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| 00:24.59 | juiceme | Did some further testing now... yes, it looks like that NOLO overrides the command line given as the config option. |
| 00:25.37 | juiceme | I did not find what option to set to make the kernel discard the given command line? |
| 00:30.16 | juiceme | aa. is it "CONFIG_CMDLINE_OVERRIDE" ? |
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| 00:42.09 | juiceme | no. The behaviour is exactly same even as I added "CONFIG_CMDLINE_OVERRIDE=y" |
| 00:44.16 | juiceme | And now as I looked at it a bit, it seems to be available only from 2.6.36–>onwards. |
| 00:45.42 | juiceme | so it looks like I have to patch 2.6.32 by hand if I want to fix this... |
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| 19:47.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: signature across firmware is what allows flashing the the fiasco to a particular device |
| 19:47.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: aiui |
| 19:49.16 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 19:50.39 | SpeedEvil | so depending on the delivered keys on production devices, especially if regionalised, may need lots. |
| 19:51.41 | SpeedEvil | or the firmwares may not install on a randomly picked device |
| 19:54.24 | SpeedEvil | how many terabytes was the total of firmwares? |
| 19:57.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2+ |
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| 19:59.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I feel somewhat silly to backup this huge amount of almost identical cruft for Nokia |
| 20:00.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | so.. |
| 20:00.36 | juiceme | gigabytes are cheap nowdays :) |
| 20:01.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | [general notice] If you haven't updated to most recent harmattan firmware release, take care of keeping a copy of the "obolete" firmware you need for reflashing |
| 20:02.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo council and board might not be able to migrate all existing harmattan firmware images to new servers |
| 20:02.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | juiceme: orly? also on hosting? |
| 20:03.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | we're not talking about the USB external HDD next to your laptop |
| 20:08.54 | SpeedEvil | well, unless you have unlimited transfer :-) |
| 20:09.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87815 and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88031&page=6 and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1303767 is what we're talking about here |
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| 20:23.34 | juiceme | yes, of course hosating costs something, but the costs have gone down a lot the last few years |
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| 20:25.24 | juiceme | so that's about 2TB total, right? |
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| 20:36.38 | SpeedEvil | 2tb, ideally on some form of service that will not go down if one person loads interest, or gets hit by a bus |
| 20:42.29 | juiceme | So are we talking about the emmc.bin & firmware.bin images or what? This is a bit unclear to me still... |
| 20:42.58 | SpeedEvil | yes |
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| 20:43.32 | juiceme | Because, are all the local variants really needed, would it not be enough just to have the unbranded variants for PR1.1, PR1.2 & PR1.3 ? |
| 20:44.13 | juiceme | I mean, who is using some obscure carrier-branded images anyway? |
| 20:44.46 | pa | those who didnt know, and updgraded OTA till 1.3? |
| 20:45.01 | juiceme | a, waitaminute, ofcourse there are thr maps for each area |
| 20:45.47 | juiceme | but I isn't it still possible to flash to unbranded PR1.3 from a branded PR1.3? |
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| 20:49.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 20:50.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | same as downgrading which also isn't possible |
| 20:50.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and 2TB on a dedicated server are already some $$ each month |
| 20:50.41 | njsf | I once was able to flash from a branded Singapore PR1.1 to a ROW PR 1.1 |
| 20:50.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the storage alone |
| 20:52.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, for backup it would be favorable to get all that's available, but we won't do that most probably for "obsolete" versions, since downgrade isn't possible anyway |
| 20:53.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | so if *anybody* out there still on an 'obsolete' PR version, they are kindly requested to keep their local copy for reflashing, since the 'official' firmware might disappear |
| 20:54.16 | njsf | My hosting plan is unlimited storage + bandwidth (on a shared host) |
| 20:54.22 | juiceme | well yes, as long as downgrading does not work that makes sense. Altough, just in case it becomes possible it might be wise to store all the versions privately. |
| 20:54.29 | njsf | But I haven't tried hosting a couple of Tera there ;) |
| 20:54.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | unlimited storage HAHA |
| 20:54.57 | juiceme | like, 2TB HDD costs about 100£ anyways... |
| 20:55.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, just 20£ - PER MONTH |
| 20:55.53 | juiceme | njsf, how much is unlimited? on carrier lingo it might well be 10MB or so :) |
| 20:56.52 | njsf | For my host plan, it really should be unlimited |
| 20:57.03 | njsf | BUT I have not "abused" it yet |
| 20:57.18 | njsf | so I don't know if throttling or other things could be applied to the shared host |
| 20:57.48 | juiceme | well usually they will come up with all sorts of funny excuses if you start carrying REALLY heavy traffic.. |
| 20:58.27 | njsf | I know, that is why I won't count on much for it |
| 20:58.44 | njsf | but I guess for a mirror of a big archive I guess it could be used |
| 20:59.02 | njsf | of course, of the Nokia images they could have a legitimate reason to terminate the account |
| 20:59.13 | njsf | since they are not exactly "public domain" |
| 20:59.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | traffic is usually limited at some 2..20TB/month - depending on carrier you can book higher limits for additional bucks, or you accept 10% of bandwidth when tripping the limit (same as for 3G dataplans etc) |
| 21:01.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | on Hetzner for example you got bandwidth 100Mb which goes down to 10Mb permanently once tripped the 10TB/month limit |
| 21:03.43 | njsf | Yeah, I don't know the specifics for dreamhost |
| 21:03.57 | njsf | It does not affect me really at this point ;) |
| 21:06.30 | njsf | Ah found it |
| 21:06.47 | njsf | Here are some specific examples of things not allowed: |
| 21:06.47 | njsf | Copyrighted content to which you do not hold usage or distribution rights. |
| 21:06.47 | njsf | File upload / sharing / archive / backup / mirroring / distribution sites. |
| 21:07.05 | njsf | So hosting those files would not be allowed in "unlimited" |
| 21:16.52 | floholl | Hi all, I fail to register any SIP accounts on my Nokia N9 under a standard DSL connection. Pretty sure settings are all ok. Any knowledge of N9-specific SIP issues? |
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| 22:48.02 | juiceme | Hiya Hurrian, ya there? |
| 22:48.22 | juiceme | still struggling wit the ubifs root fs |
| 22:49.47 | juiceme | Patched 2.6.32.54 with commandline override, and now it is possible to actually make it mount root to wherever I want it to. |
| 22:50.40 | juiceme | however, as a result it just won't boot at all when I try to force it to go to /dev/mtd4 |
| 22:52.27 | juiceme | I created a rootfs there by "/usr/sbin/ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 4 ; mount -t ubifs ubi0:var /root/tp_mount" and copied whole content of my initramfs there. |
| 22:52.42 | juiceme | I tried these as kernel command line; |
| 22:53.00 | juiceme | "init=/init ubi.mtd=4 root=ubi0:var rootfstype=ubifs rw console=ttyS0,115200n8 omap3_die_id" |
| 22:53.11 | juiceme | "init=/init ubi.mtd=4 root=/dev/mtd4 rootfstype=ubifs rw console=ttyS0,115200n8 omap3_die_id" |
| 22:53.22 | juiceme | but neither of them work... |
| 22:54.04 | Hurrian | juiceme, here |
| 22:54.48 | Hurrian | hmm |
| 22:55.10 | Hurrian | do you have the init script at /init, and is its dependencies satisfied? |
| 22:55.16 | juiceme | When I boot the kernel I am using with command line override off, so that it boots the "normal" way as mmblck2 root device I can access the UBI devices correctly so I damn well konw my kernel options are correct... |
| 22:55.37 | juiceme | yes, as far as I have checked it |
| 22:55.46 | Hurrian | hmm |
| 22:55.49 | juiceme | the init script is faurly simple |
| 22:55.55 | Hurrian | UBIFS=y? |
| 22:56.06 | juiceme | it just displays a text on the screen and kicks off telnetd |
| 22:56.11 | juiceme | yeah |
| 22:57.05 | Hurrian | hmm, lemme check something. |
| 22:57.50 | juiceme | I have been trying to model this with the few ubifs root documents found off google, mostly they are about wlanbox configuration etc.. |
| 22:58.56 | juiceme | config looks like this; |
| 22:59.01 | juiceme | [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: /usr/src/kernel-2.6.32] > grep _UBI .config |
| 22:59.01 | juiceme | CONFIG_MTD_UBI=y |
| 22:59.01 | juiceme | CONFIG_MTD_UBI_WL_THRESHOLD=4096 |
| 22:59.01 | juiceme | CONFIG_MTD_UBI_BEB_RESERVE=1 |
| 22:59.01 | juiceme | CONFIG_MTD_UBI_GLUEBI=y |
| 22:59.04 | juiceme | CONFIG_MTD_UBI_DEBUG=y |
| 22:59.06 | juiceme | CONFIG_UBIFS_FS=y |
| 22:59.08 | juiceme | # CONFIG_UBIFS_FS_XATTR is not set |
| 22:59.11 | juiceme | # CONFIG_UBIFS_FS_ADVANCED_COMPR is not set |
| 22:59.13 | juiceme | CONFIG_UBIFS_FS_LZO=y |
| 22:59.16 | juiceme | CONFIG_UBIFS_FS_ZLIB=y |
| 22:59.18 | juiceme | CONFIG_UBIFS_FS_DEBUG=y |
| 22:59.26 | Hurrian | you may need to specify some crap passed by NOLO too |
| 22:59.28 | Hurrian | http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/MTD_CMDLINE_PARTS.html |
| 22:59.41 | juiceme | aaa. |
| 22:59.49 | juiceme | did not think abou that |
| 22:59.57 | juiceme | it figures... |
| 22:59.59 | Hurrian | except for the ones involving serial numbers. |
| 23:00.27 | juiceme | so I need to combine my cmdline with the NOLO-given line + the UBI stuff... |
| 23:00.29 | Hurrian | I'd try specifying mtdparts= first though |
| 23:00.41 | juiceme | hokay. |
| 23:00.45 | juiceme | will try that |
| 23:02.50 | juiceme | what's the "mtdparts=omap2-onenand:1024k(bootloader),2816k@1024k(config),16384k@3840k(kernel),2048k@20224k(log),469248k@22272k(var),32768k@491520k(moslo)" for anyway? |
| 23:03.37 | juiceme | might it be kernel does not recognize memory correctly without it? |
| 23:04.05 | Hurrian | that's practically the NAND's partition table. |
| 23:04.25 | Hurrian | DON'T make a mistake copying it to the kconfig, as you will mess up the data on the flash doing so. |
| 23:04.30 | juiceme | as it says "469248k@22272k(var)" |
| 23:04.43 | juiceme | ok. |
| 23:05.06 | juiceme | well it'l be ro anyway at boot, right? |
| 23:05.09 | Hurrian | on the bright side, it can be used to repartition the flash, should we not need that moslo partition. |
| 23:05.30 | Hurrian | juiceme, that depends on the cmdline ;) |
| 23:05.39 | juiceme | okay |
| 23:06.39 | Hurrian | 469248k@22272k(var) = size@offset (from 0), name |
| 23:08.57 | juiceme | allright, now it's compiling |
| 23:09.06 | juiceme | awfully long cmdline :) |
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| 23:10.43 | juiceme | now flashing... keep fingers crossed :) |
| 23:12.43 | juiceme | nah... just managed to get it to reboot loop :( |
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| 23:21.33 | Hurrian | Oh, do you have a watchdog kicker? |
| 23:22.57 | juiceme | it's being handled with initscript |
| 23:23.01 | Hurrian | ah |
| 23:23.06 | juiceme | if it ever got so far... |
| 23:25.08 | juiceme | HURRAA |
| 23:25.17 | Hurrian | ? |
| 23:25.20 | juiceme | Got the beast to boot up |
| 23:25.22 | juiceme | !! |
| 23:25.23 | Hurrian | ooh. |
| 23:25.25 | Hurrian | How? |
| 23:25.26 | juiceme | :) |
| 23:25.53 | juiceme | well last time I inserted the whole shebang kilometer long init line |
| 23:26.11 | Hurrian | including the device serials? |
| 23:26.11 | juiceme | now I trimmed it up just to UBI+mtdparts |
| 23:26.14 | Hurrian | ah. |
| 23:26.23 | juiceme | nah, left those off now |
| 23:26.40 | Hurrian | juiceme: and it should, unless every user would have to build their own kernel ;) |
| 23:26.42 | juiceme | I am online with it |
| 23:26.52 | juiceme | beautibul, thanks a LOT! |
| 23:26.59 | juiceme | yes |
| 23:27.02 | Hurrian | And so begins the work on the biggest initrd anyone has ever seen. |
| 23:27.18 | juiceme | that stuff is to be added from the cmdline.txt at later stage |
| 23:27.31 | juiceme | :) |
| 23:29.43 | Hurrian | with some work, cmdline from nolo can be saved into a procfs entry, and called by the kexec script as $DEVICE_IMEI, etc. |
| 23:29.50 | Hurrian | but this'll work. |
| 23:29.52 | juiceme | I just wonder why it choked on the longer cmdline... |
| 23:30.04 | juiceme | yes. |
| 23:30.20 | Hurrian | Oh, and reportedly, the Patched Open Mode Harmattan kernels can boot via kexec. |
| 23:30.27 | Hurrian | Try it with the NITDroid kernel. |
| 23:30.43 | juiceme | Like, currently I patched the kernel to just NOT strncpy() the given line to cmdline |
| 23:31.07 | juiceme | I can easily create a new proc entry for "original_cmdline" or whatever |
| 23:32.31 | juiceme | as long as this "my-moslo-kernel" is used just as a bootstrap kernel to load up further images via kexec() I can put whatever thingies I feel like to it... |
| 23:33.07 | juiceme | have to thest the kexec() of openmode kernel next. |
| 23:38.50 | juiceme | Here is the proof ; http://www.swagman.org/juice/dmesg_from_ubiboot_device.txt |
| 23:52.40 | juiceme | Well, at least now I could not kexec() to nitdroid kernel. Have to see what's hazy about it... |