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| 01:34.48 | masked | mornin' |
| 01:42.47 | masked | whats the name of the ts and kb modules? |
| 01:43.00 | masked | i thought they'd be in this linuxrc file to load, but i dont see them |
| 02:04.02 | masked | for some reason my usb net device isn't appearing on my host machine anymore?! |
| 02:22.20 | masked | brb |
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| 07:16.10 | rob_w-cgi | morning all |
| 13:17.58 | immolo | heya |
| 13:18.23 | immolo | oh great |
| 13:18.29 | immolo | monotone failed |
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| 13:23.44 | immolo | oh good its onlly got an hour to do |
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| 14:10.04 | rob_w-cgi | forst_ii : are u ok ;-) |
| 14:12.36 | immolo | :P |
| 14:13.11 | immolo | hey rob have you go a list of the modules used by blueangel |
| 14:13.28 | immolo | I don't want to switch to linux just to find them |
| 14:14.25 | rob_w-cgi | all blueangel_* ones |
| 14:14.39 | rob_w-cgi | beisde some non working , like blueangel_suspend |
| 14:14.59 | rob_w-cgi | ahm beside that the normal once oyu would expect , |
| 14:15.04 | immolo | well I was creating an oe config file for the blueangel |
| 14:15.05 | rob_w-cgi | usbserial |
| 14:15.34 | rob_w-cgi | ok then check the initrd which loads which |
| 14:16.07 | rob_w-cgi | the rest i dont know yet , but are either compiled in or not known yet to me |
| 14:16.23 | rob_w-cgi | what oe conf are you creating a MACHINE file ? |
| 14:16.29 | immolo | yeah |
| 14:16.43 | immolo | I was modifing the hx4700 one |
| 14:17.34 | rob_w-cgi | good , i would go for the ones used in the initrd and then use the blueangel.config file and form there we will need to add them step by step like wifi and bt |
| 14:17.55 | rob_w-cgi | most important are evdev and the touchscreen ones |
| 14:18.01 | immolo | bt is started with the bt_uart isn't it? |
| 14:18.32 | rob_w-cgi | yeah but i guess we still need some asic switch on through a blueangel_bt |
| 14:18.34 | rob_w-cgi | or so |
| 14:19.18 | immolo | ok so if I tell the config to use blueangel_bt it will be ready when its created? |
| 14:41.10 | rob_w-cgi | yeah |
| 14:41.29 | immolo | ok |
| 14:41.37 | immolo | let see if this works |
| 14:43.14 | rob_w-cgi | do you have write access to oe ? |
| 14:43.25 | immolo | yeah |
| 14:44.02 | rob_w-cgi | good to know |
| 14:44.14 | immolo | hehe, forgot to set a cache directory |
| 14:44.23 | rob_w-cgi | so u created a different MACHINE , right ? |
| 14:44.32 | rob_w-cgi | is it called blueangel ? |
| 14:44.35 | immolo | yeah htc-blueangel |
| 14:44.57 | rob_w-cgi | good then i can pull that today evening |
| 14:45.34 | immolo | well I've got a lot further then the last time I used this |
| 14:48.16 | immolo | ok where do you set a cache dir? |
| 14:53.05 | rob_w-cgi | local.conf ? |
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| 15:59.58 | cp15 | Good morning |
| 16:08.03 | immolo | heya |
| 16:08.19 | immolo | you much about oe errors? |
| 16:15.11 | cp15 | What errors? |
| 16:16.15 | immolo | ERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf (conf/local.conf:57: unparsed line: ' MACHINE = "htc-blueangel"') |
| 16:17.27 | cp15 | Let me take a look |
| 16:18.36 | cp15 | try MACHINE = "h3900" for now, you have to create a blue angel config file to use MACHINE=htc-blueangel |
| 16:18.50 | immolo | I've made a htc-blueangel config :P |
| 16:19.07 | cp15 | Ok... |
| 16:19.28 | immolo | ok I'm getting the same error with h3900 |
| 16:19.51 | cp15 | What was your command? |
| 16:20.02 | immolo | bitbake nano |
| 16:20.41 | cp15 | Does the error occur immedialely? |
| 16:20.53 | immolo | yeah |
| 16:20.57 | immolo | I think I know why |
| 16:21.00 | immolo | two secs |
| 16:21.03 | cp15 | How is your BBPATH set? |
| 16:21.25 | immolo | /home/immolo/oe/build:/home/immolo/oe/org.openembedded.dev |
| 16:22.23 | cp15 | Similar to mine |
| 16:22.41 | immolo | maybe gentoo did something when it emerged |
| 16:23.47 | immolo | I think it maybe an idea to do it from scratch rather then using emerge to do it for me |
| 16:25.15 | cp15 | MACHINE should just be a normal variable. It is used in org.openembedded.dev/conf/bitbake.conf: include conf/machine/${MACHINE}.conf |
| 16:25.50 | immolo | ah |
| 16:26.01 | cp15 | Try renaming the MACHINE variable to MACHINE2 |
| 16:26.30 | cp15 | Maybe you have a bb which handles MACHINE special |
| 16:28.16 | immolo | I've got : |
| 16:28.19 | immolo | include conf/local.conf |
| 16:28.19 | immolo | include conf/machine/htc-blueangel.conf |
| 16:29.22 | cp15 | where? |
| 16:29.32 | immolo | in bitbake.conf |
| 16:30.34 | cp15 | Did you add the htc-blueangel.conf? |
| 16:30.46 | immolo | yeah it's in conf/machine |
| 16:30.51 | immolo | with the files it uses |
| 16:32.13 | cp15 | Ah, maybe this caused the error. Try changing it back to include conf/machine/${MACHINE}.conf |
| 16:32.44 | immolo | still the same |
| 16:33.43 | cp15 | Have you tried changing MACHINE to MACHINE2 in your local.conf? |
| 16:35.02 | cp15 | Just to test if MACHINE does something special |
| 16:35.39 | immolo | still fails |
| 16:35.53 | cp15 | With the same error? |
| 16:36.10 | immolo | yeah just says MACHINE2 instead of MACHINE |
| 16:36.53 | cp15 | But the other variables before didn't get that error? Strange. Send me your local.conf |
| 16:41.01 | immolo | one sec |
| 16:41.14 | immolo | just going to try one thing quick |
| 16:44.16 | immolo | I'm going to have dinner quick |
| 16:44.41 | cp15 | Ok, when you are finished, remove the spaces before the variable name |
| 17:14.29 | immolo | now why didn't pick up on that |
| 17:15.30 | immolo | ERROR: anonymous function: access() argument 1 must be string, not None |
| 17:15.34 | immolo | is that normal? |
| 17:15.51 | cp15 | Don't think. Any other messages? |
| 17:16.26 | immolo | ERROR: Unable to generate local paths for SRC_URI due to malformed uri: ${GNOME_ |
| 17:16.26 | immolo | MIRROR}/libgnomecanvas/2.6/libgnomecanvas-2.6.1.1.tar.bz2 while parsing /home/im |
| 17:16.26 | immolo | molo/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gnome/libgnomecanvas_2.6.1.1.bb |
| 17:16.26 | immolo | ERROR: anonymous function: access() argument 1 must be string, not None |
| 17:16.26 | immolo | ERROR: Unable to generate local paths for SRC_URI due to malformed uri: ${GNOME_ |
| 17:16.30 | immolo | MIRROR}/libgnomeprint/2.6/libgnomeprint-2.6.2.tar.bz2 while parsing /home/immolo |
| 17:16.35 | immolo | ERROR: anonymous function: access() argument 1 must be string, not None |
| 17:16.36 | immolo | ERROR: Unable to generate local paths for SRC_URI due to malformed uri: ${GNOME_ |
| 17:16.39 | immolo | MIRROR}/libgnomeprint/2.8/libgnomeprint-2.8.2.tar.bz2 while parsing /home/immolo |
| 17:16.44 | immolo | small part of the output |
| 17:19.04 | immolo | I need to set that varible don't I |
| 17:19.29 | cp15 | SRC_URI? It is a package variable |
| 17:19.56 | immolo | SRC_URI is normally the url of where to get the package |
| 17:20.07 | immolo | at least in a gentoo ebuild it is |
| 17:22.04 | cp15 | Yes, it should be defined in the .bb file |
| 17:23.00 | cp15 | Is GNOME_MIRROR defined in your bitbake.conf? |
| 17:23.35 | immolo | SRC_URI = "file://${FILE}" |
| 17:23.43 | immolo | that's in my bitbake.conf |
| 17:23.57 | immolo | but no gnome_mirror |
| 17:24.30 | cp15 | Did you use the bitbake.conf from org.openembedded.dev/conf unmodified? |
| 17:24.55 | immolo | yes |
| 17:25.01 | cp15 | How big is it? |
| 17:25.47 | immolo | 3kb ish |
| 17:26.33 | cp15 | Mine is 15kb... Hmm... |
| 17:27.02 | immolo | does your's set mirrors? |
| 17:27.33 | cp15 | Yes |
| 17:29.12 | immolo | let me find out what mine mirrors are and see what happens |
| 17:29.57 | cp15 | What does "monotone diff" output? |
| 17:33.09 | immolo | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0152/2799) [ 5 %]ERROR: anonymous function: access() argument 1 must be string, not None |
| 17:33.14 | immolo | is all it says |
| 17:33.18 | immolo | errr |
| 17:33.25 | immolo | if I bitbake nano now |
| 17:33.54 | immolo | monotone: misuse: working copy directory required but not found |
| 17:38.26 | cp15 | You have to be in org.openembedded.dev or one of its subdirectories |
| 17:39.41 | immolo | I'm getting the same there |
| 17:40.20 | immolo | I set it following the wiki that shows you had to do it in its own directoy |
| 17:44.06 | cp15 | Which commands did you use? |
| 17:45.00 | immolo | bitbake nano |
| 17:45.26 | immolo | or to get it to run in this directory? |
| 17:45.45 | cp15 | No, to get the org.openembedded.dev directory |
| 17:47.23 | immolo | monotone --db=oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 17:49.33 | cp15 | I will update my org.openembedded.dev tree, maybe there is an error |
| 17:50.18 | immolo | I didn't do step 7 in the wiki :o |
| 17:51.16 | immolo | bah still the same |
| 17:51.20 | immolo | time for some googl |
| 17:51.21 | immolo | e |
| 17:52.50 | cp15 | I think I don't like monotone... Its horrible slow |
| 17:54.08 | cp15 | I will leave now eating something and maybe watching a movie |
| 17:54.37 | immolo | ok, I will play |
| 17:54.43 | immolo | see ya |
| 20:54.21 | cp15 | re |
| 21:15.06 | immolo | oh great, I think I've killed gentoo |
| 21:15.22 | immolo | brb |
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| 21:32.32 | immolo | well something strange happened there |
| 21:32.57 | cp15 | What? |
| 21:33.22 | immolo | /dev/null turned into a file so emerge wouldn't work |
| 21:33.48 | immolo | then the filesystem when funny so I had to run a livecd to do an fsck |
| 21:34.09 | immolo | and now some of config files in my home have gone missing |
| 21:34.30 | cp15 | Oops... |
| 21:34.45 | immolo | yeah |
| 21:34.47 | cp15 | Can you identify them in lost+found? |
| 21:34.53 | immolo | good idea |
| 21:35.29 | immolo | ah does jfs have a lost+found |
| 21:36.05 | cp15 | I think so. At least on AIX, it does. And on linux I am using xfs. |
| 21:36.34 | immolo | you know if it keeps it in a special place? |
| 21:37.27 | cp15 | It should be in the filesystem root... But I have just created a jfs filesystem, no lost+found here. |
| 21:37.56 | immolo | I have /home on a different partition |
| 21:38.17 | cp15 | Then your files may be in /home/lost+found |
| 21:38.44 | cp15 | The jfs fsck knows lost+found, it probably creates it on demand |
| 21:39.20 | immolo | well a quick google says it dosn't have one |
| 21:39.58 | cp15 | strings fsck.jfs | grep -i lost+found | wc -l |
| 21:40.00 | cp15 | 9 |
| 21:40.46 | immolo | 0 |
| 21:41.05 | cp15 | Ah... Are there different jfs fscks? |
| 21:41.20 | cp15 | fsck.jfs version 1.1.5, 04-Mar-2004 |
| 21:41.26 | immolo | thats mine |
| 21:41.52 | immolo | oh no |
| 21:41.57 | immolo | I have 1.1.8 |
| 21:42.11 | cp15 | Ah... My system is pretty old |
| 21:42.33 | cp15 | But what does jfs with unconnected inodes? I hope it won't delete them |
| 21:42.33 | immolo | I spring cleaned at the start of the month |
| 21:43.26 | immolo | I don't know, I've only started using jfs because of its use in laptops |
| 21:43.50 | immolo | I'm getting around 2 hours of extra battery life compared to reiserfs |
| 21:44.51 | cp15 | Really? How is that possible? |
| 21:45.09 | immolo | not sure, the system is pretty identical to my old one |
| 21:45.31 | immolo | I know jfs doesn't spin the disk up as much as most file systems |
| 21:45.49 | immolo | so I guess reiser must access stuff all the time |
| 21:46.58 | immolo | but 2 hours is good enough to change filesystems |
| 21:47.03 | cp15 | Hmm... Well, the access times probably have to be updated very often, but jfs should have the same problem |
| 21:47.06 | cp15 | Sure |
| 21:47.21 | cp15 | My old notebook won't even get 2 hours :-( |
| 21:47.37 | immolo | heh I get 4 hours on 64bit |
| 21:48.08 | immolo | which is the same as windows 32bit gets |
| 21:48.29 | cp15 | Does 64 bit use more power? |
| 21:48.36 | immolo | quite a bit more |
| 21:49.00 | cp15 | Is it faster? |
| 21:49.14 | immolo | I find it faster |
| 21:49.21 | immolo | but some say its not |
| 21:49.39 | immolo | I can cut ripping a dvd by around 2-3 hours |
| 21:49.55 | immolo | xorg takes around 10mins to complie |
| 21:50.03 | cp15 | Well, if it isn't faster, just for having 64 bit addresses it's not worth it in most cases. |
| 21:50.42 | immolo | it's worth upgrading to |
| 21:50.48 | immolo | but only if you need to |
| 21:51.02 | cp15 | Hehe, I compiled my first X11 on a 68030 with 4 MB ram and a 80 MB harddisk (including source, binaries and os). It took days |
| 21:51.04 | immolo | my celeron 333 was starting to lag though |
| 21:51.46 | immolo | lol you are the first person to beat my compiling glibc on a p133 record |
| 21:52.12 | immolo | it's taken 3 years to find someone beat that |
| 21:52.55 | cp15 | How long did it compile? |
| 21:53.06 | immolo | 2-3 days |
| 21:53.17 | immolo | I think it was 2 1/2 |
| 21:53.17 | cp15 | Not bad :-) |
| 21:53.26 | immolo | heh |
| 21:53.45 | immolo | glibc on my ps2 was quite bad as well |
| 21:53.55 | immolo | not days though |
| 21:54.18 | immolo | still it doesn't take much time anymore |
| 21:54.50 | cp15 | Yeah, machines are pretty fast nowadays. But I think progress is slowing. |
| 21:55.19 | immolo | I said that in 2001 and then jumped quite a bit |
| 21:55.35 | bhima | Moore's law is still moving along. |
| 21:55.46 | immolo | heh |
| 21:55.52 | immolo | I wonder if that will ever end |
| 21:56.16 | cp15 | Hi bhima, how was it in italy? |
| 21:57.05 | immolo | anyway I'm going eat |
| 21:57.36 | cp15 | I will go to bed soon |
| 22:00.28 | bhima | cp15: Italy is next week; this week was, and still is, getting ready for italy :) |
| 22:01.20 | bhima | lambda functions are so convenient. |
| 22:01.24 | cp15 | Ah, ok |
| 22:02.45 | cp15 | My math is pretty bad... For what can you use lambda functions? |
| 22:03.02 | bhima | Don't feel bad. Everybody asks that. :) |
| 22:03.48 | bhima | def add(x): return lamda y: x+y |
| 22:03.52 | bhima | k = add(4) |
| 22:03.57 | bhima | k(1) => 5 |
| 22:04.03 | bhima | k(4) => 8 |
| 22:05.29 | bhima | That's an example in Python. |
| 22:10.48 | cp15 | So it's some kind of virtual function? |
| 22:11.26 | bhima | dynamically created function. |
| 22:11.59 | cp15 | Ah, ok. But you can make pretty hard to understand code with this, I think |
| 22:14.17 | bhima | Yes. Or you can make easier to understand code if you use them well :) |
| 22:16.04 | cp15 | Before going to bed a little progress report: I think I know now how dpram works, so GPRS is on the way |
| 22:16.51 | bhima | yay. :) |
| 22:17.03 | cp15 | Since we have a long weekend now, I think next week we will have sound and wlan |
| 22:17.17 | bhima | The h6300 people think that there is no DPRAM interface on the omap used in the 6300. |
| 22:19.28 | cp15 | It's not related to the processor. It is a pheripheral device which sits on the main processor bus and on the gsm processor bus the same time |
| 22:20.35 | cp15 | It's not as clever as I thought first. There is no ring buffer, its just a single packet buffer |
| 22:21.30 | cp15 | One processor writes data in it and signals the other processor how many bytes there are. After ack, the first processor can write the next packet at the same location |
| 22:26.20 | cp15 | So, good night now |
| 22:26.25 | bhima | Ahh, ok. It does seem odd to do that. |
| 22:26.25 | bhima | ok. |
| 22:26.31 | bhima | Good night. *wavel* |