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| 00:25.39 | itsnotabigtruck | GeneralAntilles: huh? what ended up happening with your 950 |
| 00:26.19 | beford | he used OCF PR1.2 |
| 00:26.54 | beford | CAL string still said 1.2 so it allowed it to flash with that |
| 00:27.33 | itsnotabigtruck | oh geez, all that and it turns out it never actually got "upgraded"? |
| 00:27.42 | itsnotabigtruck | well, good to see it turned out ok |
| 00:27.52 | itsnotabigtruck | but that means it was much ado about nothing |
| 00:28.33 | beford | yea, I suppose it did not "upgrade" completly and the string wasn't changed |
| 00:28.39 | GeneralAntilles | itsnotabigtruck, I'm an idiot is what. |
| 00:28.49 | beford | that too |
| 00:28.52 | beford | :p |
| 00:28.53 | GeneralAntilles | +2 |
| 00:28.57 | GeneralAntilles | Ah well. |
| 00:28.59 | GeneralAntilles | I blame google. |
| 00:29.10 | GeneralAntilles | 39-5 was the only thing that was turning in searches. |
| 00:29.11 | GeneralAntilles | ~firmware |
| 00:29.11 | infobot | well, firmware is hardware that is beginning to melt Firmware for GrandStream phones is at http://www.hellofone.com/files/ |
| 00:29.52 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 00:30.10 | GeneralAntilles | ~n950-firmawer is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ |
| 00:30.10 | infobot | okay, GeneralAntilles |
| 00:30.19 | GeneralAntilles | I don't know version strings like I did in 2009. |
| 00:30.28 | GeneralAntilles | shit |
| 00:30.33 | GeneralAntilles | ~n950-firmware is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ |
| 00:30.33 | infobot | okay, GeneralAntilles |
| 00:30.41 | GeneralAntilles | ~forget n950-firmawer |
| 00:30.41 | infobot | i forgot n950-firmawer, GeneralAntilles |
| 00:30.46 | GeneralAntilles | ~botsnack |
| 00:30.46 | infobot | GeneralAntilles: thanks |
| 00:31.19 | GeneralAntilles | Oh well. Maybe I got MohammadAG investigating something exciting with CAL or something. |
| 00:31.21 | itsnotabigtruck | also rzr: $807 and rising? no thanks :p |
| 00:31.49 | itsnotabigtruck | man, people are willing to spend serious money on these |
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| 00:33.24 | GeneralAntilles | Scarcity is what drives value. |
| 00:33.33 | GeneralAntilles | Not much out there more scarce than an N950. |
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| 00:34.30 | itsnotabigtruck | it drives price, not value |
| 00:34.52 | itsnotabigtruck | but when price outstrips value, then one would expect demand to drop |
| 00:34.58 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, it's late, I'm through my first glass of wine and I haven't had dinner yet. ;) |
| 00:35.02 | GeneralAntilles | My noun usage suffers. |
| 00:35.05 | itsnotabigtruck | and an n950 certainly doesn't deliver that much value |
| 00:35.15 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 00:35.23 | itsnotabigtruck | well, no, i'm just nitpicking about words |
| 00:35.36 | GeneralAntilles | I'm know that tendency well. |
| 00:35.58 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm just astonished that anyone's willing to bid that high, rare or no |
| 00:36.47 | Namek | If I had the money I would pay even more |
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| 01:24.30 | *** topic/#harmattan is A place for harmattan device and development discussions | Customers help customers on #N9 | Please stay on topic and no NDA stuff here | Developers : http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/ | ~aegis-no-thanks | LATEST ~update | http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/nokia-reportedly-scraps-meltemi/ |
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| 01:26.47 | louis__ | Hi |
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| 03:07.18 | louis__ | Anyone alife? :P |
| 03:07.36 | itsnotabigtruck | louis__: kind of :p |
| 03:09.49 | louis__ | Well hi here ;) |
| 03:09.55 | louis__ | When you get a text msg from a new number. Why can't you easily click on it and add to a new or exiting contact? :P |
| 03:15.37 | itsnotabigtruck | louis__: tap the contact icon at the very top right corner |
| 03:15.41 | itsnotabigtruck | when you have the sms open |
| 03:16.01 | itsnotabigtruck | it'll bring up a box saying unknown contact |
| 03:16.03 | itsnotabigtruck | tab save |
| 03:16.07 | itsnotabigtruck | then edit |
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| 03:21.18 | itsnotabigtruck | so not very obvious but it can be done :) |
| 03:22.47 | louis__ | nice thx :P |
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| 05:52.43 | gambitrex | Hi, quick question regarding QContactPhoneNumber class: Why a phone number could possible have more than 1 SubType? |
| 05:53.59 | gambitrex | I mean, a phone number cant be a Mobile number and a Pager number at the same time, right? |
| 05:54.19 | denism | gambitrex: it can be Mobile and Fax at the same time |
| 05:55.20 | denism | MessagingCapable - can be even a Landline in some cases |
| 05:56.26 | gambitrex | denism: never saw that, but that's aceptable. Consider this: when you open your Contacts, and tap over a contact. a new window is opened, with all contact details. For a given number, you can have one subtype, like home, mobile, work, etc. How can I get that value? |
| 05:57.57 | gambitrex | QContactPhoneNumber::subTypes () very often has count > 0, so I want to get one of those "default" values |
| 05:58.07 | gambitrex | did I made myself clear? |
| 05:58.23 | denism | gambitrex: sorry do not remember, but at 'Contacts' app it might be not a real 'subtype' but something else |
| 05:58.44 | denism | as I remember, for sending SMS I have checked for SubTypeMessagingCapable - and it is not possible to set up such type |
| 05:59.19 | gambitrex | denism: and how the OS can check if given number is MessageCapable or not? |
| 06:00.13 | denism | I think they are adding it to every Mobile number :) It is usual in Harmattan - inconsistency particular app using some API and middleware provider of that API :) |
| 06:00.57 | denism | I do not think that UX designer of Contacts even know anything about Qt / QtMobility :) |
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| 06:02.00 | gambitrex | seems like I'll need to do a big switch/case for "main subtypes", and if any phone number has a "strange subtype" (like SubTypePager), I'll set it to some default subtype |
| 06:02.09 | gambitrex | denism: haha :) |
| 06:02.29 | gambitrex | denism: thanks |
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| 06:20.22 | gambitrex | denism: just discovered that I was looking at the wrong place. I should get the QContactDetail::contexts() instead of QContactPhoneNumber::subtypes(). :) |
| 06:21.12 | gambitrex | contexts().count is always 1 or 0. If it's 1, it's Home, Work, and so on. And if it's 0, the Contacts app show as Others |
| 06:21.23 | gambitrex | probably numbers from social network contacts |
| 06:21.26 | gambitrex | ;) |
| 06:21.50 | denism | gambitrex: cool, never tried that |
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| 06:22.42 | gambitrex | so the UX designer of Contacts probably knows something about qtmobility after all.. haha ") |
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| 08:06.03 | pa | is it possible to use google talk to call landlines on n9? |
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| 08:36.49 | Arkenoi | ~update |
| 08:36.49 | infobot | i guess update is http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 |
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| 08:39.36 | azeem | pa: is this generally possible at all? |
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| 08:48.33 | denism | azeem: I think google voice works so? |
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| 08:53.00 | pa | azeem, of course you can call regular phones with google voice |
| 08:53.05 | pa | its way cheaper than skype |
| 08:53.47 | Venemo_N9 | hey |
| 08:54.13 | Venemo_N9 | how do I make the N9 prefer wifi over 3g? |
| 08:56.10 | flux | I think it does that automatically, if you have wifi-hotspots you are allowed to automatically connect? |
| 08:56.21 | spenap | Venemo_N9: it should probably do it by itself. If both are set as automatic, it should pick the wifi one when it finds it |
| 08:56.27 | flux | so hold-and-press a wifi ap in the ap list and choose 'automatically connect' |
| 08:56.35 | flux | hmm, press-and-hold |
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| 09:05.57 | Venemo_N9 | spenap, well, it doesn't work |
| 09:06.31 | Venemo_N9 | spenap, I need to manually click on connecting to it. both are set to be used automatically. |
| 09:07.32 | spenap | weird: I never had that problem, I'm sorry |
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| 09:38.01 | Lava_Croft | same, cant confirm that problem |
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| 09:57.42 | chem|st | got my n9 now... unboxed and charging over usb... first notice: usb export of devices massstorage did not work... |
| 09:59.40 | Stskeeps | sure it does, you just have to choose it |
| 10:00.04 | Brownout | chem|st: it should present you with a dialog asking if you want to connect it ass mass storage, nokia whatever is called or nothing. |
| 10:00.31 | chem|st | Brownout: turned off? |
| 10:00.33 | Brownout | if it's a used unit it could have the settings for not asking and always use the same mode |
| 10:00.56 | chem|st | Brownout: community award, shiny new ;) |
| 10:01.35 | chem|st | and nokia is cheap... 16GB black... but sending for 65eur with dhl express... |
| 10:01.55 | Brownout | I can't find the menu entry right now, I'm a new owner too |
| 10:02.27 | Brownout | there you go settings->accessories->usb |
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| 10:59.00 | chem|st | Brownout: device is off, gets exported but a failure while initialising in windows stops it from working |
| 11:01.35 | Brownout | I don't even know if it's supposed to be seen as mass storage while turned off. Never seen a phone working like that. |
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| 11:05.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | N9 never is off while plugged to USB |
| 11:06.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | even WLAN ssh sessions live on happily while device "shut off" while hooked to charger |
| 11:06.23 | thp | chem|st: one reason why usb mass storage wouldn't work is that some process has a file open in MyDocs/, which prevents it from being unmounted |
| 11:06.33 | jonni | never say never, but usually its not off :) |
| 11:06.54 | thp | yes, N9 "off" on usb charger = "actdead mode" (at least it was called that in n8x0 times) |
| 11:07.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | this act_dead mode is even less anything of an off-state than on diablo/fremantle |
| 11:07.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | see "ssh session" ^^^ |
| 11:08.54 | thp | DocScrutinizer05: so network connections stay up in harmattan when "powering down" the device on a charger? |
| 11:09.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, obviously |
| 11:09.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc there's been an option to do that in fremantle as well, in mce.ini |
| 11:09.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | but seems the default changed |
| 11:10.45 | jonni | actdead is just init 5. |
| 11:10.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know |
| 11:10.59 | jonni | but you can turn your device off if you want |
| 11:11.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | and init 5 obviously neither tears down wlan nor stops sshd |
| 11:11.21 | thp | the bad thing about actdead is that when you tell users to reboot, you have to tell them also to unplug the charger cable, otherwise not everything will be reloaded |
| 11:11.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 11:11.41 | jonni | if you do shutdown -h now, it stops wlan and ssh, and shuts down for real |
| 11:12.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, since that is init 6 ;-9 |
| 11:12.13 | jonni | and you only wake up if you press power button. |
| 11:12.18 | jonni | vs init 6 is reboot |
| 11:12.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh? |
| 11:12.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh! init 0 |
| 11:13.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I guess no more init states on upstart/startupd |
| 11:19.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | mce.ini: PowerKeyLongAction=poweroff, the N900 mce.ini section [SoftPowerOff] - with ConnectivityPolicyPowerOn=offline - seems gone |
| 11:20.10 | jonni | but true, if you have enabled any of the rd flags with flasher, then device will always powerup when usb cable has been connected. But if you havent then you can still turn device totally off. |
| 11:27.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm, I can't recall setting rd-flags. Still I noticed my wlan ssh session living on when I powered down via powerbutton. Not sure though, have to check rd-flags, I might have tinkered with them |
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| 11:28.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | also there might be differences between N9 and N950? and between the different sw-revs? |
| 11:30.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, can't reproduce this effect on N950 now |
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| 12:02.40 | chem|st | does it need a sim in to boot? |
| 12:04.09 | mankeli | no |
| 12:04.59 | chem|st | then I might have a broken one, display stays black, music plays... nothing happens, is there a trick? |
| 12:15.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 12:15.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: there should be a NOLO bootscreen, even (aiui) an animated one |
| 12:16.10 | chem|st | nothing |
| 12:16.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | congrats, you got a lemon :-/ |
| 12:17.21 | chem|st | should it show something while charging? |
| 12:17.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | push powerbutton, LED fades in, vib kicks and same moment there shall be a white NOKIA on dark background |
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| 12:17.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah wait, you never ever powered it up yet? |
| 12:17.57 | chem|st | vib kicks? |
| 12:17.58 | salout | How can I open a downloaded file on my N9? |
| 12:18.01 | chem|st | vibe... |
| 12:18.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | might need 20h of charging |
| 12:18.22 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: had it charging for an hour or so.. |
| 12:18.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | too short |
| 12:18.34 | chem|st | ok |
| 12:19.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | it has charging issues on lowbat, as usual |
| 12:19.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | use N900 fastcharger, watch for LED lighting |
| 12:20.03 | chem|st | steady then blinking now fading... nothing on screen |
| 12:20.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | (aiui the LED should light up anyway, even when bat too low to boot CPU) |
| 12:20.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | steady means either emergency charge, or charging finished |
| 12:21.23 | chem|st | blinking? |
| 12:21.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | flashing should mean CPU booted up, so at least NOLO worked and configured the LP5521 |
| 12:21.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno what NOLO does on low battery |
| 12:21.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | you might want to use flasher |
| 12:21.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | to force charging |
| 12:22.12 | chem|st | ok now it is fading on fastcharger... that should do right? |
| 12:22.19 | chem|st | white led |
| 12:22.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | fading? |
| 12:22.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | flashing? |
| 12:22.44 | chem|st | no on and off in a fading way |
| 12:22.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, meant that |
| 12:22.56 | chem|st | like the n900 used to |
| 12:23.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | should mean "normal charging continues" |
| 12:23.24 | chem|st | ok I leave it like that, the logo should kick in sometime then? |
| 12:23.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | let it sit for 4h |
| 12:23.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think it should |
| 12:23.40 | chem|st | ok got a meeting now anyways |
| 12:23.46 | chem|st | ;) |
| 12:23.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | or eventually LED goes steady, then battery is "full" |
| 12:24.11 | chem|st | ok ty, later! |
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| 12:25.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed it seems NOLO is flashing LED, while HARM changes that to fading-in/out |
| 12:28.40 | jonni | put it on wall charger for few hours |
| 12:33.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: so yes, it's exactly like that: "steady (while emergency hw charging), then blinking (for some seconds, until NOLO loaded and started kernel), then fading" |
| 12:34.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think the more specific term for fading is "breathing light" |
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| 13:39.57 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: ty |
| 13:42.23 | chem|st | after an hour still no sign of display I will wait |
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| 13:53.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: as long as it has breathinglight it should be fine with charging, and actually after a while (maybe one hour of charging) you should be safe to "boot" it |
| 13:53.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | or s/boot/power up/ |
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| 13:54.28 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: well I leave it charging for now... there is different respons for a short press of pwrbtn now so it seems doing something but I don't want to power it up yet |
| 13:55.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | why not? :-) |
| 13:55.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | U love suspense? |
| 13:56.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | it actually is powered up I'd say, you'd just change it from runlevel 5 to runlevel 2 or sth like that |
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| 14:13.10 | vladest | sooooooooo. what about pr1.3 for n950? :) |
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| 14:19.18 | spenap | lol, this is now looking like a meme |
| 14:19.28 | spenap | the PR1.3 for N950 meme |
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| 14:25.21 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: different colors would be useful... now it is steady but emergency charging (better?) |
| 14:25.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep :-) |
| 14:25.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | charging finished |
| 14:25.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | power it up now! |
| 14:26.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't stand the suspense any longer ;-) |
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| 14:26.36 | chem|st | no display... |
| 14:27.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: I'd suggest to unplug |
| 14:27.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | then push powerbutton |
| 14:27.18 | chem|st | did... |
| 14:27.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | and see what LED does |
| 14:28.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | should fade in, then vibrator kicks and same time "NOKIA" displays |
| 14:28.11 | chem|st | led gets brighter till vibe... then still no display |
| 14:28.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | DAMN! |
| 14:29.19 | chem|st | have it lit then blinking then breathing again |
| 14:29.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | without charger? |
| 14:29.40 | chem|st | with charger |
| 14:30.12 | chem|st | takes some time to get it start and turn off properly without screen or light behaviour |
| 14:30.38 | chem|st | now I got it turning off fith vanishing light and after that replugged to wallcharger |
| 14:35.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: you *might* connect it to AV+TV _after_ powering up and waiting 60s |
| 14:36.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just tested it and it doesn't detect AV-plug when it been plugged during power-up |
| 14:37.03 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: can try that at home yeah |
| 14:38.11 | chem|st | btw why is there no av-connector with it? 700eur phone without goodies boxed, apart of a 2c silicon wrap |
| 14:39.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | 950? |
| 14:39.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | or N9? |
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| 14:52.08 | chem|st | n9 |
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| 15:00.53 | blueslee | thp: ping |
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| 15:03.51 | blueslee | thp: how do you do your development using pyside / qml? do you use qtcreator? do you test your gui directly on the corresponding device or do you use emulation? |
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| 15:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: yeah, for N9 it's a bit scarce accessories |
| 15:12.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably "nobody" ever used the AV cable, so Nokia thought it's wiser to reduce sales pricetag by 5 bucks |
| 15:13.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rathter, it simply didn't fit into that tiny box ;-D |
| 15:16.33 | mankeli | well i use that sometimes for playing movies |
| 15:16.48 | mankeli | and i have heard that inside nokia they played presentations with it |
| 15:17.21 | mankeli | and of course i have recorded/showed all my demos with it |
| 15:20.35 | chem|st | fuck it... |
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| 15:27.39 | chem|st | it is remaining to charge for a few minutes then it goes steady light and remains there... |
| 15:27.58 | chem|st | unplugging for a minute and I can start over... |
| 15:28.19 | chem|st | steady - blinking - breathing |
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| 15:28.56 | chem|st | and no more starting sound if I try to power on |
| 15:29.25 | topi` | any news about these Jolla guys? I wonder what kind of starting point they will use, will they have access to the Nokia version of harmattan |
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| 15:29.40 | topi` | or maybe use some open source fork as a starting point... |
| 15:29.49 | Velmont | I don't think so, has been talked about Mer and the community. |
| 15:30.00 | Velmont | And building it on QML. -- So think it's a redo. |
| 15:30.27 | Velmont | Nokia has copyright on the harmattan stuff, and keeping it closed, so guess no help there. |
| 15:30.30 | topi` | I know nothing of QML |
| 15:31.02 | topi` | I guess it would be possible to still be compatible with harmattan binaries... |
| 15:46.36 | denism | topi`: Harmattan is based on 'Meego Touch Framework', which is deprecated even for N9 apps |
| 15:46.52 | denism | so I am sure any new device will not support it |
| 15:48.22 | chem|st | ~flashing |
| 15:48.22 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing_N9 |
| 15:54.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: it's up and running |
| 15:54.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: steady means "charging complete" |
| 15:55.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: a short push of the powerbutton should lock/unlock the screen and thus switch on/off the steady LED |
| 15:56.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it is up&running, and charging completed |
| 15:56.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: do NOT flash a defect device! |
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| 15:57.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | flashing is adventurous enough with proper "feedback" from a working screen |
| 16:00.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: holding powerbutton for 20s should switch down the N9 unconditionally (if unplugged), so next press of powerbutton should fade in LED again, then kick vib... etc |
| 16:01.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: you got a lemon |
| 16:01.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: :.(( |
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| 16:02.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: if you power up the device unplugged and you feel vib, you shall also see "NOKIA". If not, screen is defect |
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| 16:05.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: ok, cjecking with N9 now, slight differences |
| 16:05.54 | chem|st | hehe |
| 16:06.01 | chem|st | what are the differences |
| 16:06.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1. on power-up the LED doesn't fade in |
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| 16:06.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | it pops up |
| 16:06.46 | chem|st | and there is a difference in light intensity between the initial steady light and the steady light after breathing... |
| 16:07.07 | chem|st | ok I had both fading in and a bright popup |
| 16:07.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2. it takes only 2s power button to power up |
| 16:08.32 | chem|st | mmh |
| 16:09.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | press power, 0.5s nothing, the LED kicks in steady, after 2..3s vib and "NOKIA" |
| 16:09.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | all of the above without charger |
| 16:09.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, and LED off with vib and "NOKIA" |
| 16:10.07 | pa | i am so shocked.. SGS2 lasts twice as much as n9.. |
| 16:10.14 | pa | (battery life) |
| 16:15.16 | koe | twice: 4 days with average usage? |
| 16:15.35 | koe | pa^ |
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| 16:20.18 | pa | koe |
| 16:20.23 | pa | way less, 3 max |
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| 16:20.49 | pa | and i think my average is less than average |
| 16:20.51 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: fuck it the screen is gone video out shows even in off mode the wallcharger icon |
| 16:21.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | thoufgt as much |
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| 16:22.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 16:22.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: go to settings, check brightness, as... you never know |
| 16:30.12 | chem|st | I am trying... seems like a refurbishment... device settings were macedonia language czech and so on |
| 16:30.28 | chem|st | but I cannot hit ok on the first screen |
| 16:35.32 | keitsi | what's reminderservice process? it's taking all my cpu time. occured after pr1.3 update. reboot didn't help, manually killing it did though. |
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| 16:45.42 | chem|st | what is region 006? |
| 16:46.46 | arcean | 006: Arabic |
| 16:46.50 | arcean | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Essential_concepts_for_Harmattan_developers_Harmattan_application_evolution.html |
| 16:46.52 | chem|st | middle east... |
| 16:47.02 | chem|st | so what now? send it back? |
| 16:47.20 | arcean | yes, contact DDP |
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| 17:04.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | bummer |
| 17:06.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders if chem|st got the N9 the IL customs fucked up before they sent it back to Nokia to unarm the bomb there |
| 17:06.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E. the one meant for MohammadAG |
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| 17:10.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: N9 might get serviced "locally" |
| 17:10.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | completely dead screen sounds like connector fell off |
| 17:11.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc Nokia got a service center in Duesseldorf |
| 17:11.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | or was it Bochum? |
| 17:12.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and this class of "defect" might even get serviced in certified Nokia care points |
| 17:12.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | like swapping battery etc |
| 17:13.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | but sure, ask DDP what to do |
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| 17:13.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | though... better contact Quim first |
| 17:14.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least if your device didn't come with proper receipe and service contact on that |
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| 17:25.06 | gambitrex | Hi. Is it possible to send to QML a QList<MyObject*> thru setContextProperty()? |
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| 17:41.01 | Namek | gambitrex: it is possible I always do that to export my models from c++ |
| 17:42.16 | gambitrex | Namek: I am facing problem when exporting. Compilation error: QVariant::QVariant(void *) is private. |
| 17:43.07 | gambitrex | Namek: do you have any practical example? |
| 17:43.46 | Namek | gambitrex: cast them using QVariant::fromValue() |
| 17:44.06 | Namek | I don't have one right now but I can guide you trough it if you want |
| 17:44.24 | Namek | so given something like this QList<QObject*> list |
| 17:44.53 | Namek | you can do something like this: viewerContext->setContextProperty("listModel", QVariant::fromValue(list)); |
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| 17:45.16 | Namek | and in qml you set the ListModel to listModel, or the names you choose |
| 17:46.22 | gambitrex | Namek: I tried to cast, but still no luck. 'QObject::QObject(const QObject&)' is private |
| 17:47.13 | Namek | not sure what are you trying to do there, export it using QVariant::fromValue(YOUR_QLIST) |
| 17:48.14 | gambitrex | Namek: yes, I tried that. From the reference (http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qvariant.html), seems like I need to "use the Q_DECLARE_METATYPE() macro to register your custom type." |
| 17:48.38 | gambitrex | Namek: but seems like the Q_DECLARE_METATYPE() works only to structs, not for classes. Is it right? |
| 17:49.10 | gambitrex | Namek: Can I post my code (it's small, no worries) to pastebin so you can look into it? |
| 17:49.21 | Namek | sure |
| 17:50.24 | Namek | I'm not sure about that, I have never done it that way, usually what I do is create a class that inherits from QObject and has all the properties I need, then I create a QList with that stuff in it, and I export it as I told you using QVariant::fromValue(), but let me see the code :) |
| 17:51.53 | gambitrex | Namek: The error I got when using QVariant::fromValue() is 'qt_metatype_id' is not a member of 'QMetaTypeId<QList<Contact*> >' |
| 17:52.08 | gambitrex | anyway, I am preparing the pastebin |
| 17:52.16 | Namek | ok :) |
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| 17:58.13 | gambitrex | Namek: http://pastebin.com/eXDM6NWZ |
| 17:59.00 | gambitrex | it should be quite simple. A small class that contains a QList<AnotherCustomClass*> list, and I want to export instance.list |
| 18:02.01 | Namek | I see, probably it doesn't like the QList inside the QList :s because everything seems to be the same that I always do, I guess that you are trying to access contacts right? there's an example in the api showcase, have you check that? |
| 18:02.17 | Namek | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/examples/api_showcase.html |
| 18:02.48 | Namek | you can download the code and check the send sms example, there they access contacts in a very clean way |
| 18:03.09 | Namek | cause I don't see anything wrong in what you are trying to do :s |
| 18:04.20 | gambitrex | Namek: I am able to retrieve all contacts in a assyncronous, no problem. All I need to do now is to pass the list to QML, and figure out how ListModel works |
| 18:04.23 | gambitrex | :-( |
| 18:04.54 | gambitrex | maybe if I take the list out from the class? hmm.. let me try |
| 18:04.59 | Namek | I haven't try something like this, let me see if I can export a QList inside a QList, wait just 5 min.. |
| 18:09.11 | gambitrex | I know you're quite busy testing, but I was wondering how could I access that "List inside List" in QML. Would be great if that could become an JS Array() somehow... |
| 18:10.16 | Namek | I'm pretty sure that if you remove the QList that you have inside Contacts class it's going to work, can you comment it out and try it? |
| 18:10.44 | gambitrex | sure. let me try, hold on |
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| 18:15.46 | Namek | gambitrex: I can't make it work with the QList, I'm still checking.. also here's an example of one of my classes, usually I do like this http://pastebin.com/Zb7jRpqG |
| 18:17.14 | gambitrex | I see you use setters by signals/slots. I am not using that. DO you think that could cause the problem? |
| 18:17.50 | Namek | I don't think so, but that's the way I learned to do it, don't remember what documentation I was reading.. |
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| 18:18.57 | gambitrex | Namek: I just removed the QList inside contact, and still doesnt work |
| 18:19.58 | Namek | Weird, so that's not the problem, could it be related to QTM_USE_NAMESPACE? |
| 18:20.19 | Namek | I'm sorry I'm not an expert, can you try to comment out that and #include <QContactPhoneNumber> |
| 18:22.13 | pa | how do i send an app to appsfor meego? |
| 18:23.00 | Namek | pa: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Apps/Submit |
| 18:23.28 | pa | thanks |
| 18:24.41 | gambitrex | Namek: Still, same problem |
| 18:24.52 | gambitrex | Namek: I am running out of ideas |
| 18:24.55 | gambitrex | :( |
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| 18:26.29 | Namek | :( wish I could help, I don't see something wrong, well then can you try to do with setters, signals/slots .. |
| 18:28.43 | gambitrex | Namek: thanks. I'll see what I can do. Thank you very much |
| 18:31.50 | gambitrex | Namek: YEEES! Worked! I had to Q_DECLARE_METATYPE(QList<Contact*>); outside any namespace |
| 18:32.04 | Namek | Great :D |
| 18:32.22 | Namek | are you participating in the contest? |
| 18:35.01 | pa | why would i submit to a4m instead of ovi store? |
| 18:36.09 | Namek | cause a4m are cooler :p ? |
| 18:36.20 | Namek | I think you can publish it in both |
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| 18:38.54 | pa | yes i think its possible, but why would i ever bother to publish in a4m? |
| 18:41.19 | Namek | I'm not the one to answer as I haven't done it, I think but don't take my word for it, that a4m can handle dependencies |
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| 18:46.25 | pa | ah |
| 18:46.34 | pa | do i have to pay in order to publish on ovi store? |
| 18:49.20 | Namek | in order to register there's a one time fee of 1 euro |
| 18:49.38 | Namek | after that you just get money :) |
| 18:50.38 | pa | ah perfect |
| 18:50.40 | pa | :) |
| 18:50.48 | pa | well i have only free stuff to publish for now |
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| 18:58.44 | gambitrex | Namek: how do I "bind" my list to a ListModel? |
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| 20:34.08 | Namek | gambitrex: Sorry I wasn't here, did you worked it out? what I do is that every time I change the list I export the new value, so you set the model to the exported list and if you changed it just export it again |
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| 21:18.21 | teleshoes | hello again harmattan! |
| 21:18.36 | chem|st | teleshoes: good morning! |
| 21:18.40 | teleshoes | anyone know if Colonel Sauce is coming anytime soon? |
| 21:18.57 | teleshoes | and good afternoon to you! |
| 21:19.11 | teleshoes | pr1.3, i mean |
| 21:20.04 | teleshoes | i assume one of the usual suspects put in the formal request instantly |
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| 21:24.09 | teleshoes | shit! |
| 21:24.25 | teleshoes | open kernel has been up for 8 days and i didnt know |
| 21:28.02 | chem|st | ;) |
| 21:28.53 | teleshoes | is someone working on a patch to neuter aegis? |
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| 21:49.26 | Namek | does any one knows how does harmattan handle windows? I'm wondering how can I rise a window.. |
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| 22:00.46 | tazz | are there any packages at all which provide a http server for the n9 ? |
| 22:01.36 | alterego | Python has one |
| 22:02.02 | tazz | alterego, heh, i was doing just that :) |
| 22:02.22 | rzr | lighthttpd could build |
| 22:02.24 | tazz | but i was hoping for something like apache2 or lighttpd |
| 22:02.44 | rzrmob | i tried once |
| 22:03.05 | rzr | yes i did |
| 22:03.43 | tazz | rzr awesome! |
| 22:04.17 | rzr | well its unfinished work |
| 22:05.27 | tazz | i am sure you'll get to it eventually when you get some free time. :) |
| 22:07.52 | tazz | damn, i sure miss the up button on the n9 :) |
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| 23:14.18 | pa | funny |
| 23:14.28 | pa | ovi store expects screenshots to be square.. |
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| 23:20.04 | Elleo | pa: yeah, then you also have to upload some harmattan specific screenshots at the right resolution |
| 23:20.18 | Elleo | in a separate section after creating the item |
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| 23:35.59 | pa | Elleo, right, just hitted into that :) |
| 23:36.05 | pa | thanks! |
| 23:36.05 | MohammadAG | N950 sim slot ruined :( |
| 23:36.21 | Elleo | pa: no worries |
| 23:36.37 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, how for so? |
| 23:36.53 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles: Empty microSIM adapter |
| 23:37.16 | MohammadAG | It ripped the pins when I got it out |
| 23:37.37 | MohammadAG | Well not completely, but it doesn't see my sim anymore |
| 23:38.29 | alterego | tut, tut |
| 23:39.34 | MohammadAG | And never try to disassemble an N950 |
| 23:39.52 | MohammadAG | The slider mech holds the motherboard to the body |
| 23:41.02 | GeneralAntilles | That sucks. |
| 23:41.05 | GeneralAntilles | Get a replacement? :( |
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| 23:43.49 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles: Contacted DDP |
| 23:44.12 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, gotta get somebody to smuggle it into the country, though? :P |
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| 23:46.14 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles: Usual shit, ship to Finland, arrives in 2 days, Nokia ship replacement, arrives to Israel in 2 days, stays in customs for a month or two, during which I'll be doing the usual bitching, after that I'll get my device and maybe Jolla will have a device |
| 23:46.32 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, you've got an N9, right? |
| 23:46.45 | MohammadAG | Yeah |
| 23:46.53 | GeneralAntilles | Well, at least there's that. ;) |
| 23:46.56 | MohammadAG | Devel won't stop, but I'll miss the N950 :p |
| 23:47.05 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, it's a sweet device. |
| 23:47.09 | MohammadAG | I'm surprised it's a 64GB model |
| 23:47.09 | alterego | What do you actually use N950 for then? :) |
| 23:47.17 | hiemanshu | MohammadAG: what happened to your N950? |
| 23:47.25 | MohammadAG | alterego: Showing off, what else |
| 23:47.31 | alterego | Heh |
| 23:47.34 | MohammadAG | hiemanshu: Ripped sim contacts |
| 23:47.44 | alterego | I've rewriting the nemo dialer app. |
| 23:47.44 | hiemanshu | lol |
| 23:47.53 | MohammadAG | Oh and the lumia's body is better |
| 23:47.54 | alterego | Starting to come together really nicely. |
| 23:47.59 | MohammadAG | It feels better |
| 23:48.12 | MohammadAG | alterego: Hardcode the iPhone ringtone in it |
| 23:48.30 | MohammadAG | I wonder if Jolla would hire me |
| 23:48.37 | alterego | Heh, soon I'll be able to add telepathy support, currently it only supports ofono, but I'd like to plug in telepathy too :) |
| 23:48.52 | alterego | MohammadAG: I believe they're looking for application devs, probably qml based. |
| 23:48.52 | MohammadAG | I'd prefer a decision taking position, so I could kill off QML :p |
| 23:48.59 | alterego | Maybe you should send in your CV :) |
| 23:49.14 | MohammadAG | No CS studies there yet :p |
| 23:49.19 | jonni | long live QML2 :) |
| 23:49.21 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, can't hurt to apply. |
| 23:49.34 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles: Apply? Where? |
| 23:49.38 | alterego | GeneralAntilles: have you applied? :P |
| 23:49.53 | alterego | I bet they've got a _lot_ of applications to go through. |
| 23:49.56 | MohammadAG | Also do I need to move? Customs will hold me for a month :p |
| 23:49.58 | GeneralAntilles | alterego, I have few actually marketable skills. |
| 23:50.16 | alterego | Heh, you could be official photographer? :) |
| 23:50.19 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, Jolla. |
| 23:50.23 | GeneralAntilles | alterego, lol |
| 23:50.48 | MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles: I meant where as in where/how would one apply :p |
| 23:50.53 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, oh, duh. |
| 23:51.01 | GeneralAntilles | careers@jolla.com or something like that. |
| 23:51.17 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, ping! |
| 23:51.28 | MohammadAG | Oh, no official form |
| 23:51.40 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer05: ping |
| 23:51.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | sigh |
| 23:51.50 | GeneralAntilles | It's a heavy world. |
| 23:52.00 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer51, where'd you apply with Jolla? |
| 23:52.33 | alterego | MohammadAG: Stskeeps works for them and he hasn't had to leave his country :P |
| 23:52.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | applications@jolla.com |
| 23:52.43 | GeneralAntilles | I was SO CLOSE. |
| 23:52.44 | GeneralAntilles | Shit. |
| 23:52.52 | alterego | Well, doesn't work _for_ them, but does work _for_ them. |
| 23:53.28 | alterego | Actually, I sent mine to careers@jolla.com |
| 23:54.20 | MohammadAG | Does a C++ backend writer who hates QML qualify? :P |
| 23:54.34 | alterego | You shouldn't be so fussy. |
| 23:54.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | or that |
| 23:54.42 | MohammadAG | I'm really not sure how people see potential in QML |
| 23:54.51 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, if I had $500, I'd hire you. |
| 23:54.54 | alterego | MohammadAG: because it's nice, just because you're not good at it :P |
| 23:54.55 | MohammadAG | alterego: Usually I'm not :p |
| 23:55.15 | MohammadAG | alterego: I can do an app in it :p |
| 23:55.21 | alterego | pfft |
| 23:55.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | Das Kanalthema lautet: „Unofficial JollaMobile IRC channel, https://twitter.com/JollaMobile | careers@jollamobile.com | For Core-level discussions, join #mer“. |
| 23:55.45 | alterego | Do you want to write the dbus proxy plugin for my voice call manager service? |
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| 23:55.49 | GeneralAntilles | Christ. It was in the topic? |
| 23:56.04 | MohammadAG | alterego: What does it need to do? |
| 23:56.25 | MohammadAG | There's a channel? |
| 23:56.30 | alterego | MohammadAG: I'm not really serious, I'm autogenerating it with qdbusxml2blah |
| 23:56.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | [12.07.2012 10:30:06] <Stskeeps> TheBootroo: send a CV and UI portfolio to careers@jollamobile.com |
| 23:56.34 | GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, read MWKN more. |
| 23:56.52 | MohammadAG | UI portfoilo? |
| 23:57.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | NFC |
| 23:57.19 | alterego | MohammadAG: because they want QML app developers :P |
| 23:57.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I chatted with aard |
| 23:57.49 | GeneralAntilles | Liar |
| 23:57.52 | alterego | lol |
| 23:57.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I think my CV is a pile of bullshit |
| 23:58.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | google for joerg@openmoko if you wanna know about me and what I do |
| 23:58.21 | alterego | DocScrutinizer05: mine is almost certainly a pile of bullshit, I'm just crap at selling myself :P |
| 23:58.47 | GeneralAntilles | They should just ask me if they need to more info. |
| 23:58.59 | GeneralAntilles | "Who? Shit no. Fuck those guys." |
| 23:59.23 | alterego | DocScrutinizer05: wget 'http://www.google.com/?s=joerg@openmoko' -O DocScrutinizer05-CV.html |
| 23:59.26 | AranelN9 | If I rotate my neck one more time to see my music playlist while driving I think It'll fall apart from my body. Any hacks/ideas to enable landscape on stock music player? |