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| 07:58.50 | cp15 | Good morning |
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| 10:16.09 | rob_w | cp15, the video works ! |
| 10:19.18 | bhima | video works? |
| 10:20.21 | rob_w | the w100fb works for my lcd ! |
| 10:20.44 | rob_w | cp15 was abit unsure if he did implement all register from my ati |
| 10:21.54 | bhima | Accelerated framebuffer driver? |
| 10:22.29 | rob_w | not accelerated yet , but capable of suspend |
| 10:23.17 | bhima | ahh, ok. Didn't realize that the old one wasn't capable of suspend :) |
| 10:27.07 | cp15 | Well, it is not really accelerated, but it is the base for acceleration |
| 10:27.55 | cp15 | Ok, thats well. I found out yesterday how bluetooth works... I am currenty integrating it in a new kernel |
| 10:28.36 | bhima | Yeah. That sounds very good. |
| 10:28.52 | cp15 | But still limited to 115200 Baud |
| 10:29.06 | bhima | If the device is "moderately stable" under linux with wifi, I think I may be able to use it for a project demo in two weeks. |
| 10:29.39 | cp15 | But: Shouldn't it be enough for audio? ulaw or alaw at 8kHz should only take 64000 Baud |
| 10:29.57 | cp15 | 8 Bit values assumed |
| 10:30.00 | cp15 | and mono |
| 10:30.40 | cp15 | rob: Do you want to publish the diff, together with a new kernel binary and a new set of modules? |
| 10:31.45 | bhima | cp15: good question. I'm looking to see whether that's the case. |
| 10:32.52 | cp15 | You won't get a hifi feeling, but for the first try it should be ok |
| 10:36.08 | bhima | I haven't yet received my RS232 cables, and I just realized that my USB dock is in the office. Looks like I'll have to wait till Monday to hack at this. |
| 10:36.25 | bhima | I am going to be getting some stereo bluetooth headphones as well. They include piconet support. |
| 10:37.07 | cp15 | What is piconet for? |
| 10:37.21 | bhima | You can use them with two masters at once. |
| 10:37.36 | bhima | they support headset/handsfree as well as a2dp. |
| 10:38.27 | cp15 | a2dp? My knowledge about bluetooth seems to be a bit limited :-( |
| 10:38.39 | bhima | stereo. |
| 10:38.53 | bhima | but it's compressed. |
| 10:39.16 | bhima | so it feeds mp3, wma, something else that's not good but easy to compress, and there can be various device-specific formats too. |
| 10:40.46 | cp15 | Is the specification public? |
| 10:40.51 | bhima | Yes. |
| 10:40.55 | bhima | bluetooth.org :) |
| 10:41.00 | bhima | bluez supports it. |
| 10:41.10 | bhima | But stereo headsets are both uncommon and expensive. |
| 10:41.17 | bhima | and/or crappy. |
| 10:41.30 | cp15 | :-) |
| 10:41.31 | bhima | There are some issues with them, I believe some of them require timing issues. |
| 10:41.44 | bhima | Some of the drivers include some CPU speed-related looping bheaviour. |
| 10:42.47 | cp15 | Hmmm... So it is not really useable? |
| 10:43.10 | bhima | I don't know, not enough seems to be clearly written about it. :) |
| 10:43.22 | bhima | The headset I'm going to get has an external mic plug. |
| 10:43.39 | bhima | So that will let me do some nifty work-related stuff with it: we record audio in the environment around you and figure out what's going on. |
| 10:45.43 | bhima | But most headsets have microphones that don't work well for this. |
| 10:46.09 | cp15 | Like you put the microphone to a car engine, call the support and they tell you: The valves need adjustment? |
| 10:46.42 | bhima | Perhaps. What we do is figure out if you're indoors, outdoors, in a meeting, in a car, that sort of thing |
| 10:47.29 | cp15 | Only via microphone? Seems difficult to me |
| 10:48.04 | bhima | I didn't say it was easy. But we can do it for a couple environments. It is trained on the specific microphone right now. |
| 10:50.50 | cp15 | Do you think it is possible also with the built in microphone? A phone which goes to silent alarm in meetings, church, restaurant etc. would be really cool |
| 10:51.19 | bhima | If the phone is in your pocket, the acoustic environment is "inside a packet" :) |
| 10:51.38 | bhima | The noise of rubbing in your pocket will be louder than anything else. |
| 10:52.25 | cp15 | Actually not, it is a bit too big for the pocket, but I think you are right |
| 10:52.38 | bhima | I have pockets big enough for it. :P |
| 10:52.44 | bhima | I have pockets that will fit my Newton MessagePad. |
| 10:53.21 | cp15 | My pockets are already stuffed enough with purse, credit/debit/id cards, keys and other stuff |
| 10:53.51 | cp15 | And especially with the BA you have to be careful to not scratch the display |
| 10:54.02 | bhima | yeah. I never put it in a pocket with anything else. |
| 10:55.46 | rob_w | cp15, yeah will public them today at one point ,.. just had a crash after loading blueangel_pcmcia.. |
| 10:56.23 | rob_w | but maybe that was because the kernel pcmcia modules where already loaded ... i will test abit more .. |
| 10:56.39 | bhima | Will there be an image that boots to GPE and doesn't require a USB/serial dock? Cause then I can play with it today :) |
| 10:57.17 | rob_w | yeah , let me try to pack that also |
| 10:57.35 | rob_w | but prepare your sd to have 2 partitions where the 2nd is the ext2 |
| 10:58.01 | bhima | cool. SD, MMC, or doesn't matter? |
| 10:58.21 | rob_w | sd , i dont have mmc , ithink ? |
| 10:58.35 | bhima | ok. Seems like MMC is often first supported. |
| 10:58.48 | rob_w | brb after some more tests |
| 10:58.49 | cp15 | mmc should work also, but for performance reasons you should choose sd |
| 10:59.06 | bhima | brb. |
| 10:59.13 | rob_w | does yours have mmc ?? i only have one slot for sd |
| 10:59.28 | cp15 | It is the same slot |
| 10:59.59 | cp15 | mmc has the same form factor as sd, but one contact less |
| 11:00.48 | cp15 | correction: two |
| 11:10.59 | rob_w | aha |
| 11:11.24 | rob_w | well the unit crashes when having blueangel_pcmcia loaded then modprobe pcmcia |
| 11:12.28 | rob_w | i need to run ... i be back later the day |
| 11:12.45 | rob_w | will leave the pc running |
| 11:14.33 | cp15 | You have to load blueangel_pcmcia at last |
| 11:26.49 | rob_w | hmm |
| 11:30.36 | cp15 | Still crashing? If yes, can you give me a call trace? |
| 12:25.35 | rob_w | i will try to catch one ..but later |
| 12:31.32 | cp15 | No problem, I have to do some work for money now anyway |
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| 17:04.56 | rob_w | the xda-developers wiki gives me prolems |
| 17:26.28 | *** topic/#htc-blueangel by rob_w -> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelResearch **NEW 2.6.12-hh2-2 uploaded at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAnge SDCARD ** This site also carry`s a sdcard image ! |
| 17:27.02 | *** topic/#htc-blueangel by rob_w -> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelResearch **NEW 2.6.12-hh2-2 uploaded at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel SDCARD ** This site also carry`s a sdcard image ! |
| 17:32.38 | cp15 | Yes, it only delivers static pages |
| 17:32.52 | cp15 | Good work :-) |
| 17:34.50 | rob_w | still uploading the gpe-image |
| 17:35.24 | cp15 | How big is it? |
| 17:37.12 | rob_w | about 50 as bz |
| 17:42.02 | cp15 | Lets hope it hasn't to be changed too often |
| 17:48.01 | rob_w | well then u do the big uploads ! hehe |
| 17:48.22 | rob_w | i hope the wiki page edit does not expire unitl i am finished |
| 17:48.49 | rob_w | btw i used my initrd which is a hack of urs ... |
| 18:16.38 | rob_w | phue that takes really long |
| 18:17.27 | rob_w | how does the suspend work ? |
| 18:22.49 | rob_w | ok , done ,, everybody enjoy the sdcard powered blueangel |
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| 22:25.19 | immolo | Hey, have any of you guys tried the sdcard image? |
| 22:27.12 | immolo | as there is a few bugs with it |
| 22:32.16 | cp15 | Namely? |
| 22:32.38 | immolo | it untars in the wrong place |
| 22:32.48 | immolo | so it doesn't boot |
| 22:32.57 | immolo | permission problems |
| 22:33.05 | cp15 | Hmm... I will check |
| 22:33.31 | immolo | I've nearly fixed them all so I can post a revision if you like |
| 22:36.01 | cp15 | That would be really good |
| 22:36.55 | immolo | k, I'll to go change some stuff unless you want to login as immolo |
| 22:37.23 | immolo | damn my typing skills are getting worse |
| 22:38.38 | cp15 | Maybe you could also post a few instructions how to use it? |
| 22:39.56 | cp15 | From a short look at it I couldn't decide whether gpe-image or gpe-image/otheroot is the correct root |
| 23:40.22 | cp15 | I will go to bed now. Good night |