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| 06:54.19 | khertan | Morning |
| 06:56.34 | khertan | rZr, thx for the video |
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| 08:22.14 | qwazix | rzr: ping |
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| 13:25.52 | gabriel9|work | i have gtalk on my N9 |
| 13:26.05 | gabriel9|work | but i also have other gtalk acc |
| 13:26.17 | gabriel9|work | is there a way to set itup with jabber? |
| 13:26.21 | gabriel9|work | anyone tried that |
| 13:27.16 | dm8tbr | should work |
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| 14:04.49 | gabriel9|work | any guide? |
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| 14:15.01 | Lava_Croft | gooooooogle |
| 14:15.51 | Lava_Croft | gabriel9|work: or easier: There are extra account plugins in OVI store |
| 14:22.52 | Lava_Croft | haha |
| 14:22.58 | Lava_Croft | sips fighting honeydew inc |
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| 14:25.41 | pa | does someone know how to get the data stored inside a QBluetoothServiceInfo::Sequence ? |
| 14:32.29 | khertan_ | ouch just testing to rewrite KhtNotes without qt component for desktop ... it s a real pain ! |
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| 14:47.47 | Lava_Croft | owie |
| 14:47.57 | Lava_Croft | seems Nokia Netherlands has no idea about it's own online repair service |
| 14:48.04 | Lava_Croft | since they dont know what the status messages on the website mean |
| 14:49.36 | Lava_Croft | hihi http://twitpic.com/aecwrg/full |
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| 15:11.38 | Sazpaimon | nokia FINALLY got back to me with my PR1.3 source code request |
| 15:11.49 | Sazpaimon | after a month |
| 15:11.53 | Sazpaimon | did anyone else get the DVD yet |
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| 15:55.07 | Corsac | Hi, |
| 15:55.07 | Corsac | Your sources have been sent. |
| 15:55.07 | Corsac | We apologize for the delay caused by vacations. |
| 15:55.08 | Corsac | Thank you for your interest towards our products! |
| 15:55.09 | Corsac | \o/ |
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| 16:20.50 | whatsa | Corsac, is it PR1.3 GPL dvd? |
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| 16:21.35 | ZogG_laptop | ~ping |
| 16:21.35 | infobot | ~pong |
| 16:21.42 | djszapi | ~sup |
| 16:21.42 | infobot | Yo djszapi, how's it going eh? |
| 16:23.24 | pa | djszapi, question (to you that are an intern, and that might be interested in having it as a feature) |
| 16:23.41 | pa | is it now possible to have offline nokia maps accessible from qtmobility.location? |
| 16:24.21 | djszapi | I am unsure why you are asking this from me... |
| 16:24.36 | pa | according to this guy: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTMOBILITY-1116 , the plugin should be available somewhere |
| 16:24.49 | pa | (nov 2011) |
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| 16:26.03 | pa | and maybe with pr1.2 and 1.3, it even ended in the phone? |
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| 17:04.15 | djszapi | wow, the gentoo guys fixed an issue I reported four years ago... |
| 17:04.19 | djszapi | progress... |
| 17:07.30 | djszapi | pa: sorry, I am not involved with mobility. |
| 17:07.38 | djszapi | so really the wrong person to ask. |
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| 17:10.36 | pa | ok. maybe you knew something :) |
| 17:12.27 | rzr | djszapi, not today |
| 17:13.52 | djszapi | rzr: huh? |
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| 17:43.51 | rzr | djszapi, qtonpi |
| 17:44.55 | djszapi | rzr: unsure what you mean ... |
| 17:46.44 | rzr | no rpi for me in my today's mailbox... you asked me to report that |
| 17:48.59 | beford | mine still have around 4 weeks |
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| 17:51.11 | djszapi | beford: ? |
| 17:51.18 | beford | rpi |
| 17:51.21 | beford | I bought one |
| 17:51.22 | beford | :P |
| 17:51.38 | djszapi | rzr: perhaps you will get a charger alone |
| 17:51.42 | djszapi | after a long waiting |
| 17:53.10 | beford | there is no charger for rpi :P |
| 17:53.16 | djszapi | huh ? |
| 17:53.29 | beford | at least not included in the package |
| 17:53.39 | djszapi | power supply, what I meant. |
| 17:53.52 | beford | yea I know, it's not included you have to use your own |
| 17:53.57 | djszapi | huh ? |
| 17:54.00 | beford | so rzr won't get anything :P |
| 17:54.01 | beford | xD |
| 17:54.09 | djszapi | it *should* be in the box sent out. |
| 17:55.03 | rzr | so what is today news ? |
| 17:55.35 | djszapi | I will go home in few minutes. |
| 17:55.37 | rzr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1245888#post1245888 |
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| 18:45.32 | khertan_ | some do desktop apps with qml ? did you use qt component ? not available in debian stable for example, and on many os, did you have pure qml components ? |
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| 18:46.02 | djszapi_ | khertan_: yeah, many ... |
| 18:46.40 | khertan_ | djszapi_: did you know some of this qt components ? i prefer to not reinvent the wheel |
| 18:46.48 | khertan_ | colibri look like unmaintained |
| 18:47.08 | khertan_ | i didn't know any other |
| 18:47.12 | djszapi_ | ofc ... |
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| 18:48.03 | khertan_ | ofc ? |
| 18:53.22 | admiral0 | khertan_: colibri? |
| 18:53.43 | khertan_ | admiral0: look like unmaintained and unfinished |
| 18:54.23 | admiral0 | colibri? what is that? |
| 18:56.05 | khertan_ | admiral0: https://projects.forum.nokia.com/colibri |
| 18:57.38 | rashm2k | what does this error mean? |
| 18:57.46 | rashm2k | qmetatype.h:169: error: 'qt_metatype_id' is not a member of 'QMetaTypeId<std::basic_string<char> >' |
| 18:58.11 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: isn't that obvious? |
| 18:58.38 | djszapi_ | perhaps, just for me :p |
| 18:58.42 | djszapi_ | show your code |
| 18:58.50 | djszapi_ | and the problem where it is triggered |
| 18:59.24 | rashm2k | return QVariant::fromValue(property_GlobalId); |
| 18:59.56 | rashm2k | property_GlobalId is of type std::string |
| 19:00.15 | djszapi_ | exactly |
| 19:00.26 | djszapi_ | and where did you read that std::string is a qvariant type? |
| 19:00.46 | djszapi_ | also, why don't you use the Qt string classes? |
| 19:01.37 | rashm2k | I'm trying to interact with a SOAP service |
| 19:02.01 | djszapi_ | that is fine, but why are you not using qt string classes for the qt api? |
| 19:02.04 | rashm2k | which I have generated XML bindings for using Axis2c/WSF2 C++ |
| 19:02.16 | rashm2k | and those bindings return std::string |
| 19:02.25 | djszapi_ | that is a poor reasining |
| 19:02.28 | rashm2k | becuase axis2c is not Qt based |
| 19:02.46 | djszapi_ | you do not listen ;) |
| 19:02.59 | djszapi_ | why are you not using qt string classes for the qt api? |
| 19:03.02 | rashm2k | I'm not that good at c++ thats why ;-) |
| 19:03.18 | djszapi_ | both are C++ ... |
| 19:03.27 | djszapi_ | stl and qt, too... |
| 19:03.29 | rashm2k | I'm not good at either... |
| 19:03.58 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qstring.html#fromStdString |
| 19:04.13 | rashm2k | Shall I explain my issue - perhaps you can help me come up with a better solution? |
| 19:05.03 | djszapi_ | just read the link above |
| 19:05.41 | rashm2k | I still think I could get some useful insight from you. Do you mind? |
| 19:06.53 | rashm2k | ???? |
| 19:07.11 | rashm2k | that fixed it thanks |
| 19:07.36 | rashm2k | Well let me explain |
| 19:07.54 | rashm2k | I have a number of classes that interact with a SOAP web serivce. |
| 19:08.24 | rashm2k | once I make a call I get back objects instead of xml ofcourse (I'm sure you know this) |
| 19:08.51 | djszapi_ | yes, I know soap very well |
| 19:08.56 | djszapi_ | I wrote such services myself. |
| 19:09.03 | rashm2k | One particular class contains a list of elements I would like to expose to a ListView in QML |
| 19:09.13 | rashm2k | I'm talking to the right person then!!!! |
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| 19:10.13 | rashm2k | the snippet of code is the ::data(int) method of QAbstractListModel |
| 19:10.34 | rashm2k | its the switch statement here: |
| 19:10.46 | rashm2k | http://cdumez.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/how-to-use-c-list-model-in-qml.html |
| 19:10.59 | rashm2k | so my question is |
| 19:11.11 | ZogG_laptop | khertan_: fixed utf-8? |
| 19:11.26 | rashm2k | what is the best way of acheiving integration between the QML and my C++ code. |
| 19:11.54 | rashm2k | For example each time a perform a getXXX which returns std::string |
| 19:12.03 | rashm2k | I need to convert it to a QString |
| 19:12.12 | rashm2k | which is inefficient??? |
| 19:12.32 | rashm2k | Can I just return std::string? |
| 19:13.54 | rashm2k | feel free to write the comments - I'm about to leave in 10 mins. I will read when I get back. Thanks! |
| 19:14.17 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: yep |
| 19:14.28 | ZogG_laptop | khertan_: works fine |
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| 19:14.38 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: it should |
| 19:14.43 | ZogG_laptop | and i think autorefresh works |
| 19:14.52 | khertan_ | 1.9 improve a bit sync conflict resolution |
| 19:15.13 | khertan_ | i was a bit too strict while using a time delta |
| 19:15.31 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: now, trying to do a desktop client |
| 19:15.40 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: in qml |
| 19:16.04 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: and i ve the feeling i'm reinventing a squared wheel |
| 19:16.17 | ZogG_laptop | =P |
| 19:16.19 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: didn't find any qml desktop component correct |
| 19:17.01 | khertan_ | they are unfinished, or unmaitained ... or just horrible |
| 19:17.11 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: but maybe i miss one |
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| 19:18.02 | khertan_ | i'm currently reinventing a scrollbar on text field |
| 19:18.05 | khertan_ | what a pain ! |
| 19:18.27 | ZogG_laptop | why not pure qt+python |
| 19:18.30 | ZogG_laptop | without qml |
| 19:18.37 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qbytearray.html#setRawData |
| 19:18.38 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: because ... |
| 19:18.40 | djszapi_ | this does not make a copy |
| 19:19.00 | djszapi_ | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qbytearray.html#fromRawData |
| 19:19.07 | djszapi_ | or this according to your will ... |
| 19:19.13 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: i ll like to try to have qml on desktop |
| 19:19.26 | khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: because qwidget has no future in qt5 |
| 19:19.27 | djszapi_ | khertan_ huh? |
| 19:19.37 | djszapi_ | which planet have you looked for qt desktop components in? |
| 19:19.38 | khertan_ | djszapi_: gniƩ ? |
| 19:19.46 | djszapi_ | Three are at least two very usable sets. |
| 19:19.58 | djszapi_ | but sure, go ahead, and reinvent the squared wheel ... |
| 19:20.14 | djszapi_ | there* |
| 19:20.26 | khertan_ | djszapi_: maybe i look at the right planet with too much closed eyes with baby which didn't won't to sleep |
| 19:20.41 | ZogG_laptop | khertan_: not usre if qt5 has future as well :P |
| 19:20.42 | khertan_ | djszapi_: have you a name ? i didn't find any in qt project.org |
| 19:21.00 | khertan_ | djszapi_: propably because i don't use right search term |
| 19:21.01 | djszapi_ | no, I did not get one from my parents |
| 19:21.15 | khertan_ | djszapi_: lol i mean of a qt lib :) haha |
| 19:21.21 | khertan_ | qt qml components |
| 19:21.29 | khertan_ | is really tired |
| 19:21.30 | djszapi_ | 1) Plasma Components |
| 19:21.33 | djszapi_ | 2) Qt Desktop Components |
| 19:21.40 | khertan_ | djszapi_: thx |
| 19:22.02 | khertan_ | will be better than loosing time to reinvent wheel with a stone |
| 19:22.03 | djszapi_ | 1) http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/plasma-qml-apidocs/ |
| 19:22.24 | djszapi_ | 2) http://qt.gitorious.org/qtplayground/qtdesktopcomponents |
| 19:23.27 | khertan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.38 | djszapi_ | the qt5 branch is for qt5 yes... |
| 19:24.17 | djszapi_ | even if it does not sound logical... |
| 19:25.13 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: why are you mean? =) |
| 19:25.55 | khertan_ | djszapi_: ah ... indeed... tired |
| 19:25.56 | khertan_ | :) |
| 19:25.59 | khertan_ | djszapi_: thx |
| 19:26.09 | djszapi_ | just sleep then :) |
| 19:26.27 | djszapi_ | or make bhakti yoga |
| 19:27.30 | djszapi_ | is back to polishing the patches |
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| 19:33.32 | khertan_ | djszapi_: both component aren't pure qml, they require that i compile them and package them for each target desktop (win, osx, debian, ubuntu, suse) |
| 19:34.39 | djszapi_ | huh ? |
| 19:34.45 | djszapi_ | no, they do not. |
| 19:35.35 | djszapi_ | 1) officially released stuff with available packages for any distributions, plus Windows |
| 19:35.43 | djszapi_ | 2) There are tons of people packaged them including me |
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| 20:33.45 | khertan_ | djszapi_: just an example still not in debian testing :) |
| 20:34.39 | khertan_ | djszapi_: i think i ll do a quick ui with qwidget for desktop, and then make a qml one ready for qt5 |
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| 20:39.44 | djszapi_ | ??? |
| 20:39.50 | djszapi_ | it /is/ in debian testing |
| 20:40.14 | djszapi_ | 1) http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/kde-runtime |
| 20:40.15 | khertan_ | djszapi_: really ? |
| 20:40.40 | khertan_ | ah talking of plasma |
| 20:40.48 | djszapi_ | no, it is not |
| 20:40.49 | khertan_ | was talking of qtdesktopcomponent |
| 20:40.49 | khertan_ | :) |
| 20:40.57 | khertan_ | but yes plasma is |
| 20:41.02 | khertan_ | so lets go for plasma one |
| 20:41.03 | khertan_ | :) |
| 20:41.19 | djszapi_ | just because something is not in testing, it does not make your reinvention in debian testing even earlier than that... |
| 20:41.32 | khertan_ | djszapi_: yep |
| 20:42.21 | khertan_ | djszapi_: but it can focus on devel and package only of my apps |
| 20:44.38 | djszapi_ | yes, sure taking an already packaged project which is not in debian testing is more difficult than reinventing the whole wheel from scratch that many people have made for months... |
| 20:44.42 | djszapi_ | good job ! |
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| 21:00.33 | HtheB | who is |||||| ? |
| 21:02.00 | HtheB | O_o |
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| 21:08.51 | djszapi_ | HtheB: everybody |
| 21:09.50 | HtheB | got a private message from |||||| telling me something about pr1.3 for N950 ... |
| 21:10.55 | rashm2k | thank you djszapi_!!! |
| 21:11.46 | rashm2k | there are too many methods to change! It would too much work which is what I am trying to get away from! |
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| 21:18.07 | rm_work | So, has anyone figured out how to fix the super-annoying bugs in the SMS app with N950 + landscape mode with keyboard? |
| 21:18.15 | rm_work | (hardware keyboard) |
| 21:18.30 | HtheB | rm_work, nope |
| 21:18.47 | rm_work | T_T |
| 21:19.04 | arcean | rm_work: the space between text entry and bottom toolbar? |
| 21:19.05 | HtheB | have alook http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84330 |
| 21:19.28 | rm_work | arcean: among others, yes |
| 21:19.51 | rm_work | HtheB: yeah, also that, among *others* still :P |
| 21:20.00 | rm_work | i am used to just backspacing every smiley |
| 21:20.10 | rm_work | and it doesn't capitalize more than the first one if i type REALLY slow |
| 21:20.18 | rm_work | which defeats the point of having the hardware keyboard >_> |
| 21:22.29 | arcean | HtheB: I don't have this problem :P |
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| 21:22.52 | rm_work | arcean: really? |
| 21:23.31 | arcean | IIRC, but I'm going to check |
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| 21:52.19 | khertan_ | djszapi_: the purpose isn't to reinvent the wheel ... didn't have time for that ... |
| 21:52.34 | khertan_ | djszapi_: i'm just looking for the best wheel to use |
| 21:55.53 | djszapi_ | ... so what is the problem? |
| 21:56.03 | djszapi_ | I told you the ingredients... |
| 21:57.18 | pa | any idea how to serialize a QVariantList of QVariantLists (of QVariantLists...) |
| 21:57.19 | pa | ? |
| 21:57.33 | pa | to a string or whatever |
| 21:57.58 | pa | essentially a n-ary tree to a string |
| 21:59.06 | djszapi_ | I do not understand what the problem is |
| 21:59.13 | djszapi_ | isn't this trivial ? :) |
| 22:00.02 | djszapi_ | fire up an output stream... |
| 22:01.52 | pa | hm.. and? |
| 22:02.12 | djszapi_ | and done? |
| 22:02.15 | pa | hm ok, maybe it's easy yes.. |
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| 22:35.49 | wook | hi ppl |
| 22:36.52 | wook | i am trying to make simple c app in qtsdk that will play with gconf, but: error: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory |
| 22:39.43 | wook | *qt creator |
| 22:39.45 | wook | :S |
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| 23:06.40 | jonni | ah, wook didnt want to wait for the answer :) |
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| 23:12.39 | heymaster-laptop | jonni: :) |
| 23:17.53 | jonni | maybe he googled for answer (PKGCONFIG += gconf-2.0 to .pro file), or he can google the channel log later :) |
| 23:18.47 | heymaster-laptop | nice :) |
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