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| 15:06.19 | yunta_ | hh |
| 15:06.29 | yunta_ | oops |
| 15:06.42 | merlin1991 | hh ... harmattan? |
| 15:07.06 | yunta_ | :) |
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| 15:23.36 | thedead1440 | coderus: ping |
| 15:24.17 | thedead1440 | coderus: try this for the first time to boot into Harmattan via telnet: mount /mnt/2 |
| 15:24.19 | thedead1440 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.20 | thedead1440 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.09 | thedead1440 | you should get "0" from the boot menu selection |
| 15:25.37 | thedead1440 | and the second line should boot things fine; after the first time you don't need to do this again for it to work properly |
| 15:27.03 | thedead1440 | also use nitdroid's preinit for harmattan instead of juiceme's preinit |
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| 15:32.25 | coderus | thedead1440: pong |
| 15:33.03 | thedead1440 | coderus: try what i mentioned; for first time boot using ubiboot do it via telnet |
| 15:33.15 | thedead1440 | after that things are always stable |
| 15:33.25 | coderus | thedead1440: how it related to me? :) |
| 15:33.48 | thedead1440 | you posted on TMO you had bme issue right? try to do via telnet |
| 15:34.30 | coderus | thedead1440: not me, my friend. i'll think how to tell him to use telnet. not sure in experience. |
| 15:34.42 | thedead1440 | ah |
| 15:37.41 | coderus | thedead1440: maybe any modification to init to do it? |
| 15:38.43 | thedead1440 | coderus: not sure but personally when i first tried booting all 3 OSes i got blank screens. Doing it via telnet for first boot made things work and subsequent boot-ups i've had no issues |
| 15:41.26 | thedead1440 | ...so based on that modifying init is not something i think is really required... |
| 15:44.49 | coderus | thedead1440: just to make changes in harmattan, if booted normally remove changes |
| 15:47.40 | thedead1440 | coderus: hmm yeah maybe for first boot. It can be posted on TMO too for people facing issues or in the README. |
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| 17:29.12 | xavinux | Hi people, I am new here. Own a Nokia N9 and have knowledge of Linux, Would like to know if I can be usefull |
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| 17:51.45 | ladoga | hi xavi |
| 17:52.10 | xavinux | hi ladoga how are you |
| 17:55.13 | ladoga | and welcome :) |
| 17:55.31 | ladoga | are you familiar with maemo.org forums? |
| 17:56.13 | ladoga | maybe look there and see if you find something interesting |
| 18:00.18 | xavinux | hi people, how are younothing to do here? someone from maemo sent me here |
| 18:00.56 | ajalkane | We doing cool. How about you? |
| 18:01.32 | ajalkane | Nowadays I think we mostly just chill here. Doing nothing and stuff. |
| 18:02.56 | ladoga | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.59 | ajalkane | You should have been here 1.5 years ago. Man, this place was on fire. Daily bitchfest about aegis. Now we just roll with it on our rocking chairs. |
| 18:04.46 | xavinux | sorry I was not here before |
| 18:06.13 | ajalkane | It's never too late to start a bitchfest about aegis though. It's still entertaining after all these years. |
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| 18:07.35 | ladoga | except now many are using openmode...so it's kind of irrelevant |
| 18:07.56 | ladoga | but bitching about nokia's failures never gets old |
| 18:10.21 | xavinux | I understand. And what you think about the MER and TIZEN Projects, is the sucesor of Meego? |
| 18:11.01 | wmarone_ | Tizen is Bada with a Linux core |
| 18:11.39 | wmarone_ | Mer/Sailfish is the real MeeGo/Maemo successor, given who is behind it. What will become of it depends on the course Jolla decides to take. |
| 18:11.55 | ajalkane | ^ what he said. Tizen is boring. |
| 18:12.18 | wmarone_ | tizen was interesting, at least initially |
| 18:12.31 | ajalkane | I don't remember such time. |
| 18:12.31 | wmarone_ | but I have no faith in Samsung's software abilities even if they do hire people like Rasterman |
| 18:13.09 | wmarone_ | and with the big push of the Bada APIs into Tizen 2.0, I suspect that the linux-ness of the platform will be subdued in favor of Bada, something Samsung has much more control over. |
| 18:13.40 | ajalkane | As far as I remember, Tizen was always "HTML5 FTW" and native APIs suck |
| 18:13.55 | wmarone_ | They were but it was inevitable that would change |
| 18:14.29 | wmarone_ | there was no hope for them to force the issue, Javascript still doesn't have the performance |
| 18:14.42 | wmarone_ | and Tizen 2.0 finally added native apps. |
| 18:14.53 | ajalkane | So now it's HTML5 FTW and Bada APIs rocks for native API? |
| 18:15.06 | wmarone_ | apparently |
| 18:15.19 | wmarone_ | not EFL, which was what kept people's attention |
| 18:15.20 | ajalkane | The lengths they go to avoid using Qt... :P |
| 18:16.08 | ajalkane | EFL could have been interesting if it was truly supported native API. |
| 18:16.22 | wmarone_ | right, and everyone thought it would be |
| 18:16.30 | wmarone_ | then the Bada APIs came along, and well... |
| 18:16.47 | wmarone_ | great way to kill interest! |
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| 18:17.11 | ajalkane | I knew they were using heavily EFL in the background, but all the talk they gave had me sceptical it'd be directly supported native API |
| 18:17.13 | wmarone_ | Tizen as a whole isn't very open, either. It has too much of the top-down mindset that is typical for Samsung. |
| 18:17.44 | wmarone_ | if you're a 3rd party that wants an open platform to leverage, Mer is way, way better as an option. |
| 18:18.21 | ajalkane | Yeah it seems just very controlled platform that you can't influence in anyway. So there's no motivation for an enthusiast for trying to contribute to it |
| 18:20.36 | xavinux | ok I agree |
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| 18:22.27 | wmarone_ | speaking of open mode, I need to move my N9 to that |
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| 18:40.51 | ladoga | wmarone_: here are steps I used http://raspi.dy.fi/ladoga/harmattan/docs/openmode.txt |
| 18:41.02 | wmarone_ | ty |
| 18:42.53 | ladoga | though it's good to browse through all threads on TMO about it even if lenghty and sometimes confusing |
| 18:43.54 | wmarone_ | yup |
| 18:44.18 | wmarone_ | I figure open mode will suffice until Nemo becomes a fully capable replacement |
| 18:44.27 | wmarone_ | and I get my hands on whatever Jolla releases. |
| 18:44.45 | ladoga | for example some more knowledgeable people than me advice against removing aegis mounts |
| 18:45.04 | wmarone_ | makes sense |
| 18:45.15 | wmarone_ | I suspect some of the user space expects them to be there |
| 18:45.36 | ladoga | though i haven't experienced any adverse effects |
| 18:46.03 | ladoga | yes |
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| 18:49.22 | ladoga | I haven't installed many apps. GPS works and I haven't seen increased battery drain (stable 3mA average idle on energy saving mode) |
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| 18:51.35 | ladoga | so circa 16days idle uptime on one charge. no apps crashing or going unresponsive either |
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| 18:53.38 | ladoga | but there's not much (if anything) to gain by removing them |
| 18:53.48 | ladoga | so better safe than sorry i'd say |
| 18:54.40 | ladoga | them* aegis mounts |
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| 19:00.09 | jabis | reflashed my niner - still no camera - bahhh only if I could back to previous firmware -.- |
| 19:01.43 | jabis | camera-ui bitched once about not having enough diskspace on /home/user/.omap3 something - and the file actually isn't there - when the camera fires up properly - the file is there with 0600 only permission as user:metadata |
| 19:06.34 | jabis | (ps. full reflash 1.1GB used out of the 2GB, so ye there is room to create files) |
| 19:10.38 | jabis | ok - the issue is generated after system touches a user:metadata file in /home/user/.qcamera <- removing this file enables the camera-ui to start again |
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| 22:38.44 | jabis | ... Mar 21 23:42:40 (2013) aegisfs: aegis_storage.cpp(2776): ERROR Cannot open '/home/user/.aegis/ps/.e/2RFwlFJa9JWx5RYBmv2dCraFJ6g.dats' (No space left on device) |
| 22:38.53 | jabis | what is this sourcery |
| 22:40.14 | jabis | Mar 22 00:39:50 (2013) kernel: [ 3576.198760] Aegis: cannot measure file orcexec.L3Av4e (process: camera-ui) |
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