| 00:02.19 | merlin1991 | is getting close to an almost full landscape n950 |
| 00:03.20 | Estel_ | nice to hear :) |
| 00:03.39 | Estel_ | as tilting head to accomodate for portrait mode with keyboard out is driving me mad |
| 00:03.56 | Estel_ | BTW, hellix antennas sitting next to grounded alu backplate? wtf? |
| 00:04.17 | Estel_ | they could have put directional ones, aimed ! outside N900, why the hell helix? |
| 00:04.27 | Estel_ | s/!/@/ |
| 00:04.47 | Estel_ | oh damn, N950, not N900, habit. |
| 00:05.13 | arcean | merlin1991: so what did you tweak? :D |
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| 00:08.34 | ZogG_laptop | ~ping |
| 00:08.34 | infobot | ~pong |
| 00:08.38 | ZogG_laptop | hmm |
| 00:09.32 | merlin1991 | arcean: 1 file in duicontrolpanel |
| 00:09.38 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 00:09.42 | merlin1991 | and 2 stylesheets |
| 00:09.46 | arcean | ahh, yeah :) |
| 00:09.55 | arcean | did you try Vesuri patch for MTF? |
| 00:10.04 | merlin1991 | I'm taking the other approach :D |
| 00:10.16 | merlin1991 | atm building duicontrolpanel to incept an unlocked version |
| 00:10.37 | merlin1991 | funny thing is, that duicontrolpanel decalares "NON-MEEGO" during the build xD |
| 00:10.58 | ZogG_laptop | damn, that's the talks i was eactly hoping for after CA =) |
| 00:11.08 | arcean | the other apporach won't fix some other things, like e.g. _always_ rotating windows to landscape when hwkb is open |
| 00:11.16 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: because harmattan is not meego =P |
| 00:11.42 | arcean | merlin1991: 2 stylesheets? :D |
| 00:11.47 | merlin1991 | arcean: actually I prefer it that it autoswitches to landscape when I have the keyboard open |
| 00:11.55 | Estel_ | hey, N950 also have test connectors for antennas! |
| 00:11.58 | ZogG_laptop | arcean: why do you want open kbd and stay in portrait? |
| 00:12.03 | Estel_ | is looking at N950's motherboard |
| 00:12.23 | merlin1991 | arcean: /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/sysuid/style/sysuid.css and /usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch/meegotouchhome/style/meegotouchhome.css |
| 00:12.32 | ZogG_laptop | Estel_: just read fmc, it's all there |
| 00:12.39 | beford | and its broken |
| 00:12.41 | arcean | wut? I meant patched MTF forces landscape mode when hwkb is open |
| 00:12.48 | merlin1991 | oh :D |
| 00:12.56 | merlin1991 | then I missunderstood you :D |
| 00:13.01 | arcean | https://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/commit/931b3c0b4ba0a5db6c3bd5a736b193aa7ec527ab |
| 00:13.07 | Estel_ | fmc are full of erratas, unfortunately |
| 00:13.18 | ZogG_laptop | beford: aaaaaand it's gone! (c) southpark |
| 00:13.18 | Estel_ | see fmtx being unconnected to antennas :( |
| 00:13.30 | arcean | that one commit changes a _lot_ :D |
| 00:13.59 | merlin1991 | btw arcean I've went through the qml of sdk-connectivity-tool in order to get it to landscape aswell |
| 00:14.06 | merlin1991 | in the end it was a 8 line patch xD |
| 00:14.08 | beford | RevBy: TrustMe |
| 00:14.25 | arcean | :D |
| 00:14.55 | arcean | merlin1991: we have to make a place with such things for n950 owners :D |
| 00:15.07 | merlin1991 | yeah but my patches are on top of pr 1.2 :/ |
| 00:15.24 | merlin1991 | btw does anybody have the dvd for pr1.3 already? |
| 00:16.07 | arcean | no, what are you looking for? |
| 00:16.25 | merlin1991 | the sources in general :D |
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| 00:18.58 | arcean | heh |
| 00:19.17 | arcean | typing on hwkb launches Searching app in landscape |
| 00:19.29 | arcean | old Maemo way :) |
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| 00:21.22 | merlin1991 | arf I hate the harm mp |
| 00:22.05 | arcean | yeah, I have removed it |
| 00:22.14 | merlin1991 | well I still have it |
| 00:22.24 | arcean | still :D |
| 00:22.28 | merlin1991 | and just foobared apt by installing a newer package below |
| 00:22.41 | beford | mp? |
| 00:23.17 | arcean | metapackage |
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| 00:23.31 | merlin1991 | but I am fcking awesome :) |
| 00:23.42 | merlin1991 | in other words it worked .) |
| 00:23.59 | merlin1991 | now I have everything landscape except for the non landscape closed apps |
| 00:24.18 | merlin1991 | but I'll have to make sure, that all applets are cosher |
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| 00:30.23 | merlin1991 | hm nothing is more fun than editing /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 00:30.24 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 00:31.04 | merlin1991 | I should do a simple s/(=/(>=/ on the harm mp depends line xD |
| 00:33.21 | Estel_ | Well, I performer almsot full tear-down of N950, need to make high-res photos now... |
| 00:33.51 | Estel_ | The only thing I'm not sure about is if flex cable is disconnectable from MB, as I don't see obvious connector, and wouldn't like to tear it... ;) |
| 00:34.27 | Estel_ | we have 4 hirose u.fl connectors, cellular, wifi, GPs, and...? |
| 00:34.31 | Estel_ | interesting |
| 00:35.52 | merlin1991 | uh oh found the first on that is bad |
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| 00:49.54 | merlin1991 | hm and I have to find out why I can't use all the help buttons anymore |
| 00:50.08 | arcean | merlin1991: :P |
| 00:50.24 | arcean | merlin1991: do you have user guide installed? |
| 00:50.46 | merlin1991 | no |
| 00:50.47 | merlin1991 | oO |
| 00:51.00 | arcean | that's why it's not working :D |
| 00:51.08 | merlin1991 | do you know the package name? |
| 00:51.17 | arcean | hmm, sec |
| 00:52.28 | arcean | userguide-content-guard userguide userguide-content |
| 00:52.46 | arcean | you will have to use N9 repo IIRC |
| 00:53.34 | merlin1991 | yep only userguide-content avaiable from the n950 repo |
| 00:55.07 | merlin1991 | okay I have to work on two or three applets and see if I can adjust a few other programs |
| 00:55.28 | merlin1991 | everything works in landscape but a few things are ugly |
| 00:55.39 | arcean | yeah |
| 00:55.55 | arcean | Music and Video needs some CSS tuning |
| 00:56.45 | arcean | ahh, you mean applets :P |
| 00:57.00 | merlin1991 | control panel applets |
| 00:57.08 | merlin1991 | every single line in the main view is already an applet |
| 00:57.51 | arcean | there's something wrong with transitions in landscape, when entering a new applet |
| 00:57.56 | merlin1991 | music, video, usb / tv-out, certificates, mail, ringtones, textinput and twitter |
| 00:57.59 | merlin1991 | not really |
| 00:58.26 | merlin1991 | it does not go to the left but moves the old applet to the top of the screen and brings in the new on from the right |
| 00:58.39 | merlin1991 | so it looks odd |
| 00:59.06 | merlin1991 | I'll see how much of those I can fix without editing on device files :) |
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| 01:04.03 | arcean | ok, I'm heading to bed, cya :) |
| 01:05.52 | merlin1991 | arf ofc the control panel applets on the n950 are slightly off in the version compared to the n9 pr1.2 sources |
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| 01:37.45 | Estel_ | I've noticed 5 testpads next to USB port on N950's motherboard. could it be testpads for USB port? :) |
| 01:37.48 | Estel_ | is investigating |
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| 01:55.55 | aia832003 | hello, I am a new N9 owner and have a question |
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| 02:01.57 | merlin1991 | ~ask |
| 02:01.57 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 02:02.41 | merlin1991 | btw anybody ever requested the sources of the n950 pr1.2 beta release |
| 02:02.49 | merlin1991 | s/ase/ase?/ |
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| 03:59.43 | Estel_ | anyone got experiences with screen protectors and N950? (unusual screen shape, curved a little). N9 screen protectors fit well? |
| 04:00.25 | Estel_ | BTW, full disassembling - to single possible piece - and assembliong again finished successfuly |
| 04:00.52 | Estel_ | if anyone - like me - though that connecting back N900's screen flat cable was a bitch to do, should try assembling N950's screen tilt mechanism |
| 04:01.00 | Estel_ | took me at least 340 minutes, this sole element |
| 04:01.24 | Estel_ | not to mention that needed to reverse-engineer where all those springs should be places, as they jumped out during disassemble |
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| 07:48.32 | pa | ok, actually not. backlighter is not working |
| 07:48.39 | pa | or.. it doesnt do what i need |
| 07:48.42 | pa | sigh |
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| 08:22.11 | chem|st | Estel_: we here already know that your "engineering" skills aren't what you think they are (n900 - 25minutes without domesheet, you get better if you draw wheat-beer over it^^), screens n9vsn950 are close to be the same but just close |
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| 08:40.25 | ab | chem|st: n9 and n950 have very different screens technology-wise |
| 08:43.48 | chem|st | ab: he was talking about the dimenstions of the glas surface |
| 08:44.40 | ab | 3.9" vs 4.0" |
| 08:44.48 | ab | OLED vs LCD |
| 08:45.32 | chem|st | ab: we are not talking about the display panel... |
| 08:46.08 | chem|st | screenprotector: will n9 protectors fit n950s |
| 08:46.13 | Arkenoi | Estel_, can you identify screen manufacturer and model number for n950? |
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| 08:48.58 | Arkenoi | merlin1991, do contacts work in landscape? |
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| 09:11.00 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: there pr1.2 source |
| 09:14.49 | Pali | is there some hacks or other way for forced autorotation for n950 as on nokia n900? |
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| 09:18.13 | ZogG_laptop | Pali: i know only about few apps for sure |
| 09:18.37 | ZogG_laptop | Pali: there is thread on TMO about how to enable in autorotation |
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| 09:21.37 | Pali | do you have link? |
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| 09:30.48 | jonni | Pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85425 |
| 09:31.03 | Pali | thanks! |
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| 09:36.20 | Arkenoi | huh? twitter works in the landscape out of the box or did i miss something? |
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| 09:47.27 | ZogG_laptop | Pali: sorry was timeouted. As well there are hacks for homescreen, lockscreen and others. few of those scripts in n9tweaks |
| 09:47.39 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: sup |
| 09:47.55 | Pali | I found something on wiki.meego.com/N950 |
| 09:49.10 | ZogG_laptop | Pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80600&highlight=n9tweak |
| 09:49.50 | Pali | "This script work properly only on PR 1.3 and base/blanco theme !!!" |
| 09:50.01 | Pali | I have N950 with PR1.2 |
| 09:50.04 | ZogG_laptop | that app is actually all the hacks and scripts all together. it works only with pr1.3 now i think, but prev versions work with 1.2 as well as you can just check the source |
| 09:50.16 | ZogG_laptop | Pali: prev versions were only for 1.2 =) |
| 09:50.26 | Pali | ok |
| 09:50.28 | ZogG_laptop | and prev prev were only for 1.1 =) |
| 09:51.19 | ZogG_laptop | but better to ask schturman himself |
| 09:53.27 | ZogG_laptop | Pali: there is new toggle for orientation MohammadAG made for his unrestricted system-ui |
| 09:53.53 | ZogG_laptop | Pali: just add his incepted repo, i think it would work with n950 too, but better check thread |
| 09:54.03 | ZogG_laptop | for both =) |
| 09:55.54 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: just idling :) |
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| 09:56.46 | ZogG_lap1op | Pali: sorry timeouting |
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| 10:09.56 | ZogG_lap1op | arcean: saw screenshots of led ocnfigs - nice |
| 10:10.27 | ZogG_lap1op | arcean: i'll wait till you merge with MohammadAG's version =P |
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| 12:03.48 | Lava_Croft | \o/ nexus7 arrived |
| 12:04.06 | Lava_Croft | it runs minecraft great and since thats the only reason to own a nexus7, its hooray |
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| 12:04.58 | chem|st | Pali: do you know where to get bootreason from on n9/50? |
| 12:05.44 | Pali | chm|st, I did play with it, but last year I was that dsme getboostate open source code getting bootreason from /proc/cmdline |
| 12:06.08 | Pali | chem|st, but I do not know if this code was used on n9/50... |
| 12:06.53 | Pali | if it is really in /proc/cmdline, then bootreason append NOLO to kernel command line |
| 12:07.18 | chem|st | qmsystem is api lib to it |
| 12:07.43 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer51 said he will have a look for me but also said that you might know |
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| 12:09.18 | chem|st | Pali: yeah it is in /proc/cmdline |
| 12:09.24 | Pali | ok |
| 12:10.24 | chem|st | damn I needed to reboot cause ui hung... |
| 12:10.58 | chem|st | need to wait for next random reboot... but I guess it was profilematic or organiser feed |
| 12:11.27 | chem|st | oh could be fotoshare too... |
| 12:11.33 | chem|st | one of the three |
| 12:11.45 | chem|st | or the combination of all three |
| 12:13.43 | chem|st | either way a devel tool making use of qmsystem with logging capability would make it much easier to point out any issues regarding starting/stoping/reloading services or programs |
| 12:17.03 | chem|st | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/examples/api_showcase.html |
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| 12:37.46 | khertan | Hello ! |
| 12:38.45 | khertan | still no hope in a 1.3 for n950 ? or at least an update of the qt components ? |
| 12:38.46 | khertan | :) |
| 12:42.40 | clau | I still didn't get it on my n9 :| |
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| 13:12.03 | khertan | http://khertan.net/KhtNotes |
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| 13:23.03 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: chem|st the problem in rawcam is aegis |
| 13:23.29 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: till i get home to check it, can you test something? |
| 13:23.36 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: do you have inception? |
| 13:24.01 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: what kind of problem? |
| 13:24.23 | chem|st | ZogG_laptop: nope |
| 13:24.49 | chem|st | ZogG_laptop: the binaries from tmo work... |
| 13:25.12 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: it works for them as dev when deploying from qtcreator but not as user |
| 13:25.19 | ZogG_laptop | it's obvs aegis i think |
| 13:25.37 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1241926&postcount=34 |
| 13:25.42 | jonni | most likely just missing come capas in aegis.manifest |
| 13:26.17 | ZogG_laptop | i'm currently in bus and laptop battery is going low, so i don't want to check it right now |
| 13:26.41 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: yeah i think so too, i wanted to clone his repo and try to build it myself |
| 13:26.41 | jonni | as qtcreator uses develsh which has ovi credentials as default, and user in other hand has no capas, unless you have ovi signature in it. |
| 13:27.17 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: btw ovi signature, what rights does it give? |
| 13:27.26 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: i wanted to ask you about kernel few questions |
| 13:27.31 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: ovi signature gives same capas as develsh |
| 13:28.00 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: how hard it would be to take out all Nokia changes and appl them to newer kernel |
| 13:28.06 | ZogG_laptop | i want to update kernel |
| 13:28.13 | jonni | which is also same capas as apps4meego signature. |
| 13:28.17 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: btw it would be usefull to add maybe OTGO |
| 13:29.28 | jonni | so rawcam will work with proprt aegis manigest + apps4meego signature / ovistore signature / inception / AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN kludge. |
| 13:29.38 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: and bump someone at nokia to release pr1.3 for n950 =P |
| 13:29.40 | jonni | s/proprt/proper/ |
| 13:30.08 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: yeah that i know, its not my app. i just wanted to help, but had no time |
| 13:30.36 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: what about kernel? would it be too hard to do it> |
| 13:30.37 | ZogG_laptop | ? |
| 13:31.08 | merlin1991 | ZogG_laptop: I've asked about n950 1.2 sources because they are not exactly 1.2 sources |
| 13:31.37 | merlin1991 | ie the contolpanel applets on the n950 have a version of 0.2 lower than the 1.2 public release |
| 13:31.53 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: well in theory you can diff against vanilla, and make patchset, and apply that set against new kernel, (and merge conflicts by hand). so its doable, but I dont see many people in community playing with kernel. |
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| 13:32.09 | ZogG_lap1op | jonni: what about kernel? would it be too hard to do it? |
| 13:32.20 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: I was talking about kernel. |
| 13:32.49 | ZogG_lap1op | timeouted and missed it |
| 13:32.54 | ZogG_lap1op | lemme refresh log |
| 13:33.00 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: well in theory you can diff against vanilla, and make patchset, and apply that set against new kernel, (and merge conflicts by hand). so its doable, but I dont see many people in community playing with kernel. |
| 13:33.41 | ZogG_lap1op | jonni: i want to do it, but only if it's reasonable (time) and if it can be helpful |
| 13:34.02 | ZogG_lap1op | jonni: but it would be only aegis free one right? i mean open-mode |
| 13:35.03 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: well yes open-mode only if you want to use it in harmattan. You can in theory do custom kernel in sillyboot for nitroid, but there is even less users in there. |
| 13:36.05 | ZogG_lap1op | jonni: i hope for CSSU, and other distros |
| 13:37.00 | ZogG_lap1op | jonni: currently i have funtoo as second boot on n950, but still works not properly. need to tweak more to get it on somehow stable state |
| 13:37.32 | ZogG_lap1op | jonni: but it can be useful i think |
| 13:37.51 | ZogG_lap1op | i don't think we gonna get 1.4 anyway |
| 13:38.00 | ZogG_lap1op | itsnotabigtruck: is pr1.4 out already? =) |
| 13:38.00 | MohammadAG | oh wow http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/apple-wins-eu-wide-ban-on-galaxy-tab-7-7-tab-10-1n-not-covered/ |
| 13:38.46 | ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: affaik in london they force them to state on site that galaxy didn't copy threm |
| 13:39.01 | MohammadAG | it's an EU wide ban |
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| 13:40.47 | ZogG_lap1op | it's idiotic |
| 13:40.59 | ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: btw left jerusalem |
| 13:41.05 | ZogG_lap1op | not on the way to karmiel |
| 13:41.26 | MohammadAG | why? |
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| 13:42.25 | MohammadAG | how does one create a file with C code? |
| 13:42.35 | ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: escorting my mom to grandma house |
| 13:42.41 | ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: fopen ? |
| 13:42.43 | MohammadAG | oh :) |
| 13:42.57 | MohammadAG | I'm trying to touch a file in a segfault |
| 13:43.07 | ZogG_lap1op | fopen(file,"r") or something like that |
| 13:43.11 | MohammadAG | well, in a sigaction called when a segfault occurs |
| 13:43.21 | MohammadAG | I'm not sure if using QFile is safe |
| 13:43.38 | ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: if you would be able to close it in time =0 |
| 13:44.05 | ZogG_lap1op | merlin1991: the pr1.2 on n950 is beta so it's different from n9 |
| 13:44.26 | ZogG_lap1op | merlin1991: on n9 it's release |
| 13:44.43 | ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: Pelephones internet sucks |
| 13:45.04 | ZogG_lap1op | ~ping |
| 13:45.04 | infobot | ~pong |
| 13:45.05 | MohammadAG | ZogG_lap1op, tell me about it |
| 13:45.33 | ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: i had second phone at pelephone as soldier, they stold money from me |
| 13:45.42 | ZogG_lap1op | hate them from than |
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| 13:48.11 | ZogG_laptop | just reconnected and has lag |
| 13:48.16 | ZogG_laptop | damn it |
| 13:51.26 | ZogG_laptop | anyone in EU here? |
| 13:52.02 | ZogG_laptop | i' mgonna ask nokia for pr1.3 sources, but it's better if someone from EU ask as well, you'll get faster |
| 13:52.31 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, I just hate pelephone in general |
| 13:53.40 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: i hate all Israel companies for service and how they freely F you in any possible situation |
| 13:55.21 | ZogG_laptop | ok i'll try t save battery and to sleep on bus |
| 13:55.31 | ZogG_laptop | anyway it reconnects everytime |
| 13:55.39 | ZogG_laptop | and i have not much battery |
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| 14:17.51 | khertan | who should i contact for a package that is build on the cobs but not appear on the repository ? |
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| 14:30.28 | rcg | khertan: you have publishing enabled? |
| 14:31.00 | rcg | just to check |
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| 14:38.25 | khertan | rcg: hum ... it should |
| 14:38.28 | khertan | will check :) |
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| 14:41.16 | khertan | rcg: yep :) |
| 14:41.24 | khertan | publish is enabled |
| 14:44.33 | rcg | khertan: i see, is it KhtNotes? |
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| 14:47.43 | arcean | merlin1991: you're looking for this? http://meego.gitorious.net/meegotouch/meegotouch-controlpanelapplets/commits/pr12dali |
| 14:51.48 | khertan | rcg: yep |
| 14:52.03 | khertan | rcg: sorry for the delay boss was in the room |
| 14:52.04 | khertan | :) |
| 14:52.27 | rcg | ;) |
| 14:52.56 | rcg | well, sorry.. gotta go |
| 14:53.06 | rcg | might try to ping X-Fade or lbt iirc |
| 14:53.40 | rcg | i had some issues with publishing of results due to some aegis stuff |
| 14:53.55 | rcg | but thats about a year ago |
| 14:54.00 | khertan | rcg: no problem you're welcome |
| 14:54.30 | khertan | X-Fade, lbt: ping |
| 14:55.12 | rcg | bbl |
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| 15:08.31 | Estel_ | <chem|st> [10:22] Estel_: we here already know that your "engineering" skills aren't what you think they are (n900 - 25minutes without domesheet, you get better if you draw wheat-beer over it^^), screens n9vsn950 are close to be the same but just close |
| 15:08.35 | Estel_ | chem|st,^^^ |
| 15:08.48 | Estel_ | can't parse what You mean by 25 minutes, sorry, could You rephrase in english? |
| 15:09.08 | Estel_ | as for screen, oI know googleable details, but thanks anyway ;) I'm asking about practice |
| 15:09.12 | chem|st | Estel_: the screens of n9 and n950 are not the same |
| 15:09.24 | chem|st | in terms of screen protectors |
| 15:09.26 | Estel_ | as for rest, I really don't get what you mean, expect for part where you're trying to troll me ;) |
| 15:09.33 | chem|st | but it might fit anyway |
| 15:09.34 | Estel_ | yes. So? |
| 15:09.44 | chem|st | Estel_: you asked |
| 15:09.54 | Estel_ | one is amoled with glass coated in conductive, transparent thingy |
| 15:10.11 | Estel_ | that's why I'm asking n950 owners about *practical* experiences |
| 15:10.14 | chem|st | not you too.... |
| 15:10.31 | chem|st | WE ARE SPEAKING OF SCREENPROTECTOR NOT OF DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY! |
| 15:10.33 | Estel_ | but what You mean in 25 minutes without domesheet part? |
| 15:11.05 | Estel_ | yes, no need to write in caps. I'm asking about *practical* experiences with screen protectors on N950 |
| 15:11.06 | chem|st | I disassamble and reassamble n900 in 25minutes without replacing domesheet |
| 15:11.20 | Estel_ | nice, so what? |
| 15:11.29 | chem|st | Estel_: you do not need a screenprotector |
| 15:12.01 | Estel_ | sure, i do not need phone too, but what's the point? N950 screen isn't scratch-resistant |
| 15:12.19 | Estel_ | digitizer, in fact |
| 15:12.30 | chem|st | if you are thinking of daily usage you might need depending on your way of careing |
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| 15:12.55 | khertan | Estel_: don't put it with you car key in the pocket and you ll not have any problem |
| 15:13.03 | Estel_ | I *want* it, not *need*, because I want to preserve N950 unreplaceable digitizer in ideal condition |
| 15:13.03 | khertan | mine is one year old. |
| 15:13.10 | khertan | no scratch on screen |
| 15:13.30 | MohammadAG | will sell kidney for popcorn, I really need it right now |
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| 15:13.48 | MohammadAG | khertan, accidents happen :P |
| 15:14.01 | khertan | just two corner of the plastic case that are a bit .... melted ... a nice 8 meters drop |
| 15:14.06 | khertan | MohammadAG: yep :) |
| 15:14.13 | Estel_ | khertan, on n900, I have separate pocket for it, yet, i know how my screen protector looks after month ;) |
| 15:14.27 | Estel_ | the problem is, that for N950 You can't buy giditizer replacement, any normal way |
| 15:14.37 | Estel_ | so preserving it in ideal condition is top priority now |
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| 15:15.26 | chem|st | ZogG: EU? |
| 15:15.32 | khertan | i think you should better buy a complete case that just screen protector |
| 15:15.38 | Estel_ | Arkenoi, found lotta hell of numbers on screen, but none googleablke |
| 15:15.40 | khertan | s/that/than |
| 15:15.42 | Estel_ | googleable* |
| 15:15.52 | Estel_ | if You can give some pointers, I may try to identify manuf. |
| 15:16.04 | Estel_ | khertan, complete case I'm doing on my own ;) |
| 15:16.12 | khertan | my n950 jump of my head a morning when i try to open the keyboard |
| 15:16.18 | khertan | s/head/hand |
| 15:16.19 | khertan | :) |
| 15:16.23 | Estel_ | :) |
| 15:16.37 | Estel_ | well, i've already did some initial sketches of custom body replacement for N950 too |
| 15:16.46 | chem|st | Estel_: n900 screen protectors look like shit after minutes, I ripped one of the minute after I attached it... |
| 15:16.48 | Estel_ | would like to make bigger cover for 7Ah battery, one day |
| 15:16.58 | Estel_ | (although, custom body replacement for N900 is priority now) |
| 15:17.18 | Estel_ | chem|st, depends on type, I got few favorite manufacturers of screen protectors (cheap ones) |
| 15:17.24 | khertan | i was on a bridge and fly 8 meters and then bounce on asphalt |
| 15:17.47 | Estel_ | well, once I "meet* screen protector, that destroyed digitizer surface after ripping it off (it looked like shit after applying), so I don't experiment with new ones |
| 15:18.10 | Estel_ | khertan, sure, but it was pure look, other people managed to break screen from half a meter |
| 15:18.29 | Estel_ | in all normal conditions, from 8 meters, You should be RIP |
| 15:18.34 | Estel_ | as rest in pieces |
| 15:18.38 | Estel_ | not You |
| 15:18.39 | Estel_ | Your* |
| 15:18.41 | Estel_ | ;) |
| 15:18.46 | khertan | yep .. was lucky |
| 15:19.30 | Estel_ | again, I was amazed by ammount of free space inside N950 body (covered by alu just as filler), it got nice potential for meeega battery power, if presented with custom body |
| 15:20.15 | Estel_ | with two 18650, You can still have less thickness than N900 with Mugen cover (and the latter is OK thickness for me, very comfortabe for writing on HW keyboard) |
| 15:20.41 | Estel_ | but, first things first, N950 must wait before I finalize CNC refinning and N900 backcovers and bodies |
| 15:21.37 | Estel_ | chem|st, out of curiosity, why disassembling and assembling N900 take as much as 25 minutes for You? 6 screws + another same for screen, + flat cable, basically? |
| 15:22.03 | Estel_ | sure, flat cable is a #@$# to connect, but after some practice, You should be able to put it on 1st/2nd try max |
| 15:22.34 | saidinesh5 | hi guys.. i m having a problem launchiing a PySide app in scratchbox environment |
| 15:22.37 | virtuald | Maybe it's heatsink for GPS... Don't know if aluminium is suitable, just guessing |
| 15:22.39 | saidinesh5 | http://paste.kde.org/521900/ |
| 15:23.19 | saidinesh5 | this is the error log: it ends with :ASSERT: "idx >= 0 && idx < d->type->d->names.count()" in file util/qdeclarativeopenmetaobject.cpp, line 370 |
| 15:23.19 | saidinesh5 | any ideas? |
| 15:23.20 | Estel_ | virtuald, alu is suitable, but it's hardly heatsink by design in N950 |
| 15:23.30 | virtuald | Ok |
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| 15:26.22 | MohammadAG | http://i49.tinypic.com/2607g4g.jpg :) |
| 15:26.42 | MohammadAG | that should solve broken plugins causing bootloops |
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| 15:38.58 | RST38h | Mohammad: called Microsoft Word |
| 15:39.20 | RST38h | Mohammad: but believe me you do not want to do it. Just write HTML by hand, it is real easy |
| 15:40.18 | RST38h | Mohammad: Can be explained in 2-3 IRC messages even :) |
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| 15:56.03 | MohammadAG | this'll have to do http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/system-ui-safe-mode-help.html |
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| 16:13.56 | RST38h | MohammadAG: Argh! Word-generated HTML! |
| 16:14.31 | RST38h | threatens MohammadAG with a pitchfork |
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| 16:38.39 | arcean | ZogG_laptop: http://i.imgur.com/VzUtj.png |
| 16:38.54 | arcean | does it look like on the ancient harmattan version? |
| 16:39.21 | ZogG_laptop | arcean: nope |
| 16:39.30 | ZogG_laptop | arcean: i don't have old version anymore btw |
| 16:39.37 | arcean | :< |
| 16:40.00 | ZogG_laptop | arcean: i think icons were different and it wasn't that short |
| 16:40.09 | ZogG_laptop | arcean: check the video |
| 16:40.22 | arcean | backup of the themes would be great :) |
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| 16:40.32 | arcean | yeah, I know, it's scratchbox |
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| 16:42.43 | arcean | it's short because I don't have any plugin here |
| 16:44.40 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: ping |
| 16:49.49 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: ping |
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| 16:52.31 | faenil | how can I add harmattan target to qtcreator 2.5.0? |
| 16:55.27 | faenil | ok I think I'm doing it myself ;) |
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| 17:44.09 | MohammadAG | This coderus guy is fucking annoying |
| 17:45.02 | pa | the one of the radio? |
| 17:45.37 | MohammadAG | hm? |
| 17:45.50 | MohammadAG | no, the one that conflicted a package based on a personal argument |
| 17:46.15 | MohammadAG | I really don't care, but if this causes me issues with users bitching about my packages, I'm leaving Harmattan |
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| 17:51.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | yeah, come back to fremantle! ;-P |
| 17:53.14 | MohammadAG | sorry, but if that happens I'm going to iOS |
| 17:53.42 | MohammadAG | selling N9 and the Lumia 800 to get a 4S and a 5 when that's out |
| 17:54.36 | rzr | we have to do something :) |
| 17:59.35 | rzr | MohammadAG, have you found a common denominator between ios and linux mobile ? I recently built gnustep but donno if it worth a try |
| 18:01.07 | MohammadAG | rzr, I just find iOS very close to the N900 |
| 18:01.11 | rzr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1241406#post1241406 |
| 18:01.17 | MohammadAG | not in terms of openness, but in terms of hackiness |
| 18:01.33 | MohammadAG | sure it requires LD_PRELOAD-like hacks, but better than android |
| 18:01.54 | MohammadAG | rzr, what's gnustep? |
| 18:02.09 | rzr | the root of mox |
| 18:02.25 | rzr | nextstep framework |
| 18:02.32 | rzr | before cocoa |
| 18:02.54 | rzr | API like fundations etc are same |
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| 18:08.55 | heymaster-laptop | rzr: you will try port opensource iPhone apps ? |
| 18:09.27 | rzr | me ? |
| 18:09.42 | rzr | this is a challenge for MohammadAG |
| 18:09.53 | heymaster-laptop | ahh, ok |
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| 18:10.59 | heymaster-laptop | rzr: maybe cocoa would be easier to port |
| 18:11.32 | heymaster-laptop | i say cocoa apps |
| 18:12.05 | rzr | worth a try yes |
| 18:12.11 | rzr | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=116&release_id=240# |
| 18:13.14 | Estel_ | ok, little question - how to change camera focus in goddamn camera pp of N950? |
| 18:13.20 | Estel_ | not pr 1.2 yet, mind You |
| 18:13.43 | Estel_ | this crap allow me to select macro, but doesn't allow me to focus on it, actually, keepin ~5m focus |
| 18:15.18 | heymaster-laptop | rzr: looks like old packages, objc very fast evolving |
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| 18:20.14 | pa | question |
| 18:20.25 | pa | anyone familiar with gps data? |
| 18:20.41 | pa | what exactly is "gps filtering"? |
| 18:21.31 | chem|st | ZogG: pong |
| 18:23.19 | pa | just averaging multiple samples? |
| 18:23.23 | chem|st | pa: accuracy |
| 18:23.37 | chem|st | depends on the used algorythm |
| 18:23.49 | pa | let say the best one, what is it about? |
| 18:24.50 | chem|st | the best one? you mean the "best" filter? that is where you still have a good track but no filesize at all! |
| 18:25.39 | pa | no |
| 18:25.44 | pa | the best algorithm to filter gps data |
| 18:26.00 | pa | to compute the most accurate track |
| 18:26.06 | chem|st | filtering takes place for view or saving tracks |
| 18:26.15 | pa | yes |
| 18:26.18 | pa | or computing info |
| 18:26.20 | pa | such as speed |
| 18:26.23 | pa | or distance |
| 18:26.39 | pa | and for that you want to have the most accurate path data possible, right? |
| 18:26.49 | pa | otherwise you might be too fast or too slow, and distance might be off |
| 18:27.04 | chem|st | speed is averaging already |
| 18:27.39 | chem|st | well you could count in on each point but that would make you faster than light sometimes |
| 18:27.39 | pa | wel.. speed is integrating more than averaging |
| 18:28.24 | chem|st | that depends again, shown speed might be the average of 2-5 integrations |
| 18:28.47 | chem|st | and as gps is off a few meters anyhow... |
| 18:29.00 | chem|st | for pure view I would not filter at all |
| 18:29.10 | pa | let see if i can find some algo on google |
| 18:29.12 | chem|st | only for recording tracks |
| 18:29.22 | pa | ah right, kalman |
| 18:29.28 | pa | never implemented it, tho |
| 18:31.14 | pa | question: are there opencl drivers for harmattan? |
| 18:31.24 | pa | sgx530 supports it |
| 18:33.33 | MohammadAG | I've gone closed source |
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| 18:33.57 | MohammadAG | if anyone needs help with something, I'll be glad to help with some lines of code |
| 18:34.10 | pa | :) |
| 18:34.12 | pa | thanks |
| 18:34.48 | MohammadAG | rzr, there's project magnetta |
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| 18:41.00 | rzr | MohammadAG, that one is an other way |
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| 18:50.52 | pa | how is is to plot a graph in qml? |
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| 18:58.19 | MohammadAG | I don't get why kill -11 isn't triggering a SIGSEGV signal handler |
| 18:58.29 | MohammadAG | hmm, wait |
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| 19:05.40 | rzr | watched this qt vid https://twitter.com/rzrfreefr/status/227841138948730880 |
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| 19:10.38 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: about aegis, it does depend where app is iirc, right? |
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| 19:34.32 | chem|st | ZogG_laptop: pong |
| 19:36.14 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: i just wanted to try something with rawcam |
| 19:36.21 | ZogG_laptop | but i think it's less relevant now |
| 19:36.36 | ZogG_laptop | i need qwazix |
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| 19:42.13 | MohammadAG | arcean, ping |
| 19:42.26 | arcean | MohammadAG: hi |
| 19:43.08 | ZogG_lap1op | now sort out led thing =P |
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| 20:11.08 | ZogG_laptop | ghjgfjghjbn: nice nickname |
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| 20:36.32 | chem|st | how do I restart/reload mce? |
| 20:36.40 | chem|st | (so many things changed) |
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| 20:52.46 | MohammadAG | chem|st, same |
| 20:52.49 | MohammadAG | err, same way* |
| 20:53.08 | MohammadAG | /sbin isn't in path though, so either add it or use /sbin/stop etc |
| 20:53.38 | chem|st | grml |
| 20:54.06 | chem|st | ty |
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| 21:50.47 | pa | can i hook to nokia offline maps on my qt (+qml) app? |
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| 22:01.59 | chem|st | pa: I think so |
| 22:03.38 | pa | does anyone know how? |
| 22:03.41 | chem|st | pa: have a look at the api reference... |
| 22:03.48 | pa | i was checking |
| 22:03.56 | pa | maybe i have to recheck |
| 22:05.02 | chem|st | pa: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/examples/api_showcase.html |
| 22:05.25 | chem|st | I am pretty sure that uses nokia maps offline |
| 22:05.40 | pa | ah that one, i have it installed |
| 22:05.46 | pa | but it doesnt work very well |
| 22:06.06 | chem|st | it was last updated in PR1.1 I think |
| 22:06.27 | pa | ah thats why maybe |
| 22:06.33 | chem|st | some stuff is not working anymore iirc |
| 22:07.49 | chem|st | as the framework updated, but in general you should get an impression of how to build your own maps enhanced app, or phonebook or sms-tool dadadadada |
| 22:08.21 | pa | i will check it out better thanks :) |
| 22:08.36 | chem|st | I was looking for bootreason yesterday and a tool using the framework to find where it is (/proc/cmdline) and found it there |
| 22:09.39 | chem|st | it is in a lighter version in stores |
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| 22:10.16 | chem|st | that one reads fmtx and irda capable hardware^^ |
| 22:10.39 | chem|st | the one on ovi does show what is truely available |
| 22:10.58 | chem|st | sad they did not attach an antenna to the fmtx module |
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| 22:17.27 | ZogG_laptop | irda? |
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| 22:26.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: selling radio is prohibitively expensive tax-wise, in some countries |
| 22:27.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | selling FMTX might even be forbidden in some countries |
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| 22:33.41 | louisdk | Is it just me or does the N950 have a bad battery life? |
| 22:34.49 | chem|st | if there is no transmitter software included it is fine... |
| 22:35.25 | chem|st | in terms of there is no firmware for the transmitter for that region |
| 22:35.50 | louisdk | My N9 can lasts nearly 2 days, while my N950 just lasts about 12 hours. |
| 22:35.52 | arcean | louisdk: define 'bad battery life' :P |
| 22:36.16 | arcean | wow, then something's wrong |
| 22:36.44 | jonni | then you should most likely just replace the battery |
| 22:37.00 | arcean | louisdk: you can always use BV-4D battery from 808 pureview |
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| 22:38.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: they don't buy that sort of story anymore |
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| 22:39.34 | qwazix | ZogG, ping |
| 22:41.16 | chem|st | qwazix: rawcam... |
| 22:41.45 | qwazix | yep, do we have any clue why the permission error? |
| 22:42.13 | chem|st | nope, but I did not have a further look into anything but zogg did |
| 22:42.15 | qwazix | syspart.conf and manifest.aegis are the same and seem correct |
| 22:42.21 | louisdk | arcean: does that fit and works in my N950? |
| 22:42.26 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: pong |
| 22:42.42 | arcean | louisdk: without problem, battery has 1400mAh |
| 22:42.48 | qwazix | same as in qtc_packaging and debian/ |
| 22:43.20 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i may timeout as i'm from sim card i borrowed from friend and or it's my laptop or it's shitty reception but it disconnects everytime |
| 22:43.23 | arcean | heh, http://sunpow.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/bv-4d.jpg?w=573&h=430 |
| 22:43.33 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i'm trying to build it btw |
| 22:43.34 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop, saw in the log you asked for me |
| 22:44.37 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i still didn't check syspart.conf part though yet |
| 22:45.07 | qwazix | and Im slow because Ive not got used to N810 kb yet, and 8 dont know where the apostrophe is :) |
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| 22:46.04 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: haha i built it on OBS with qtcreator but forgot to add aegis as dependency, gonna rebuild |
| 22:46.20 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: lol |
| 22:46.43 | qwazix | why does it run as developer? |
| 22:47.26 | qwazix | and not as user? arent they the same (same UID) |
| 22:47.36 | ZogG_laptop | nope |
| 22:47.45 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: deeloper is like develsh |
| 22:48.12 | qwazix | oh, didnt know |
| 22:48.19 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i'm trying to make it easier for you to build and building on OBS right now |
| 22:48.40 | qwazix | thanks, appreciated |
| 22:48.46 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: it would take sometime though, just did "osc commit" |
| 22:49.18 | ZogG_laptop | it would take few mins |
| 22:51.12 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: i liked how you are asking for nexus 7 =P |
| 22:51.22 | jonni | ;) |
| 22:51.23 | qwazix | think its gonna be ok with permissions now? |
| 22:53.07 | qwazix | arcean, did you find anything re rawcam and N950? |
| 22:53.28 | arcean | qwazix: I'm afraid it's something deeper broken |
| 22:53.37 | louisdk | arcean: thanks |
| 22:54.26 | qwazix | arcean, could we possibly use a qml camera element for viewfinder and fcam for capture? |
| 22:54.40 | arcean | qwazix: but with modified libfcam images taken with n950 are ultra-sharp |
| 22:55.21 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: btw jonni is specialist in permissions =) |
| 22:55.31 | qwazix | oh, so deep... did you fix the colors? |
| 22:55.32 | arcean | qwazix: no idea |
| 22:56.36 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/ZogG/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/rawcam_0.0.3_armel.deb |
| 22:57.49 | arcean | qwazix: nope :( I've tried many combinations and all of them ends with green image |
| 22:58.12 | ZogG_laptop | arcean: it;s not a bug, it's a feature |
| 22:58.13 | louisdk | Does anyone know how to fix this: http://bit.ly/MEPN6w |
| 22:58.19 | qwazix | jonni, our problem has like this, I used one of fcam libraries examples as base to make a camera app, when built through sb all is well. When built through obs or qtcreator it requires develsh to run. syspart.conf and manifest seem to be ok. any ideas? |
| 22:58.31 | arcean | ZogG_laptop: :) |
| 22:58.37 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: can you try this deb? |
| 22:58.47 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: ^ one in link above |
| 22:58.53 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop, going to try now |
| 22:59.30 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i was just in middle of installing something else, gonna try too |
| 23:00.13 | qwazix | waiting for povbot to htmlize the log to avoid typing the url on N9 |
| 23:00.22 | jonni | qwazix: my quess is that its missing the manifest on qtcreator build, since there is currently a 'feature' in qtcreator that it doesnt include aegis manifest in to the deb package by default.. :), have you checked with ar that there really is aegis manifest on the package that you create with creator? |
| 23:01.07 | qwazix | hmm, no... but why obs fails too? |
| 23:01.33 | jonni | maybe it has the same feature? :) |
| 23:01.34 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i used qrcode |
| 23:01.40 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: installing it |
| 23:01.55 | jonni | qwazix: atleast I would first check if there is even manifest in deb, and then go from there :) |
| 23:02.14 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: opens for me |
| 23:02.21 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop, installing here too |
| 23:02.37 | qwazix | works |
| 23:02.44 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i just opened app and i works |
| 23:02.45 | jonni | qwazix: atleast I noticed that on latest qtcreator it doesnt install manifest, unless you specially force it into deb |
| 23:03.32 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: it installs but it's all commented in there. and he has manifest but i think he had to add more things. |
| 23:03.48 | qwazix | jonni, I didnt have such problems till recently but I admit I hadnt updated qtc, so youre prolly right |
| 23:04.22 | jonni | qwazix: but yes, if there is aegis file and it installs, then you can start looking into dmesg about aegis errors. |
| 23:04.23 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: so? |
| 23:04.36 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop, video and audio not enough? |
| 23:05.07 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i added tracker and pulse and i added user group and user uid. |
| 23:05.20 | qwazix | works here too |
| 23:05.21 | ZogG_laptop | maybe too much but better have it working =P |
| 23:05.42 | qwazix | yeah, but why did it work in sb without those |
| 23:05.42 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: =P |
| 23:05.59 | jonni | qwazix: and if sb package works and qtcreator doesnt, then just extract both packages with ar and tar, and do a diff to dir structure to see the differences |
| 23:06.23 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: or, your qtcreator's version doesn't work? |
| 23:06.44 | qwazix | jonni, right, that is a nice way to do a postmortem, and understand why it fails |
| 23:07.43 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i'm confused. is it qtcreator or obs version fails? |
| 23:07.58 | qwazix | ZogG, please clarify the qn |
| 23:08.28 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: wich version doesn't work as user. one u build in qtcreator or sb? |
| 23:08.36 | ZogG_laptop | or OBS? |
| 23:08.48 | qwazix | sb build works, my qtc version fails, rzr obs version failed, your obs version worked |
| 23:09.09 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: my qtcreator version would work too btw |
| 23:09.41 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: you use most sb or qtcreator for build? |
| 23:10.01 | qwazix | ok then please push your changes to git and ill merge tomorrow |
| 23:10.17 | qwazix | i use qtc mostly |
| 23:10.42 | qwazix | but I used sb to make the debs on tmo because of this problem |
| 23:10.59 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: it's tricky. u need to comment one line in control file if you build in qtcreator as it fails to recognize libfcam-dev as dependency in qtcreator =) |
| 23:11.28 | qwazix | not if hou install libfcam-dev with madadmin |
| 23:11.31 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i'll push changes. it's mostly the way i explained in howto i linkd you |
| 23:11.32 | chem|st | ZogG_laptop: still need testing? |
| 23:11.49 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i did install but it fails for control file |
| 23:11.50 | qwazix | s/hou/you |
| 23:11.55 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: it's working |
| 23:12.10 | chem|st | fine, what was it? |
| 23:12.41 | qwazix | hmm, i dont remember to have this problem, or libfcam-dev wasnt at all in my control? |
| 23:12.43 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: lemme check few things, and i'll push it. |
| 23:12.58 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: it wasn't in qtc_packaging |
| 23:13.14 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: as i said i don't use debian dir |
| 23:13.27 | qwazix | aha and I had that dual folder thing |
| 23:13.32 | qwazix | now I get it |
| 23:13.34 | ZogG_laptop | i use script for convering between both. the one phako wrote |
| 23:14.01 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: so i just used deps from rzr's control merged there |
| 23:14.51 | ZogG_laptop | lemme check something |
| 23:14.53 | ZogG_laptop | brb |
| 23:15.31 | qwazix | ok, lets see what happens when I merge... I still wonder if it would work with less capas, not that there is a point anyway in asking for less |
| 23:16.02 | qwazix | prolly tracker will be needed anyway later on for capture review |
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| 23:17.22 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: metadata and GID i think not needed |
| 23:20.54 | qwazix | irrelevant, but using the N810 makes me a bit sad. Too much potential and hours of work wasted. Some things are so much more usable if you throw thumbability out the window |
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| 23:21.14 | ZogG_laptop | on n810? |
| 23:21.20 | ZogG_laptop | yeah i want to buy one |
| 23:21.47 | qwazix | we could have a hildon mode and run all those awesome applications in harmattan with a capacitive stylus |
| 23:22.07 | qwazix | gnumeric on 810 is like on pc |
| 23:23.03 | qwazix | I mean wasted potential on harmattan, and in a lesser extent on fremantle |
| 23:23.49 | qwazix | why reinvent the wheel so many times? |
| 23:24.48 | qwazix | I d kill to have hildon run on harmattan. I must resume that project once rawcam reaches a good state. |
| 23:26.45 | qwazix | and that menu button is awesome. True fullscreen. switcher and menu are hardware buttons |
| 23:29.04 | qwazix | \me just realized how similar is unity to diablo hildon |
| 23:29.18 | qwazix | just realized how similar is unity to diablo hildon |
| 23:30.44 | qwazix | anyway, gtg. Gnight. |
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| 23:32.49 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: pulled request |
| 23:33.28 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: damn i pulled it in harmattan repo and not your repo. i hope it's okay, as i forked from there |
| 23:33.52 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop, yep thats right |
| 23:34.33 | qwazix | harmattan repo is the "upstream" one |
| 23:34.38 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: the script would help you for OBS (hint - apps4meego) |
| 23:35.19 | qwazix | ok, will try to merge tomorrow, now its too late |
| 23:35.50 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: ok, i may ruin deb on obs now, as i want to test it without libfcam-dev in control |
| 23:36.15 | qwazix | ok |
| 23:36.45 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: though it would fail to build if there is error, so it's safe =) |
| 23:41.54 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop, Im off to bed, talk tomorrow |
| 23:42.00 | qwazix | thanks again |
