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| 00:57.58 | kstar | Hi. I'm trying to read the accelerometers in the N9. |
| 00:58.08 | kstar | I'm using QtMobility's QRotationReading. |
| 00:58.23 | kstar | Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to get better accuracy than 1 degree... |
| 00:58.44 | kstar | Is it possible to get better accuracy, or is it a hardware limitation? |
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| 01:31.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | rotaton is a derived value, accelerometer doesn't deliver rotation values |
| 01:32.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW it's quite probably a limitation in the API definition of QRotationReading |
| 01:35.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | try QAccelerometer |
| 01:36.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | those should be genuine accelerometer values, with max available precision |
| 01:50.58 | kstar | DocScrutinizer05: Hmm |
| 01:51.13 | kstar | But the API is supposed to return qreal. |
| 01:51.41 | kstar | In any case, I'll just try QAccelerometer to see what it says |
| 02:05.25 | SpeedEvil | the hw can't do much better - from memory |
| 02:05.48 | SpeedEvil | however, averaging sequential readings may beat it |
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| 05:20.21 | djszapi_ | archlinux breaking the system while updating, yay |
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| 08:49.22 | lucido | hello, how can I send an sms from qt code in the background (without is opening a messaging application)? |
| 08:51.11 | dm8tbr | while I do not know the answer, I'd suspect, that this is not easily allowed for security reasons |
| 08:52.02 | lucido | dm8tbr, how about an email? |
| 08:53.37 | dm8tbr | neither the answer to that is known to me |
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| 09:24.17 | jonni | lucido: hidden sms sending is only allowed by com.nokia.maemo signed bins, so that API is not avail for 3rd party. |
| 09:25.14 | lucido | jonni, and email? I'm trying to send a backup password to some predefined account in case the user forgets his password |
| 09:25.28 | jonni | lucido: http://blogs.igalia.com/xrcalvar/2012/05/11/sending-emails-in-harmattan-with-qtqml/ |
| 09:27.50 | lucido | jonni, what if I disable aegis, can I send a hidden sms then? |
| 09:28.49 | mankeli | lucido: well you can just install your software with inception |
| 09:28.59 | jonni | lucido: you cant disable aegis, but if you exploit aegis capabilities and know what api's to use then yes. But unfortunately I'm not allowed to help you on that since the API isnt really public :) |
| 09:31.25 | lucido | jonni, I'll just send the code in an email then, but the link you gave uses Qt.openUrlExternally, that would open up a messaging app and reveil the secret code to the attacker, right? |
| 09:32.34 | jonni | lucido: oh yes, if you want really to be hidden then just use QSocket and compose the email SMTP port 25 ;), but thats a bit low level :) |
| 09:33.48 | jonni | or have somekind of web server running on internet, and just use http query and let the server do the email sending. |
| 09:34.54 | jonni | lucido: http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/2221-Sending-email-using-Qt |
| 09:36.00 | pa | morning.. |
| 09:36.08 | pa | how do i stuff formatted text in a dialog? |
| 09:36.30 | djszapi_ | using richtext as usual? |
| 09:36.42 | pa | hm |
| 09:37.50 | pa | but the message is a "string".. and html tags do not seem to work there |
| 09:38.08 | pa | (QueryDialog) |
| 09:39.04 | pa | hm maybe i got it |
| 09:42.09 | djszapi_ | <b> and so forth are totally accepted |
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| 11:06.12 | qwazix_ | what #ifdef identifies harmattan? |
| 11:07.06 | mankeli | MEEGO_EDITION i'd say |
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| 11:08.31 | qwazix | hm, qtCreator doesn't seem to like it. Is anywhere that I should define that (pro file maybe?) |
| 11:10.03 | qwazix | I found it #if defined(MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN) |
| 11:10.40 | qwazix | weird thing is that #ifdef MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN doesn't work |
| 11:11.24 | qwazix | scratch that, it does, just qtcreator doesn't autocomplete it |
| 11:14.31 | djszapi_ | qwazix: no ifdef identifies harmattan |
| 11:15.31 | djszapi_ | and your code will be unusable outside qtcreator |
| 11:15.37 | djszapi_ | so please do not use it. |
| 11:20.16 | qwazix | djszapi_, so, what is the recommended approach? test for maemo and put harmattan stuff in else? |
| 11:20.32 | djszapi_ | no |
| 11:21.03 | djszapi_ | harmattan is maemo |
| 11:21.08 | djszapi_ | from qmake point of view. |
| 11:21.33 | qwazix | I mean Q_WS_maemo_5 |
| 11:22.03 | djszapi_ | like I said, there is no global definition for harmattan |
| 11:22.18 | qwazix | what can I do then? |
| 11:23.17 | djszapi_ | try to select the relevant units at makefile generation time. |
| 11:25.06 | qwazix | I have no idea how to do that. I suppose i'll just make a define of my own and just set it when I need to build for one or the other. |
| 11:25.19 | qwazix | Or make two git branches and get over with it |
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| 11:52.20 | pa | how do i find my karma on tmo? |
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| 12:31.53 | rashm2k | qml preview says com.nokia.meego not found - how do i fix this? |
| 12:49.45 | jpnurmi | rashm2k: qml preview? |
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| 13:03.06 | rashm2k | Tools -> External -> Qt Quick -> Qml Preview |
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| 15:05.13 | djszapi__ | one thing, I learned today while breaking my system totally: you do not need the executable flag set for a binary to actually run the binary. |
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| 15:44.17 | rashm2k | having some issues with qml webview |
| 15:44.48 | rashm2k | doesn't render the web page for some pages when I set the html property directly |
| 15:45.03 | rashm2k | any ideas what I may be doing wrong? |
| 15:45.45 | djszapi_ | Venemo_N9: hey sir speaker :D |
| 15:45.55 | Venemo_N9 | hey |
| 15:46.00 | Venemo_N9 | what's up? |
| 15:46.10 | djszapi_ | Venemo_N9: could ask the same :) |
| 15:46.30 | djszapi_ | how was your talk going? |
| 15:51.58 | Venemo_N9 | djszapi_, it was okay |
| 15:52.59 | Venemo_N9 | djszapi_, one slight issue was that I had very little amount of sleep before, so it could've been better |
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| 15:55.24 | Venemo_N9 | djszapi_, there were many who said they liked it, so maybe it really was okay |
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| 16:19.24 | djszapi_ | Venemo_N9: video? :) |
| 16:20.39 | Venemo_N9 | djszapi_, dunno, not yet i think |
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| 16:26.24 | djszapi_ | Venemo_N9: was it worthy? |
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| 18:15.51 | rashm2k | anyone around? |
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| 18:25.45 | ZogG_laptop | no |
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| 18:35.46 | beford | nope |
| 18:36.10 | ZogG_laptop | frals, long time |
| 18:36.33 | ZogG_laptop | dropbox is asking me to change my password(actually forcing me) |
| 18:36.37 | ZogG_laptop | was it hacked? |
| 18:37.04 | ZogG_laptop | it would be idiotic feature to ask to change password on all device, if you consider it as a cloud service :( |
| 18:38.51 | rZr | itsnotabigtruck: hi i updated mosh |
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| 18:43.36 | rashm2k | I really need some help now |
| 18:46.00 | rashm2k | okay |
| 18:46.08 | rashm2k | hopefully someon can shed some light on this |
| 18:46.21 | rashm2k | http://pastebin.com/SYkfV3gm |
| 18:46.32 | rashm2k | the above is a QML WebView |
| 18:47.00 | rashm2k | However is DOES NOT show this HTML below - I just get a blank screen |
| 18:47.12 | rashm2k | http://pastebin.com/WdWwYSrB |
| 18:47.22 | rashm2k | Other bits of HTML seem to work fine |
| 18:47.31 | rashm2k | Some fail some don't |
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| 19:54.54 | beford | hi |
| 19:55.59 | djszapi_ | beford: how are you :) |
| 19:58.56 | beford | hello djszapi_, good, you? still at Ireland? |
| 19:59.02 | djszapi_ | yeah :) |
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| 20:49.50 | ZogG_laptop | TMO got crazy with all announcements :P |
| 20:50.34 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_, canu drink beer for me there? btw u didn't answer regarding Qt meetups, i wanted to hook the guy organizing it here with you |
| 20:51.14 | djszapi_ | sorry, busy now. |
| 20:51.20 | djszapi_ | no, I usually do not drink alcohol. |
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| 21:14.04 | pa | djszapi_, deadline approaching, hah? :) |
| 21:14.18 | pa | well, good luck! hope you manage to submit! |
| 21:14.32 | djszapi_ | not really. |
| 21:15.12 | beford | more chances for us to win |
| 21:15.24 | beford | :P |
| 21:17.06 | pa | beford, by the way, do you know how to see users karma on tmo? |
| 21:17.06 | ZogG_laptop | oh, hhe is doing app? |
| 21:17.14 | ZogG_laptop | or is qt5 port as submition? |
| 21:17.21 | pa | is it the thanks or what? |
| 21:17.33 | beford | I think its the maemo.org karma |
| 21:17.38 | ZogG_laptop | beford, actually from nowhere i suddenly saw a lot of people submitting and announcements today :P |
| 21:17.39 | pa | i think it was qt5 yes |
| 21:17.42 | beford | http://maemo.org/profile/view/munozferna/ |
| 21:18.16 | ZogG_laptop | my tmo profile and maemo one were not connected :( |
| 21:18.43 | pa | ah |
| 21:18.51 | pa | i have no maemo.org profile.. |
| 21:19.02 | pa | if i create one, can i connect my tmo profile? |
| 21:19.06 | beford | yea |
| 21:19.09 | ZogG_laptop | http://maemo.org/profile/view/ZogG/ |
| 21:19.39 | ZogG_laptop | pa, no YOU can't. anyone can. but you can't |
| 21:19.42 | ZogG_laptop | beford, sup |
| 21:19.55 | ZogG_laptop | beford, wonder if you know C well? |
| 21:20.50 | beford | a little |
| 21:21.17 | beford | pa create it and connect it, it will take a while for the karma to appear but it will eventually be on your account |
| 21:21.44 | pa | oki i try thanks :) |
| 21:22.48 | ZogG_laptop | beford, lol, i'm maing this school project and just wonder who i can ask to review that shit load of shit code :P |
| 21:22.59 | pa | ok, call me dumb, but i dont see how to connect.. :) |
| 21:23.18 | djszapi_ | why are you talking about karmas? |
| 21:23.22 | djszapi_ | why is it important? |
| 21:23.26 | beford | you only need to add the uri for the ITT |
| 21:23.56 | beford | http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=number |
| 21:24.01 | beford | ZogG_laptop: what is it about? |
| 21:27.32 | ZogG_laptop | beford, kinda phonebook |
| 21:28.57 | pa | in ansi C? wow :) |
| 21:29.48 | ZogG_laptop | ansi? |
| 21:29.52 | ZogG_laptop | what is ansi? |
| 21:29.57 | ZogG_laptop | in visual studio C |
| 21:30.04 | ZogG_laptop | and it's not really phonebook |
| 21:30.28 | ZogG_laptop | just ading, aranging contacts by name and phone type and deleting them |
| 21:30.30 | djszapi_ | visual studio C is ansi C |
| 21:30.39 | ZogG_laptop | i dunno difference |
| 21:30.40 | djszapi_ | aka. no C99 even |
| 21:30.55 | ZogG_laptop | i don't know differences actually as i'm noob |
| 21:31.46 | ZogG_laptop | and it has call log and also show all delete make a queque for a call and shit like that |
| 21:31.49 | ZogG_laptop | stupid thing |
| 21:31.58 | ZogG_laptop | i need to finish sms's part only now |
| 21:32.11 | djszapi_ | "This version of the language is often referred to as ANSI C, Standard C, or sometimes C89." |
| 21:32.19 | djszapi_ | and msvc does not support C99 |
| 21:32.31 | djszapi_ | so does the winapi not. |
| 21:34.59 | ZogG_laptop | rashm2k, nice app :) but you shouldn't ask to vote just you would add new features :P |
| 21:36.10 | pa | shit my fridge got stuck again.. it almost froze everything.. -.- |
| 21:40.06 | ZogG_laptop | beford, ping |
| 21:40.53 | ZogG_laptop | =( |
| 21:40.55 | ZogG_laptop | ~ping |
| 21:40.56 | infobot | ~pong |
| 21:41.03 | ZogG_laptop | ~sup |
| 21:41.04 | infobot | Yo zogg_laptop, how's it going eh? |
| 21:41.13 | ZogG_laptop | infobot, not bad |
| 21:41.13 | infobot | goodgood |
| 21:41.21 | ZogG_laptop | infobot, how is wife? |
| 21:41.22 | infobot | I think you lost me on that one, ZogG_laptop |
| 21:41.31 | ZogG_laptop | infobot, are you married? |
| 21:41.58 | ZogG_laptop | infobot, what would you do to Elop? |
| 21:42.03 | ZogG_laptop | =( |
| 21:42.06 | ZogG_laptop | ~botsnack |
| 21:42.06 | infobot | ZogG_laptop: aw, gee |
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| 21:59.00 | rashm2k | My n9 is my main phone so I can't just wipe it to test my app |
| 22:01.49 | rashm2k | oh its been a long weekend |
| 22:03.37 | ZogG_laptop | rashm2k, why would you wipe it? |
| 22:05.22 | rashm2k | when you need to mess with shared libs you do |
| 22:05.36 | rashm2k | just to be 100% sure |
| 22:05.50 | rashm2k | it work correctly |
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| 22:06.16 | ZogG_laptop | shared libs like what? |
| 22:07.37 | rashm2k | my own custom libs I have compiled |
| 22:08.13 | rashm2k | how do i get images side by side in a forum post? |
| 22:08.37 | ZogG_laptop | no idea |
| 22:08.55 | ZogG_laptop | so sil don't see the problem |
| 22:09.05 | ZogG_laptop | it's nice to have an extra device to test and code |
| 22:09.11 | rashm2k | yep |
| 22:09.16 | ZogG_laptop | but i still think u can handle with one |
| 22:09.41 | ZogG_laptop | i prefer begginers and people with no n9 got those :P) |
| 22:09.54 | ZogG_laptop | would be nice to see some ports to n9 of some devs who didn't get any |
| 22:09.55 | rashm2k | I have so far but when I need to mess with aegis I thunk i might brick my n9 |
| 22:10.10 | ZogG_laptop | why would u mess with aegis? |
| 22:10.30 | rashm2k | I nedd to store some user credentials |
| 22:10.41 | ZogG_laptop | and if itsnotabigtruck didn't brick his ... |
| 22:11.08 | ZogG_laptop | rashm2k, there is guy here who has no device and beginer and he managed to do it :P |
| 22:13.30 | ZogG_laptop | rashm2k, btw nice operator "3" |
| 22:13.32 | ZogG_laptop | custom? |
| 22:13.41 | rashm2k | no its a real network |
| 22:13.53 | rashm2k | lol coding with no device |
| 22:14.07 | rashm2k | thats pretty hard core |
| 22:14.21 | rashm2k | respect |
| 22:14.42 | ZogG_laptop | that's why i prefer people like him get device first and than others |
| 22:14.51 | ZogG_laptop | but again everyone votes like he wants |
| 22:15.11 | ZogG_laptop | some for friends, some were asked, so coz they like/respect someone and so on |
| 22:17.15 | rashm2k | I'm off te sleep now cya! |
| 22:18.19 | ZogG_laptop | bye |
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| 23:50.56 | Dante_J | greets the room |
| 23:52.08 | ZogG_laptop | Dante_J, u are late again |
| 23:52.16 | ZogG_laptop | ready to change me on post? |
| 23:52.16 | Dante_J | heh |
| 23:52.41 | Dante_J | It's Morning still here ZogG_laptop - sorry if it appears late ;) |
| 23:53.18 | Dante_J | Out of curiosity, which N9 IRC client do people in this room prefer? |
| 23:53.31 | Dante_J | (& why?) |
| 23:54.39 | ZogG_laptop | irc hatter |
| 23:54.44 | ZogG_laptop | open source / free |
| 23:54.57 | ZogG_laptop | nice features and nice ui |
| 23:55.02 | Dante_J | In a non-Ovi repo? |
| 23:55.27 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo promissed to push it to apps4meego |
| 23:55.45 | Dante_J | ok, cool |
| 23:56.32 | ZogG_laptop | but it's on maemo wiki or meego wiki afaik |
| 23:56.38 | ZogG_laptop | with downloadable link |
| 23:56.45 | ZogG_laptop | or u can ask at the channel |
| 23:57.28 | ZogG_laptop | hiemanshu, ping, you also a dev of irc-chatter right? push it to apps4meego :P |
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| 23:59.06 | ZogG_laptop | ok, night |