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| 00:25.11 | SpeedEvil | Oookaay. |
| 00:25.15 | SpeedEvil | Comedy error. |
| 00:25.29 | SpeedEvil | I got a text, and the vibrator hasn't properly shut off |
| 00:25.34 | SpeedEvil | it's pulsing |
| 00:26.41 | SpeedEvil | Ah - seems to be acting as if the volume button was stuck - odd |
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| 00:44.50 | ZogG_laptop | SpeedEvil: call and hang up |
| 00:44.52 | ZogG_laptop | ? |
| 00:44.56 | ZogG_laptop | i think i had it once |
| 00:45.26 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: =\ |
| 00:45.31 | SpeedEvil | It's stopped now. |
| 00:45.38 | ZogG_laptop | =) |
| 00:49.41 | itsnotabigtruck | quite strange |
| 00:50.32 | ZogG_laptop | i think i had it once when i got call but it didn't brought the UI app and all i got was vibration but not sure |
| 00:51.23 | ZogG_laptop | was riding bike and just saw it vibrating in pocket after 10 min ride with music. (music stopped). i called and hanged up and it fixed it |
| 00:53.13 | SpeedEvil | It's possible I'd pushed it against something that kept the button down |
| 00:54.38 | ZogG_laptop | maybe |
| 00:54.47 | ZogG_laptop | but was t in vib only? |
| 00:55.00 | ZogG_laptop | anyway it's not that importaant |
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| 04:32.14 | Richlv | SpeedEvil, i get that every now and then |
| 04:32.18 | Richlv | had it 3 times or so |
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| 12:07.59 | rzr | ZogG, it will never stop |
| 12:08.32 | rzr | ZogG, btw we can make a list of n950club , and stop the innactive one ? |
| 12:08.56 | macmaN | what list? |
| 12:09.30 | rzr | n950 owners |
| 12:09.44 | macmaN | is there anything out there already? |
| 12:09.53 | macmaN | what is the "inactive" one |
| 12:10.39 | rzr | someone who did not contribute to the community |
| 12:11.53 | macmaN | it sounds like some kind of a n950club list exists, that has active and inactive people on it |
| 12:12.25 | macmaN | trying to find out if i understand that correctly? |
| 12:12.39 | SpeedEvil | n950 is a shit club. It's not heavy enough, and the corners aren't pointy enough. |
| 12:12.57 | macmaN | true. if you hit a baseball with it, it will break |
| 12:14.35 | ZogG_laptop | lol |
| 12:15.15 | ZogG_laptop | macmaN: SpeedEvil i think he talked about the last CA and people who did not got devices while 4/4 councils got devices |
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| 12:15.35 | SpeedEvil | Well - yes. |
| 12:15.57 | Lava_Croft | is the issue with N9 camera not responding an issue that gets worse over time? |
| 12:16.06 | Lava_Croft | now i havent been able to start the camera app for several days |
| 12:16.35 | ZogG_laptop | so he wants to keep people who were working and still working and new ones who would work after they get, but not those who just device so badly |
| 12:16.44 | DocScrutinizer | dafaq you don't put me on any list |
| 12:16.58 | ZogG_laptop | Lava_Croft: restart wouldn't help? |
| 12:17.06 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer: you are first in all lists |
| 12:17.12 | Lava_Croft | restart is not a solution to that problem at all |
| 12:17.17 | Lava_Croft | its a placebo |
| 12:17.26 | Lava_Croft | like GPS settings orso |
| 12:17.37 | ZogG_laptop | Lava_Croft: i have it few times lately and my mail is not working at all |
| 12:17.50 | Lava_Croft | my mail works fine, its the camera that is broken, apparently in software |
| 12:17.57 | Lava_Croft | just wondering if it deteriorates over time |
| 12:18.06 | ZogG_laptop | as i told i had it few times and restart solve the trick |
| 12:18.12 | DocScrutinizer | it seems like my /ignore hides some quite insane stuff in this chan from me |
| 12:18.17 | Lava_Croft | restart doesnt fix the camera issue |
| 12:18.36 | ZogG_laptop | Lava_Croft: do you have VeksuMaps? |
| 12:18.41 | Lava_Croft | no |
| 12:18.52 | Lava_Croft | i have a completele fresh flashed n9 right now |
| 12:19.00 | ZogG_laptop | it's really wierd |
| 12:19.04 | ZogG_laptop | Lava_Croft: what pr? |
| 12:19.08 | Lava_Croft | 1.2 |
| 12:19.17 | Lava_Croft | its also a know issue, with the camera |
| 12:19.32 | ZogG_laptop | Lava_Croft: i think there was some problem with flash not updating camera driver or something once but can't recall pr and if it was n900 |
| 12:19.35 | ZogG_laptop | lemme check |
| 12:19.56 | Lava_Croft | i just wonder if there's any more info about it except that it doesnt work and there's a multitude of the usual 'get 2 eyeballs from a rooster, get a virgin's blood and pray to Linus' solution |
| 12:20.24 | DocScrutinizer | I announce I'll ruthlessly ban any user who propagates or supports actions aiming at segregating community |
| 12:21.28 | Lava_Croft | Maybe begin with yourself and your own ideas of wanting to overthrow the council |
| 12:21.34 | Lava_Croft | oop |
| 12:21.58 | DocScrutinizer | what a kind of idiot are you, sir? |
| 12:22.22 | Lava_Croft | keep insulting, works great |
| 12:22.36 | DocScrutinizer | with your ideas of badmouthing cahnops to make yourself feel less useless and retarded |
| 12:22.46 | Lava_Croft | badmouthing? |
| 12:22.56 | Lava_Croft | im just stating what you said to me yourself |
| 12:23.05 | Lava_Croft | if that badmouthing, then im sorry for repeating your own words |
| 12:23.08 | ZogG_laptop | Lava_Croft: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1214422&postcount=4 |
| 12:23.18 | DocScrutinizer | quote or instant ban |
| 12:23.20 | Lava_Croft | ZogG_laptop: hmm, let me see |
| 12:23.37 | Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer: look at your logs, we were in a privmshg |
| 12:23.38 | Lava_Croft | msg* |
| 12:23.45 | Lava_Croft | shouldnt be hard to find at all |
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| 12:24.35 | godofwar424 | Any devs online take a look at this : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85176 |
| 12:24.51 | godofwar424 | Need some developer help on getting this to work |
| 12:28.06 | ZogG_laptop | godofwar424: i think developer told you all already |
| 12:28.46 | ZogG_laptop | check if module is built and than check what module |
| 12:29.09 | godofwar424 | any advice on how to check if the module is built to support the HID profile? |
| 12:30.34 | ZogG_laptop | godofwar424: do you know the name? |
| 12:30.42 | ZogG_laptop | ls -l /lib/modules/current/ |
| 12:31.09 | ZogG_laptop | but those are modules and not built in |
| 12:31.15 | ZogG_laptop | AFAIK |
| 12:31.19 | jonni | btinput installs the hidd module to system, so basicly your problem just with your bt keyboard going into sleep. |
| 12:31.36 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: sup =) |
| 12:32.13 | godofwar424 | Yeah but btinput doesnt dynamically deal with the pairing, it doesnt store the pair so when the keyboards reconnects, the N9 doesn't know what to do |
| 12:32.14 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/MartinK:/mieru/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/mieru_2.3.1_armel.deb |
| 12:32.53 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: on COBS |
| 12:32.58 | ZogG_laptop | and the command? |
| 12:33.06 | jonni | godofwar424: you can always pair the keyboard from the N9 ui first and set it trusted, that way N9 always remembers it and you dont need to repair? ;-) |
| 12:33.18 | godofwar424 | Have tried that :( |
| 12:33.28 | godofwar424 | The N9 asks if I want to allow the keyboard to connect |
| 12:33.29 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: you don't mind i'll as well give the link to other my russia friend to check on translation? |
| 12:33.34 | M4rtinK | to run with a Russian locale python /opt/mieru/mieru.py -u QML -p harmattan --locale ru |
| 12:33.42 | mankeli | i have noticed something similar, that the bluetooth keyboard connection drops randomly |
| 12:33.44 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: \o/ |
| 12:33.52 | M4rtinK | no problem :) |
| 12:33.53 | godofwar424 | then goes nothing happens, the bluetooth icon goes blue for a second then back to white, and then process repeats :( |
| 12:33.54 | jonni | atleast that way my bluetooth kb works and it doesnt ask repairing. |
| 12:34.15 | jonni | what kind of bt keyboard do you have? |
| 12:34.32 | M4rtinK | btw, this is my bleeding edge repository, feel free to add it to your sources list to test my pre-release packages :) |
| 12:34.33 | rzr | ZogG, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1229390#post1229390 |
| 12:34.36 | godofwar424 | NUU Minkey |
| 12:34.53 | ZogG_laptop | godofwar424: do you have options for device in bluetooth setting and did you try the same keyboard with n900? |
| 12:35.12 | godofwar424 | I dont have an N900 anymore, mine broke hence why I have an N9 |
| 12:35.33 | rzr | itsnotabigtruck, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1229390#post1229390 |
| 12:35.37 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: multiple choice in votes =) |
| 12:35.38 | godofwar424 | No options for the device at all |
| 12:35.56 | rzr | ZogG, in case of .. |
| 12:35.59 | ZogG_laptop | godofwar424: any swetting on keyboard? |
| 12:36.04 | godofwar424 | Nope |
| 12:36.29 | godofwar424 | I can activate pairing mode, but its not practical to have to do this every time I leave my device alone for a lil bit |
| 12:37.29 | jonni | maybe you should get some working bt keyboard which pairs automaticly :) |
| 12:37.49 | rzr | ZogG, i must edit again my post to add if user had a n9 or not |
| 12:37.57 | jonni | minkey seems to be optimized for iphone |
| 12:38.01 | godofwar424 | Its a bluetooth keyboard case, there must be a way to fix this |
| 12:38.08 | godofwar424 | but it just uses basic HID |
| 12:38.20 | rzr | ZogG, too late |
| 12:38.25 | godofwar424 | all it needs to do is be recognised by the N9 and then the N9 needs to reconnect |
| 12:38.32 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: too late what? |
| 12:39.03 | rzr | to add other answers |
| 12:39.07 | rzr | nevermind |
| 12:39.15 | rzr | it's ok the way it is |
| 12:39.31 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i said i would like to get one. as mine on the way, and i'm not that contributor, as my knowledge is not that rich, but i want to experiment with multiboot and maybe gentoo on n950 =) |
| 12:40.32 | rzr | u'll get one |
| 12:40.47 | rzr | then you not deserve one |
| 12:40.50 | rzr | extra one |
| 12:40.59 | macmaN | joined |
| 12:41.50 | godofwar424 | jonni: btinput is isntalled but I cannot type hidd into terminal, it just says that its not found :s So it must not install the hidd |
| 12:42.08 | mankeli | it does |
| 12:42.13 | mankeli | it's in /opt/btinput/bin/ |
| 12:42.32 | godofwar424 | thanks! |
| 12:42.54 | godofwar424 | Lemme look into maybe getting some kind of console command that could be activated using profilematic |
| 12:43.14 | godofwar424 | I think the main issue, is that the N9 DOESNT reconnect even if its paired, you have to repair the keyboards :( |
| 12:45.57 | godofwar424 | When I connect using hidd through terminal, and then type hidd --show |
| 12:46.30 | godofwar424 | the result is BT ADDRESS Bluetooth HID Boot Protocol Device [0000:0000] connected [boot-protocol] |
| 12:46.55 | jonni | godofwar424: its in /opt/btinput/bin/hidd ie its not in the path. |
| 12:47.19 | jonni | ah I didnt read mankelis response... too slow eyes |
| 12:47.30 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i have one on the way to me and n9 i boought |
| 12:47.42 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: thinking of getting funtoo running on it |
| 12:47.48 | rzr | ZogG, 2 n9 ? |
| 12:48.15 | mankeli | so what happens when your kbd wakes up? |
| 12:48.18 | rzr | ZogG, my secret goal is to find out those inactive n950 :) |
| 12:48.21 | mankeli | n9 pops up a pairing dialog or what |
| 12:49.07 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: 1 n9 i bought and i won n950 in apps to ovi thing |
| 12:49.27 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: you wouldn't |
| 12:49.36 | rzr | ok then you should change to contributor |
| 12:49.49 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: people who got them not deserve would lie to you or wouldn't vote |
| 12:50.10 | rzr | if they dont vote we will force them to :) |
| 12:50.28 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i can't call myself contributor, as most my cotributions are low level ones =\ |
| 12:50.35 | rzr | of steal them , since they dont say they got one , they wont complain then :) |
| 12:50.43 | ZogG_laptop | like translations and testing and stuff like that =\ |
| 12:50.51 | rzr | ZogG, no problem even a bug report is a contrib |
| 12:51.03 | rzr | ZogG, user or contributor is what would describe you most |
| 12:51.14 | rzr | ZogG, u release a app thats a contrib |
| 12:51.30 | rzr | if u dedicate time for the project |
| 12:51.33 | godofwar424 | So my keyboard as well as another random one I bought, use boot-protocol, is this why they do not auto pair? :s |
| 12:51.36 | rzr | this mean you're a contributor |
| 12:51.39 | ZogG_laptop | i feel like those things should be normal in any opensource or community society. as it's not contributing but is more helping others to help yourself |
| 12:55.21 | rzr | anyway your not a deserver |
| 12:55.23 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: we wouldn't argue about it man, it's just something with my personal life now, it when you feel you want to master or be good at something and it goes really slow |
| 12:57.29 | rzr | wait |
| 12:57.39 | rzr | you deserved that n950 on the way |
| 12:57.46 | rzr | not an other one |
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| 12:58.02 | rzr | that's why now u belong to the 1st or 2d case |
| 12:58.07 | ZogG_laptop | i don't want another one |
| 12:58.28 | rzr | so that's way i told you u're not in the right entry |
| 12:58.59 | rzr | * deserver : of course you should not have one , if you have a n9 and no use for a n950 then it would nice to report it too .. |
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| 13:04.02 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i can't change |
| 13:04.11 | ZogG_laptop | freemangordon: =) |
| 13:04.30 | freemangordon | hi :) |
| 13:04.43 | ZogG_laptop | sup? got a device already? |
| 13:04.47 | freemangordon | no |
| 13:07.11 | ZogG_laptop | freemangordon: luke was on list who self submitted and i got confused of him winning. i would need hist and slonopotamus help to run funtoo on n950 =\ |
| 13:07.43 | japh | where do you live? |
| 13:07.53 | ZogG_laptop | japh: who? |
| 13:07.54 | DocScrutinizer | rzr: I pretty much don't like any discussion in here along the line of "I know better who deserves whatever, than those who did the decision" |
| 13:08.06 | japh | no one seemed to care 3 weeks ago when I offered a n950 just so people could dev stuff |
| 13:09.01 | freemangordon | japh: but how all the drama would've happened then? |
| 13:09.04 | ZogG_laptop | japh: you are welcome to give to e-yes who left now or switch with n9 donated to itsnotabigtruck |
| 13:09.55 | japh | it's too late today unless you happen to live in sweden |
| 13:10.12 | japh | I've been starting to hate the device a little less |
| 13:10.33 | ZogG_laptop | japh: and we pay you for sending it? |
| 13:11.58 | japh | mm, is there that many differences n9 <=> n950 you can't use the n9 as a testbed? If I were going to hand this away I wouldn't accept a n9 |
| 13:12.07 | japh | I'd rather have n900s |
| 13:13.53 | rzr | japh, i wish i got one too |
| 13:14.40 | japh | well maybe you could convince me if it's something I'd have a use for... |
| 13:14.47 | rzr | DocScrutinizer, the idea is to make sure that the inactive n950 will be used :) |
| 13:14.55 | japh | are you two devving on the same thing or should you get one half each? |
| 13:15.04 | DocScrutinizer | this is a BS idea in my book |
| 13:16.04 | DocScrutinizer | since there's no proper definition of "inactive", if not any other points that show the idea is insane |
| 13:17.38 | japh | well fsck I don't know what to do. th hardware is really nice, but I really do hate this UI which I can't navigate because my finger being incompatible to this hitech touchscreen thing |
| 13:18.18 | japh | I've thought about trying to install maemo5 but since the device is so rare I didn't want to brick it the first thing I do |
| 13:18.41 | Elleo | japh: have you considered using a capacitive stylus? |
| 13:19.09 | japh | elleo, I have the n900 stylus, is that the wrong one? |
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| 13:19.43 | Elleo | japh: yeah, the n900 screen is resistive so anything pressing on it will work, the n9/n950 is capacitive so you need a stylus that conducts a little |
| 13:20.00 | DocScrutinizer | rzr: ooh, and btw what makes you think there's any justification for anybody (except the original donor of those N950) to want and "make sure any inactive N950 will be used"? |
| 13:20.11 | japh | that's what I like about the n900 screen, I don't have to take my oily dirty work gloves off :) |
| 13:20.51 | rzr | well in a perfect world , some one who dont use would be happy to help some one who need it .... |
| 13:21.04 | rzr | but maybe that world is not ours ... |
| 13:21.34 | DocScrutinizer | rzr: au contraire aiui the CA been to award contributors for past contributions and definitely not been backed by any requirements regarding future use of the award/device |
| 13:21.53 | japh | as docscrutinizer maybe remembers I came in here pretty pissed and I wanted to hand it over to someone who would make $awesome_software available for it/n9x |
| 13:22.08 | japh | but people wasn't interested, too bad |
| 13:22.57 | Elleo | japh: asking on talk.maemo.org might get you more of a response (although probably also lots of people just desperate to have one for the sake of having one) |
| 13:23.31 | japh | yes since I'm a dev myself I wanted to give it to someone that'd earn it |
| 13:23.34 | DocScrutinizer | Elleo: (c-ts) even worse: you need a certain minimum touch area for c-ts digitizers to work, since capacitive is related to area and distance |
| 13:23.48 | japh | anyway we'll see. I'm going to look for n900s i the meantimme |
| 13:24.27 | japh | so is that why I have to smash the screen 5-6 times on every button before anything happens |
| 13:25.37 | Elleo | a very light touch should be all that's really needed on a capacitive screen; if you're pressing it hard it might be that it's detecting it as a motion instead as more of your skin comes into contact over the time of the press and alters the perceived point of contact |
| 13:26.06 | DocScrutinizer | Elleo: well, almost correct |
| 13:26.11 | japh | screens wasnt made for typing with jelly fingers |
| 13:27.43 | DocScrutinizer | correct as pressure actually doesn't matter with c-ts. it's just conductivity of the touching object, area of touchpoint, and "distance" between "touch"point screen and object |
| 13:28.12 | DocScrutinizer | the issue about moving/jitter of touch coords existing anyway |
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| 13:45.49 | godofwar424 | Anybody got any idea how to get majority of these bleutooth keyboards auto reconnecting? |
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| 14:13.52 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: my friend found one mistypo and also thinks few things sound wierd |
| 14:14.39 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: i want to make him more involved so i'll explain to him how to fix and push requests |
| 14:16.30 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: ok :) |
| 14:19.23 | shanttu | M4rtinK, thanks for your postcard ~ a month back=) I was veru amused. Keep up the good work. |
| 14:20.05 | ZogG_laptop | postcard? |
| 14:20.50 | shanttu | I made a donation to Modrana and Martin thanked old-school-way |
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| 14:23.21 | M4rtinK | shanttu: I'm glad you liked it. :) |
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| 14:24.19 | ZogG_laptop | than i need to donate myself |
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| 14:24.44 | ZogG_laptop | though now i'm jobless for 2 months so from first new job saulery |
| 14:33.07 | rzr | some pple seems to take that survey seriously , we got one waster :) |
| 14:33.15 | rzr | that's honnest |
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| 14:38.16 | M4rtinK | you can donate to either modRana or Mieru :) |
| 14:38.58 | M4rtinK | BTW, about 5000 downloads from Ovi for Mieru (mainly from China) and not a single donation (since Ovi publication) :) |
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| 14:39.15 | rZr | then they should ask in that thread ... |
| 14:39.28 | rZr | M4rtinK, how to donate ? |
| 14:39.37 | M4rtinK | the donation button on the About page is a bit hidden though (menu->Info->About) :) |
| 14:40.52 | M4rtinK | rZr: modRana: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58861 |
| 14:40.56 | rZr | try to make it appear on the 1st run to maje sure |
| 14:40.59 | rZr | make .. |
| 14:41.32 | M4rtinK | Mieru: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73907 |
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| 14:41.51 | M4rtinK | Paypal & Flattr :) |
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| 14:42.11 | M4rtinK | rZr: I'll do something like that - an update screen |
| 14:42.21 | M4rtinK | as Ovi doesn't show a changelog |
| 14:42.33 | M4rtinK | it will show whats now + a donation button |
| 14:42.36 | M4rtinK | on major updates |
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| 14:43.45 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: i never used flattr btw, how is it? do they accept credit card and works like paypal, they keep history and info and i need aprove or what? |
| 14:44.07 | M4rtinK | not really sure |
| 14:44.11 | Elleo | M4rtinK: there is an area in the ovi store package date for describing recent changes that gets displayed |
| 14:44.21 | M4rtinK | I've been using it as an author so far |
| 14:44.45 | Elleo | unfortunately it just doesn't do anything smart like automatically pulling the info from the debian changelog |
| 14:44.46 | M4rtinK | not sure how to load money on it, but it should be similar to Paypal I guess |
| 14:44.56 | Elleo | ZogG_laptop: you can use paypal to load money on to it |
| 14:45.08 | Elleo | you basically put a little money in your account and say how much of it to use up each month |
| 14:45.33 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: it's monthly and not once donation? |
| 14:45.39 | Elleo | there's also things like aflattr which'll add money to your account based on amazon purchases (basically setting you up as your own affiliate) |
| 14:46.11 | ZogG_laptop | i dont have amazon |
| 14:46.16 | Elleo | ZogG_laptop: hang on, there's a video that explains it better |
| 14:46.38 | Elleo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zrMlEEWBgY |
| 14:46.44 | ZogG_laptop | they don;t send most things to israel only books as far as i know or n900's =) and they taking a fee |
| 14:46.51 | Elleo | ah |
| 14:47.11 | ZogG_laptop | i used ebay few times |
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| 14:47.18 | ZogG_laptop | as we have troubles with post here |
| 14:47.26 | ZogG_laptop | i didn't get few things |
| 14:47.56 | ZogG_laptop | and got resends but i don't feel buying it like that as i pay for one and if i don't get person need to send second and it's unfair for them |
| 14:48.16 | Elleo | yeah |
| 14:48.22 | ZogG_laptop | i even didn't aksed no resend and n money back for last one |
| 14:49.04 | ZogG_laptop | i decided only to buy with tracking but somethings would be cheaper than shipment money |
| 14:49.11 | Elleo | perhaps another approach would be to make it clear to the seller that post is unreliable there and that you're willing to pay a little extra for postal insurance |
| 14:49.23 | Elleo | then if it doesn't get delivered they can send another and reclaim the cost from the insurance |
| 14:49.38 | Elleo | although i guess if post is known to be really unreliable there insurance might end up costing a lot |
| 14:52.00 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: did you got pull request? |
| 14:52.39 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: I'll check it out once I'm done with dinner :) |
| 14:53.24 | ZogG_laptop | bon appetite |
| 14:53.31 | ZogG_laptop | and do not eat in front of comp =) |
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| 16:00.02 | shanttu | what is the best way keep a (music)folder synced automatically between pc (ubuntu) and n9? |
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| 16:00.53 | mankeli | rsync if you like terminal :-) |
| 16:04.55 | shanttu | i like terminal, but not on n9 even if fingerterm is not that bad |
| 16:09.22 | ZogG_laptop | shanttu: all you need to make script and make the rule for automounting of n9 |
| 16:13.38 | M4rtinK | or you can run the script from the N9 |
| 16:13.44 | shanttu | ZogG, maybe take that as a project. Using cron? |
| 16:14.10 | M4rtinK | if you exchange SSH keys, you can even run it over network automatically |
| 16:14.42 | M4rtinK | I basically use exactly this for debugging :) |
| 16:15.33 | ZogG_laptop | shanttu: the better solution can be git-ftp |
| 16:15.48 | ZogG_laptop | but you need to set git server i think on n9 =) |
| 16:15.54 | ZogG_laptop | and that wuld be nicer project |
| 16:16.10 | shanttu | Something for rainy days =) |
| 16:16.26 | ZogG_laptop | we don't have rain except winter |
| 16:20.13 | mankeli | shanttu: well, i was thinking about running rsync on a pc, and transfer data via ssh :) |
| 16:20.37 | mankeli | or via usb mass storage mode if the speed is too slow |
| 16:22.17 | shanttu | mankeli, will study for that method. Thanks |
| 16:22.55 | mankeli | the git method suggested by zorg sounds interesting |
| 16:23.56 | ZogG_laptop | zogg |
| 16:24.00 | ZogG_laptop | not zorg and not a zerg |
| 16:24.11 | mankeli | oops, sorry :) |
| 16:24.58 | mankeli | but the git method of course works over ssh too |
| 16:25.16 | mankeli | i'd guess the main point is using git to detect changed files |
| 16:26.16 | mankeli | or did i misunderstood? |
| 16:26.44 | ZogG_laptop | mankeli: https://github.com/resmo/git-ftp |
| 16:26.59 | mankeli | oh, aha |
| 16:27.27 | ZogG_laptop | i think it just need to be changed to transfer thru other protocol than ftp |
| 16:27.35 | ZogG_laptop | maybe add some gui |
| 16:28.39 | mankeli | wouldn't that create a repo, which basicly duplicates your whole music collection? |
| 16:31.13 | ZogG_laptop | you can use ignore list to change folders and you can set only certain directories |
| 16:31.23 | ZogG_laptop | sounds like a great idea btw |
| 16:32.47 | mankeli | well repo would be perfect if you have several mobile players |
| 16:33.02 | mankeli | so you could just have a local branch with only songs you want |
| 16:33.17 | mankeli | but just for normal synching..a bit overkill :P |
| 16:34.10 | ZogG_laptop | you are looking into different problems |
| 16:34.25 | mankeli | i wonder if there's some special mode in git where you can only have file hashes in the repo |
| 16:35.23 | ZogG_laptop | that what gitftp does |
| 16:35.55 | ZogG_laptop | you are looking on user experience and i'm talking about tech solution |
| 16:36.44 | ZogG_laptop | you can combine two |
| 16:36.51 | ZogG_laptop | when user doesn't need to know how it works |
| 16:36.57 | ZogG_laptop | he just plug in and has it |
| 16:39.05 | mankeli | i see |
| 16:40.17 | ZogG_laptop | it would be probably server client thing |
| 17:24.39 | ZogG_laptop | mankeli: the question is how to transfer files |
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| 17:34.01 | rZr | this makes me remind i have to update gitftp package |
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| 17:41.58 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: i saw your input, can be the way files send changes easily? |
| 17:42.10 | ZogG_laptop | i didn't see the code yet |
| 17:44.57 | rZr | ?? |
| 17:45.07 | rZr | gitftp ? |
| 17:45.18 | rZr | btw can anyone explain http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1229481&postcount=5 ? |
| 17:45.24 | rZr | i dont undersand |
| 17:48.08 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: i don't too, just ask to explain. btw you are over using tags, it's hard to read and it looks like ceo promotion |
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| 18:02.13 | rZr | :) |
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| 18:25.20 | rZr | lol @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiagovaz/7472980608/in/photostream |
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| 18:51.47 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: http://flickriver.com/search/n950/ |
| 18:54.51 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: here is photo of one n950 users =) http://www.flickr.com/photos/shoobe01/6852817904/ |
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| 18:57.43 | ZogG_laptop | it's stupid that n9 uses diffrent sim format thatn n950 |
| 19:05.31 | DocScrutinizer | rZr: not hard to understand - n9(50) being considered the least free maemo (if maemo at all) ever, by those who are used to maemo4/5 |
| 19:05.51 | DocScrutinizer | thanks to... (who will say it?) |
| 19:07.48 | leinir | the board of directors? |
| 19:10.04 | DocScrutinizer | more like this ancient french neck ornament cloth ;-D |
| 19:12.09 | ZogG_laptop | http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbraad/6968261041/ nice Mozilla Boot2Gecko/Gaia on N950 |
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| 19:16.34 | ZogG_laptop | http://www.flickr.com/photos/anidel/6551339671/ mother of maemo, but lumia ruining it |
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| 20:28.30 | M4rtinK | thp: you there ? :) |
| 20:28.42 | thp | M4rtinK: i am |
| 20:29.25 | M4rtinK | thp: would you mind to come to #pyside ? :) |
| 20:29.45 | M4rtinK | we are having some issues with your PySide port for Android and would like to ask a few questions :) |
| 20:45.24 | thp | M4rtinK: ok |
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| 20:58.44 | godofwar424 | Anybody know how to fix this error "Method "Connect" with signature "" on interface "org.bluez.Input" does not exist."?? |
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| 23:58.33 | Kozzi | is it possible to get source from https://gitorious.org/forum-qml |
| 23:59.59 | Elleo | of course, it's a git repository |