
18:56.31rob_whehe  iam in the mood to complain about anything !!
19:02.15immolocool, but how can I get them resolved if they are dead?
19:02.58rob_wyour view is incorrect -- dead == solved
19:03.07immoloheh
19:03.57immolooh by the way that bb you sent me grabs the lastest gomunicator from cvs right
19:05.15rob_wthats what it is planned for
19:05.21immologreat
19:05.59rob_wbut it doesnt work for as gomunicator crashes on some missing alsa crap
19:06.16immoloI think I finally solved this kernel building issue so I should have gpe finished tonight ready to build gomunicator tomorrow before I go to work
19:06.47rob_wcruel
19:07.21rob_wi am working on the gpe-button-config thingi
19:07.38immoloyeah shame there is no wireless connection near where I work else I could build via ssh while at work
19:08.08rob_wwhat do you do for work ?
19:08.17immoloa bakery :P
19:08.37immolocomputer jobs in the UK are like gold dust
19:09.03rob_wi saw some tv stuff of a nice bakery latetly and i liked that fact that they produce things people can need and need
19:09.43rob_wyeah i travel every day 89 kilometers to have a it job and now adaptec sells of my divisions
19:10.06rob_ws/need/eat
19:10.55immoloheh the best computer job I found I can get is working in sales
19:11.06rob_whehe
19:11.18immoloyou need 5 years experince to get a real job
19:11.19rob_wat least you could ahve used putty to ssh into your home box :-)
19:11.32immolotrue :P
19:11.54immoloanyway I need to sort some tax stuff out so I'll be afk for a bit
19:12.55rob_w~lart taxes for beeing time stealing
19:14.59rob_wbbl
19:35.23cp15So, back from driving around with new car
19:36.03cp15immolo: You want new tasks?
19:40.16immolosure, just let me get this damn kernel baked :P
19:41.11cp15By the way: Rob and I are planning a blueangel developer meeting for a weekend. Do you want to take part?
19:41.33immolosure what date and time
19:42.19cp15Not yet fixed, I think I will make a voting who has time and when
19:42.59immolosounds good I'm just not as fexlible as I was now I'm back at work
19:43.13cp15What are you working?
19:43.21immolowhat sort of stuff is planned for it
19:43.37immoloas in times? 8am-5pm GMT
19:43.58cp15No, as in what is your job?
19:44.05immolooh bakery
19:44.26immoloI get to tell people what to do
19:44.56immolofun :P
19:45.21cp15You don't have to do something with IT? That surprises me
19:46.03immoloheh as I was just telling rob, computer jobs in the UK are like gold dust
19:46.21cp15How does that come?
19:46.57immolonearly all jobs need 5 years exprince
19:47.24cp15The economy in germany isn't all that good, but it's still pretty easy for good people to get a job.
19:47.24immolobut you can't get it unless you work
19:47.39cp15Chicken and egg problem
19:47.55immoloyeah worse one was a telephone support one
19:48.29immoloI was the most quailfied in what I knew but I had nothing to show for it
19:48.54immoloand how hard is giving windows support over the phone
19:49.10immoloyou just tell them to put in a bootdisk and type fdisk
19:49.28cp15I was lucky in that case. My former employer hired me nearly without practical experience. I did a good job (I think), but the company had serious problems after going public. So I quit and created my own company.
19:49.49immolocool I ran a few web hosting companies
19:50.02immolobut business isn't my thing
19:50.31cp15It wasn't mine also. I am more a technical person than a sales or finance one.
19:51.06immoloI'm pretty good at sales but suck at finance
19:51.41immoloI think thats the only thing that keeps me in work as I'm normally playing on my pda :P
19:51.59cp15:-)
19:52.59immologod I've so nearly solved this kernel problem I'm going to cry :P
19:53.01cp15I have neglected my company quite a bit since I started the BA project
19:53.33cp15I think I have to change my priorities soon. A lost customer won't come back
19:53.57immolohehe but linux on a ba will last forever
19:54.29immolothat should be the projects slogon
19:54.30cp15As for the kernel: The CVS version has two bugs: One file with pxa-uda* doesn't compile and snd-uda1380 is not compiled.
19:55.05immoloso even if I get bitbake to work it's still going to fail
19:55.27cp15Just a moment, I will fix the cvs
19:55.56immolook I'm going to get a hammer and smash this laptop hdd
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19:58.27rob_wre
19:58.32cp15Ok, kernel is fixed
19:58.55rob_win what bug ?
19:59.07rob_wi hope the audio
19:59.09cp15the uda1380 compile problems
19:59.23rob_wGood news , everyone
19:59.46rob_wwhas it wrong or just a missing piece in the picture ?
20:00.16cp15I have cleaned up the kernel before commiting it to cvs, but I have cleaned up a bit too much
20:01.03rob_wahh thats a good one ;" .. but Boss , it was there when i checked last ..:-(
20:01.47immolodamn it, its still saying no make target for oldconfig
20:02.11cp15have you copied arch/arm/configs/blueangel_defconfig to .config?
20:02.23immoloyes
20:03.03immoloumm no :P
20:03.11rob_win which step of your bb file do you actually do it ?
20:04.34immoloI modified a the handhelds-pxa-2.6.12-hh2.bb and it does everything expect making the kernel
20:04.48rob_wso cp15 then snd-pxa-uda loads on top of snd-uda , right ?=
20:05.04cp15No snd-pxa-uda does not work on ba
20:05.19cp15blueangel-audio has to do the job, but is not yet finished
20:05.36cp15The audio subsystem of the ba is somewhat strange
20:05.36rob_wcrap
20:05.52rob_wso tell me more ,,
20:06.07rob_whow now actually do get it now ?
20:06.17cp15?
20:06.32rob_wsnd-mixer-oss and snd-uda1380
20:06.57rob_wand why the heck is there the oss mixer , but we use alsa modules
20:07.34cp15You need to load i2c_pxa first, then snd-uda1380 then blueangel_audio then snd-mixer-oss
20:08.08cp15Alsa has no own mixer interface, it's only way to talk to the mixer is via snd-mixer-oss
20:08.34cp15If you have loaded everything run amixer
20:08.37rob_wthanks for cleaning this up for me
20:09.01cp15It should show some channels, including one named "Phone"
20:09.21immolodo we still need to run sound in ce before starting haret?
20:09.34cp15If you set this one to 33% and run audio -on, you can make voice calls
20:09.45cp15This does work without haret aid
20:10.03cp15Playing sound probably will not. But I am not yet finished
20:10.28rob_wok i will try this now
20:11.06rob_wdo i still need the TAG ?
20:11.14cp15TAG?
20:11.24immoloright the .config should be placed in the root of the kernel sources as I would normally if I configured by hand right?
20:11.40cp15immolo: Right
20:11.53immoloso why doesn't it work :P
20:12.06cp15Show me your output
20:12.18immolo| NOTE: make -e MAKEFLAGS= oldconfig
20:12.19immolo| make: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'.  Stop.
20:12.19immolo| FATAL: oe_runmake failed
20:12.19immolo| yes: standard output: Broken pipe
20:12.19immolo| yes: write error
20:12.55cp15Are you in the correct directory for make?
20:13.22immoloI need to cd as well?
20:13.45immoloif thats the problem I will cry :P
20:13.58cp15Most likely, the make doesn't know it has to change to linux-2.6-xda
20:14.22immolocan I just write bash into bb files?
20:14.51rob_wdamnit it ,  i am not used to tagged cvs `s
20:14.59cp15you can use make -C <directory>
20:15.09cp15What problem do you have?
20:15.29rob_wit was -r TAG co modules , right , no
20:15.49cp15If you have already checked out your tree cvs update will be enough
20:16.10rob_wthat was the initial problem ,.,i dont find the dir anymore
20:16.58cp15Take a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelKernel
20:18.34immoloI'm getting further now :D
20:20.37rob_wcp15, the change u did doesnt look promising ,,
20:20.48rob_wyou only unchecked the modules ..
20:21.11cp15Yes... They don't compile and are not needed
20:21.28cp15But snd-uda1380 should compile now
20:22.34rob_wi did fight today with that kernel and tryed various ways of not building the 2 ones but building snd-uda
20:23.19cp15Yes, snd-uda1380 normally only gets compiled if you select the other modules.
20:23.43cp15That's why I patched the Makefile to build it anyway
20:25.50immolo<PROTECTED>
20:25.51immolo| make: *** No rule to make target `include/linux/version.h'.  Stop.
20:25.51immolo| FATAL: oe_runmake failed
20:25.53immolowhy :P
20:26.50cp15Show me the oe_runmake command
20:28.10immolomake -C /root/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/tmp/work/handhelds-ba-2.6.12-r0/linux-2.6-xda oldconfig
20:28.58cp15looks good
20:29.05rob_wwhy old ?
20:29.28immoloI don't need it?
20:29.34cp15Because you want to use the old .config and not create a new one
20:29.35immoloI've never needed to build a kernel this way
20:29.50cp15Then try it without oldconfig
20:30.34immoloI did mean as I normally configure myself and do it the normal way :P
20:30.51rob_wwait there is no blueangel.defconfig anymore ...
20:32.09cp15immolo: Send me your .bb
20:32.17rob_wa fresh checkout is missing arch/arm/configs/blueange**
20:32.29immolotwo secs I'm just going to test one more thing
20:32.31cp15Then you forgot to set the tag
20:34.16rob_widid ,,,
20:36.58rob_wlets see if i got the correct makefile at least
20:41.31rob_wcrap i had a yet right but still wrong tag
20:52.47immoloany ideas cp15?
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21:51.18cp15Sorry, my router crashed
22:43.48cp15immolo: still here?
22:46.10immoloam now
22:46.56cp15Ok, remove the file:///blueangel_defconfig from the .bb
22:47.17cp15This is only required if blueangel_defconfig is included in the oe setup
22:47.25immoloah
22:47.30immolook done
22:47.50cp15Replace S = "${WORKDIR}/kernel26" with S = "${WORKDIR}/linux-2.6-xda"
22:48.13immoloright
22:48.15cp15Don't know if it is really required, but kernel26 is definetly wrong
22:48.58immoloand that will start me in the right directory we hope
22:49.03cp15Replace the install commando with "cp arch/arm/configs/blueangel_defconfig .config"
22:49.38cp15"yes '' | oe_runmake oldconfig" should be enough
22:49.48immolook
22:49.54immolowill try now
22:49.59cp15At least it compiles now but fails at final link. I have to check why
22:50.24cp15Ok, I know, wrong PATH
22:52.34immoloright let me update the cvs to your new kernel and hopefully version 1 of the blueangel linux distro will be realsed tomorrow
22:52.55immolowell at least a beta anyway :P
22:53.09cp15:-) Wow, If that is true you have really done a great job
22:53.50immoloheh, don't thank me if it wasn't for you and rob I would still be here for a month
22:55.11immoloanyway if it's alright with you I was going to start writing some docs up once I get distro sorted out into a usable state
22:57.34cp15That would be excellent. I would like a little text with instructions how to make the images from scratch, so everybody who wants do help in development can setup his own oe environment, create an image and modify what he thinks needs to be improved
22:59.36immolook but I need you to double check some of my configs before I write that one as some are a little hardcoded :P
23:00.13cp15No problem... It doesn't have to be perfect for the first step
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23:06.17immoloshame
23:06.33immoloI'll miss that when I make the switch
23:06.47immolothat and psx games
23:07.01cp15I will take a shot for it next weekend again
23:07.13immolonice
23:07.47immolooh how did the suspend problem go?
23:08.35cp15Suspend problem? There is currently too much power drain, that is the main problem.
23:08.58immolobecause I don't think that linux will ever get the same as ce while it's using the sdcard
23:09.16cp15But if you connect your ba to the charger overnight, it will last til you go to bed
23:09.29immoloas my battery drains like anything if I play my mp3s off my sdcard
23:09.52cp15This would limit only the active time, but should have no influence on suspend time
23:09.57immoloit's failed again :o
23:10.04cp15Messages?
23:10.05immolohmm true
23:10.13immolo| NOTE: make -e MAKEFLAGS= include/linux/version.h CC=arm-linux-gcc LD=arm-linux-ld
23:10.13immolo| make: *** No rule to make target `include/linux/version.h'.  Stop.
23:10.13immolo| FATAL: oe_runmake failed
23:11.19cp15Is this the only output?
23:12.54immolothe only other part tells about the log file
23:13.00immolowhich says the same
23:13.21cp15What is the logfile's name?
23:13.32immololog.do_compile.4474
23:14.02cp15Take a look what is in run.do_compile.4474
23:15.08immolooe_runmake() {
23:15.08immolo<PROTECTED>
23:15.08immolo<PROTECTED>
23:15.08immolo<PROTECTED>
23:15.08immolo}
23:15.09immolobase_do_stage() {
23:15.53immololots of mirrors
23:16.07cp15The last 2 lines?
23:16.16immolocd /root/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/tmp/work/handhelds-ba-2.6.12-r0/linux-2.6-xda
23:16.16immolodo_compile
23:16.58cp15Send me the file
23:19.25cp15No, not that one, the one which contained the do_compile command
23:19.45immolooh the log
23:20.06cp15the run.do_compile.4474
23:28.04cp15run run.do_compile.4474 manually
23:28.59immolosame
23:29.10cp15Just the one single error?
23:29.18immoloyeah
23:29.48immoloyou think this could be beause I had to overlay onto a 2.4 bb image?
23:33.59cp15Hmm... After changing your paths to mine the do_compile works
23:34.32immolowhat are your paths?
23:35.15cp15/home/martin/blueangel/oe/build and /home/martin/blueangel/oe/org.openembedded.dev
23:35.57immoloand is that just by doing a bitbake -b?
23:38.16cp15Yes
23:38.29cp15cd /home/martin/blueangel/oe/build
23:38.39cp15bitbake -b <path to your bb file>
23:39.04cp15Have you already tried to remove the unpacked files?
23:39.11immoloyes
23:39.22immolobut I haven't tried building it that way
23:39.31immoloNOTE: package xanadux-ba-2.6-1.0-r0: task do_compile: started :D
23:40.21cp15Hope it works now, but I have just seen you will encounter another error
23:40.30immololol
23:40.37immoloyou know how to break my heart
23:41.57cp15But it is easy to fix. Goto linux-2.6-xda/drivers/serial/pxa.c line 610 and add replace "extern struct" with "static struct"
23:42.04immolosound by any chance?
23:42.19cp15Sound?
23:42.36immoloinclude/asm/hardware/shamcop-clocks.h:43: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
23:42.36immolo| make[2]: *** [sound/arm/pxa-i2sound-h2200.o] Error 1
23:42.36immolo| make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/tmp/work/xanadux-ba-2.6-1.0-r0/linux-2.6-xda'
23:42.36immolo| make[1]: *** [sound/arm] Error 2
23:42.36immolo| make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/tmp/work/xanadux-ba-2.6-1.0-r0/linux-2.6-xda'
23:42.41immolo| make: *** [sound] Error 2
23:42.43immolo| FATAL: oe_runmake failed
23:42.45immoloNOTE: Task failed: /root/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/tmp/work/xanadux-ba-2.6-1.0-r0/temp/log.do_compile.6260
23:42.48immoloNOTE: package xanadux-ba-2.6-1.0-r0: task do_compile: failed
23:43.39cp15Ah, delete your source archive and checkout again. But wait a moment, I will fix the pxa.c first
23:44.43immoloso just delete linux-2.6-xda/sound?
23:48.34cp15No, just a moment
23:49.33immolowhoops :P
23:49.41immoloI jumped the gun alittle
23:52.45cp15Hmm... Now I get the same error as you got
23:53.45immolois that from a fresh update?
23:54.12cp15Ah, now I know where the error was
23:55.13cp15Oh no, the cvs servers from sourceforge are not synced
23:55.34immoloyou need to get access to the hh cvs server :P
23:55.55cp15But anyway... Note these instructions, you will need them every time you want to build a current kernel
23:56.10immolook
23:56.22cp15remove xanadux-ba-2.6.12-1.0-r0 directory (including content)
23:56.32immolouh huh
23:56.59immoloand the source?
23:57.05cp15remove sources/linux-2.6-xda_cvs.sourceforge.net_K2-6-12-hh2-xda0-ba0_.tar.gz
23:57.15immolodone
23:57.37cp15remove stamps/xanadux-ba-2.6.12*
23:58.06immolok
23:58.36cp15That last step caused the problems. The stamp for unpack was still set from a previous build, but the unpack wasn't really done before compile
23:58.51immoloah
23:59.19immoloso now I need to re download?
23:59.24immoloand compile
23:59.26cp15Then change to your build directory, run bitbake -b <path to your bb file> and see
23:59.41cp15No, It will do a cvs update, which takes a few minutes
23:59.58cp15If it fails at serial/pxa.c, repeat everything tomorrow

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