| 00:03.41 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: ping |
| 00:05.36 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: updated to 0.2 and now i get error MApplicationService registerServie() regiteing failed |
| 00:09.38 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: because of update ? |
| 00:09.49 | tgalal_ | when launching wazapp? |
| 00:11.32 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: yes |
| 00:12.38 | ZogG_laptop | new splash is nice, btw there were few nice themes there in thread, maybe themes should be inmplentened as separete files, so more could be added (after adding setting ) |
| 00:13.36 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: themes are the last thing I'd currently think about :P |
| 00:17.00 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: any ideas what might be my problem? |
| 00:17.17 | ZogG_laptop | need more lines? |
| 00:17.24 | ZogG_laptop | i would paaste them |
| 00:17.40 | ZogG_laptop | it actually opens, i saw it, and crashes |
| 00:17.55 | ZogG_laptop | like for less than second i see chats screen |
| 00:18.21 | tgalal_ | yeah could u send more output from terminal? |
| 00:18.26 | itsnotabigtruck | tgalal_: now how about publishing the sauce :p |
| 00:18.27 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: ^ |
| 00:18.40 | tgalal_ | itsnotabigtruck: it's gonna be this week |
| 00:18.54 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, cool |
| 00:18.57 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: yeah, gonna paste, you want all of it or only last lines? |
| 00:19.28 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: yeah all |
| 00:19.50 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: btw i see telepathy stuff releated to my jabber account in log o_O |
| 00:20.06 | itsnotabigtruck | how likely do you guys think it is for PR1.3 to be released the coming week |
| 00:20.16 | SpeedEvil | 8.3% |
| 00:20.20 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 00:20.24 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: maybe for n950 but don't think so |
| 00:20.30 | itsnotabigtruck | well, it has to be soon\ |
| 00:20.37 | itsnotabigtruck | rumor was before the end of may |
| 00:20.40 | itsnotabigtruck | which sounds about right |
| 00:20.59 | itsnotabigtruck | so we're basically talking about in the next 2 weeks, maybe the next 3 weeks |
| 00:21.18 | itsnotabigtruck | that means tomorrow is in the realm of possibility |
| 00:21.34 | itsnotabigtruck | i doubt they're going to do a release for N950 first, that was a one-time deal with PR1.2 |
| 00:21.35 | SpeedEvil | imagines 1.3 being released with a huge global marketing campaign, and flash. |
| 00:21.41 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 00:22.05 | SpeedEvil | After Nokia buys Flash from Adobe. |
| 00:22.45 | itsnotabigtruck | heh |
| 00:22.56 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: it was always n950 nd than n9 |
| 00:23.28 | itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: the only time since the N9 was released that the N950 has lead the N9 in updates was PR1.2 |
| 00:23.43 | itsnotabigtruck | and even then, they never actually released the final PR1.2 build for the N950 |
| 00:24.37 | ZogG_laptop | hmmm |
| 00:24.42 | itsnotabigtruck | chances are it'll be one of the 21st, 22nd, 28th, or 29th this month |
| 00:24.49 | itsnotabigtruck | for N9 and maybe N950 |
| 00:25.30 | itsnotabigtruck | but who knows how they'll handle the N950 release, because they keep changing that |
| 00:29.52 | ZogG_laptop | damn |
| 00:30.08 | ZogG_laptop | i can't ssh as a user to N9 right? |
| 00:30.16 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: wait... it's long one |
| 00:30.42 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: though i see qml error there as well, don't think it's the one related but still |
| 00:30.56 | Elleo | ZogG_laptop: you can ssh as developer and then become user via devel-su |
| 00:31.19 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: oh, i tried sith su user :P |
| 00:31.36 | Elleo | do just "devel-su" first to become root, then "devel-su user" |
| 00:31.45 | ZogG_laptop | Elleo: it asks for password :) |
| 00:31.55 | Elleo | that's why you do it via root |
| 00:31.56 | ZogG_laptop | not sure if i want to change my user password |
| 00:32.03 | Elleo | then you don't need a password |
| 00:32.40 | itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: do it AFTER BECOMING ROOT |
| 00:32.45 | itsnotabigtruck | no need to set a user password |
| 00:32.50 | itsnotabigtruck | so do devel-su twice |
| 00:33.24 | itsnotabigtruck | or do this: devel-su -c 'devel-su user' |
| 00:33.25 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: maybe we try with last part of log first |
| 00:33.54 | tgalal_ | tgalal_: and don't run it as root |
| 00:34.01 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: ^ |
| 00:34.17 | tgalal_ | I know I need to sleep when I start sending messages to myself |
| 00:38.36 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: http://pastebin.com/k2JrsiR6 |
| 00:39.46 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: "I don't often send msgs to myself — but when i do i touch myself as well" |
| 00:43.39 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: MApplicationService: registerService() registering failed |
| 00:43.48 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: did you try reboot ? |
| 00:45.52 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: nope |
| 00:46.16 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: trying now |
| 00:46.51 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: i didn't reboot during first install btw |
| 00:47.05 | ZogG_laptop | while it's rebooting gonna grab cig and coke |
| 00:48.59 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: hmmm, it worked |
| 00:49.35 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: see, I'm awesome |
| 00:49.36 | tgalal_ | :P |
| 00:49.56 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: btw when you do next release can you add separetor to chats as well |
| 00:50.12 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: separator? |
| 00:51.20 | ZogG_laptop | slightly seen line for half screen size in middle |
| 00:51.40 | ZogG_laptop | like the one that separets letters in contatcs list |
| 00:51.54 | ZogG_laptop | but better to make it not full width size |
| 00:52.04 | tgalal_ | aha |
| 00:52.58 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: and in about - you don't need close button |
| 00:53.12 | ZogG_laptop | but if you leave it, than at least move it little bit lower |
| 00:53.44 | ZogG_laptop | as well as few screens you could lock to portrait only, like about and maybe few sync |
| 00:55.01 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: do you have wazapp opened? |
| 00:55.47 | ZogG_laptop | yes |
| 00:56.24 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: one more thing btw, the toolbar in botom, hide it in conversation and add back button to top one |
| 00:57.18 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: cool, queued those for 0.2.4 update |
| 00:57.28 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: meanwhile, would u like to test auto update? |
| 00:57.39 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: why not |
| 00:58.12 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: do i need to do something (can't see any option) or it would notify me |
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| 00:58.41 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: disconnect, reconnect |
| 00:58.58 | ZogG_laptop | close/open you mean? |
| 00:59.07 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: no just the network |
| 00:59.29 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: it checks once connected |
| 00:59.32 | ZogG_laptop | worked |
| 00:59.52 | ZogG_laptop | niiiiice |
| 01:00.24 | ZogG_laptop | black screen and when going to details i see the full changelog |
| 01:00.47 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: why don't you integrate it as notification or something, or it's not allowed by api? |
| 01:01.01 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: such an awesome idea! |
| 01:01.19 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: i love you man EMOJI |
| 01:01.34 | tgalal_ | :D |
| 01:01.40 | tgalal_ | no sending yet |
| 01:01.44 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: btw would it show retroactivy? |
| 01:01.55 | tgalal_ | retro what? |
| 01:02.10 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: those that were sent before i updated? |
| 01:02.25 | tgalal_ | sure |
| 01:02.31 | ZogG_laptop | nice |
| 01:02.34 | ZogG_laptop | gonna check it |
| 01:03.10 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: i think you are hero of meego for this month =) |
| 01:03.42 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: ask in competition forum if you can perticapate |
| 01:04.06 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: oh there is a competition forum? |
| 01:04.08 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: i have a great idea how you can troll Nokia |
| 01:04.25 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: meego competition with n9 and n950 prices |
| 01:07.43 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: nowi see udate button and menu is nicer and it didn't went back to black theme =P |
| 01:07.52 | imunsie | ZogG_laptop: "i can't ssh as a user to N9 right?" <- Of course you can, either set a password on the user account or add your ssh key to authorized_keys |
| 01:08.29 | imunsie | Only reason it doesn't work out of the box is because the user account doesn't have a password and PermitEmptyPasswords=no |
| 01:08.30 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: meh, resolved it |
| 01:09.36 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: i'm linux user myself, just afraid to change user password as i don't know harmattan that wel so it might break things and all the limited bash =( |
| 01:10.04 | imunsie | no, nothing breaks if user has a password |
| 01:10.11 | imunsie | at least, nothing I've come accross |
| 01:10.39 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: there are things you don't touch if yoou don't understand |
| 01:11.00 | imunsie | best way to learn is to break it & fix it :) |
| 01:11.03 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: with root privilage comes great responsobility spiderman |
| 01:11.18 | imunsie | indeed |
| 01:11.51 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: yeah it took me night when i updated to pr1.2 manualy by changing repo to global and manually reinstalling meta packages and resolving conflicts |
| 01:12.17 | ZogG_laptop | for my luck when half of screen and things didn't work terminal was still running (did it on the phone) |
| 01:12.43 | imunsie | ouch |
| 01:13.00 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: negative, can't see emoji, at least i think it's emoji, as my gf sent it to me and i got square symbol |
| 01:13.06 | imunsie | I generally try to minimise the amount of crap I install |
| 01:13.10 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: it's working nice now |
| 01:13.27 | imunsie | I remember similar conflicts upgrading the N800 due to copious amounts of crap installed and conflicting |
| 01:13.39 | imunsie | cool |
| 01:13.48 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: the prs are just metapackages like in bubuntu u have xubuntu and kubuntu, it's just meta package |
| 01:14.01 | imunsie | yeah |
| 01:14.04 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: install gentoo on n800 |
| 01:14.34 | ZogG_laptop | from n900 you can even make calls with gentoo =P |
| 01:14.36 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: that's not possible |
| 01:14.38 | tgalal_ | lol |
| 01:14.42 | imunsie | lol, never got into the gentoo thing |
| 01:14.55 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: not possible what? |
| 01:15.01 | ZogG_laptop | gentoo orr emoji? |
| 01:15.04 | imunsie | I've migrated between lots of distros, but once I found Debian I never looked back |
| 01:15.05 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: emoji |
| 01:15.21 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: she has BB maybe they are lightly different |
| 01:15.22 | imunsie | Well, there WAS that whole affair with Ubuntu, but it kept breaking my heart |
| 01:15.24 | imunsie | err, box |
| 01:15.47 | ZogG_laptop | can't test now as i have no whatsapp friend awake with emoji =\ |
| 01:16.15 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: i tried ubuntu on laptop maybe 7 times |
| 01:16.19 | ZogG_laptop | didn't last a week |
| 01:16.23 | ZogG_laptop | same with arch |
| 01:16.28 | ZogG_laptop | always going back to gentoo |
| 01:16.34 | ZogG_laptop | though now it's funtoo |
| 01:18.11 | tgalal_ | oh a gentoo friend |
| 01:18.23 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: you too? |
| 01:18.34 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: yeah |
| 01:18.58 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: gonna go funtoo on Desktop too soon |
| 01:19.18 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: Daniel Robbins is my fcebook friend, now you can touch me |
| 01:20.31 | imunsie | I always wanted to try gentoo because of how much you are supposed to learn by doing it, but now that I've been hacking on the kernel for a couple of years doing quite low level stuff - including porting the kernel to little endian PPC and having to build and fix my own tool chain + libc for that... I'm not sure how much there is left from gentoo for me to learn, other than gentoo itself |
| 01:21.16 | imunsie | speaking of own kernels, I've been trying to dig up resources of the consequences of running an open mode kernel |
| 01:22.06 | imunsie | I noticed a mention of a bit set when an open mode kernel is booted the first time, and not cleared until a full reflash - but what, if anything, pays attention to that bit? |
| 01:22.24 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: it's now everything about kernel, and i use gentoo not coz of learning |
| 01:22.32 | ZogG_laptop | it's just most logical system i tried |
| 01:22.46 | imunsie | fair enough |
| 01:24.20 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1209166#post1209166 — check screen in this post for black theme and source the post below |
| 01:24.56 | imunsie | I've used it in so far as using Koroora (which was originally a way for Chris to get his friends to try Gentoo without spending three days installing the system every time, not it's fedora based though), and boot CDs based on it (SystemRescueCD mostly) |
| 01:25.20 | imunsie | s/not/now/ |
| 01:25.45 | tgalal_ | ZogG_laptop: yeah I like that, defintely will use |
| 01:26.02 | tgalal_ | most probably in next version as well |
| 01:26.02 | ZogG_laptop | imunsie: Calculate is out of box, but that it ruines gentoo's idea |
| 01:26.12 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: =* |
| 01:26.22 | ZogG_laptop | still wonder how we can try emoji |
| 01:27.28 | beford | thanks for hidding the statusbard tgalal_ |
| 01:28.43 | ZogG_laptop | russian keyboard in landscape is the best layout it's exactly filled with letters |
| 01:28.54 | ZogG_laptop | while english and hebrew have spaces |
| 01:29.34 | tgalal_ | beford: something should be done about the top bar as well in landscape mode |
| 01:30.13 | Sazpaimon | hey tgalal_ |
| 01:30.18 | Sazpaimon | congrats on the release btw |
| 01:30.37 | Sazpaimon | hopefully the children will eventually settle down |
| 01:31.02 | Sazpaimon | except this guy: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84366 |
| 01:31.18 | tgalal_ | Sazpaimon: lol yeah, saw that |
| 01:31.20 | tgalal_ | he sent me a PM |
| 01:31.31 | tgalal_ | or maybe 2 |
| 01:32.45 | beford | 83.33% are redy to suporting me |
| 01:33.14 | beford | 6 users in poll and 83% of the community is with him :P fuck logic! |
| 01:34.20 | Sazpaimon | TMO seriously needs better moderation |
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| 03:13.12 | GeneralAntilles | Sazpaimon, hands-off moderation works better when the population of a forum isn't overwhelmed by morons. :\ |
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| 03:32.45 | Sazpaimon | GeneralAntilles, hands off moderation causes forums to become overwhelmed by morons |
| 03:33.12 | GeneralAntilles | I don't know that the causality follows quite like that |
| 03:33.18 | GeneralAntilles | It worked fine for many years |
| 03:33.33 | GeneralAntilles | It's the popularity of the platform that eventually caused the inundation |
| 03:34.05 | GeneralAntilles | that and the failure to implement stricter policies at the time resulted in an atmosphere of acceptance of certain anti-social behaviors |
| 03:34.10 | Sazpaimon | I think its the fact that the N900 has finally made its way into the hands of "everyone else" |
| 03:34.38 | GeneralAntilles | That, and many of the core people have stopped caring or moved on. |
| 03:34.54 | GeneralAntilles | It's tough to maintain a lot of high-quality interaction around what's effectively a dead platform. |
| 03:35.02 | Sazpaimon | that usually goes hand in hand with the former |
| 03:35.14 | Sazpaimon | i noticed the same thing happen with S60 |
| 03:35.25 | GeneralAntilles | We survived the popularity explosions of the N800 and N810 |
| 03:35.44 | Sazpaimon | when everyone moved on to S60v3 and even Symbian^3, there were still tons of people that still wanted people to support S60v2 |
| 03:35.53 | Sazpaimon | all of them from far eastern europe and asia |
| 03:36.14 | Sazpaimon | maybe it takes a lot of them that long to get a smartphone? I can't say |
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| 04:07.30 | TMavica | @tgalal ping |
| 04:07.47 | TMavica | i found what cause of the problem |
| 04:07.53 | TMavica | check tmo |
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| 05:53.51 | itsnotabigtruck | well, if it's that great, better not say it here, lol |
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| 08:12.42 | tradej | hey, guys. can you tell me please where I can find the built-in twitter app's source/qml/anything? the reason i'm asking is that retweets don't work for me due to an error in the JSON query and I think it's pretty trivial to fix. thank you |
| 08:14.04 | petteri | on the device is best guess, it is not probably open source |
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| 08:14.42 | petteri | qneptunea is nice twitter client. I use it instead of the default one |
| 08:15.13 | Aard | tradej: the app is closed source, the qml files are included as resource in the binary -> you can't change anything |
| 08:15.39 | tradej | Aard: damn |
| 08:15.53 | tradej | thanks tho |
| 08:17.20 | tradej | petteri: thanks too, but i don't like qneptunea that much. i'm using it now tho |
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| 08:18.32 | petteri | first one to say that :) |
| 08:18.59 | petteri | you could try to copy the defualt twitter client to some other place, change the qml files and start it from the commandline |
| 08:19.21 | tradej | petteri: i could, but the files are binary |
| 08:19.38 | tradej | if i had found the qml files, i wouldn't ask in the first place :) |
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| 08:19.46 | petteri | ah, ok. I tought the bug was in the qml files |
| 08:19.59 | tradej | not quite. i've got to say i hate closed source |
| 08:23.00 | petteri | you could send patches to qneptunea then to make it better :) |
| 08:23.43 | tradej | i'm probably going to do that, but since i want qneptunea to be completely unlike what it's now, i might just as well fork it |
| 08:23.52 | tradej | i'll see what i'll do |
| 08:24.06 | tradej | btw, does qneptunea show up in your 'share' menu, petteri? |
| 08:25.04 | petteri | sadly no |
| 08:25.15 | tradej | so it's not just me |
| 08:26.42 | tradej | a-ha, qneptunea is built on a backend called twitter4qml |
| 08:27.03 | tradej | so i'll probably start my own app that looks much unlike qneptunea |
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| 09:21.23 | Sazpaimon_ | so my N9 isn't creating /dev/media0 thus the camera doesnt seem to work |
| 09:21.25 | Sazpaimon_ | any idea why |
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| 09:50.42 | beford | <beford> hmm cammera is not responding |
| 09:51.12 | beford | I did not bother to check though Sazpaimon_ .. just finished reflashing :P |
| 09:51.20 | beford | its working again |
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| 11:27.28 | aquarius | can I exclude certain folders from the built-in N9 music player? |
| 11:31.42 | mgedmin | aquarius, AFAIK you need to configure tracker to not index skip some folders; there's a hidden config file somewhere in /home/user -- I've never played with it actually... |
| 11:32.02 | mgedmin | s/skip// |
| 11:32.26 | phako | /home/user/.config/tracker/tracker-miner-fs.cfg |
| 11:32.40 | aquarius | mgedmin, ah, that sounds fiddly (and I don't really want tracker to ignore the folder entirely; I just want the music player to ignore it,and other apps to still use it). Ah well; I guess I'll live with audiobooks showing up in the player, then : |
| 11:32.41 | aquarius | :) |
| 11:32.52 | mgedmin | yeah, it's annoying |
| 11:33.29 | cityLights | how can I edit the sqlite that holds the email date? no sqlite package is available? |
| 11:33.59 | cityLights | s/date/data/ |
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| 12:19.29 | Morpog | hi guys, anybody know how to reindex images? my gallery only show videos...... |
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| 12:46.06 | mankeli | hey |
| 12:46.38 | mankeli | does someone happen to know an answer to this: how to disable the screen saver in harmattan? |
| 12:46.47 | mankeli | when not using qt |
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| 13:30.11 | MohammadAG | is there a way when using Qt? |
| 13:33.40 | petteri | at least when using qml |
| 13:39.20 | MohammadAG | which is? |
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| 13:52.18 | arcean | MohammadAG: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility/qsystemscreensaver.html |
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| 13:57.09 | MohammadAG | let's see |
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| 13:59.26 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: Bedside does it |
| 13:59.51 | MohammadAG | mankeli, same way as Maemo 5 |
| 13:59.58 | MohammadAG | calling an mce DBus method every 30s |
| 14:00.27 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, correct ^? |
| 14:00.44 | MohammadAG | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply |
| 14:00.44 | MohammadAG | --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request |
| 14:00.44 | MohammadAG | com.nokia.mce.req_display_blanking_pause |
| 14:00.49 | MohammadAG | damn IRC |
| 14:01.03 | MohammadAG | every 30s dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.req_display_blanking_pause |
| 14:01.14 | MohammadAG | I'd guess it needs an aegis token |
| 14:01.18 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: There's an API for it |
| 14:01.23 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: It needs an Aegis token |
| 14:01.35 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, read above, he isn't using Qt |
| 14:01.40 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: And it also has a bug whereby it breaks the lock code (fixed in Qt, but may not be shipped) |
| 14:02.01 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: Indeed. |
| 14:02.16 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, you good with color keys and Qt painting? |
| 14:02.18 | MohammadAG | manual painting |
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| 14:04.59 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: NAFAIK |
| 14:05.24 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: mankeli: To be aware of: https://gitorious.org/jaffas-playground/bedside/blobs/master/activemonitor.h#line61 |
| 14:05.34 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, know anyone who is? besides javispedro, he seems to be away nowadays |
| 14:07.23 | RST38h | Mohammad: What is your question? |
| 14:07.45 | MohammadAG | RST38h, I need to overlay some controls over a video |
| 14:08.17 | MohammadAG | the video is being painted by mafw using a color key |
| 14:08.33 | MohammadAG | the same colorkey is being painted by an MStylableWidget |
| 14:09.35 | RST38h | paint in any color other than the color key |
| 14:09.51 | RST38h | Because the color key may well be processed at the hardware level |
| 14:11.06 | MohammadAG | but the controls need to be transparent |
| 14:11.25 | MohammadAG | this should produce something close to harmattan's stock player |
| 14:12.42 | RST38h | aha |
| 14:12.57 | RST38h | ok, use the color key for controls background |
| 14:13.41 | MohammadAG | that'd mean it's 100% transparent |
| 14:13.44 | MohammadAG | not see-through |
| 14:15.22 | RST38h | Use other colors for control edges, use color key for the background. |
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| 14:19.06 | deram | semi-see-through is overrated. Microsoft moved away from glass like effects and other additional glare, just in news |
| 14:20.41 | RST38h | this has nothing to do with video playback controls |
| 14:23.29 | MohammadAG | I need to use drawBackground, drawForeground, and drawContents |
| 14:23.31 | MohammadAG | but I can't figure out how |
| 14:23.44 | MohammadAG | sadly, 3 applications do this, non seem to be open |
| 14:25.25 | RST38h | a moment |
| 14:26.15 | MohammadAG | and MTF is as documented as... maemo in general |
| 14:26.44 | RST38h | well they are just copying qgraphicsview |
| 14:26.50 | RST38h | here is how it works there: |
| 14:27.05 | RST38h | the drawing occurs in the drawBackground->drawContents->drawForeground order |
| 14:27.33 | RST38h | If I understand correctly your video view has no foreground and no contents other than your playback UI |
| 14:28.12 | RST38h | Also, I am assuming that the video itself is displayed by the hardware, in a different plane, using color key from your plane |
| 14:28.38 | RST38h | Hence, all you need to do is clear whole view to color key in drawBackground() |
| 14:28.58 | RST38h | Then draw controls, this can be done in either of the functions really, even in drawBackground() itself |
| 14:29.25 | RST38h | Do not update the view on every video frame, as your plane is not going to change at all |
| 14:30.56 | MohammadAG | so drawBackground -> fill rect with colorkey, then draw controls? |
| 14:32.54 | RST38h | Mohammad: guess so |
| 14:33.16 | MohammadAG | so I need to figure out how to draw controls manually :p |
| 14:34.12 | RST38h | why is it a problem? |
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| 14:52.13 | MohammadAG | RST38h, I don't know how, given the controls transition |
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| 16:09.37 | b0unc3 | guys, there is any way to call an upstart script from an application? |
| 16:10.11 | djszapi | ofc |
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| 16:26.27 | b0unc3 | djszapi: how? :) |
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| 16:32.54 | mankeli | MohammadAG: oh, i see. i wonder why it's not a x atom or something. :) |
| 16:32.56 | mankeli | thanks! |
| 16:35.30 | MohammadAG | mankeli: Conceptually you're right, it'd even work better, but since mce does the blanking and not the compositor it might cost more resources |
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| 16:54.18 | djszapi | b0unc3: why not run as root ? |
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| 18:32.58 | Sazpaimon | so my N9 isn't creating /dev/media0 thus the camera doesnt seem to work |
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| 18:33.06 | Sazpaimon | is this a common thing? |
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| 19:46.54 | Stecchino | Does anyone know if platform security could be interfering with QCA2 functionality? |
| 19:47.36 | Stecchino | I'm using libqoauth to sign messages using HMAC-SHA1 from libgca2-plugin-ossl. It's only working for developer and root users, not regular user |
| 19:47.46 | Stecchino | quite a problem for making the app publishable |
| 19:49.50 | mankeli | maybe it needs proper credentials |
| 19:50.54 | mankeli | try running aegis-manifest in scratchbox |
| 19:51.40 | Stecchino | mankeli: Not one of the API's that need credentials according to |
| 19:51.40 | Stecchino | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Harmattan_security_Security_guide_Harmattan_APIs_that_require_credentials.html?tab=3&q=security&sp=all |
| 19:51.46 | Stecchino | But I guess that can be wrong |
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| 19:52.28 | Stecchino | Here is the code that is failing: https://gitorious.org/~Stecchino/conboy2/stecchinos-conboy2/commit/d78974ce19b1a79d619f6900e5c4202b2a2c6dfc |
| 19:54.14 | Stecchino | mankeli: only have a madde env set up right now. guess it can run from there to right? |
| 19:54.27 | mankeli | i guess so |
| 19:54.42 | mankeli | altho qtcreator probably runs it automatically |
| 19:54.48 | Stecchino | I did have to add libqoauth and didn't yet properly package it. |
| 19:55.14 | Stecchino | would expect that it wouldn't work under developer either if that was it |
| 19:55.56 | Stecchino | madde runtime does not seem to have aegis-manifest |
| 19:57.19 | mankeli | then i don't know :) |
| 19:57.28 | mankeli | sounds like a credentials problem anyway |
| 19:58.11 | Stecchino | yeah, most likely. |
| 19:58.39 | Stecchino | looks like I do have a scratchbox install around from way back when |
| 19:59.21 | djszapi | why does it sound like a credential problem ? |
| 19:59.31 | djszapi | have you checked syslog for verifying that guess ? |
| 20:00.48 | Stecchino | djszapi: I'll do that |
| 20:01.57 | djszapi | However, unfortunately I have not dealt with Harmattan recently even if I do not expect too much security changes. |
| 20:05.55 | Stecchino | djszapi: nothing showing in /var/log/syslog when then QCA2 call fails |
| 20:06.23 | djszapi | then it is most likely not a permission issue. |
| 20:06.46 | Stecchino | then I'm really stomped. |
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| 20:41.43 | itsnotabigtruck | Stecchino: which call is failing |
| 20:41.47 | itsnotabigtruck | that's the important part |
| 20:41.50 | itsnotabigtruck | and how is it failing |
| 20:42.00 | itsnotabigtruck | does qca provide error messages or codes of any sort |
| 20:42.12 | itsnotabigtruck | a lot of qt doesn't, which is kind of a problem |
| 20:43.16 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: yes, there is an error reported which points to an internal crypto problem |
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| 20:43.55 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: in https://gitorious.org/~Stecchino/conboy2/stecchinos-conboy2/commit/d78974ce19b1a79d619f6900e5c4202b2a2c6dfc any call using HMAC-SHA1 crypto method fails |
| 20:44.15 | Stecchino | PLAINTEXT didn't, but then the service does not work |
| 20:44.51 | Stecchino | HMAC_SHA1 is implemented in qca2-plugin-ossl |
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| 20:47.29 | itsnotabigtruck | Stecchino: btw what's the application? the accounts system has some built-in oauth2 stuff |
| 20:47.33 | itsnotabigtruck | if at all possible, you should use that |
| 20:47.44 | itsnotabigtruck | then it can work exactly like a native app, like twitter |
| 20:47.49 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: I'm experimenting with some credentials in a custom manifest now |
| 20:47.57 | itsnotabigtruck | which credentials |
| 20:48.08 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: I'm adding note sycnhronization to conboy2 (already in the ovi store) |
| 20:48.16 | itsnotabigtruck | first you should *not* add a manifest and isolate the credentials required |
| 20:48.40 | itsnotabigtruck | you can do that with develsh -c 'aegis-exec -c -a cred1 -a cred2 -a cred3 ./program' |
| 20:48.42 | itsnotabigtruck | that kind of thing |
| 20:48.49 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: apscli pointed me to GID::crypto |
| 20:48.53 | itsnotabigtruck | with develsh you can only add the ovi credentials |
| 20:49.01 | itsnotabigtruck | with opensh you can add any credentials |
| 20:49.06 | itsnotabigtruck | (you need INCEPTION for that) |
| 20:49.33 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: problem is that the crypto function only fails for user. Not developer nor root |
| 20:49.54 | Stecchino | so develsh -c 'aegis-exec -c -a cred1 -a cred2 -a cred3 ./program' will always work |
| 20:50.22 | itsnotabigtruck | then test it before you start screwing with the manifest and adding more variables |
| 20:50.30 | itsnotabigtruck | you can run your program under any combination of user and credentials |
| 20:50.40 | itsnotabigtruck | but i bet what you're actually doing is running under user with no credentials |
| 20:50.52 | itsnotabigtruck | and running under developer and root with ovi/dev credentials |
| 20:50.59 | itsnotabigtruck | you can see what credentials you have with accli -I |
| 20:51.40 | itsnotabigtruck | but while i'm curious about what's wrong, you should really switch to the accounts system and the built-in oauth |
| 20:52.51 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: that would not solve it. I still need to sign each REST API request with a HMAC-SHA1 which accounts does not implement |
| 20:53.08 | Stecchino | asked on #accounts-sso, so have it from the source. |
| 20:53.17 | Stecchino | well, and actually read the source code as well |
| 20:53.37 | Stecchino | there is signature functionality in there but it's not exposed |
| 20:55.26 | itsnotabigtruck | there's a channel for that? anyway, hmm |
| 20:55.35 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: what is the proper way to run as user? su - user fails with suid, so I guess there is harmattan way |
| 20:55.43 | itsnotabigtruck | use devel-su instead of su |
| 20:55.46 | itsnotabigtruck | same syntax |
| 20:55.48 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: only Mardy and an intel guy on there |
| 20:56.10 | Stecchino | hmm, password? |
| 20:56.14 | itsnotabigtruck | well, you could retrieve the oauth token data from signon, and then do the hmac stuff yourself, rather than using qoauth |
| 20:56.17 | Stecchino | why does user even have one |
| 20:56.24 | itsnotabigtruck | it doesn't |
| 20:56.29 | itsnotabigtruck | you need to become root, then become user |
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| 20:58.43 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: is there a way to list all credentials possible? |
| 21:00.33 | itsnotabigtruck | best way is to run opensh and do accli -I |
| 21:03.12 | mankeli | btw, what is the mechanism that determines if package is possible to remove from launcher? |
| 21:03.26 | itsnotabigtruck | and Stecchino: so yeah, if you use signon-oauth2 |
| 21:03.33 | itsnotabigtruck | what you can do is call process with mechanism HMAC-SHA1 |
| 21:03.40 | itsnotabigtruck | and it'll give you a OAuth1PluginTokenData |
| 21:03.49 | mankeli | there doesn't seem to be clear answer to that in the harmattan docs |
| 21:03.50 | itsnotabigtruck | which contains an access token and token secret |
| 21:04.41 | itsnotabigtruck | and it looks like the HMAC key is produced from the token secret and consumer secret |
| 21:04.59 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: yup, but then every message still needs to be signed with a nonce and timestamp. I could re-implement the functions in qoauth, but that is just a waist of valuable time and might not work either |
| 21:05.13 | itsnotabigtruck | so it would go call into signon -> retrieve token secret -> do oauth1 signature logic |
| 21:05.24 | itsnotabigtruck | well, you could continue using qoauth as well as signon-oauth2 |
| 21:05.31 | Stecchino | anyway, I think resources might have nothing to do with it. Could it be a kernel dev node is not readable by user? |
| 21:05.36 | itsnotabigtruck | mind you, the aegis problem you have now still needs to be solved then |
| 21:05.46 | itsnotabigtruck | but having accounts integration would make your app a lot more slick |
| 21:05.55 | Stecchino | it would, it on my todo |
| 21:05.58 | itsnotabigtruck | most apps don't have that right now because the devs cba to do it |
| 21:06.03 | itsnotabigtruck | those apps aren't slick :p |
| 21:07.44 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: I found a way to run from QtCreator as user now. So I can trace the error better |
| 21:09.21 | itsnotabigtruck | btw you should put your app in appsformeego, also |
| 21:09.38 | itsnotabigtruck | it's kind of tricky to do with qt creator, which is a piece of crap that should not be used :p |
| 21:09.52 | itsnotabigtruck | but since you're using it already, there is a way to adapt the output into something for afm |
| 21:10.58 | itsnotabigtruck | and why don't you strace your app and watch for EPERM and EACCES errors |
| 21:11.37 | itsnotabigtruck | what is the server that's being authenticated to |
| 21:12.09 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: a local snowy install |
| 21:12.54 | itsnotabigtruck | so is the user expected to type in all the oauth parameters for every server they're going to use? |
| 21:13.09 | Stecchino | no, just the url of the server |
| 21:13.11 | itsnotabigtruck | ie. the 3 endpoints, consumer id and consumer secret |
| 21:13.17 | itsnotabigtruck | or is it 4 endpoints |
| 21:13.39 | Stecchino | https://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/Synchronization/REST/1.0 |
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| 21:15.00 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: it will be compatible with Ubuntu 1 sync as well, for which I'll probably create a pre-configured setup |
| 21:15.17 | Stecchino | and using accounts and SSO obviously |
| 21:15.53 | itsnotabigtruck | those docs are pretty spartan, esp about the authentication stuff |
| 21:16.08 | itsnotabigtruck | looks like most of the oauth parameters come from the server |
| 21:16.21 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: they actually all do |
| 21:16.33 | itsnotabigtruck | what's used for the consumer secret |
| 21:16.35 | Stecchino | except for the host there is nothing the user needs to enter |
| 21:16.56 | Stecchino | itsnotabigtruck: snowy is by convention configured to not need a customer secret |
| 21:17.03 | Stecchino | it might be different for U1 |
| 21:17.12 | itsnotabigtruck | well, the oauth protocol requires a consumer secret |
| 21:17.17 | itsnotabigtruck | it could be a fixed string though |
| 21:17.36 | Stecchino | m_qoauth->setConsumerKey("anyone"); |
| 21:17.36 | Stecchino | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.41 | itsnotabigtruck | so it's anyone |
| 21:17.43 | itsnotabigtruck | heh |
| 21:17.50 | Stecchino | well, snowy does not care in any case |
| 21:18.10 | Stecchino | happily hands out request tokens |
| 21:18.31 | itsnotabigtruck | well, anyway, i'd suggest trying out signon-oauth2 + QOAuth or something like that sooner rather than later |
| 21:18.32 | Stecchino | it's up to the user to trust their apps, as it should be |
| 21:18.42 | itsnotabigtruck | you could use it without the accounts system, and then adapt that in later more easily |
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| 21:18.56 | itsnotabigtruck | writing the account plugin itself could be a bit tricky since the stock one definitely isn't going to work |
| 21:19.30 | Stecchino | It's been a while but i might still remember what they look like from >1 year ago |
| 21:19.34 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, i'm not advocating the consumer secret system, i was just worried it would be a problem |
| 21:19.44 | Stecchino | fixed a few bugs around accounts-ui |
| 21:19.46 | itsnotabigtruck | it's a good thing it's not because that would sort of torpedo the whole key-in-any-server thing |
| 21:22.05 | itsnotabigtruck | i think for the account plugin, it would basically come down to a) displaying a server box, b) contacting the server and grabbing the info, c) passing the info on to signon-oauth2, which pops up a web box and acquires the token, d) determining the user's username and storing that with the signon/accounts data |
| 21:23.36 | itsnotabigtruck | but for phase 1, that functionality could be put into the app to save the bother of writing the plugin |
| 21:26.11 | itsnotabigtruck | stecchino: but anyway, did you make any headway with the aegis-exec/devel-su/develsh testing |
| 21:26.27 | Stecchino | no, but strace is proving to be useful |
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| 22:18.59 | beford | hi, shouldn't Mail client use google talk's mail from my contacts as a mail address? |
| 22:25.59 | ZogG_laptop | beford: depends |
| 22:26.33 | beford | hey ZogG_laptop, not sure, I mean, trying to compose a mail from the built in client, and a click on the + sign, it says no contacts |
| 22:27.34 | beford | shouldn't it at *least* show the ones from Talk on the same account? |
| 22:28.17 | ZogG_laptop | beford: try entering name, doesn't it complete it? |
| 22:28.34 | beford | nop |
| 22:28.53 | ZogG_laptop | i'm not lemme check |
| 22:30.28 | beford | I've justa added facebook and two contacts appear, I suppose they share their email address from FB |
| 22:31.01 | beford | I guess the problem is that Gtalk contacts do not have a "mail" field |
| 22:31.17 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i have few contact i dunno how they were added, but i think as it has types mail and jabber it adds foobar@gmail.com as jabber info and that's why do not add as email |
| 22:31.28 | ZogG_laptop | beford: go to that contact and check info |
| 22:31.37 | beford | yes, that seems to be the problem |
| 22:31.50 | beford | but I do not want to add it manually to each of my contacts :P |
| 22:33.53 | ZogG_laptop | beford: than app/script should be used, as well as bug report |
| 22:35.28 | beford | yea :/ |
| 22:36.14 | beford | well maybe I am "holding" it wrong, going to ask on TMO just in case |
| 22:40.05 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i checked it doesn't work |
| 22:40.39 | ZogG_laptop | checked on someone i have in google talks but do not have on mail as well |
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