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| 02:13.04 | wmarone | so |
| 02:13.20 | wmarone | now to convert my arabic N9 from Kuwait to an english phone |
| 02:17.45 | GeneralAntilles | Send it to a West Coast liberal arts school for a year? |
| 02:18.09 | wmarone | good, it can commute |
| 02:18.33 | bluefox | if you haven't updated to 1.3, that would be the easiest way |
| 02:18.41 | wmarone | bluefox: yeah, looking into that now |
| 02:19.01 | bluefox | just flash the generic EU firmware and you're good to go |
| 02:19.14 | bluefox | just keep in mind, you can only go up in firmware versions...it's a bit silly |
| 02:19.20 | wmarone | right |
| 02:19.30 | wmarone | I'm just going to all the way forward |
| 02:19.32 | bluefox | different regional variants can have higher version numbers |
| 02:19.52 | wmarone | I guess I should boot it up and see what's on it |
| 02:20.02 | bluefox | would be a good start |
| 02:21.49 | wmarone | oh good, it came up in English |
| 02:22.24 | bluefox | oh, first time turning it on?...yeah, you can select the language then |
| 02:22.51 | wmarone | yup |
| 02:23.09 | wmarone | this will let me give the Nexus One back to its rightful owners |
| 02:23.22 | bluefox | if you don't have a carrier branded version, should be all set then |
| 02:24.07 | wmarone | clean as a whistle |
| 02:24.24 | bluefox | well, enjoy then :) |
| 02:24.24 | wmarone | oh |
| 02:24.28 | wmarone | it's already running PR1.3 |
| 02:24.56 | bluefox | not unexpected |
| 02:29.02 | wmarone | well, time to start undermining Aegis :) |
| 02:29.34 | bluefox | have fun :P |
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| 20:59.40 | sdx23 | hi. How would I install the CACert root-certificate? I tried the certificate manager, which wont let me enable it for websites. |
| 21:05.00 | Jonni | sdx23: if you have incepted capas/allcapa opensh, then you can use acmcli commandline command to add and revoke certificates |
| 21:06.34 | sdx23 | Jonni: had tried that, even thoug no opensh. It refused with "Permission denied". |
| 21:07.18 | sdx23 | In the meanwhile I stumbled over /var/lib/aegis/ps/Ss containing certman.ssl-ca with wierd owner/group - deleting it (as user, not root) works fine. |
| 21:07.26 | Jonni | well you kinda need opensh, since by default incepted shell doesnt offer enough capas, unless you run that some other command |
| 21:07.44 | Jonni | like if you want to remove the few weeks ago compromised certificate you would run: |
| 21:07.50 | Jonni | opensh -c "acmcli -C aegis-certman-common-ca::CertCACommonAdd -lc common-ca -r d937b34e05fdd9cf9f1216aeb6892feb253a881c" |
| 21:08.46 | sdx23 | ah, I didn't have any cacert certificates installed. Just wanted to use git without disabling ssl-verify. |
| 21:09.14 | Jonni | if you touch var/lib/aegis files by hand then you might end up in a situation that device stops booting, so acmcli is the right way |
| 21:10.01 | sdx23 | too late now (even though I did backup that file). But thanks for the warning, I'll reboot just to be sure. |
| 21:13.02 | sdx23 | seems to be fine. Thanks for your help. |
| 21:14.24 | sdx23 | Ah, what I was searching as well: Is there some kind of comfortably showing the current IP of the wlan interface? Perhaps in the menu showing wlan, bluetooth, availability? |
| 21:15.16 | Jonni | basicly for adding you would use something like this: opensh -c "acmcli -C aegis-certman-common-ca::CertCACommonAdd -lc common-ca -a CACert_root_certificate_that_you_want_to_add.pem" |
| 21:16.16 | Jonni | in commandline you can do: ifconfig wlan0 to show the ip, or you can install "IP Address" widget from tmo which shows wlan+3g+usb ip numbers on the grid when you click it |
| 21:18.54 | GeneralAntilles | I like how Tracker doesn't index saved files |
| 21:19.05 | GeneralAntilles | so you can only access images taken with the camera. |
| 21:20.37 | ZogG_laptop | Jonni: hey |
| 21:20.40 | sdx23 | I know about the cli way, but well, wanted something more comfortable. Your suggestion seems fine, I'm looking it up right now, thx. |
| 21:21.13 | ZogG_laptop | Jonni: may i ask you some stupid questions as always :) |
| 21:21.20 | Jonni | ZogG_laptop: sure |
| 21:22.23 | ZogG_laptop | Jonni: i decided to try to use qoauth |
| 21:23.00 | ZogG_laptop | but never worked with qsettings |
| 21:23.11 | ZogG_laptop | i should use it to save data right? |
| 21:23.16 | ZogG_laptop | or other way? |
| 21:25.08 | Jonni | I've never used QOAuth so can really help you on that. But you can look for example hints from https://github.com/gorthauer/ubuntu-one-qml/blob/master/qmlbinding/auth.cpp that looks to be using qoauth and qsettings together |
| 21:25.52 | ZogG_laptop | it's in qml i think |
| 21:26.16 | Jonni | thats c++ bindings to qml side, so you can ignore qml parts and look the c++ parts |
| 21:27.07 | Jonni | that file is c++ auth part, the qml part is in qmlbinding.cpp for that project. |
| 21:27.32 | ZogG_laptop | the point is not qoauth it self but qsettings |
| 21:27.55 | ZogG_laptop | wondering how if i can save token |
| 21:28.13 | ZogG_laptop | i mean tht people can't just get it |
| 21:28.37 | Jonni | ZogG_laptop: sure you can in auth.cpp constructor reads the token from the settings. |
| 21:28.58 | ZogG_laptop | yeah but it would be accessible from outside of app |
| 21:29.55 | Jonni | yes, that implementation is not secure, thats why there is comment //TODO use encrypted storage instead, so in N9 you could use aegis storage path instead of the default path |
| 21:30.22 | ZogG_laptop | i want to make library so i would use it not only on harmattan |
| 21:30.25 | ZogG_laptop | bb10 |
| 21:30.28 | ZogG_laptop | desktop |
| 21:30.36 | ZogG_laptop | and maybe jolla one day :) |
| 21:32.33 | Jonni | ZogG_laptop: in that case you can use QSettings together with SimpleCrypt http://qt-project.org/wiki/Simple_encryption or openssl |
| 21:33.10 | ZogG_laptop | Jonni: ok |
| 21:33.14 | ZogG_laptop | thanks for advice |
| 21:33.41 | Jonni | fir security you should link against openssl and store tokens in encrypted form in qsettings, like using 256bit blowfish or something. |
| 21:33.45 | Jonni | for |
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| 21:36.50 | ZogG_laptop | that actually would be smart :) |
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| 21:58.12 | GeneralAntilles | Anybody have a mirror for gallerybugx? |
| 21:58.26 | GeneralAntilles | http://stwoowerks.cixx6.com/xtra/gallerybugx_0.0.1_armel.deb is down |
| 22:04.05 | GeneralAntilles | thedead1440, ping? |
| 22:06.40 | GeneralAntilles | Nevermind, found it: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1247962&postcount=137 |
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| 22:12.09 | ZogG_laptop | what is it ? |
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| 22:19.33 | GeneralAntilles | ZogG_laptop, fixes a Tracker bug. |
| 22:19.45 | GeneralAntilles | Evidently |
| 22:19.56 | GeneralAntilles | I can see saved images in Gallery again |
| 22:23.36 | ZogG_laptop | i followed some stuid advice in forum and lost data :) |
| 22:23.41 | ZogG_laptop | now would know about app |
| 22:27.44 | GeneralAntilles | Love stupid forum advice. |
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| 22:34.23 | ZogG_laptop | GeneralAntilles: it was do that (deletes the data) and only in the end disclaimer what it does :) |
| 22:34.34 | ZogG_laptop | so i reset tracker :( |
| 22:34.42 | ZogG_laptop | bef0rd: sup |
| 22:34.55 | bef0rd | ZogG_laptop: hai |
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| 22:43.04 | ZogG_laptop | bef0rd: howdy? |
| 22:51.20 | bef0rd | just got home, working at a customer office :/ |
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| 23:15.37 | pa | question about encription and qsettings |
| 23:15.54 | pa | if i store stuff encrypted in qsettings.. where should i store the key? |
| 23:16.10 | pa | i mean, should i hardcode it in the app? not really secure, right? |
| 23:16.14 | pa | what are the alternatives? |
| 23:16.27 | bef0rd | for harmattan? |
| 23:16.30 | bef0rd | aegis storage I think |
| 23:16.51 | bef0rd | user can't modify values there unless he uses openmode I believe |
| 23:16.59 | bef0rd | but I have no idea how to use it |
| 23:17.02 | bef0rd | :) |
| 23:17.14 | pa | bef0rd, no i mean, like ZogG_laptop was asking |
| 23:17.20 | pa | meaning in a portable way |
| 23:17.29 | bef0rd | ah couldn't see it |
| 23:17.56 | pa | Jonni was suggesting simplecrypt |
| 23:18.10 | pa | but i see it works with symmetric encryption |
| 23:18.22 | pa | meaning the key has to be available to the algo somehow |
| 23:27.06 | pa | i think, to be portable, one needs to hardcode the key |
| 23:28.00 | ZogG_laptop | pa: the problem if it is open source |
| 23:28.26 | pa | well, also if it is closed, i guess |
| 23:28.29 | ZogG_laptop | i think the best way is to use something like md5 |
| 23:28.38 | pa | im no expert, but i think some good cracker could find it in no time |
| 23:28.51 | ZogG_laptop | everything is breakable :) |
| 23:28.56 | pa | ZogG_laptop, md5 is good to *verify* the password |
| 23:29.05 | ZogG_laptop | to store it |
| 23:29.07 | pa | you cant use it to "use" the password/key |
| 23:29.16 | ZogG_laptop | it is used in most forums to store in database |
| 23:29.19 | pa | yes |
| 23:29.24 | ZogG_laptop | only few sites resend you password |
| 23:29.26 | pa | you cant use md5 to encrypt data |
| 23:29.37 | bef0rd | insecure sites will send you plain text passwords |
| 23:29.42 | bef0rd | bad practice |
| 23:29.43 | ZogG_laptop | others use md5 so even admin or owner can't know your password |
| 23:30.01 | pa | yes, but here we are talking about encryption |
| 23:30.20 | ZogG_laptop | right i need to read it back :) |
| 23:30.28 | pa | we want to store something encrypted into qsettings |
| 23:30.35 | pa | and be able to decrypt it back |
| 23:30.38 | ZogG_laptop | so anything i apply can be used by other people |
| 23:30.50 | bef0rd | what are you going to store ZogG_laptop? |
| 23:30.58 | ZogG_laptop | bef0rd: tokens |
| 23:31.03 | bef0rd | oh |
| 23:31.07 | pa | then you cant use md5 |
| 23:31.12 | bef0rd | well I hardcoded it |
| 23:31.13 | ZogG_laptop | yeah i got it |
| 23:31.15 | bef0rd | in the program |
| 23:31.15 | bef0rd | :/ |
| 23:31.20 | bef0rd | pockeego |
| 23:31.20 | ZogG_laptop | didnt think straight :) |
| 23:31.36 | ZogG_laptop | bef0rd: but it is opensource right? |
| 23:31.40 | pa | i have a simple portable 3DES class, if you need it |
| 23:31.51 | pa | i should clean it, tho |
| 23:32.21 | pa | and i should probably extend to 5DES : )) |
| 23:34.59 | bef0rd | I wouldn't worry about tokens though |
| 23:35.19 | bef0rd | most sites allow you to discard and get new ones (getpocket.com does) |
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| 23:37.07 | bef0rd | but if you don't want to share it on the github code you can always create a file with the token and don't commit that file? |
| 23:37.15 | bef0rd | or commit a dummy file without the token |
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