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| 00:25.43 | tgalal__ | ZogG_laptop: yeah that's me lol |
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| 00:46.27 | npm | http://www.cultofmac.com/184284/dont-worry-ios-encryption-is-so-secure-even-the-nsa-sucks-at-hacking-it/ :-) |
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| 01:36.29 | jpwhiting | hey all, is there a way to tell cmake in qt creator to build for harmattan target? |
| 01:52.04 | crevetor_ | hey guys, can you point me to the 1.3 sources ? |
| 02:09.38 | ieatlint | npm: wow, that article is hilarious |
| 02:10.00 | ieatlint | "one of the only ways to get the data off the iPhone or iPad is to guess every PIN combo possible – which could take up to 15years to perform with advanced software if you use an 8-digit pin |
| 02:10.14 | ieatlint | ... yeah, 15 years to guess an 8 digit pin? |
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| 03:40.35 | djszapi_ | jpwhiting: why not use a harmattan option? |
| 03:41.32 | djszapi_ | crevetor_: check the wikipage |
| 03:42.49 | djszapi_ | http://molly.corsac.net/~corsac/n9/sources-pr1.3/ |
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| 04:25.27 | djszapi_ | anybody with native English alive? |
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| 04:27.46 | djszapi_ | awake, even |
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| 04:48.09 | ieatlint | alive is colloquially accepted in that context :P |
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| 07:59.10 | djszapi_ | hiemanshu: figured out. http://lpapp.blogspot.ie/2012/08/support-2012-kde-randa-meetings_13.html |
| 07:59.16 | djszapi_ | hope my English is not that bad in there. |
| 07:59.28 | djszapi_ | jreznik: ^ |
| 07:59.43 | djszapi_ | you can always roll the randa support stuff around. |
| 07:59.52 | djszapi_ | s/always/also/ |
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| 08:28.13 | jreznik | djszapi_: btw. what about sprint in brno? I already talked to mck182, he was thinking about ktp spring here, we have rooms for community to meet etc :) |
| 08:28.41 | jreznik | next planned one is color management hackfest in november, hope for more than a few kde guys to come |
| 08:29.52 | djszapi_ | jreznik: I do not have more holidays for this year, unfortunately. |
| 08:30.02 | djszapi_ | but I am about to organize the KDE Blackberry sprint in January or February |
| 08:30.15 | djszapi_ | either in Berlin at KDAB, or in Brussels pre/post FOSDEM |
| 08:30.20 | djszapi_ | I am not a ktp contributor either. |
| 08:30.59 | djszapi_ | good that you have rooms there though. |
| 08:31.11 | djszapi_ | originally ktp was supposed to have the sprint in Randa as well, but we had to cut the costs. |
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| 08:50.46 | djszapi_ | jreznik: you could also ask M4rtinK, your compatriot to join in Brno. :) |
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| 10:19.56 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: ping |
| 10:20.28 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: pong |
| 10:20.37 | HtheB | pung |
| 10:21.18 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: i'm more stupid than you thouhgt :) |
| 10:21.41 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: heh |
| 10:21.48 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: i don't think it would help me to solve it yet, but kernel i use is .48 :) |
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| 10:22.04 | ZogG_laptop | going to update to .54 now |
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| 11:45.53 | pa | got through! http://store.ovi.com/content/303887 |
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| 11:46.52 | Lava_Croft | screenshots looks a bit err |
| 11:46.56 | Lava_Croft | busy looking application:) |
| 11:47.59 | djszapi|vb | that is what I have just said in private... :P |
| 11:49.03 | Lava_Croft | it also seems to be using different fonts |
| 11:49.06 | Lava_Croft | throughout the screenshot |
| 11:49.16 | Lava_Croft | emphasis on seems |
| 11:49.20 | Lava_Croft | might just be a bit optical trickery |
| 11:49.58 | pa | it uses 2 different kind of fonts |
| 11:50.18 | Lava_Croft | i think i see nokia sans |
| 11:50.21 | pa | myriad condensed for where i need condensed, otherwise i guess is nokia-something |
| 11:50.43 | Lava_Croft | anyhow, it looks a bit messy because of it |
| 11:51.28 | pa | thanks for the feedback :) |
| 11:52.29 | Lava_Croft | maybe add some lines or other way to divide the screen into parts |
| 11:52.48 | pa | yes i was considering to frame the boxes |
| 11:53.23 | Lava_Croft | you fit all the info into one single screen? |
| 11:53.32 | pa | the realtime info, yes |
| 11:53.40 | Lava_Croft | maybe think about splitting it into two orso |
| 11:53.43 | pa | like hr, speed, alti, kcal, and distance |
| 11:53.56 | Lava_Croft | or some other way to put it together, this is hard to fllow |
| 11:53.57 | pa | i actually wanted to have only one monitor screen |
| 11:53.58 | Lava_Croft | follow* |
| 11:54.48 | Lava_Croft | move the gps/bt buttons to settings? |
| 11:55.03 | pa | i mean, while you work out you dont really want to fiddle with the phone , right? you just want to look at how you are doing |
| 11:55.11 | Lava_Croft | you can reach the settings with your thumb, thanks to the placement of the icon |
| 11:55.12 | pa | about those switches i was thinking of it.. |
| 11:55.26 | Lava_Croft | if you are doing your working, a screen like this might be a bit hard to read |
| 11:55.29 | Lava_Croft | as you are moving around |
| 11:55.34 | pa | and i definitely have to split the settings in more pages |
| 11:55.42 | Lava_Croft | also those 3 big buttons |
| 11:55.49 | Lava_Croft | they need some love:) |
| 11:56.12 | Lava_Croft | all the info i see is info i would want to see, just not presented in this exact way :) |
| 11:56.27 | pa | hm.. interesting |
| 11:56.43 | pa | so you suggest to separate the boxes, right? |
| 11:56.47 | Lava_Croft | maybe, yes |
| 11:56.48 | pa | like with lines or framese |
| 11:56.53 | Lava_Croft | its very cluttered at the moment |
| 11:57.05 | Lava_Croft | try moving back from your screen/screenshot and see it from a distance |
| 11:57.16 | Lava_Croft | its a bit hard for you probably, since you made this yourself:) |
| 11:57.22 | pa | you looking in the web page, right? |
| 11:57.28 | pa | not on the store shot |
| 11:57.28 | Lava_Croft | yours, yes |
| 11:57.59 | pa | well i dont know.. from a distance i cannot read the labels (like km/h) |
| 11:58.03 | Lava_Croft | heh |
| 11:58.05 | pa | i can read the numbers |
| 11:58.08 | Lava_Croft | that icon to increase brightness is awfully big too |
| 11:58.17 | Lava_Croft | maybe you can try to add colours codes |
| 11:58.21 | pa | i was considering colors |
| 11:58.25 | pa | yes |
| 11:58.34 | Lava_Croft | settings and brightness icons could be way smaller |
| 11:58.38 | pa | i was thinking of having colors for the various pieces of info |
| 11:58.47 | pa | the brightness need to be easy to press |
| 11:58.56 | pa | coz it increases the brightness only while pressed |
| 11:59.11 | Lava_Croft | how is that easy to press, that high up the screen:) |
| 11:59.22 | Lava_Croft | bottom part is far easier to press |
| 11:59.29 | Lava_Croft | maybe switch the settings/brightness icon? |
| 11:59.30 | pa | well depends how you keep your phone |
| 11:59.34 | pa | if it is in the armband.. |
| 11:59.43 | pa | that was also something i was considering |
| 12:00.24 | pa | ok so i could actually switch brightness and settings |
| 12:00.38 | pa | iùve been thinking of it for long time, eventually i left like that |
| 12:00.49 | Lava_Croft | well, think for yourself about what people would use more |
| 12:00.54 | Lava_Croft | the settings button or the brightness button |
| 12:00.59 | pa | but color codes and framing i might add |
| 12:01.36 | pa | well.. thing is that it really depends how you carry your phone when u work out |
| 12:01.40 | Lava_Croft | keep up the good work tho! :) |
| 12:01.44 | Lava_Croft | well, yeah |
| 12:01.52 | Lava_Croft | but it wouldnt be wise to assume people use an armband |
| 12:01.58 | pa | true |
| 12:02.15 | pa | then i should put the brightness button right in the center :) |
| 12:02.23 | pa | it would be weird looking, but functional |
| 12:02.52 | Lava_Croft | maybe you can combine BT/GPS and settings into a single button |
| 12:02.57 | Lava_Croft | with a drop-down list orso |
| 12:03.19 | Lava_Croft | mind you, the technical aspects of building an application like this is beyond me:) |
| 12:03.30 | Lava_Croft | so i might suggest stuff that sounds crazy from an engineering point of view |
| 12:03.41 | pa | no no, the feedback is great! |
| 12:03.45 | pa | and thanks a lot for it! |
| 12:03.56 | pa | i will probably start reworking it from tomorrow |
| 12:03.57 | Lava_Croft | to be honest, its the screenshot |
| 12:04.08 | pa | (today i have to push my other app ) |
| 12:04.10 | Lava_Croft | you have put work into this, but the screenshot makes my eyes bleed:) |
| 12:04.14 | Lava_Croft | so i want you to do better! |
| 12:04.35 | Lava_Croft | i dont think there's really any hurry when it comes to N9 app developing? :) |
| 12:04.35 | pa | : )) |
| 12:04.52 | pa | well its my contest app |
| 12:04.55 | pa | so i want it to be good |
| 12:04.55 | Lava_Croft | ah |
| 12:05.02 | Lava_Croft | then the UI definitely needs work |
| 12:05.19 | Lava_Croft | make it blend in as much with the rest of our N9 as you can |
| 12:05.53 | pa | well but i want to be black everything that is not text or images |
| 12:05.58 | pa | to save battery |
| 12:06.09 | Lava_Croft | well, a lot of the N9's gui is like that |
| 12:06.15 | Lava_Croft | (which is awesome) |
| 12:06.47 | Lava_Croft | such a minimal theme is hard to get right :< |
| 12:06.55 | pa | also, Lava, would you mind trying it out? maybe some other things would pop into your eyes once using it :) |
| 12:07.44 | Lava_Croft | aw the n9 ovi store client cant find it yet:D |
| 12:07.48 | Lava_Croft | ill send sms from browser |
| 12:07.54 | pa | wait |
| 12:07.58 | Lava_Croft | naw |
| 12:08.05 | Lava_Croft | i know how to get direct dl link :) |
| 12:08.13 | pa | ok :) |
| 12:08.16 | Lava_Croft | im just lazy and i already had ovi open on the desktop |
| 12:09.18 | Lava_Croft | i guess you know that the application icon is a bit odd too? :D |
| 12:12.42 | Lava_Croft | its a bit strange that when you go to the 'next' window, a bar pops up from the bottom with the 'back' button |
| 12:12.48 | Lava_Croft | and makes your ui move around |
| 12:12.59 | Lava_Croft | since it doesnt overlap your gui, but just wants to set next to it |
| 12:14.27 | Lava_Croft | when i hold it in my right hand, the features that i can reach the easier with my thumb are turning the GPS/BT on or off |
| 12:14.33 | Lava_Croft | easiest* |
| 12:14.50 | Lava_Croft | dont think thats very handy |
| 12:15.10 | pa | hm true |
| 12:15.15 | Lava_Croft | if you want the brightness button on the (for me) easiest to reach place |
| 12:15.21 | Lava_Croft | you would put it in place of the GPS switch |
| 12:15.37 | Lava_Croft | or in the center between bt/gps switches |
| 12:15.39 | pa | or in the center, to be left handed friendly |
| 12:15.51 | Lava_Croft | theres an odd empty space in the center of the screen |
| 12:15.52 | Lava_Croft | right now |
| 12:15.56 | pa | yes |
| 12:16.01 | pa | i was planning to put a graph there |
| 12:16.04 | pa | or two |
| 12:16.19 | Lava_Croft | well i guess if you are training and moving about |
| 12:16.23 | Lava_Croft | and then get the n9 from your pocket |
| 12:16.32 | Lava_Croft | you might actually use your thumb pressed on the screen for a more secure hold |
| 12:16.43 | Lava_Croft | or at least hover over the lower bottom of the screen with it |
| 12:17.11 | pa | yes, thats why i have the timeouts on the buttons, right? |
| 12:17.23 | pa | do you think i should have a timeout also on settings? |
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| 12:18.05 | Lava_Croft | how do i get back to the big 3button screen |
| 12:18.09 | Lava_Croft | from the Monitor view |
| 12:18.15 | pa | you have to stop recording |
| 12:18.21 | pa | then you get the back button again |
| 12:18.24 | Lava_Croft | dont think i am? |
| 12:18.35 | pa | then there should be a back arrow on the bottom left |
| 12:18.40 | Lava_Croft | there isnt |
| 12:18.44 | pa | hm? |
| 12:18.50 | pa | so you have a large rec button? |
| 12:18.57 | pa | that span the whole space to the settings button? |
| 12:18.59 | Lava_Croft | a large red dot, aye |
| 12:19.02 | pa | ouch |
| 12:19.10 | pa | and it passed QA.. |
| 12:19.11 | Lava_Croft | not as large as settings button tho |
| 12:19.13 | Lava_Croft | :< |
| 12:19.23 | Lava_Croft | before you ask, i dont want to work there, thank you! :) |
| 12:19.26 | pa | maybe i should install the app from the store |
| 12:19.31 | Lava_Croft | i did |
| 12:19.48 | Lava_Croft | i sent an sms from ovi on my desktop computer |
| 12:19.55 | Lava_Croft | sends a link to n9 which opens the n9 ovi client |
| 12:20.02 | pa | ok, let me try |
| 12:20.59 | Lava_Croft | i dont think there ever is a Back button in the monitor view |
| 12:21.15 | Lava_Croft | i just restarted the app, tapped Monitor and it didnt spawn the back button |
| 12:21.23 | pa | hm |
| 12:21.29 | pa | its very strange |
| 12:23.12 | pa | ouch |
| 12:23.14 | pa | i have it here |
| 12:23.19 | pa | just installed from the store |
| 12:23.34 | pa | as soon as i open the monitor page |
| 12:23.39 | pa | i get three buttons on the bottom |
| 12:23.43 | pa | back, rec, settings |
| 12:23.57 | Lava_Croft | that back arrow |
| 12:24.01 | Lava_Croft | the unsightly big white arrow |
| 12:24.05 | Lava_Croft | it doesnt seem to work |
| 12:24.09 | pa | hold it |
| 12:24.20 | Lava_Croft | facepalms |
| 12:24.26 | Lava_Croft | my bad, hah |
| 12:24.47 | Lava_Croft | you had your first DEU |
| 12:24.48 | pa | well, in the web page graphics, its explained :) |
| 12:24.58 | Lava_Croft | oh i didnt even look at the manual |
| 12:25.02 | Lava_Croft | nobody does |
| 12:25.20 | Lava_Croft | maybe pop up a manual screen when the app starts for the first time? |
| 12:25.29 | pa | hmm.. good idea |
| 12:26.29 | pa | so, color, boxes separation, buttons rearrangement, for now |
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| 12:55.11 | pa | do you think that an app that if misused might mess up phone contacts can get into the store? |
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| 14:03.53 | radiofree | pa: that's entirely possible |
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| 14:04.34 | radiofree | do you need a security credential for contacts? I mean you could easily mess them up with the Tracker read/write credential |
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| 14:12.13 | pa | indeed |
| 14:12.43 | pa | thats what im using now |
| 14:12.48 | pa | so well i try to submit it |
| 14:13.27 | radiofree | I don't there's going to go through it with a fine tooth comb |
| 14:13.40 | radiofree | they are going to go... |
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| 14:20.18 | pa | i see |
| 14:20.20 | pa | thanks :) |
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| 14:27.44 | sledges | hello |
| 14:29.31 | sledges | what aegis rule is needed to make this syscall succeed when launched as non-root (I am trying to add a shutdown button): m_State->set(MeeGo::QmSystemState::ShuttingDown) ? |
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| 14:58.07 | MohammadAG | wtf is no default action for the given PARAMS |
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| 15:10.19 | jonni | sledges: dsme::DeviceStateControl (http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qmsystem2/credential.html) |
| 15:11.47 | sledges | thank you jonni, I think this guy is mixing apples with bananas: http://blog.rm-r-f.me/index.php?id=38 by using dbus and then adding manifest.aegis |
| 15:12.09 | sledges | i am rookie in aegis and general meego API and Qt Creator/OBS interaction. |
| 15:13.59 | jonni | sledges: well as long as he added the credential to his binary, he can call dbus-send too, works, but is a kludge. |
| 15:14.01 | sledges | Could you help me / would it be easy to add manifest.aegis to an existing project http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-systemui/ ? |
| 15:15.40 | jonni | sledges: it already has manigest in here http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-systemui/blobs/master/debian/system-ui.aegis |
| 15:15.46 | jonni | manifest even |
| 15:16.01 | sledges | oops you are right, I am looking at it now |
| 15:16.42 | sledges | so if in OBS I put up a .patch to add "<credential name="dsme::DeviceStateControl" />", OBS should take care of the rest and the ::set(shuttingdown) apicall should succeed? |
| 15:18.12 | jonni | sledges: yes in theory, but you cannot put that credential to any ovi store application since its not allowed for 3rd parties, but if you use exploited capas, like inception, then yes. |
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| 15:18.55 | sledges | well, isn't systemui a part of internal apps (this task is for Nemo mobile at the moment) |
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| 15:19.08 | sledges | so, should suffice |
| 15:19.13 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Hello everybody |
| 15:19.27 | sledges | hello Sfiet |
| 15:19.39 | Sfiet_Konstantin | aegis question ... |
| 15:19.44 | sledges | just asked one :)) |
| 15:19.59 | Sfiet_Konstantin | what the hell is: "Aegis rejecting /home/developer/widgets_1.0.0_armel.deb: opt/widgets/widgets/corewidgets/libcorewidgets.so not installed by the package" |
| 15:21.18 | Sfiet_Konstantin | why is aegis rejecting my plugin |
| 15:21.48 | jonni | Sfiet_Konstantin: most likely that .so file is not included in your deb, but manifest has the path defined. check with ar that the .so file really is inside the deb |
| 15:22.51 | Sfiet_Konstantin | no, it is the reverse, all the libs are in the deb, but the manifest only have credentials for the main app |
| 15:23.09 | jonni | can you give url to deb? |
| 15:23.24 | Sfiet_Konstantin | because I don't know what credential to put |
| 15:23.25 | Sfiet_Konstantin | wait |
| 15:24.52 | Sfiet_Konstantin | http://sfietkonstantin.free.fr/meego/widgets-bug.deb |
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| 15:40.27 | sledges | jonni, thank you; but it looks like all I needed to change to make m_State->set(MeeGo::QmSystemState::ShuttingDown) |
| 15:40.54 | sledges | work was in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dsme.conf: <deny ...shutdown> into <allow ...shutdown> |
| 15:43.29 | sledges | could anyone tell me, why with Qt4 Quick by adding a new MButton(qtTrId("my_test")) (with //% "My test" comment above) its label gets rendered as "!! My test" ? |
| 15:43.49 | phako | To tell you it's not translated yet |
| 15:44.14 | phako | to make it easy to spot untranslated strings in the UI |
| 15:45.15 | sledges | phako, I wanted to add my button next to a "Settings" button, so I did. But when I grep meegotouch-systemui project's source tree for "Settings" or for its qtTrId identifier, it pointed me only to that .cpp file, and nowhere else to any other translations |
| 15:45.31 | sledges | so I thought //% "My test" is enough |
| 15:45.39 | sledges | unless there is a separate translation project |
| 15:45.41 | phako | no, that's called "Engineering english" |
| 15:45.48 | sledges | ok, saw that somewhere |
| 15:45.50 | phako | the translations are in some nokia-i10n-foo-bar |
| 15:45.53 | phako | package |
| 15:45.56 | phako | IIRC |
| 15:46.04 | sledges | understood |
| 15:46.09 | sledges | yes, there is one along these lines |
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| 15:51.31 | sledges | thank you , phako , found it and i'm on it :)) |
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| 16:02.58 | Sfiet_Konstantin | well |
| 16:03.05 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I still do not understand |
| 16:03.12 | Sfiet_Konstantin | why most of my plugins are accepted |
| 16:03.23 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but not three |
| 16:05.44 | Sfiet_Konstantin | ok ... it seems to be related to the length of the name :S |
| 16:11.42 | rashm2k | anyone got a full exampe of QobjectList based model? |
| 16:11.48 | rashm2k | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativemodels.html |
| 16:12.12 | rashm2k | not sure what the rest of the DataObject Classs is supposed to be |
| 16:13.20 | Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah |
| 16:13.28 | Sfiet_Konstantin | dataobject should be a QObject |
| 16:13.33 | Sfiet_Konstantin | with Q_OBJECT macro |
| 16:13.40 | Sfiet_Konstantin | and properties declared with Q_PROPERTY |
| 16:13.48 | Sfiet_Konstantin | setting either READ and CONSTANT |
| 16:13.53 | Sfiet_Konstantin | or READ WRITE and NOTIFY |
| 16:14.02 | rashm2k | what does Q_PROPERTY do? |
| 16:14.36 | rashm2k | what does this line mean: |
| 16:14.51 | rashm2k | Q_PROPERTY(QString name READ name WRITE setName NOTIFY nameChanged) |
| 16:15.40 | Sfiet_Konstantin | well |
| 16:15.50 | Sfiet_Konstantin | it declares an attribute to the metaobject |
| 16:16.05 | Sfiet_Konstantin | meaning that you can access to that attribute without calling the getter and setter |
| 16:16.23 | Sfiet_Konstantin | when you declare Q_PROPERTY(Type foo READ foo WRITE setFoo) |
| 16:16.31 | Sfiet_Konstantin | you say that the attribute will be named foo |
| 16:16.39 | Sfiet_Konstantin | and the getter is foo() |
| 16:16.44 | Sfiet_Konstantin | and the setter is setFoo |
| 16:16.53 | Sfiet_Konstantin | this property system is useful in many cases |
| 16:16.59 | Sfiet_Konstantin | first: introspection |
| 16:17.09 | Sfiet_Konstantin | you can read a property without knowing the type of object |
| 16:17.13 | Sfiet_Konstantin | using metaobject systems |
| 16:17.18 | Sfiet_Konstantin | and second and more umportant |
| 16:17.19 | Sfiet_Konstantin | in QML |
| 16:17.27 | Sfiet_Konstantin | the property will be accessible through foo |
| 16:17.38 | Sfiet_Konstantin | MyItem { foo: 3 } |
| 16:17.50 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but in QML you need to register a signal to notify a change too |
| 16:17.58 | Sfiet_Konstantin | that's why there is NOTIFY fooChanged() |
| 16:18.01 | Sfiet_Konstantin | am i clear ? |
| 16:20.51 | rashm2k | excellent Sfiet_Konstantin! |
| 16:20.55 | rashm2k | very clear |
| 16:21.25 | rashm2k | so I still need to define the getters and setters methods? |
| 16:21.31 | Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah |
| 16:21.35 | Sfiet_Konstantin | you need to create a qobject |
| 16:21.43 | Sfiet_Konstantin | that is something like a container object |
| 16:21.49 | Sfiet_Konstantin | that have some attributes |
| 16:21.52 | Sfiet_Konstantin | declared as properties |
| 16:22.06 | rashm2k | declared as properties??? |
| 16:22.15 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Q_PROPERTY |
| 16:22.17 | Sfiet_Konstantin | wait |
| 16:22.19 | rashm2k | okay |
| 16:22.20 | Sfiet_Konstantin | i give you an example |
| 16:22.24 | rashm2k | thanks |
| 16:22.36 | Sfiet_Konstantin | https://gitorious.org/widgets/widgets/blobs/master/qml-plugins/base/lib/componentbase.h |
| 16:22.46 | Sfiet_Konstantin | your header should be like this |
| 16:23.05 | Sfiet_Konstantin | forget about W_DECLARE_PRIVATE and d_pointer, and replace them with your private attributes |
| 16:23.20 | Sfiet_Konstantin | (and remark Q_SIGNALS = signals) |
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| 16:26.04 | rashm2k | thanks for the links much appreciated!!!!!!! |
| 16:26.35 | ZogG_N9 | links for wut? |
| 16:26.50 | rashm2k | Sfiet_Konstantin |
| 16:26.50 | Sfiet_Konstantin | example of Q_PROPERTY |
| 16:26.56 | Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah rashm2k ? |
| 16:27.06 | rashm2k | meant thanks to you |
| 16:27.10 | ZogG_N9 | o/ |
| 16:27.13 | Sfiet_Konstantin | k :) |
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| 17:09.45 | djszapi|win | Lava_Croft: do you mind giving some feedback about our UI Design as well for my application? |
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| 17:32.09 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: what ap? |
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| 17:42.47 | Venemo | ~seen ajalkane |
| 17:43.00 | infobot | ajalkane <~ajalkane@a88-115-212-112.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 1d 22h 58m 10s ago, saying: 'djszapi_: o/'. |
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| 18:13.16 | djszapi | Venemo: what would you like to tell him? |
| 18:13.24 | djszapi | I am in touch with him, so I can forward. |
| 18:13.36 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: secret ap |
| 18:14.36 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: mkoy.png |
| 18:15.17 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: stop touching ajalkane |
| 18:15.26 | djszapi | lol |
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| 18:19.33 | djszapi | not that I mentioned I touch him, but certain people have strange phantasy ;> |
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| 18:22.12 | ggfgh | test |
| 18:22.22 | djszapi_ | failure |
| 18:22.41 | ggfgh | dammit ! |
| 18:26.09 | ZogG_laptop | :) |
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| 18:46.08 | Venemo | djszapi, I'd like to talk to him about Qt 5 on N9 |
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| 18:48.27 | djszapi_ | Venemo: you can talk to me as well |
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| 18:57.00 | Venemo | :) |
| 18:57.15 | djszapi_ | what would you like to know? |
| 19:04.30 | Venemo | :) |
| 19:05.33 | djszapi_ | you need to have python installed for building the v8 stack though. |
| 19:10.07 | djszapi_ | rZr: someone got the raspberry in France two weeks ago. |
| 19:10.33 | djszapi_ | from the free batch. One colleague told that to me in the company. |
| 19:12.05 | ZogG_hunter | djszapi: and Israel? |
| 19:12.34 | MohammadAG | probably never got it |
| 19:13.52 | djszapi_ | ZogG_hunter: who cares about Israel. XD |
| 19:14.38 | ZogG_hunter | MohammadAG: my friend got it for a long time and i got notice about future notice of me getting |
| 19:14.54 | ZogG_hunter | MohammadAG: did you see my wazapp msg? |
| 19:18.36 | MohammadAG | ZogG_hunter, yep, you're a hunter now? |
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| 19:19.38 | pa | djszapi, any better? http://oi46.tinypic.com/10d8h1t.jpg or http://oi48.tinypic.com/21docn9.jpg |
| 19:20.30 | djszapi_ | pa: you have really weird ideas. :) |
| 19:20.57 | ZogG_hunter | MohammadAG: it's just coz a lot of USERNAME_bears in #funtoo chan :P |
| 19:21.12 | MohammadAG | wonders how to encrypt shit using IMEI |
| 19:21.20 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 19:21.24 | djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: #sadtoo is better |
| 19:23.39 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: did you hacked rav-kav? :P |
| 19:25.34 | MohammadAG | no, but I'd rather have the user's access token not usable on another device |
| 19:25.49 | MohammadAG | by means of a simple cp at least |
| 19:26.07 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: sociality? |
| 19:26.11 | MohammadAG | yep |
| 19:26.35 | ZogG_laptop | so we gonna see you next meeting? |
| 19:28.45 | pa | well Lava_Croft was suggesting to use colors and lines, thats why i moked that up :) |
| 19:29.14 | djszapi_ | the main problem is *not* the colours for me |
| 19:29.29 | djszapi_ | and the lines are not good enough either to fix the superbloatness |
| 19:29.56 | pa | do you think some more vertical spacing would help? |
| 19:29.58 | djszapi_ | since you usually have two colours on cycling computers as well anyway |
| 19:30.11 | djszapi_ | 1) No margins |
| 19:30.19 | djszapi_ | 2) vertical switchers??? |
| 19:30.30 | pa | well to save space |
| 19:31.13 | djszapi_ | well, I do not try to help, if you do the application for yourself. ;) |
| 19:31.23 | djszapi_ | if you like it, and if it is done for you, it is all fine. |
| 19:32.00 | pa | i agree that it is a bit too condensed |
| 19:32.11 | pa | it's because i wanted to save some space for some graphs |
| 19:32.35 | djszapi_ | I have such a superbloatness when I randomly write onto the blackboard |
| 19:32.38 | djszapi_ | at a sprint |
| 19:32.41 | djszapi_ | at I drump my ideas |
| 19:32.45 | djszapi_ | and* |
| 19:32.56 | djszapi_ | dump* |
| 19:33.40 | djszapi_ | let me finish the ui design I have in mind, and I will show you. |
| 19:34.30 | pa | okay :) |
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| 19:38.49 | beford | sup |
| 19:38.55 | beford | sup |
| 19:39.02 | beford | hi ZogG_laptop, djszapi |
| 19:39.07 | ZogG_laptop | sup |
| 19:40.30 | ZogG_laptop | pa: your app? |
| 19:41.04 | ZogG_laptop | i think the UI is nice, just few tweaks |
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| 20:00.27 | MohammadAG | WARNING: QObject::connect: Cannot queue arguments of type 'QNetworkReply::NetworkError' |
| 20:00.27 | MohammadAG | (Make sure 'QNetworkReply::NetworkError' is registered using qRegisterMetaType().) |
| 20:00.29 | MohammadAG | nice |
| 20:00.33 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, hopefully |
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| 20:03.48 | pa | ZogG_laptop, thanks. but i guess some bloat should be removed :) |
| 20:06.14 | pa | who's using gmail accounts to store and sync phone contacts here? |
| 20:07.32 | ZogG_laptop | i stoped as it changed and deleted my accounts once already |
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| 20:14.20 | pa | what deleted your accounts? |
| 20:14.24 | pa | and what do you use now? |
| 20:15.28 | ZogG_laptop | i don't sync |
| 20:15.28 | ZogG_laptop | i backup |
| 20:15.28 | ZogG_laptop | http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ |
| 20:15.43 | pa | ah |
| 20:16.03 | pa | so you dont have contacts on gmail anymore, right? |
| 20:16.20 | valdur55_ | ~update |
| 20:16.20 | infobot | from memory, update is http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 |
| 20:16.24 | pa | coz i need beta testers for my app :) i mean, im using it already for quite a while |
| 20:16.35 | pa | and its totally safe, if used properly |
| 20:20.19 | ZogG_laptop | pa: right |
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| 21:16.48 | MohammadAG | pa, what's the app? |
| 21:23.44 | sledges | what is the most effortless way to display a modal Yes/No dialogue ? (preferably without involving extra QMLs as well) |
| 21:27.59 | MohammadAG | sledges, what UI framework are you using? |
| 21:30.19 | piggz | sledges: QMl Sheet? |
| 21:31.22 | sledges | MohammadAG, Qt4 Quick |
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| 21:41.21 | pa | MohammadAG, it's a sort of synchronizer for gmail contacts. do u use gmail to host your phone contacts? |
| 21:47.29 | MohammadAG | pa, tbh I use iCloud |
| 21:47.37 | sledges | thanks but after more googling it looks like I'll use the simple MDialog, piggz & MohammadAG |
| 21:47.38 | MohammadAG | (which is just CardDAV) |
| 21:47.48 | MohammadAG | sledges, MDialog is MTF |
| 21:48.01 | MohammadAG | and if you're using MTF, use MMessageBox, it's easier |
| 21:48.08 | pa | MohammadAG, can u use it on N9? |
| 21:48.31 | pa | there was sniper_swe who was interested |
| 21:48.31 | MohammadAG | pa, with syncevolution |
| 21:48.36 | pa | ah right |
| 21:48.42 | MohammadAG | the N9 doesn't support CardDAV |
| 21:48.45 | pa | i was using syncevoluton too |
| 21:48.46 | MohammadAG | which is kinda dumb tbh |
| 21:48.48 | sledges | rry, I am still fresh with the terminology :) |
| 21:48.54 | pa | but it didnt support multiple accounts |
| 21:49.00 | pa | so i started my own app |
| 21:49.02 | MohammadAG | MTF is MeeGoTouchFramework |
| 21:49.10 | MohammadAG | it's C++/Qt, not QML |
| 21:49.48 | MohammadAG | here's an example on MMessageBox https://gitorious.org/qtbook/sociality-mtf/blobs/master/src/aboutsheet.cpp#line149 |
| 21:50.31 | sledges | yes, thank you MohammadAG , I am still fresh with terminology, so many onion layers above Qt (Quick, C/C+, ..., MTF, ... :) |
| 21:50.36 | sledges | s/+/++/ |
| 22:03.17 | javispedro | Qt's translation stuff seems totally broken |
| 22:03.33 | javispedro | e.g. qmake totally not caring about .qm files, not being able to regenerate them |
| 22:04.09 | javispedro | no standard paths for qm files, no idea how to use them from shlibs, ... |
| 22:04.16 | javispedro | gettext ftw. |
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| 22:37.47 | mgrover_ | anybody around with scratch box willing to make a package for me? |
| 22:37.52 | mgrover_ | for the n9 |
| 22:38.37 | sledges | MohammadAG, apparently MMessageBox still does not work after I prepended the .cpp file with #include <MMessageBox> - compile error: MMessabeGox was not declared in this scope |
| 22:39.36 | sledges | sorry mgrover_ , but I am a die-hard OBS user :) Maybe you should be come one, too? :) |
| 22:40.23 | mgrover_ | i just needed one thing doing tbh and it refuses to setup on my ubuntu system thanks to the rootstrap refusing to download |
| 22:40.42 | beford | url mgrover_ |
| 22:40.49 | beford | what do you want to build |
| 22:41.01 | mgrover_ | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/96452522/easydeb.tar.gz |
| 22:41.15 | mgrover_ | using |
| 22:41.19 | mgrover_ | dpkg-buildpackage -sa -d -rfakeroot |
| 22:41.19 | beford | will that hack my sbox and destroy my vm? |
| 22:41.31 | mgrover_ | no check it |
| 22:41.35 | mgrover_ | just easy deb |
| 22:41.36 | beford | heh ok |
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| 22:41.48 | jesuschrist_ | hi |
| 22:42.13 | sledges | oh J.H.C.! |
| 22:42.15 | sledges | :p |
| 22:42.25 | sledges | s/:p/:)/ |
| 22:42.36 | sledges | thanks infobot |
| 22:43.20 | jesuschrist_ | hey infobot |
| 22:43.22 | jesuschrist_ | sup |
| 22:43.38 | jesuschrist_ | rZr : installed ppp |
| 22:45.50 | jesuschrist_ | sledges : B=====< |
| 22:46.03 | jesuschrist_ | s/</D/ |
| 22:46.48 | beford | mgrover_: apps.beford.net/transmission |
| 22:48.06 | mgrover_ | thank you :) |
| 22:50.11 | beford | np |
| 23:03.32 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i thought i was V.I.P to test :P |
| 23:03.45 | beford | that's some other package |
| 23:03.50 | beford | I dont even know what it is |
| 23:03.52 | beford | xD |
| 23:04.02 | beford | easy deb chroot for harmattan I believe |
| 23:04.28 | ZogG_laptop | and down.php is :P |
| 23:04.56 | pa | where is sniper_swe? :p |
| 23:05.00 | beford | oh yea but it should not download anything there is no package there |
| 23:05.01 | beford | :P |
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| 23:42.11 | heymaster | how to use aegis-manifest tool ? |
| 23:43.10 | heymaster | aegis-manifest: readelf executable not found. |
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| 23:53.06 | pa | no idea.. what do you want to use it for? |
| 23:54.06 | heymaster | pa: to generate manifest automatically |
| 23:54.09 | heymaster | aegis-manifest: Token definitions path '/usr/share/aegis-manifest-dev/api' not accessible. |
| 23:54.24 | pa | you mean on pc? |
| 23:54.30 | heymaster | yes |
| 23:54.45 | pa | why do you want to generate it automatically? |
| 23:54.58 | pa | (yes i know it is not an answer to ur question) |
| 23:55.43 | heymaster | because app not starting |
| 23:57.00 | pa | coz of credentials? |
| 23:59.03 | heymaster | i don't know. i'm using aegis-crypto.h file |
| 23:59.13 | pa | not even sure what it is :) |
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| 23:59.53 | pa | anyway, if you want to check what credentials your app gets when it gets started, you can put in the beginning of your main() something like system("accli -I") |
