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| 05:20.23 | romaxa | is anyone here who tried to setup ubuntu precise, or debian rootfs on N9? |
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| 06:36.05 | koe | romaxa, try easy debian |
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| 08:51.08 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: ping |
| 08:51.10 | ZogG_laptop | ping all |
| 08:51.26 | rcg | pong |
| 08:51.31 | rcg | fwiw ;) |
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| 08:52.03 | ZogG_laptop | is developer.nokia id is the username there? |
| 08:52.09 | ZogG_laptop | or it must be some number |
| 08:54.25 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: ping |
| 08:54.45 | ZogG_laptop | i jut always associate ID with number =) |
| 08:55.09 | arcean | ZogG, no, it's ID :) |
| 08:55.22 | ZogG_laptop | so username? |
| 08:55.44 | ZogG_laptop | your "no" to username or to number =P |
| 08:55.48 | M4rtinK | they changed something about it didn't they ? |
| 08:55.56 | M4rtinK | something with the single sign on ? |
| 08:56.03 | ZogG_laptop | not yet |
| 08:56.13 | ZogG_laptop | they sent email about it |
| 08:56.22 | arcean | ZogG_laptop, go to your account Settings in developer.nokia.com |
| 08:56.41 | arcean | on the right side select "Developer Account" |
| 08:57.11 | ZogG_laptop | oh |
| 08:57.17 | arcean | and there you should have your "Account ID" :) |
| 08:57.40 | arcean | it's something like AID-xxxxxxx |
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| 09:00.01 | ZogG_laptop | arcean: yes thanks |
| 09:00.08 | arcean | np :) |
| 09:00.25 | ZogG_laptop | arcean: i made account there but never used |
| 09:00.39 | ZogG_laptop | i tried to request phone once in some program |
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| 09:17.13 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: so did you succeed with it =P |
| 09:18.28 | ZogG_laptop | Jaffa: ping |
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| 09:42.52 | romaxa | koe: is there are instructions for debian install on n950/n9? |
| 09:43.42 | romaxa | koe: I tried to use mermoslo-rootfs, + copied precise rootfs, that did not work by some reason |
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| 10:27.57 | blueslee | rzr: can you add python-mechanize to your repository? |
| 10:35.54 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: check the log above id is not username - fix the post |
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| 10:36.52 | blueslee | ZogG: ohh, what is the id? |
| 10:38.15 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: arcean : ZogG_laptop, go to your account Settings, arcean : on the right side select "Developer Account" |
| 10:38.41 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop : okay, one moment |
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| 10:40.41 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: did you pass QA today? |
| 10:40.58 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: i dont know what you exactly mean, you mean at https://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Settings.xhtml ? |
| 10:41.32 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: i passed QA on Friday withion 5 days but they played ping pong with me as of my "support website" |
| 10:42.56 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: what you selected as support site? |
| 10:43.07 | Elleo | ZogG_laptop: congratulations on getting accept :) |
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| 10:45.23 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: in the end i selected one from http://tiddlyspot.com/, quite simple |
| 10:46.48 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: can you tell me what i should exactly fix? i just wanted to point out that there is a 'blueslee' and also 'BluesLee' at developer.noki.com, the latter is me |
| 10:46.49 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: \o/ yay |
| 10:47.04 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: congratulations |
| 10:48.28 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: you see in up coner of developer.nokia -setting link |
| 10:48.29 | ZogG_laptop | go there |
| 10:48.38 | ZogG_laptop | than on right you see developer account link |
| 10:48.49 | ZogG_laptop | than you'll see AID-XXXXXXXXXXXX number |
| 10:50.01 | koe | romaxa, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1180952&postcount=57 |
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| 10:56.08 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: sorry, i dont see this AID, at https://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Settings.xhtml is see "Nokia Developer Profile" Profile and Settings ... on the right side there is Profile settings, Privacy, Password and Discussion boards |
| 10:56.57 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: i dropped quim also some emails, no one told me that i have to add a number id somewhere ... hmm |
| 10:59.36 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: under |
| 10:59.40 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: http://i48.tinypic.com/2yovqls.png |
| 11:00.03 | rzr | blueslee, done |
| 11:00.44 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: wow, this is missing in my case |
| 11:00.52 | blueslee | rzr: thank you very much |
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| 11:01.42 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i found the problem but don't know how to fix it =) |
| 11:02.10 | blueslee | ZogG: did you add a developer account there, this is getting interesting |
| 11:02.42 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: have no idea, i did it once a long time ago |
| 11:03.04 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: what is your initial role when you login? my is developer .. |
| 11:05.02 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: when you click on profile under Nokia Developer Profile what do you see as your "Role"? |
| 11:07.08 | blueslee | rzr: i need mechanize as a dependency for http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1213465 |
| 11:12.03 | rzr | blueslee, is that app opensource ? |
| 11:12.17 | blueslee | rzr: for sure, why? |
| 11:12.37 | rzr | i'll try to rebuilt it someday |
| 11:13.47 | SpeedEvil | was skimming over the post blueslee mentioned, and came to the line 'nipples, nipples' |
| 11:15.03 | blueslee | rzr: rebuild standbymee-efa? or mechanize? in case of the prior one i would wait as i plan to drop mechanize in future using a hidden api |
| 11:15.27 | blueslee | SpeedEvil: which one? tiddlyspot.com? |
| 11:15.53 | SpeedEvil | The screenshot in the above post. |
| 11:16.36 | blueslee | SpeedEvil: i have posted thre or four links, which one? |
| 11:16.50 | SpeedEvil | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1213465 |
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| 11:18.08 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: bus idea is great |
| 11:18.33 | blueslee | SpeedEvil: i dont understand why this should happen |
| 11:19.28 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: thanks ... stay tuned, there will be one more, better than chess and bus monitoring |
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| 11:20.38 | Lava_Croft | did anyone create an equivalent to Maemo5's WiFi Switcher yet |
| 11:21.40 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: i guess the aid you mentioned is with older accounts, in my case i miss "developer account" there or it has to do something with my initial role as a developer |
| 11:21.56 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: at least mor suprising |
| 11:23.22 | blueslee | SpeedEvil: can you check your skimming tool only using the first post? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1213465&postcount=1 |
| 11:23.23 | SpeedEvil | blueslee: It says nippes, nippes, I simply misread it. |
| 11:23.44 | SpeedEvil | blueslee: Sorry I was unclear. I read it as "nipples, nipples" |
| 11:23.52 | blueslee | SpeedEvil: okay:-) |
| 11:25.34 | ZogG_laptop | lol |
| 11:25.37 | ZogG_laptop | nipples app |
| 11:26.10 | ZogG_laptop | COBS is a mess |
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| 11:32.58 | rzr | blueslee, no i'd like to rebuild and share standbymee-efa? |
| 11:38.51 | blueslee | rzr: i am developing the app, its unfinished and written in python, uses the standby screen and it works for now with desktop files where the information about city and station is dropped |
| 11:40.57 | blueslee | rzr: i would need to add preinst and postrm scripts to handle system files for the operator logo etc otherwise adding it to a repo would make less sense |
| 11:45.07 | blueslee | rzr: as the users would need to do it on their own ... |
| 11:45.42 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i'm getting closer and closer with build =) |
| 11:45.45 | ZogG_laptop | but it's soooo slow |
| 11:46.42 | blueslee | rzr: can you tell me why you have about 394 posts but only 6 thanks? you are doing good work, i do not understand that |
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| 11:48.42 | ZogG_laptop | blueslee: coz he id doing good work not for noobs =) |
| 11:48.48 | ZogG_laptop | and they mostly give thanks |
| 11:49.05 | ZogG_laptop | i'm trying to give thanks even if i don't use the appp or work made by someone |
| 11:51.14 | blueslee | ZogG_laptop: i know that you are doing that ... for about 2 weeks i thought that no one uses standbymee-chess though there are thanks, now i know that it must be used, statistics on ovistore are good:-) |
| 11:54.41 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: ping |
| 11:55.06 | ZogG_laptop | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libshare-ui-common.so.0 needed by debian/imgrup/opt/imgrup/bin/imgrup (ELF format: 'elf32-littlearm'; RPATH: '/usr/lib'). |
| 11:55.12 | ZogG_laptop | anyone knows what does it mean? |
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| 12:00.40 | rzr | ZogG, back |
| 12:01.05 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: how do you find out the names of packages to add to control file? |
| 12:01.13 | rzr | <blueslee> rzr: can you tell me why you have about 394 posts but only 6 thanks? you are doing good work, i do not understand that |
| 12:01.19 | rzr | who cares ? |
| 12:01.24 | ZogG_laptop | and check the error above i pasted |
| 12:01.25 | rzr | maybe a bug |
| 12:02.17 | ZogG_laptop | bug about thanks or my error |
| 12:02.31 | rzr | <ZogG_laptop> dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libshare-ui-common.so.0 needed by debian/imgrup/opt/imgrup/bin/imgrup (ELF format: 'elf32-littlearm'; RPATH: '/usr/lib'). |
| 12:02.33 | rzr | that one |
| 12:02.50 | rzr | well i guess your apps depends on that but i wasnt installed |
| 12:02.55 | rzr | weird |
| 12:03.01 | rzr | should not happend i guess |
| 12:03.10 | rzr | do you have that in my log too ? |
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| 12:03.46 | rzr | <ZogG_laptop> rzr: how do you find out the names of packages to add to control file? |
| 12:03.58 | rzr | i look for errors |
| 12:04.05 | rzr | then search missing headers |
| 12:04.13 | rzr | apt-file search foo.h |
| 12:04.15 | rzr | will tell |
| 12:04.35 | rzr | then experience liltle bug , experience ! |
| 12:06.27 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i have no scratchbox |
| 12:06.42 | ZogG_laptop | can you find me libshare-ui-common.so.0 |
| 12:09.04 | ZogG_laptop | or better maemo-meegotouch-interfaces/shareuiinterface.h |
| 12:18.05 | ZogG_laptop | i build it |
| 12:18.10 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: \o/ |
| 12:19.44 | rzr | congratz ! |
| 12:19.52 | rzr | now step 2 : appformeego ! |
| 12:19.56 | rzr | "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed : everything else is public relations." -- George Orwell |
| 12:20.09 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: wait it opens and parly works |
| 12:20.26 | ZogG_laptop | can you install it and check, i just don't get urls and gallery of imgur |
| 12:22.05 | ZogG_laptop | oh right |
| 12:22.13 | ZogG_laptop | imgur is down for maintaince |
| 12:22.24 | rzr | what about webdav ? |
| 12:22.29 | ZogG_laptop | so it works |
| 12:22.30 | rzr | have u checked the other app |
| 12:22.35 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: there is client developed |
| 12:22.44 | ZogG_laptop | and webdav client for gdrive as well |
| 12:22.44 | rzr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84676&highlight=meedav&page=4 |
| 12:23.12 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: primary i want to make fully working imgrup app |
| 12:23.24 | rzr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1223122#post1223122 |
| 12:23.51 | rzr | well take your time |
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| 12:29.51 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: so you want to upload to cloud instead of imgrup? |
| 12:30.03 | ZogG_laptop | coz imgrup is mostly for imgur =) |
| 12:30.35 | ZogG_laptop | X-Fade: ping |
| 12:30.49 | rzr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1223149#post1223149 |
| 12:31.15 | ZogG_laptop | X-Fade: there is request stuck for 19h mine is after, is there option that one prevent mine from buing build or i need to give it a time |
| 12:32.16 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i nailed it =P i built it. YEAH it was problem with qmake, though i tried with this option before but it didn't work than |
| 12:34.27 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: i did it !!!!!! |
| 12:35.22 | Elleo | ZogG_laptop: awesome :) |
| 12:36.36 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: it was qmake problems i tried back qmake -recursive and it worked, though tryed before and it didn't apperantly i changed few more things =) |
| 12:37.08 | Elleo | cool |
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| 12:39.02 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: it's in apps for meego \o/ |
| 12:39.14 | Elleo | cool, I'll do QA for it in a bit :) |
| 12:39.33 | ZogG_laptop | you can't as it doesn't work due imgur down for maintaince =) |
| 12:39.40 | Elleo | ah, heh |
| 12:40.29 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: rzr khertan thp can you review my app as soon as imgur up? |
| 12:44.17 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: damn missing desctop file =) |
| 12:44.20 | ZogG_laptop | again =) |
| 12:44.30 | Elleo | heh |
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| 12:54.32 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: lol i think i made a new error =) |
| 12:54.46 | rzr | ZogG, will do , same for redak :) |
| 12:55.02 | Elleo | heh |
| 12:55.27 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i did already |
| 12:55.38 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: rzr khertan thp false alarm, still not there |
| 12:55.53 | rZr | i am gone anyway |
| 12:55.54 | rZr | later |
| 12:58.11 | ZogG_laptop | me too |
| 12:58.13 | ZogG_laptop | bye |
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| 13:34.56 | ZogG_laptop | ~ping |
| 13:34.57 | infobot | ~pong |
| 13:36.09 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: attempt number over9000 =) |
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| 13:36.31 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: can you check if it installs ok ? |
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| 13:36.45 | ZogG_laptop | i'll give you url to my local repo on COBS |
| 13:37.25 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/ZogG/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/imgrup_0.0.6.9_armel.deb |
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| 13:49.03 | Elleo | ZogG_laptop: seems to work :) |
| 13:49.26 | Elleo | haven't tried uploading anything but it installs and runs |
| 13:49.49 | Elleo | and the gallery works |
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| 13:52.30 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: gallery shouldn't work the one on top as imgur is down =) |
| 13:52.56 | Elleo | ZogG_laptop: well it works for me, so presumably it's back up |
| 13:52.57 | ZogG_laptop | ok i hae exam in 10 min i'm going |
| 13:53.06 | Elleo | works for me on the website too |
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| 13:56.45 | ZogG_N9 | elleo it works but i see i have problems with aegis |
| 13:56.55 | ZogG_N9 | Elleo, any idea? |
| 13:57.06 | Elleo | what problem are you having with aegis? |
| 13:57.26 | ZogG_N9 | try going to camera from bottop menu |
| 13:57.55 | Elleo | ah yeah, for camera stuff you need an item in your aegis manifest |
| 13:57.59 | ZogG_N9 | ok exam is here =) brb in hour or two |
| 13:58.10 | Elleo | good luck :) |
| 13:58.44 | Elleo | ZogG_N9: iirc all you need is GRP::video |
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| 13:59.09 | Elleo | that's all I needed for my ocr app which uses the camera |
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| 15:16.02 | pa | question: i see i can set the display timeout up to 3 min |
| 15:16.07 | pa | is there a way to disable it? |
| 15:17.47 | pa | and a way to bypass the light sensor, to invert the luminosity control? (dark = high brightness, light = low brightness) |
| 15:24.55 | ZogG_N9 | Elleo, i had all aegis stuff there |
| 15:25.55 | ZogG_N9 | it's like quest |
| 15:26.27 | pa | or even light = screen turned off, so that only when light is low, the screen turns on |
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| 15:27.29 | ZogG_laptop | hmm |
| 15:27.54 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: i see you have no manifest |
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| 16:05.33 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: i did it i think this time properly |
| 16:05.39 | ZogG_laptop | it took me few weeks =\ |
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| 16:47.26 | Elleo | ZogG_laptop: well done :), none of my published stuff needs a manifest it's only one of my unfinished apps that has one |
| 16:47.47 | jonni | pa: you can alter dim timout with gconf-tool |
| 16:48.32 | jonni | but there is a reason why UI doesnt allow more than 3 minutes by default. |
| 16:48.58 | pa | jonni, can i even disable it, via gconf? |
| 16:49.09 | pa | (and possible re-enable at application shutdown) |
| 16:49.34 | jonni | pa: depends what is disabling, I usually set it to 60000000 minutes. So its not disabled, but usually enough ;) |
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| 16:50.11 | pa | jonni, i have also another question: do you know whether it is possible to set the brightness to something very low, like in the standby screen, somehow? |
| 16:51.00 | pa | or even turn off and on the screen from an application? |
| 16:51.19 | pa | (f.ex. by sensing the proximity sensor, like in the examples) |
| 16:53.52 | jonni | echo 220 > /sys/devices/omapdss/display0/backlight/display0/brightness |
| 16:54.03 | jonni | you can enter values between 0-255 |
| 16:54.15 | jonni | 0 is black, and 255 is brighest |
| 16:55.03 | jonni | by default standby screen uses 7, if I remember right |
| 16:56.57 | jonni | echo 0 > /sys/devices/omapdss/display0/enabled # to turn screen totally off, and echo 1 to turn it back again |
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| 17:06.17 | pa | thank you so much! |
| 17:06.32 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: i did it maaaan, it was a lot of unclear things but pinpoint thru various setting revieled the truth =) now go to apps4meego and try 0.0.7 version =) |
| 17:06.42 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: you to try to install it from apps4meego |
| 17:06.50 | pa | jonni, very last question: it seems to me that by default , psm on or off doestn matter, the brightness is also modified by the light sensor |
| 17:07.14 | pa | any way to disable the automatic handling of that, so that i can do it in my app? |
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| 17:07.53 | jonni | yes, there is a way, but I dont remember if that is public api :) |
| 17:08.06 | jonni | forums might have solution already posted if I remember right |
| 17:08.16 | pa | ah, i can check then, thanks! |
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| 17:10.18 | jonni | also using some of those api's might be a problem for Ovi QA, since apps are not allowed to change default behaviour of the phone too much. But ok for apps4meego :) |
| 17:10.19 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: i have question too, when you leak the source of harmattan? |
| 17:10.48 | pa | well, i plan to leave it as a user's choice |
| 17:11.02 | pa | do you think that's still a problem? |
| 17:11.06 | pa | :) |
| 17:11.19 | jonni | heh, sources are so big that I doubt that anyone will ever leak them. |
| 17:12.07 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: bigger thing were leaked =) |
| 17:13.14 | admiral0 | jonni, meegotouchhome-nokia would be enough for me |
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| 17:13.35 | admiral0 | i want friggin' widgets on a page |
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| 17:14.15 | jonni | well anyways I dont work for Meego R&D anymore, so I dont have any clues if they are ever planning to release more sources. |
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| 17:14.44 | jonni | hopefully someking of cssu would happen, but thats only a hope. |
| 17:15.25 | ZogG_laptop | i think no cssu would happen |
| 17:15.43 | ZogG_laptop | devs are not the same and community is not the same as at n900 era |
| 17:16.48 | admiral0 | n9 is too locked down |
| 17:17.21 | ZogG_laptop | admiral0: what do you mean by too locked? |
| 17:17.39 | pa | good, well i cant find a non invasive way to do that, but i guess i can leave the light sensor on, if i can anyway dim the lum very much |
| 17:17.45 | jonni | well with sources and allcapa hack, it would be totally open, but thats not going to happen. |
| 17:17.48 | pa | so thanks :) |
| 17:18.14 | admiral0 | ZogG_laptop, aegis, too many bits are closed |
| 17:18.15 | pa | the problem is that if sources leak, no one will anyway be legally able to use them |
| 17:18.49 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i just don't use it anyway and it's on lowerest always, leave that to user with msg like "for better use low dim is adviced" |
| 17:19.45 | ZogG_laptop | admiral0: aegis is not really a problem imho, closed parts i another story but rewrites of parts would be nice, i remember when lockscreen on n900 was closed and now it has hundreds of mods for e.g. |
| 17:20.14 | pa | well my prob is that i want to have a real time app, that show stuff, disable the idling, but somehow turn on the screen only when needed. i was therefore thinking of doing it when i cover the light sensor |
| 17:20.19 | pa | :) |
| 17:22.24 | admiral0 | ZogG_laptop, i wanted to do a widget screen, no way to do that without an API or opening meegotouchhome-nokia |
| 17:22.56 | admiral0 | i even offered to do the work and create the API under NDA |
| 17:23.04 | admiral0 | nope |
| 17:23.11 | admiral0 | so fuck nokia |
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| 17:23.34 | admiral0 | they didn't want the n9 to succeed |
| 17:23.38 | pa | fuck not just nokia |
| 17:23.53 | pa | i even offered sportstracker to work for them for free, no answer |
| 17:24.00 | pa | so i do my own :) |
| 17:24.02 | admiral0 | oh, one little detail, i offered to do the work for free |
| 17:24.48 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: ping |
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| 17:24.58 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: ping |
| 17:25.07 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: pong |
| 17:25.39 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: i sent quim the id on nokia, but not sure if i did right, as i sent it thru forum form, does he explained where and how to send?> |
| 17:26.43 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: "Please add below your preference for N950 or N9 and send an email to quim.gil nokia com with your Nokia Developer userID. Make sure your Nokia Developer profile contains the right contact & shipping details. Thanks! " so not through forum but directly to his nokia.com email. |
| 17:27.35 | pa | ZogG_laptop, do you know whether the device program is still ongoing? |
| 17:27.46 | M4rtinK | jonni: there might by also issues with aegis |
| 17:27.56 | pa | meaning that ccould someone in principle still get a device, if an app is sent like this week? |
| 17:27.58 | jonni | thats in the wiki righ under the accepted text. |
| 17:27.59 | M4rtinK | but it might work in open mode |
| 17:28.35 | jonni | pa: device programs are already closed from new submissions, only the coding competition and community awards are open anymore. |
| 17:29.06 | pa | ah okay.. so i should submit an app, and hope community will like it? |
| 17:29.42 | jonni | submit app to coding competition, and hope that you get enough votes in your category, and that way you way you can win a device. |
| 17:29.51 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: don't forget to document your COBS odyssey on the wiki once you have some free time :) |
| 17:31.40 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: sure though i think i forgot few things already =))) |
| 17:32.00 | ZogG_laptop | pa: which one? to ovi? i think i'm the last one |
| 17:39.21 | pa | jonni, i see an "adaptive_display_dim_threshold" in gconf |
| 17:39.32 | pa | do you think i can sort of trick the light sensor by changing that one? |
| 17:40.06 | pa | ah there is also an "use_adaptive_display_dimming" |
| 17:44.26 | romaxa | koe: ping |
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| 18:13.47 | pa | hm.. is it normal that qtcreator cant find gconfitem.h? |
| 18:14.05 | ajalkane | pa: I think not. What version you're using? |
| 18:14.24 | pa | latest |
| 18:14.25 | pa | 121 |
| 18:14.39 | ajalkane | An the target is Harmattan? |
| 18:14.48 | pa | yes, qemued harmattan |
| 18:15.00 | pa | im trying also with remote compiler, but it also doesnt find it |
| 18:15.15 | ajalkane | 121 is old as Jesus |
| 18:15.24 | pa | i mean qtsdk 1.2.1 |
| 18:15.25 | ajalkane | My version is 2.4.1 and even that is old |
| 18:15.33 | ajalkane | Oh |
| 18:15.36 | pa | its 2.4.1 |
| 18:15.39 | pa | yes |
| 18:16.36 | pa | well i guess i can work it around, somehow |
| 18:16.49 | pa | with a system() or two |
| 18:17.21 | ajalkane | I see... hmm... I've had no problems with qconfitem.h with that version |
| 18:17.45 | pa | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.52 | pa | ah, qconfitem? |
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| 18:18.00 | ajalkane | yeah |
| 18:18.08 | ajalkane | ah no |
| 18:18.09 | pa | i was talking about gconfitem :) |
| 18:18.11 | ajalkane | sorry... misspelled |
| 18:18.21 | ajalkane | I'm including it also as gconfitem.h, no problems |
| 18:18.23 | pa | ah okay |
| 18:26.09 | pa | ah maybe gq/gconfitem? |
| 18:26.32 | ajalkane | I have just strictly |
| 18:26.36 | ajalkane | #include <gconfitem.h> |
| 18:27.04 | ajalkane | Aah... but you need in .pro file: |
| 18:27.04 | ajalkane | PKGCONFIG += gq-gconf |
| 18:27.10 | pa | ah thats it |
| 18:27.12 | pa | thanks :) |
| 18:27.17 | ajalkane | no probs |
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| 19:01.01 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: ping |
| 19:01.07 | itsnotabigtruck | hmm, my community award application turned out non-ideal due to the formatting :( |
| 19:01.08 | itsnotabigtruck | http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-June/005482.html |
| 19:01.35 | MohammadAG | Pong |
| 19:01.56 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: what should i enter in VAT info on nokia dev account? |
| 19:02.07 | MohammadAG | What's that? |
| 19:02.54 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: say what? |
| 19:03.14 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: something about taxes. do you have developer acc? |
| 19:03.52 | itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: i just emailed the message in that link but it became all messed up |
| 19:04.14 | ZogG_laptop | oh, i though you was denied due format |
| 19:04.41 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: i think i was accepted to nokia ovi applications or what's the name |
| 19:12.28 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: you are welcome to try imgrup from apps4meego =P |
| 19:21.55 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: btw account doesn't have token as i extrated info |
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| 19:34.04 | rZr | back |
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| 19:35.35 | Venemo_N9 | hey |
| 19:36.22 | rZr | hi Venemo_N9 , i see the news is not affecting us , stronger than never ? |
| 19:37.01 | Venemo_N9 | rZr, well, it didn't surprise me |
| 19:37.38 | rZr | cancelation of meltemi was unexpected |
| 19:38.47 | Venemo_N9 | well, we already knew that they were stupid. what else's new? |
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| 19:40.03 | rZr | btw there is h team in gitorious |
| 19:40.33 | Venemo_N9 | h team = ? |
| 19:40.57 | rZr | https://gitorious.org/+harmattan |
| 19:41.15 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, yes, but I don't recall something like that |
| 19:41.18 | MohammadAG | leave it empty? |
| 19:41.19 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: check the appp |
| 19:41.26 | rZr | how ? |
| 19:41.28 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: can u check |
| 19:41.40 | ZogG_laptop | it is empty for now |
| 19:42.25 | Venemo_N9 | rZr, ah, I see |
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| 19:44.27 | MohammadAG | never seen a green bee before |
| 19:44.30 | MohammadAG | gotta love Haifa |
| 19:44.47 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, where is it? |
| 19:44.58 | Venemo_N9 | :) |
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| 19:49.48 | rZr | khertan, just rebuilt it for shared repo that's all |
| 19:50.43 | rZr | Does there is still true gnu/linux phone os alive ? (no, android isn't gnu/linux) |
| 19:50.50 | rZr | khertan, gta04 ? |
| 19:52.06 | MohammadAG | no, but a jailbroken iOS device is a good alternative :P |
| 19:53.04 | Venemo_N9 | rZr, Mer/Nemo, Tizen, whatever |
| 19:53.19 | rZr | that was khertan question on twitter |
| 19:54.28 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: it's in setting - developer account |
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| 19:55.50 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: ping |
| 19:56.01 | algol | pong |
| 19:56.13 | ZogG_laptop | lol |
| 19:56.34 | ZogG_laptop | who is algol (soul caliber?) and why he thinks he is M4rtinK =) |
| 20:01.44 | ZogG_laptop | X-Fade: ping |
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| 20:03.46 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, empty |
| 20:04.33 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: than ok =) |
| 20:04.36 | ZogG_laptop | mine too |
| 20:04.54 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: ping |
| 20:04.58 | rZr | pong |
| 20:05.00 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: ping |
| 20:05.12 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: try the last version from apps4meego =) |
| 20:06.15 | Venemo_N9 | ZogG, pong |
| 20:07.50 | rZr | 0.0.7 ? |
| 20:08.11 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: yeap |
| 20:08.12 | rZr | let me suggest to release 0.Y.Z with Y >= 1 |
| 20:08.22 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: i would like to to check my app as well =) |
| 20:08.59 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: it was 0.0.6.9 =) |
| 20:09.17 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: i'll make it 0.7 than =) |
| 20:09.31 | ZogG_laptop | 0.7.X |
| 20:09.33 | rZr | I prefer X.Y.Z |
| 20:09.39 | rZr | that one is ok |
| 20:10.02 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: than 0.7.Z Z is var as X =) |
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| 20:11.55 | MohammadAG | I prefer the standard debian X.Y-Z |
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| 20:12.22 | Venemo_N9 | ZogG, what app is that? |
| 20:12.50 | rZr | MohammadAG, X.Y.Z-D |
| 20:14.34 | ZogG_laptop | e-yes: imgrup |
| 20:14.38 | ZogG_laptop | oops |
| 20:14.40 | ZogG_laptop | wrong guy |
| 20:14.48 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: imgrup |
| 20:15.22 | Venemo_N9 | ZogG_laptop, and what's imgrup? |
| 20:17.35 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: img uploader to imgur.com |
| 20:17.52 | Venemo_N9 | ahm |
| 20:17.53 | Venemo_N9 | :) |
| 20:19.15 | e-yes | ZogG, Am I wrong? WHY???7sevenseven |
| 20:20.22 | ZogG_laptop | e-yes: lol |
| 20:20.39 | ZogG_laptop | e-yes: i thought there is only !!!!1111адинадин =) |
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| 20:25.49 | rZr | ZogG, working !!! https://twitter.com/rzrfreefr/status/214453464556769280 |
| 20:32.30 | rZr | ZogG, i reviewed yours |
| 20:34.08 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: thanks, i fixed aegis as well =) now it should work properly |
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| 20:40.18 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: yeah added sharing one of last versions |
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| 20:59.19 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: btw i thought of what you said about other hosts to upload, i think the better way is to work on native sharing utils for harmattan and i need to work on upload plugin for imgrup and if i succeed in it i might try to make an dummy when you can make your own provider files to use with so it would make it easier. |
| 21:00.19 | ZogG_laptop | in other words to make upload plugins for type of services and app to add provider files for those plugins with info like hostname port and folder for ftp for example =) |
| 21:00.23 | Venemo_N9 | ha! |
| 21:00.30 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: ? |
| 21:00.45 | Venemo_N9 | did you guys know that MeeCast can replace the accuweather widget? |
| 21:01.04 | Venemo_N9 | I just got rid of accuweather once and for all |
| 21:01.29 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: yeeees, i have it for aloong time now =) it has also widget for low power screen and lock screen =P |
| 21:01.49 | Venemo_N9 | yeee |
| 21:01.52 | Venemo_N9 | I love it |
| 21:02.11 | Venemo_N9 | anyway, I'm still new to the N9 :) |
| 21:02.15 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: there is coderus's app to get rid of native apps with no harm btw if you want to delete default apps at all |
| 21:02.27 | Venemo_N9 | so this was news to me |
| 21:02.37 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: oh, you just got it, right =) have you finished the port? or started? |
| 21:02.39 | Venemo_N9 | ZogG, which ones should I delete? |
| 21:02.50 | ZogG_laptop | i understand it was coz of qt5 port apps right? |
| 21:02.59 | Venemo_N9 | that is correct |
| 21:03.22 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: i didn't delete any, but you can delete music store for example coz if you don't use it |
| 21:03.32 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: did you start to port? |
| 21:03.36 | Venemo_N9 | ok |
| 21:03.49 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: i think i'm getting one too, but i want n950 =(((( |
| 21:03.55 | Venemo_N9 | I spent most of my time with helping out Devaamo and meeting people |
| 21:04.23 | Venemo_N9 | I'll start with Qt 5 once I get home from my holiday |
| 21:04.28 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: i heard you made speach, any video i can laught at you? |
| 21:04.42 | ZogG_laptop | s/speach/speech/ |
| 21:04.47 | Venemo_N9 | not uploaded yet, but there'll be |
| 21:04.56 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: =P |
| 21:05.47 | ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: btw are you innvolved in BB ? i think to buy playbook |
| 21:07.54 | Venemo_N9 | I haven't tried yet, sorry |
| 21:08.04 | Venemo_N9 | I wanted to, but didn't had the time |
| 21:17.16 | beford | I think w00t got a playbook |
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| 21:21.53 | MohammadAG | Play book specs are cool |
| 21:24.26 | jonni | heh, I didnt have time to do almost any networking in Devaamo, but the free beer and wine was ok :=) |
| 21:27.46 | ZogG_laptop | i think Jaffa has playbook |
| 21:28.03 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i nailed it, try imgrup 0.0.7 and review it please =) |
| 21:28.26 | beford | cool |
| 21:28.26 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: did you met Venemo_N9 ? |
| 21:28.34 | beford | url ZogG_laptop |
| 21:29.07 | ZogG_laptop | btw i liked Linus speech when one guy asked how many were involved in maemo/meego thing and a lot raised arms, wonder who was there from TMO |
| 21:29.20 | ZogG_laptop | beford: http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Other/imgrup/# |
| 21:29.45 | Venemo_N9 | hey jonni, have we met? |
| 21:30.06 | Venemo_N9 | IRC nicks should've been written on the badges |
| 21:30.45 | jonni | Venemo_N9: heh yes, badges didnt have irc nicks, I was the guy who won Devaamo hacking challenge. |
| 21:31.03 | ZogG_laptop | nice, from thp's link on twitter — Python on the PlayBook/BB10 platform. This project is building up core capabilities to let anyone write Python apps for BB10. Work is currently focused on using PySide and the BlackBerry Qt port. |
| 21:31.06 | Venemo_N9 | ah, right :) congrats! |
| 21:31.21 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: nice, what was the challange? |
| 21:31.26 | Venemo_N9 | jonni, you grabbed the N950, right! |
| 21:31.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I wrote my nick to all badges I used on any meetings ;-D |
| 21:31.49 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: you unfair, are you collecting them? how many of those you have? |
| 21:32.08 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: i wonder how you look like |
| 21:32.15 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: 10 different kind of puzzles where you need to figure out login/pass and url, ranging from riddles to extracting them from inside binaries. |
| 21:32.15 | ZogG_laptop | do you look like* |
| 21:32.31 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: this was my 1st CE marked N950. |
| 21:32.31 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: nice =) |
| 21:32.59 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: but you had few as you told before as few n9 =P |
| 21:33.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | dnag, now you can feel with us normal mortals finally |
| 21:33.05 | ZogG_laptop | or i'm mistaken |
| 21:33.14 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: for example number 4 puzzle was http://linuxi.org/4.html |
| 21:33.57 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: i'm too dumb for those things =) |
| 21:34.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonni: WTF? |
| 21:34.31 | ZogG_laptop | ok night |
| 21:34.47 | jonni | I wrote 5 liner perl to extracl login/pass/url from that dataset :) |
| 21:36.26 | jonni | (you had to figure out that uppercase letters made one set, lowercase a second set and morse code a 3rd set and then parse it in human readable format) |
| 21:37.00 | jonni | it took quite a while before I figured that out, since there was no hints. |
| 21:37.27 | kimju | jonni, how long it took to solve all the puzzles? |
| 21:37.44 | jonni | I dont know 5-6 hours or so |
| 21:42.39 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: I've had few silver protoes before, but those are not that usable, because of limited memory. But now alteast I have a real memory from my meego times. |
| 21:43.10 | rZr | who owns a bb10 device here ? |
| 21:43.38 | beford | looks like a nice set of challenges jonni, congrats |
| 21:44.02 | mankeli | jonni: btw...did you get fired aswell? |
| 21:44.47 | jonni | mankeli: yes, I'm among the 3700 people who will get sacked. |
| 21:46.48 | mankeli | ok. I thought so :/ |
| 21:48.11 | mankeli | i read that they blocked employees from all repositories during the last day |
| 21:49.15 | mankeli | or that the repos were just blocked |
| 21:49.43 | jonni | not entirely true, and nobody is fired yet, consultations will begin, but it will take 6 or so weeks before people actually get fired. |
| 21:50.54 | mankeli | yes, of course |
| 21:51.38 | rZr | well lets hope that part of nok will be sold to whoever want to resume that ... like webos but w/ brighter future |
| 21:52.23 | jonni | there arent that many buyers out there. Only big enough company would be facebook :) |
| 21:52.42 | Venemo_N9 | mankeli, that repo blocking thing is just rumor, I personally am not sure if it's true |
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| 21:53.00 | Venemo_N9 | or is it? |
| 21:53.35 | rZr | who cares if it is true or not ? |
| 21:53.52 | jonni | "the register" says they they only blocked the secret project repo, rest of the repoes are still open like Qt5 :) |
| 21:54.14 | mankeli | Venemo_N9: oh. my guess was that they tried to force people not to take any souvenirs :D |
| 21:54.47 | mankeli | isn't qt5 a public repo anyway? |
| 21:54.56 | rZr | btw the sources of symbian^3 leaked |
| 21:55.07 | rZr | but where did it go ? |
| 21:55.54 | jonni | mankeli: yes public on most of the parts :) |
| 21:56.17 | Venemo_N9 | so what if they blocked it? didn't everyone already had it cloned on their computers? |
| 21:57.01 | jonni | mankeli: and even the qt5 repo will be needing someone to host it, since nokia will stop most likely stop paying to host it at some point. |
| 21:57.38 | mankeli | rZr: and as for the companies interested in nokia's linux stuff, now there's also tizen as a competitor |
| 21:57.48 | rZr | qt5 on wp7 should leak :) |
| 21:57.53 | jonni | (just like maemo.org will be needing a new host) |
| 21:58.23 | rZr | mankeli, i fear tizen is more vulnerable than meego was |
| 21:59.24 | mankeli | hmm, in platform security viewpoint or otherwise? |
| 21:59.45 | rZr | the community is weak today |
| 22:00.07 | beford | is there a community for tizen? |
| 22:00.13 | rZr | and the platform is less advanced that 1st release of meego ... |
| 22:00.17 | rZr | beford, i guess yes |
| 22:00.27 | rZr | beford, why should not be ? |
| 22:00.43 | beford | last time I checked they did not even allow to register on the website :P |
| 22:00.57 | rZr | you're blacklisted :) |
| 22:01.01 | beford | =C |
| 22:01.05 | rZr | as a microsoft trojan :) |
| 22:01.16 | rZr | no idea |
| 22:01.21 | rZr | ask in #tizen |
| 22:01.31 | rZr | but the website is kinda poor yet |
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| 22:02.19 | mankeli | bah |
| 22:04.24 | mankeli | the thing that irritates me most is that selop is talking about nokia being finnish company and all, while laying off LOTS of people, and most of these are finns |
| 22:05.09 | rZr | that's global market ... |
| 22:05.41 | Sniper_swe | n9 will be my last nokia for sure!! |
| 22:06.08 | Venemo_N9 | for sure |
| 22:06.49 | rZr | who cares |
| 22:06.54 | mankeli | i know that, but it's still irritating that there's this trojan horse of a guy coming in as a savior and then ends up nicely packaging the company for microsoft to buy |
| 22:07.12 | rZr | let's hope that one will last forever too :) |
| 22:07.26 | rZr | mankeli, we all knew that |
| 22:07.43 | itsnotabigtruck | anyone know if it's actually required to specify full name in a community award submission |
| 22:07.44 | mankeli | and after that we have an crashing ios, fragmented android, neurotically closed wp and some korean tizen |
| 22:07.48 | itsnotabigtruck | estel replied claiming that it is |
| 22:08.04 | itsnotabigtruck | iirc a bunch of other applications don't have it, and i thought it was settled before that it's not required |
| 22:08.05 | rZr | yes he did that to me |
| 22:08.06 | itsnotabigtruck | so now i'm confused :| |
| 22:08.12 | rZr | i did reveal mine |
| 22:08.32 | rZr | itsnotabigtruck, this is microsoft new privacy rules :) |
| 22:09.12 | rZr | i guess those nokia friends are giving us what need to be saved ... |
| 22:09.16 | rZr | this is scary |
| 22:09.16 | mankeli | rZr: yes we knew, but i still hoped that we would have at least meltemi coming :/ |
| 22:16.20 | beford | +1 |
| 22:16.37 | Venemo_N9 | good night guys :) |
| 22:21.03 | itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: korean tizen? |
| 22:21.12 | itsnotabigtruck | is it being taken up only by korean vendors, or something |
| 22:23.24 | mankeli | no no sorry, i mixed it up with bada |
| 22:23.37 | mankeli | or whatever the samsung's os is called |
| 22:23.53 | itsnotabigtruck | ah\ |
| 22:24.22 | mankeli | but hmm, i guess samsung plays a big part in tizen's development too |
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| 22:29.45 | rZr | been told that there is no future for BADA and TIZEN : bada3 is tizen2 |
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| 22:32.18 | ieatlint | tizen is mostly a joke as far as i can tell |
| 22:32.26 | itsnotabigtruck | rzr: interesting |
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| 22:41.48 | rZr | btw have worked on bada ? |
| 22:45.50 | itsnotabigtruck | in my case: no |
| 22:45.53 | itsnotabigtruck | though i've heard of it |
| 22:47.52 | rZr | i did, and it was pretty painful |
| 22:48.16 | rZr | on early sdk it took me a day to deploy my app on device ... |
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| 23:00.17 | rZr | https://twitter.com/w00teh/status/172055353721225216 |
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