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| 06:38.58 | cp15 | Good Morning |
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| 07:24.44 | rob_w-cgi | morning all ... what a weekend .. hehe |
| 07:25.07 | rob_w-cgi | please spit out your political comments now ... or never |
| 07:32.59 | cp15 | I will wait for dresden before giving up all hope |
| 07:35.03 | rob_w-cgi | oh |
| 07:35.28 | rob_w-cgi | i think the clear message is there is no clear message |
| 07:35.48 | rob_w-cgi | so any fu** plotician now has to sit together !!! thats how we voted ! |
| 07:36.22 | rob_w-cgi | they are the bad people still thinking they can fight each other ,, no , they now have to work TOGETHER ! |
| 07:50.20 | cp15 | They won't work together, they will still fight |
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| 08:06.24 | rob_w-cgi | re ,, sorry closed the browser |
| 08:07.20 | cp15 | You can surf at work? Seems to be a social company |
| 08:10.24 | rob_w-cgi | hehe |
| 08:11.17 | cp15 | My boss is not happy when I am surfing too much at work ;-) |
| 08:17.28 | rob_w-cgi | ? i thought u r the boss `? |
| 08:17.54 | rob_w-cgi | well as a techsupport it is hard to forbid or reglement the internet .. |
| 08:18.15 | rob_w-cgi | so as long as you deliver your statistics and calls iam safe ! |
| 08:20.41 | cp15 | Yes, I am my own boss, but not a nice one |
| 08:24.25 | cp15 | Did you succeed in merging my changes into gomunicator 0.1.3? |
| 08:25.20 | bhima | good morning. |
| 08:25.40 | rob_w-cgi | no |
| 08:25.42 | cp15 | Good morning |
| 08:25.54 | rob_w-cgi | salve bhima |
| 08:26.26 | cp15 | :-( I wanted to continue development. Have you changed anything in 0.1.3? If not, I will try to merge |
| 08:26.33 | rob_w-cgi | cp15 actually i didnt had too much time |
| 08:26.55 | cp15 | Ok, then I will try |
| 08:26.58 | bhima | The h6300 uses a wifi device that apparently doesn't currently have a free driver. |
| 08:27.09 | rob_w-cgi | sure go ahead , just try filling me with clear statues ... |
| 08:27.37 | rob_w-cgi | maybe try to keep it open via command lines so we might be compatible with other hardware |
| 08:27.50 | rob_w-cgi | thats why i used term.h |
| 08:29.07 | cp15 | bhima: It is the same chip as in the blueangel. There is a free driver, but it its not yet in production state and one important part (card service) is missing |
| 08:29.52 | cp15 | I tried to implement it the last days, but there seems still something missing. Ther driver doesn't get called |
| 08:30.05 | rob_w-cgi | cp15 but reading the README it tells that the pci devices will be problems |
| 08:30.41 | cp15 | Its not connected via pci on the ba |
| 08:31.16 | bhima | cp15: Interesting. So it's definitely a PCMCIA interface? |
| 08:31.44 | cp15 | bhima: Do you know at which sample rate the ba audio works? I have measured 40K, which seems a bit strange |
| 08:31.54 | cp15 | Yes, I am nearly sure now :-) |
| 08:33.03 | bhima | cp15: Well, I do know that when I used a VoIP program on my BA, it sounded like shit and was _extremely_ garbled... :) |
| 08:33.33 | bhima | Maybe it was trying to send out the wrong number of samples per second. |
| 08:34.30 | bhima | I may be able to find a program that will change the hardware sampling rate of the BA under WinCE. Would doing that and then some GPIO dumping be useful |
| 08:34.31 | bhima | ? |
| 08:37.37 | cp15 | No, since I don't know where to set the sample rate. I just know a bit to turn the clock on and off. And it gives a rate of 40 kHz +-1%. |
| 08:38.38 | bhima | I'd be somewhat happier with 40kHz + ~10%. :) |
| 08:39.14 | cp15 | At first I thought it must be an error, and its really 44,1 kHz, but it doesn't look like that |
| 08:40.08 | bhima | If that is the case, that is truly fucked up. |
| 08:41.31 | cp15 | Maybe we can switch the ssp port (used for audio transfer) to internal clock, but I am afraid from the cpu frequency you wont get any standard rate |
| 08:50.20 | bhima | I suppose that'll do; it shoudln't be that hard to do sample rate conversion foo. |
| 08:51.11 | bhima | I can probably get some source that does it fairly well integer-only without much CPU overhead. |
| 09:03.00 | cp15 | That would be nice |
| 09:05.40 | bhima | (we have a speech recognizer ported to wince, integer only, and were using some code like this. Sadly, not open source) |
| 10:14.04 | rob_w-cgi | do we support the battery already ,, ,i can load the module and i see messages regarding it but i cant find a device either under /proc nor /sys |
| 10:16.20 | cp15 | I am not sure :-) There seems to be a register on the tsc2200 which is related to the battery, but reading it disturbs the touchscreen and the relation to battery is a bit strange |
| 10:19.44 | rob_w-cgi | hmm how is the touch disturbed ? |
| 10:20.09 | rob_w-cgi | also does this register talk about both battery`s ? |
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| 13:44.39 | bhima | pocketexplorer dies when it tries to look at my MMC card. |
| 14:11.00 | cp15 | Use a real os :-) |
| 14:11.37 | cp15 | But no kidding: WinCE doesn't seem to offer any process protection. Every process can do everything |
| 14:13.05 | bhima | I believe that's incorrect. I think they do have protection. |
| 14:13.24 | bhima | Old versions did: http://www.microsoft.com/msj/0598/memory.aspx |
| 14:16.04 | cp15 | Hihi... Compare the virtual address space with http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelVirtualMemoryMapping |
| 14:16.39 | cp15 | The "Reserved Area" contains everything not in the normal virtual address space |
| 14:17.00 | cp15 | And haret can access everything, it does nothing special for it |
| 14:17.25 | cp15 | Just a phystovirt call to get the virtual address from a physical address |
| 14:18.36 | bhima | so it configures the system with protections for memory, but modifying those protections is an un-privileged operation? |
| 14:25.39 | cp15 | Seems so... There is a function SetKMode in haret, but the comment states WinCE is always in kernel mode. |
| 14:26.10 | bhima | well. That is better than not having memory protection. |
| 14:26.13 | bhima | but it is a bit strange. |
| 14:26.23 | cp15 | This makes drivers very easy. They can be implemented in a dll, no separate kernel interface required |
| 15:50.10 | cp15 | So, i have a little interaction between contacts and phone now: The phone is looking into contacts to get the name for a number, and you can dial a number from contacts |
| 15:52.42 | bhima | nifty. |
| 15:58.49 | cp15 | What do you think: Should a sms manager be integrated into the phone application, or should it be integrated into the mail app, and smses are occuring as a special mailbox? |
| 16:00.18 | bhima | I think that SMS and mail should be integrated into one app, but I think that SMS is different enough from mail that it's hard to properly integrate SMS into generic mail. |
| 16:01.39 | cp15 | Ah... The bluetooth person responded and told me the command to set the baud rate. He may also get a script for better powermanagement from TI |
| 16:02.22 | bhima | excellent. bluetooth audio is something I definitely want. |
| 16:02.44 | cp15 | Do you know a linux app which uses it? |
| 16:04.32 | bhima | Not really. There's some stuff to do BT audio as a system audio device. |
| 16:05.13 | cp15 | Ok, that would be a start. Do you have a link? |
| 16:07.15 | bhima | http://sourceforge.net/projects/bluetooth-alsa/ |
| 16:08.51 | bhima | http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/ is better. |
| 16:08.52 | cp15 | Ok, i think i will go offline now. Tomorrow I will visit rob, maybe I can offer hi speed bluetooth on wednesday. |
| 16:09.36 | bhima | ok. Say hi to rob for me :) |
| 16:10.28 | cp15 | Looks pretty easy from the instructions |
| 16:11.42 | cp15 | Do you have to "wakeup" the headset when you want to transmit audio? |
| 16:13.05 | bhima | Any "wakeup" stuff is done by those apps. |
| 16:17.49 | cp15 | I just noticed the clock of the ba is running too fast... Maybe the measurement error was more than 1% :-) |
| 16:18.57 | bhima | heh. |
| 16:24.48 | cp15 | So, I will leave now |
| 16:24.50 | cp15 | Bye |
| 16:24.55 | bhima | have fun. |
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| 22:10.10 | cp15 | Good evening |
| 22:21.23 | cp15 | And good night |
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