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| 07:13.35 | arvut | Good morning.. Does the Store app still work for you? I can't reach any of the pages it tries to display and I suspect the service has been shut down :( |
| 07:13.52 | arvut | on the N9, running Meego harmattan 1.3 with inception installed |
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| 07:21.02 | thomasez | arvut: The same day MS buys Nokia.. |
| 07:22.17 | thomasez | arvut: But it works for me. downloading a way too old Firefox to tst. |
| 07:22.30 | thomasez | N9, 1.3, no inception. |
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| 07:32.55 | thomasez | INstalling apps as a madman now, I presume the Store is history before the year has passed. |
| 07:48.05 | mschlens_ | and no decent replacement on the horizon... |
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| 08:16.15 | thomasez | mschlens_: well, I am crossing my fingers for Jolla. |
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| 08:20.41 | mschlens_ | I seriously hope they can pull it off proper. |
| 08:21.41 | thomasez | Games of bubble, "free" my ass. why does it want to go on Internet after I've burst five lines of bubbls. |
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| 08:53.27 | juiceme | RzR, what causes problems with encfs home is mounting/unmounting MyDocs partition. |
| 08:54.47 | juiceme | RzR, also tracker does not like encfs wrapped directories, and I suspect it is to do with a bug in the FUSE version that default PR1.3 kernel has. |
| 08:55.30 | juiceme | RzR, thanks for reminding me about it, I need to fix fuse and try it again some day :) |
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| 09:30.18 | CissWit | so, here it is, microsoft bought nokia : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23940171 |
| 09:31.42 | leinir | noooot... the best article BBC has ever written... but then, they're notoriously bad at that whole thing :P |
| 09:36.14 | RzR | juiceme, yes |
| 09:36.27 | RzR | juiceme, I tried to upgrade fuse tools, it's same |
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| 12:39.32 | Jonne|be | guess my n9 knew about the MS thing all along, and decided to crap out the day before |
| 12:44.34 | mgedmin | what, yours too??? |
| 12:45.16 | mgedmin | mine lost the ability to do 3G three days ago, the ability to browse over wifi two days ago, the ability to turn on yesterday |
| 12:45.42 | mgedmin | (that's a dramatized version; basically the power button is so worn out it won't register presses, so I can't turn it on/off/lock the screen by using it) |
| 12:45.53 | mgedmin | (I can turn the n9 on by plugging it to a PC via USB, which makes it boot) |
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| 12:47.49 | Jonne|be | on mine the /home partition set itself to readonly |
| 12:48.09 | Jonne|be | i've been told reflashing it would fix it, but i've been trying to back up my files first |
| 12:48.50 | Jonne|be | right now i can't take pictures any more and my address book and calendar is gone |
| 12:49.08 | Jonne|be | also skype is broken |
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| 12:52.34 | Jonne|be | and probably more stuff, never a good idea to have your os trying to write to a ro fs all the time |
| 12:53.30 | Jonne|be | how the hell did you wear out your power button? |
| 12:53.35 | rigo | mine works like charm :) |
| 12:53.54 | Jonne|be | the buttons on the n9 always seemed to be pretty sturdy to me |
| 12:53.59 | Jonne|be | unlike the little usb lid |
| 12:54.06 | rigo | and if you have trouble, put yourself on the waiting list ... ;-o |
| 12:54.29 | rigo | for the "unlike" I mean ... |
| 12:55.01 | Jonne|be | hopes it will still work until Jolla stuff is available |
| 12:55.19 | Jonne|be | if not it'll probably be nexus 4 and an ubuntu dual boot or something |
| 12:58.49 | rigo | I had Firefox OS in my hand recently. It is a valid replacement although not looking as nice |
| 12:59.28 | rigo | is also trying to get a Jolla if the N9 is worn out |
| 12:59.29 | thomasez | I can't make my apps in python with FirefoxOS :=) |
| 12:59.58 | Jonne|be | not sure if i want a web-only OS |
| 13:00.08 | thomasez | I'm sure I won't. |
| 13:00.15 | rigo | thomasez: FirefoxOS is webapps and W3C stuff, so python=> HTML+Javascript=>firefox OS |
| 13:00.16 | Jonne|be | i need offline maps at least, and i don't think web apps can do that |
| 13:00.30 | thomasez | got my Pepple working with libpebble on the N9. |
| 13:00.40 | rigo | Jonne|be: it works offline. Note that Jolla will not have maps AFAIK |
| 13:00.41 | thomasez | no idea if I can do the same on firefox os. |
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| 13:14.22 | chouchoune | rigo: why wouldn't they have maps ? |
| 13:15.55 | chouchoune | there's AT LEAST open source Android apps doing maps and navigation using openstreetmaps => compatible with Jolla (downloadable from F-Droid store so no need of Play Store) |
| 13:16.16 | chouchoune | and I'm sure they will have a maps provider, that would be nonsense if they don't have any |
| 13:16.24 | chouchoune | at least an openstreetmaps implementation |
| 13:16.47 | mgedmin | was waiting for Jolla, but since it's not ready, and my N9 is dead, ordered a Nexus 4 today |
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| 13:32.11 | Jonne|be | rigo, offline directions too? |
| 13:32.29 | Jonne|be | ie, can i download a country and look up places offline? |
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| 14:06.15 | rigo | everybody who has internet can have google maps. The question is offline maps. And this is a specific Nokia feature that nobody else has as Nokia acquired NavTeq some time ago |
| 14:07.34 | CissWit | https://support.google.com/gmm/answer/2650218?hl=en |
| 14:07.49 | rigo | I encouraged the Jolla-folks to go to Nokia and ask for offline maps. They said it will be difficult. But this may be different now |
| 14:08.11 | Jonne|be | openstreetmaps is decent enough, although i have no idea if its data lends itself to use for navigation |
| 14:09.12 | rigo | I think openstreetmap is great, but nobody cared to develop an offline version so far for mobile phones. |
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| 14:16.29 | rigo | offline googlemaps would then work with Jolla as Jolla can do android apps. |
| 14:17.20 | thomasez | I really hope we'll get/keep Nokia Map and drive for Jolla. |
| 14:18.03 | leinir | there is no "keep" |
| 14:18.09 | rigo | :) |
| 14:18.30 | leinir | you seem to still be thinking of jolla as the next version of the nokia n9, when that's a different company ;) |
| 14:18.33 | thomasez | Nja, Sailfish ain't that long way from Harmattan. |
| 14:18.42 | marsje | Jonne|be: I do a bit of openstreetmap editing and the information in OSM is quite detailed and could be perfectly used for navigation |
| 14:18.54 | leinir | entirely irrelevant, it still isn't Nokia :) |
| 14:19.06 | thomasez | To be honest I've been seeing Jolla as Nokiax exit strategy if the MS thingie failed. |
| 14:19.42 | leinir | it's not... it /is/ an exit strategy for the engineers, though :) |
| 14:19.44 | thomasez | But we can wonder what the agreement with MS is. |
| 14:20.01 | thomasez | we'll see. |
| 14:20.24 | Morpog_N9_ | i would be ok with a port from harmattan drive to sailfishos |
| 14:20.49 | Morpog_N9_ | not much effort for here guys |
| 14:21.03 | Morpog_N9_ | and all old nokia fans would buy it |
| 14:21.47 | leinir | i'd kind of like the new version more... which is also Qt based, and they've been showing it off in a variety of places... |
| 14:21.54 | leinir | maps and drive are showing their age |
| 14:22.25 | Morpog_N9_ | well, that would be fantastic, still i'm ok with old harmattan versions |
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| 14:33.39 | Jonne|be | marsje, i don't know much about GIS, but i assume you need data like speed limits and road type & driving direction to use it properly for navigation, does osm have this data? |
| 14:33.56 | Jonne|be | i guess it could be crowdsourced with a waze-type arrangement |
| 14:37.18 | marsje | Jonne|be: yes, it does, but of course it depends on the location how accurate it is |
| 14:37.52 | marsje | in some countries it's very accurate and detailed, in others there is almost nothing |
| 14:40.25 | marsje | if you go to openstreetmap.org, you can see the map, but you can also see the underlying data |
| 14:40.28 | marsje | e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.20881/4.44761&layers=D |
| 14:41.02 | marsje | (on the right side press the layer button and check "Map Data") |
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| 14:52.08 | Jonne|be | you bastard, sending me straight to borgerhout without a warning :p |
| 14:55.38 | Jonne|be | that is pretty detailed, so yeah, if someone wants to do the work it's totally doable |
| 15:00.41 | marsje | haha |
| 15:00.57 | marsje | there is already a routing engine that uses osm data |
| 15:01.36 | marsje | http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing |
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| 15:26.21 | eavila | prueba |
| 15:33.54 | eavila | amizraa, |
| 15:38.34 | Venemo_ | has anyone ever completed the Qt5 port to harmattan? |
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| 18:30.56 | juiceme | coderus, ping |
| 18:31.51 | juiceme | coderus, I just updated info on freshly compiled kernel-plus image with ExFAT support on TMO... |
| 18:31.58 | juiceme | coderus, see post http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1371757#post1371757 |
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