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| 00:16.42 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: does it mean something about image transfer is comming? |
| 00:16.55 | Arie | ZogG_laptop: no |
| 00:17.07 | ZogG_laptop | than for what? |
| 00:17.42 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: ? |
| 00:18.11 | Arie | ZogG_laptop: contact images |
| 00:18.15 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: for displaying contacts pictures rounded :) |
| 00:20.34 | ZogG_laptop | than last solution suites |
| 00:20.40 | ZogG_laptop | i'm gonna go to sleep |
| 00:20.42 | ZogG_laptop | night |
| 00:20.48 | Arie | night |
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| 00:27.04 | tgalal | night |
| 00:46.16 | itsnotabigtruck | tgalal: keep in mind that the squircle isn't used on the N9 except for icons |
| 00:46.22 | itsnotabigtruck | other things are generally rounded rectangles |
| 00:46.27 | itsnotabigtruck | the difference is that a squircle has curved sides |
| 00:46.43 | itsnotabigtruck | can't help you with how to actually put it into action though |
| 00:46.59 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm guessing you're trying to emulate the appearance of the native MMS display |
| 00:48.01 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: I'm just trying to display contacts images as squircles |
| 00:48.28 | itsnotabigtruck | tgalal: except they probably shouldn't be squircles, they should be rounded rectangles |
| 00:48.49 | itsnotabigtruck | especially since the images aren't necessarily square |
| 00:48.56 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: I'll try that |
| 00:49.00 | itsnotabigtruck | and a stretched squircle would be kind of weird |
| 00:49.19 | itsnotabigtruck | remember that the squircle is a very specific geometric shape (it's what harmattan icons are) |
| 00:52.00 | itsnotabigtruck | http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/7037 |
| 00:52.32 | itsnotabigtruck | it appears not to be very easy |
| 00:52.37 | itsnotabigtruck | i wonder what the native gui uses |
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| 03:40.47 | Arie | teleshoes: hi |
| 03:40.55 | Arie | bedf0rd: hi |
| 03:40.58 | teleshoes | hello |
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| 03:41.25 | Arie | teleshoes: i figured out this morning who you are on tmo, lol |
| 03:41.42 | teleshoes | heh |
| 03:42.00 | teleshoes | i probably should have made those the same |
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| 03:42.22 | Arie | teleshoes: it would have helped, lol |
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| 05:51.30 | djszapi | bef0rd: hola |
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| 05:56.41 | djszapi | what is the best way of calling a C++ method from QML which expects a string list ? Shall I use a "property variant" type in QML for that purpose to collect the strings into a list, or what is the recommended way ? |
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| 07:37.30 | Morpog | man those people @tmo are dumb sometimes......... |
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| 07:44.01 | lpapp|n9 | interesting that webchat works, but irc-chatter |
| 07:50.07 | Morpog | irc-chatter works here |
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| 07:52.18 | lpapp|n9 | morprog cannot with sasl |
| 07:52.47 | lpapp|n9 | Morpog* |
| 07:57.52 | Morpog | ? im connected via irc-chatter. No need for sasl. |
| 08:00.13 | djszapi | Morpog: of course, there is a need in a certain range. |
| 08:00.17 | djszapi | that is how freenode works. |
| 08:01.43 | Morpog | well who needs an registered user ;-) |
| 08:02.12 | djszapi | Morpog: ? sorry ? |
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| 08:03.47 | djszapi | Morpog: asdfasdfdas nick cannot login without sasl in my network |
| 08:05.06 | Morpog | oh so they force sasl on some servers? |
| 08:05.20 | djszapi | yep |
| 08:05.38 | djszapi | which they consider "spammy". |
| 08:05.47 | djszapi | like my mobile internet provider :-D |
| 08:06.15 | Morpog | ah thats bad luck |
| 08:07.28 | djszapi | yeah, and the irc-chatter project is kinda abandoned |
| 08:07.45 | djszapi | I reported like 20+ issues, but none has been fixed, just "ack"'d. |
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| 08:08.20 | djszapi | Morpog: what is your native language ? |
| 08:09.01 | Morpog | well harmattan aint really future proof. I hope meltemi is compatible, which wouod help alot. |
| 08:09.06 | Morpog | would |
| 08:09.21 | Morpog | german |
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| 08:30.56 | djszapi | anybody not using English system language on harmattan ? |
| 08:33.36 | djszapi | could such a person report me the line on the console after installing and running my application ? http://minus.com/mXxCKaN4R/ This line: KLOCALE_LANGUAGE: "XXX" |
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| 08:39.42 | djszapi | KLOCALE_LANGUAGE: "hu" in here. |
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| 09:23.28 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: i saw in twitter you started wazzshit app =P |
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| 09:24.04 | khertan | Morning ! |
| 09:24.05 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: yeah I like that name lol |
| 09:24.30 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: next time just do not saying you have working app until you release, people wouldn't live you alone, they just "I WANT IT SOOOOOO BAD" |
| 09:24.48 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: morning pal |
| 09:25.14 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: true |
| 09:25.22 | tgalal | lesson learned |
| 09:26.21 | ZogG_laptop | did you succeed with round corners? |
| 09:26.47 | tgalal | haven't tried it yet, queued it :) |
| 09:27.08 | ZogG_laptop | nice |
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| 09:34.08 | khertan | héhé ... this is the problem with users, you can't release not yet finish apps. |
| 09:34.16 | khertan | they want finished apps. |
| 09:34.52 | khertan | far away from the philosophy: Release Early, Release Often |
| 09:35.18 | khertan | (this is also true with all that crappy "Store" |
| 09:35.19 | khertan | ) |
| 09:36.36 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: true and wrong |
| 09:36.49 | ZogG_laptop | they want to have an app even if it's buggy |
| 09:37.04 | ZogG_laptop | but when it's released they would tell you how crappy it is coz it's buggy |
| 09:37.13 | ZogG_laptop | so one way or another you would be blamed |
| 09:37.23 | khertan | no no ... they don't want buggy apps ... they whine and say apps crappy, even if you fix bugs |
| 09:37.37 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: you didn't get me |
| 09:37.41 | khertan | yeah :) |
| 09:37.46 | khertan | i understand after |
| 09:37.51 | khertan | hot reacting is bad :) |
| 09:37.53 | ZogG_laptop | if there is app that is not relesed yet but announced |
| 09:38.01 | ZogG_laptop | even not app but new PR |
| 09:38.16 | ZogG_laptop | everyone wants to install it as much early as possible |
| 09:38.26 | khertan | now i understand a bit more the secret philosophy of some company |
| 09:38.39 | ZogG_laptop | but than they just tell you how crappy it is after release =) |
| 09:39.26 | khertan | yeah, as it didn't implement the return value of the chair-keyboard interface |
| 09:39.35 | ZogG_laptop | the most annoying post on TMO was when someone told fMMS is a crap app. i wanted to punch that guy |
| 09:39.35 | khertan | of course users will whine |
| 09:40.30 | ZogG_laptop | after we had no mms on maemo and frals hard work, someone instead of saying how maybe to improve just told that app is crap. PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE |
| 09:40.33 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, haha, today, i ve try to see what's news on maemo by going to tmo |
| 09:41.05 | khertan | i ve seen this post : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1206401#post1206401 and close the browser |
| 09:41.56 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: most of posts are "Cmon guys we are cool community, do the app for me" instead of app put any closesourced app or one with no API (instagram, google+, iphone/android games) |
| 09:42.40 | khertan | sooooooo trruuuuueeeee |
| 09:43.27 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82140 |
| 09:43.58 | ZogG_laptop | check here, i actually tried to explaine it to one guy but he answered the same thing in different words to me everytime, i just gave up |
| 09:45.20 | ZogG_laptop | but i still think open source rules — http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEwMjY |
| 09:46.53 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: can you pack khteditor as single package and upload to apps4meego? i understand it's more advance over SimpleText |
| 09:47.39 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, it s didn't work anymore due ... in fact i don't know why using QTextEdit make QMLEngine segfault |
| 09:47.49 | khertan | look like pr1.2 break the things |
| 09:48.09 | khertan | and it s segfault (yeah ... python / pyside code ...) |
| 09:48.25 | ZogG_laptop | =\ |
| 09:48.39 | khertan | Using QGraphicProxyWidget seems to make segfault qml engine in some circunstance |
| 09:48.51 | khertan | that i can't determine without leaving my hair |
| 09:48.52 | khertan | :) |
| 09:49.08 | khertan | ZogG, TxtPad isn't bad, still some bugs |
| 09:49.27 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: why don't you go for plain Qt, or it's impossible with harmattan |
| 09:49.33 | khertan | (sometime overwrite a file with an other due to problem in QML Qt component menu) |
| 09:49.42 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, plain qt is unusable on harmattan |
| 09:49.49 | ZogG_laptop | why so |
| 09:49.52 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, none theme, none vkb |
| 09:50.03 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG uses it in his facebook app as i understand |
| 09:50.09 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, slow as hell |
| 09:50.09 | MohammadAG | MTF |
| 09:50.15 | MohammadAG | no |
| 09:50.22 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG good morning |
| 09:50.24 | MohammadAG | Fast as fuck ;) |
| 09:50.28 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, yeah mtf not plain qt ... mtf didn't have TextEdit component :) |
| 09:50.30 | MohammadAG | Morning :) |
| 09:50.43 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: than create one =P |
| 09:50.48 | MohammadAG | There's MTextEdit... |
| 09:50.49 | khertan | Morpog, MohammadAG |
| 09:50.56 | khertan | MohammadAG, did you try it ? |
| 09:51.02 | MohammadAG | Bonjour khertan |
| 09:51.23 | ZogG_laptop | what MTF stands for btw |
| 09:51.25 | MohammadAG | khertan: My status update sheet uses an MTextEdit for input |
| 09:51.33 | MohammadAG | ~mtf |
| 09:51.33 | infobot | A Microsoft Tape Format reader. URL: ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/backup/mtf-0.1.src.tgz |
| 09:51.50 | MohammadAG | ... |
| 09:51.54 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG The Fraud ? =) |
| 09:52.17 | ZogG_laptop | nono, its MohammadAG The First |
| 09:52.20 | MohammadAG | ~mtf is also MeeGoTouchFramework, a deprecated framework that's miles faster than QML |
| 09:52.20 | infobot | okay, MohammadAG |
| 09:52.20 | ZogG_laptop | =P |
| 09:52.30 | khertan | the other reason to not use MTF is there is no pyside binding for it |
| 09:52.31 | khertan | :) |
| 09:52.39 | MohammadAG | C++ |
| 09:53.05 | khertan | and that my previous test show that there was too many glitches to be use with vkb |
| 09:53.22 | khertan | but this was with beta firmware |
| 09:53.30 | ZogG_laptop | so it doesn't use qml at all? i know that most native apps from Nokia are MTF |
| 09:53.32 | khertan | C++ code don't compile on device |
| 09:53.49 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, no mtf didn't use qml |
| 09:53.54 | MohammadAG | Install gcc |
| 09:54.02 | ZogG_laptop | you compile on device? |
| 09:54.07 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, it s a sort of fork of QtWidget framework |
| 09:54.11 | MohammadAG | Who? Me? |
| 09:54.13 | ZogG_laptop | can't you compile on scratchbox or something? |
| 09:54.27 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, yeah i can, but i code in the train or metro :) |
| 09:54.27 | MohammadAG | khertan: No, QGraphicsWidget :p |
| 09:54.29 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG even you |
| 09:54.38 | khertan | MohammadAG, indeed |
| 09:54.41 | MohammadAG | I compile on my i5 laptop |
| 09:54.46 | MohammadAG | I hate waiting |
| 09:54.53 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: don't tell me you code on device |
| 09:55.08 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, so why did i write code editor ? |
| 09:55.23 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, all my maemo/meego apps are coded on device |
| 09:55.24 | khertan | :) |
| 09:55.28 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG btw didn't wait till you go to Egypt to buy me cheap laptop and bought here expensive shit =) |
| 09:56.00 | Morpog | is there a way in irc-chatter to disable autoscroll? |
| 09:56.06 | khertan | my n950 is faster than my laptop : ARM 1Ghz vs ARM 400Mhz |
| 09:56.07 | khertan | :) |
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| 09:56.32 | ZogG_laptop | Morpog: don't think so, but you can request it from Venemo or other devs |
| 09:56.46 | MohammadAG | Your laptop has a faster framework |
| 09:56.59 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: than you need to make app that also integrated with OBS for meego =P |
| 09:57.21 | Morpog | kinda annoying when reading old stuff and others are chatting :-) |
| 09:57.22 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, why integrated ? obs have an web interface |
| 09:58.12 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: so you code in editor and than it's automagically sends code to obs and than you get link for deb =) .... and BJ |
| 09:59.05 | ZogG_laptop | btw seriously i think github client would be nice, need to check the api |
| 09:59.19 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, no need to get link for deb ... i create binary and source package also on device |
| 09:59.38 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, http://khertan.net/PyPackager |
| 09:59.38 | khertan | :) |
| 09:59.41 | ZogG_laptop | khertan you are crazy, so it's not an example |
| 09:59.45 | khertan | maybe |
| 09:59.58 | khertan | this is also why i need a hw keyboard on a phone |
| 10:00.06 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: you need to release more of your stuff to apps4meego |
| 10:00.24 | khertan | i was doing the same at the old time on my Palm TungstenTX with PalmPascal compiling on the go :) |
| 10:00.44 | ZogG_laptop | i'm not always can write on normal keyboard(i'm hyperactive and dyslex) i don't get how you manage on phone |
| 10:00.54 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, apps4meego sucks didn't like extern dependancies, didn't accept code without gui |
| 10:01.47 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, key are nearest than on a standart computer keyboard ... so less movement to reach the next key after pressing one :) |
| 10:02.00 | ZogG_laptop | i don't remember both nicks but there are guys on maemo with gentoo on N900 and N810 |
| 10:02.01 | khertan | (i also use a compact keyboard on my desktop) |
| 10:02.39 | ZogG_laptop | X-Fade: btw ^ |
| 10:03.28 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, and on desktop i use openbox ... so i'm clearly not the average user |
| 10:03.29 | khertan | :) |
| 10:03.59 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: on desctop i use xfce4 but on laptop i use awesome wm |
| 10:04.09 | ZogG_laptop | thinking to try i3wm though |
| 10:04.17 | ZogG_laptop | or wmfs |
| 10:05.03 | khertan | crunchbang in fact on desktop |
| 10:05.09 | khertan | less thing to configure |
| 10:05.26 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: haha there is unity on arch btw |
| 10:05.40 | ZogG_laptop | just reading tread now about it |
| 10:05.55 | khertan | crunchbang too on laptop, but mainly for terminator terminal use |
| 10:06.05 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: i tried arch, but i find all distros illogical comparing to gentoo/funtoo |
| 10:06.13 | ZogG_laptop | i think gentoo is most logical thing |
| 10:06.47 | ZogG_laptop | and with modern PC's compiling is nothing |
| 10:07.05 | khertan | crunchbang isn't so bad, it s a debian with an already made config for openbox |
| 10:07.06 | khertan | :) |
| 10:07.22 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, yeah but require time to install |
| 10:07.26 | ZogG_laptop | i though it was arch based |
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| 10:07.42 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: actually it's really easy after you understand it |
| 10:07.42 | khertan | it s not ... put the usb key install ... almost nothing to maintain or to fix |
| 10:07.57 | ZogG_laptop | i'm ready to help you to install funtoo if you want or gentoo |
| 10:08.00 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, it s didn't use apt tools ... this is already a problem :) |
| 10:08.17 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: why is ti the problem? |
| 10:08.27 | khertan | because it s not apt :) |
| 10:08.49 | khertan | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.49 | khertan | :à) |
| 10:09.02 | ZogG_laptop | belive me once you understand use flags and portage all apt would look sad =) |
| 10:10.02 | ZogG_laptop | i think it has apt related stuff and you have scratchbox anyway |
| 10:10.42 | ZogG_laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.03 | khertan | :) |
| 10:11.30 | khertan | but why change, as actual config works, and works well ? :) |
| 10:13.37 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: just try on vmware or something |
| 10:14.03 | khertan | yeah, but first problem, no official support arm for arch linux |
| 10:14.04 | khertan | :) |
| 10:15.36 | khertan | will try just because never try it yet :) |
| 10:16.28 | khertan | hate ubuntu, didn't like kde desktop, hate unity, didn't like gnome 3.2 (too much bug for the moment), didn't like gnome2, like tint2 and openbox |
| 10:16.55 | khertan | love fremantle and harmattan |
| 10:16.56 | khertan | :) |
| 10:17.39 | khertan | got some strange packages problem with lmde |
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| 10:23.05 | ZogG_laptop | try xfce4 |
| 10:23.23 | merlin1991 | lmde? |
| 10:23.47 | ZogG_laptop | mint thing i think |
| 10:24.33 | khertan | linux mint debian edition |
| 10:24.33 | khertan | :) |
| 10:24.42 | khertan | don't like xfce4 |
| 10:24.43 | khertan | :) |
| 10:25.06 | merlin1991 | so if you want help, state your problem ;) |
| 10:26.05 | khertan | i've no problem |
| 10:26.15 | khertan | really happy with crunchbang |
| 10:26.16 | khertan | :) |
| 10:26.27 | merlin1991 | khertan got some strange packages problem with lmde |
| 10:26.33 | merlin1991 | == no problem |
| 10:26.35 | merlin1991 | dafuq? |
| 10:27.04 | khertan | merlin1991, yeah ... oh ... was at the first release of lmde |
| 10:27.25 | khertan | i'm just enumerating my perfect distro research for my own use |
| 10:27.30 | khertan | MY OWN USE |
| 10:27.31 | khertan | :) |
| 10:28.04 | ZogG_laptop | use Librete Linux |
| 10:29.25 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 10:29.31 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, wasn't the thing which media reports as "The Annonymous OS" ? |
| 10:32.11 | ZogG_laptop | lol not all version of win8 would support DVD's videos =) |
| 10:32.44 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: yeap |
| 10:35.15 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, if only the preview release have a format option in their install tool |
| 10:35.30 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, it can't format a disk :) |
| 10:35.48 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, so i need to mount an other vm, to format the virtual disk |
| 10:35.48 | khertan | :) |
| 10:36.06 | khertan | ok it s a preview release not a final one |
| 10:36.18 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, anyway all windows users use vlc ;) |
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| 10:37.59 | ZogG_laptop | mplayer > * |
| 10:38.28 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: i'm talking not about preview i'm talking about release |
| 10:42.39 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, archlinux install isn't gui? |
| 10:42.50 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: don't remember |
| 10:43.06 | ZogG_laptop | i installed once, played for few days and got back to gentoo |
| 10:43.40 | khertan | arf |
| 10:44.42 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: but there is arch+openbox outofbox distro i think |
| 10:44.50 | khertan | segfault |
| 10:44.51 | khertan | arf |
| 10:45.08 | khertan | (this can be due to the vm) |
| 10:48.09 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: http://archvortex.blogspot.com/2011/09/simple-archbang-installation-guide.html |
| 10:49.30 | ZogG_laptop | http://millertechnologies.net/ |
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| 12:12.18 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | i got a new device , can you suggest some backup or anything before using/crashing it ? |
| 12:15.15 | ZogG_laptop | rzr-got-n9-yeah: so now n900+n950+n9? |
| 12:15.25 | ZogG_laptop | mazal tov |
| 12:16.44 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | no n900 yet |
| 12:16.47 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | n810 |
| 12:16.51 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | n700 too |
| 12:17.02 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | n770 |
| 12:17.36 | ZogG_laptop | haha |
| 12:18.03 | ZogG_laptop | you need n900 man and n810 wimax edition for collection |
| 12:18.06 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | i wanted a n900 but that usb glitche retain me for buying it |
| 12:18.40 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | i also have a qt green phone and freerunner |
| 12:19.14 | ZogG_laptop | qt grenn phone? |
| 12:19.29 | ZogG_laptop | my n900 died with usb fallen off |
| 12:20.00 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenphone |
| 12:23.03 | ZogG_laptop | first time i heard of it |
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| 13:01.17 | Corsac | hmhm, is there a project to put apps4meego client to ovi store? |
| 13:01.21 | Corsac | or is it against ovi policies? |
| 13:02.10 | ZogG_laptop | Corsac: why would you want it in Ovi? |
| 13:03.02 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | i am usure because IICR ovi reclaim exclusivity of binaries distribution ... |
| 13:03.44 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | well double check |
| 13:05.07 | Corsac | ZogG_laptop: to not have to enable external source installs (in case the app4meego client doesn't need it to run) |
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| 13:10.12 | ZogG_laptop | Corsac: it does need to add source, otherwise how would it install packages |
| 13:10.42 | ZogG_laptop | it's just gui for manager |
| 13:10.47 | Corsac | ZogG_laptop: I know |
| 13:11.04 | Corsac | ZogG_laptop: but I'm a bit unsure about what “allow installation from external sources” really means |
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| 13:12.07 | ZogG_laptop | Corsac: they have same aegis permittions as Ovi btw |
| 13:12.14 | ZogG_laptop | they got them from Nokia |
| 13:12.17 | ZogG_laptop | so no worries |
| 13:12.21 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: you have tried the stuff :D |
| 13:12.25 | djszapi | not* |
| 13:12.34 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: gonna do it now |
| 13:12.42 | ZogG_laptop | wait gonna install it |
| 13:12.45 | Corsac | ZogG_laptop: I assumed that “external sources” basically mean “using dpkg directly” or something like that |
| 13:12.49 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: make sure you have the latest. |
| 13:13.10 | djszapi | http://minus.com/mXxCKaN4R/ |
| 13:14.34 | Corsac | ZogG_laptop: my guess was that, if they have the same aegis permissions as nokia, they should be considered as “certified sources” |
| 13:14.46 | Corsac | and thus don't need the “allow install from uncertified sources” |
| 13:14.49 | Corsac | but I might be wrong |
| 13:15.12 | ZogG_laptop | Corsac: you didn't get it |
| 13:15.38 | Corsac | maybe not |
| 13:15.40 | ZogG_laptop | the client and repos are not known as you add them from internets, but the packages on the repos are certificated |
| 13:16.27 | ZogG_laptop | Corsac: to get certificates you need to install at least from repo, but you can't install from there untill you add it =) |
| 13:16.51 | Corsac | that's exactly why I asked if there were plans to ship the client from ovi |
| 13:17.45 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: installing it |
| 13:18.12 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: o you have hebrew as well, not my native but i live in Israel and my gf's native so i may check |
| 13:18.28 | djszapi | cannot recall sorry :) |
| 13:18.41 | djszapi | at least the menu and settings page strings should work if N9 supports that |
| 13:18.48 | djszapi | as for the lesson words, most likely not. |
| 13:19.21 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: installing |
| 13:19.48 | djszapi | no "he" for the lesson words, sorry. |
| 13:20.05 | djszapi | but perhaps she could help with translating so that it gets available for ot hers ? |
| 13:20.32 | djszapi | not just in kanagram, but also in other applications using the same database, like khangman. |
| 13:21.15 | djszapi | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/libkdeedu/repository/revisions/master/show/data/kvtml -> if she can help with translating the few words in there, that would be awesome. :) |
| 13:21.19 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: bad for you, not me |
| 13:21.34 | djszapi | I can ask later the KDE "he" translation team as well. |
| 13:21.44 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: i'll ask you, but there is better solution, you know waze developer? |
| 13:22.03 | djszapi | nope |
| 13:23.04 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: found bug |
| 13:23.07 | ZogG_laptop | started game |
| 13:23.19 | ZogG_laptop | it was under space cathegory but it has numbers |
| 13:23.29 | ZogG_laptop | switched to numbers it's still numbers |
| 13:23.50 | ZogG_laptop | switched back to space and its space |
| 13:24.16 | ZogG_laptop | probably it's first category by default first run but it shows second one |
| 13:24.23 | djszapi | there is one known bug |
| 13:24.28 | djszapi | it always picks up the first category |
| 13:24.31 | djszapi | after a language change |
| 13:24.33 | djszapi | or after a launch |
| 13:24.44 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: yeah but it shows second one |
| 13:24.54 | ZogG_laptop | title is space but it was numbers |
| 13:25.02 | ZogG_laptop | while space is second and nubers is the first |
| 13:25.23 | djszapi | first category -> second |
| 13:25.31 | djszapi | since the indexing begins from zero |
| 13:25.39 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: and it crashed |
| 13:25.46 | djszapi | cool :) |
| 13:26.01 | djszapi | beford: ping |
| 13:26.14 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: yeah so it shows 1st cathegory at start while it uses words from 0 cathegory |
| 13:26.30 | djszapi | yep |
| 13:26.35 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: i used answers (just checked words) fast one after another and it crashed |
| 13:26.49 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: com'on, where do you rush to... |
| 13:27.13 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: i solved few |
| 13:27.20 | ZogG_laptop | and now checking if words right |
| 13:27.30 | djszapi | you are using russian words, right ? |
| 13:27.31 | ZogG_laptop | if you have specific check you want me to do - tell me i'll check |
| 13:27.35 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: right |
| 13:27.49 | ZogG_laptop | till now one i didnt one is the word, but it's probably me |
| 13:31.33 | djszapi | what do you mean ? |
| 13:33.04 | ZogG_laptop | there is astonaut or how to spell it |
| 13:33.40 | ZogG_laptop | and cosmonaut |
| 13:33.51 | ZogG_laptop | the second is like first one but russian |
| 13:34.00 | ZogG_laptop | but there was metenaut or something there |
| 13:45.10 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: so you want me to check all words? |
| 13:45.19 | ZogG_laptop | oh also other things? |
| 13:45.45 | djszapi | have you also checked the hints in Russian ? |
| 13:45.56 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: no, gonna check now |
| 13:46.20 | djszapi | just my thoroughly, so the viruses can lay down properly :) |
| 13:46.28 | djszapi | use my app thoroughly* |
| 13:46.55 | ZogG_laptop | why does the main menu still in english? |
| 13:47.11 | djszapi | because your system language is English. |
| 13:47.40 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: ok, another one, hint is no good if it's long sentence as you have time in corner and they lay on each other |
| 13:47.49 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: yes |
| 13:47.53 | ZogG_laptop | make hint background not transperent |
| 13:48.43 | djszapi | then you will not see from the timer. |
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| 13:49.05 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: geature request - if i check not last letter i can swap it with other one |
| 13:49.43 | djszapi | that would complicate the workflow :) |
| 13:49.45 | djszapi | I am afraid. |
| 13:50.01 | ZogG_laptop | just thoughts |
| 13:50.25 | ZogG_laptop | as i n russia sometimes you pronounce «a» while you write «o» |
| 13:50.30 | ZogG_laptop | so u can make mistake |
| 13:50.42 | djszapi | you can revert a change |
| 13:50.44 | ZogG_laptop | so instead of whole word delete |
| 13:50.46 | djszapi | by tapping on the last character |
| 13:51.48 | djszapi | swapping is not possible for now. |
| 13:52.04 | ZogG_laptop | ok |
| 13:52.10 | djszapi | the problem is that it might require a lot of work with not so much gain. :/ |
| 13:52.14 | ZogG_laptop | hints are fine |
| 13:52.39 | djszapi | any Mac users here ? |
| 13:53.04 | ZogG_laptop | hints look fine |
| 13:53.33 | djszapi | right |
| 13:54.03 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: and again - why is UI still in english |
| 13:54.58 | djszapi | 16:47 < djszapi> because your system language is English. |
| 13:55.09 | djszapi | or the russian translators did not translate this yet. |
| 13:55.23 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: my system is in english right |
| 13:55.30 | ZogG_laptop | but i think it should be switched |
| 13:55.41 | ZogG_laptop | as well as i would make than two language setting |
| 13:55.53 | ZogG_laptop | one is dictionary or word's bank |
| 13:55.57 | ZogG_laptop | and other as menu |
| 13:56.04 | djszapi | why ? |
| 13:56.05 | ZogG_laptop | if they are separeted |
| 13:56.09 | djszapi | you have a system language for each language |
| 13:56.13 | djszapi | it is not app specific |
| 13:56.26 | djszapi | the in-app language selection is for that, what language you would like to learn |
| 13:56.30 | ZogG_laptop | or you should go for full tranlation over menu and not half with setting and half with current local |
| 13:56.31 | djszapi | with the words. |
| 13:56.41 | djszapi | you confuse two things |
| 13:56.48 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: than call it other thna language |
| 13:56.50 | djszapi | 1) Application translation 2) Lesson translation |
| 13:56.59 | ZogG_laptop | call it Word's Bank Language or something |
| 13:57.20 | djszapi | switch your phone to Russian and you can test the menu and settings page strings |
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| 14:01.27 | tgalal | beford: yow |
| 14:01.52 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: thank you for your testing |
| 14:01.59 | djszapi | hope you did not find this too disgusting :D |
| 14:02.01 | djszapi | beford: ping |
| 14:02.13 | beford | hey djszapi tgalal |
| 14:02.31 | djszapi | beford: need a bit of help |
| 14:02.34 | tgalal | beford: how's last update? |
| 14:03.05 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: waaait, i can test more |
| 14:03.37 | ZogG_laptop | anything else particulary you want me to test? |
| 14:03.46 | beford | djszapi, yes tell me |
| 14:04.14 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: lol, what is coffee doing in computers category? |
| 14:04.38 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: you do not drink coffee as a computer programmer ? |
| 14:04.42 | djszapi | :P |
| 14:05.11 | djszapi | beford: git clone git://gitorious.org/qtplayground/qtserialport.git |
| 14:05.22 | djszapi | cd qtserialport && qmake && make && ./examples/terminal/terminal |
| 14:05.25 | djszapi | does this run ? |
| 14:05.41 | beford | tgalal, it's great! I haven't had any problem yet :) |
| 14:05.47 | beford | djszapi, on OS X ? |
| 14:06.05 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: and there not enuf words in computer |
| 14:06.15 | djszapi | beford: yep, MAc. |
| 14:06.16 | ZogG_laptop | add linux btw |
| 14:06.17 | djszapi | Mac* |
| 14:06.27 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: linux is dead xD |
| 14:06.38 | ZogG_laptop | beford, tgalal good to hear =) |
| 14:06.50 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: viva la Plan9 \0/ |
| 14:06.57 | ZogG_laptop | or BeeOs ? |
| 14:08.09 | tgalal | beford, ZogG_laptop yeah great! :) |
| 14:08.41 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: change almost there ot 99,99% =P |
| 14:10.44 | Morpog | lol people would freak out again |
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| 14:11.03 | djszapi | beford: let me know if the example works fine, or it has troubles. |
| 14:12.05 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: make index page with warning that site was shutdown by USA fedaral antipiracy agentcy and that you was arrested =) |
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| 14:13.22 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: lol, and I should also leave the Donate button anyway |
| 14:15.25 | ZogG_laptop | just change it to Bail From Jail |
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| 14:17.18 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: you can now vote in ovi, with "Cool app, one star" :) |
| 14:23.13 | tgalal | WHOA SOMETHING CHANGED IN WAZAPP SITE |
| 14:24.37 | djszapi | what is wazapp ? |
| 14:24.40 | Morpog | rofl |
| 14:25.39 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: looks the same (dyslexia here) |
| 14:30.38 | Morpog | wonders how long it will take before the first whiner appears on tmo and tells us that this is the proof that its fake ;-) |
| 14:32.14 | tgalal | LOL |
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| 14:33.52 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: t in here is extra |
| 14:34.04 | ZogG_laptop | Hrete |
| 14:34.33 | ZogG_laptop | make it ltsmAo eHre |
| 14:34.43 | tgalal | or almost there :P |
| 14:35.59 | ZogG_laptop | ooooh |
| 14:36.03 | ZogG_laptop | i though here |
| 14:36.06 | Morpog | lol |
| 14:36.20 | ZogG_laptop | than ehTre |
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| 14:38.15 | ZogG_laptop | $ imgr 2012-05-14-203751_775x451_scrot.png |
| 14:38.16 | ZogG_laptop | http://i.imgur.com/fF83J.png |
| 14:38.17 | tgalal | there you go |
| 14:38.23 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: ^ |
| 14:39.22 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: endless possibilities could fit in at the moment :D |
| 14:39.26 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: now i go to forum and spread the rumors that if you changed than you are gonna release it tonight and that with other nick i'll say that you just trolling |
| 14:39.40 | ZogG_laptop | and than it would be fun |
| 14:40.28 | tgalal | well u don't need to do that, I bet the fun already started :D |
| 14:40.51 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: ^ |
| 14:41.33 | djszapi | beford: ping |
| 14:42.09 | pa | how allowed is a program that "updates" itself ota? |
| 14:42.15 | pa | (i mean on the market) |
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| 14:42.36 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: btw how do you think to integrate emotions? using harmattan natives or ...? |
| 14:42.55 | ZogG_laptop | pa: rephrase |
| 14:43.17 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: wazapp has much more and different emotions |
| 14:43.35 | tgalal | so I guess it's gonna be a "one more" rip off lol |
| 14:43.36 | pa | ok, i mean, will nokia pass on ovi store an app that can update itself on the air? (without the need of updating the .deb i mean) |
| 14:44.16 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: i'm serious, if i have chat with official client how do smiles go both sides |
| 14:44.34 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: I am, I'll have to use whatsapp's original set |
| 14:44.34 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i wouldn't do it |
| 14:44.47 | pa | ZogG_laptop, why? |
| 14:44.56 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i think you should just add function to check for updates and than update thru ovi |
| 14:45.05 | pa | hm |
| 14:45.06 | ZogG_laptop | pa: because than QA is useless |
| 14:45.39 | ZogG_laptop | they checked your code, and than you can add anythig you want to it and they can't check |
| 14:46.11 | pa | well yeah |
| 14:47.52 | ZogG_laptop | pa: so it makes QA useless |
| 14:48.15 | pa | well yeah, but there are advantages too |
| 14:48.20 | khertan | it ll be quite easy to execute unchecked code, as qml is interpreted |
| 14:48.24 | Morpog | tgalal maybe point the community to the original ones and let them create a new set. |
| 14:48.30 | ZogG_laptop | http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/b606738b-83a7-4c43-96fd-3c964de7f938 instagram for windowsphone, lol just browsing |
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| 14:48.57 | ZogG_laptop | Morpog: there are no original ones |
| 14:49.07 | ZogG_laptop | Morpog: it's emotions from iphone |
| 14:49.14 | ZogG_laptop | or they have there own ? |
| 14:49.54 | Morpog | if i remember correctl on symbian it was their own. |
| 14:51.40 | ZogG_laptop | don't have whats app here |
| 14:53.54 | Morpog | dont have my n8 here |
| 14:54.24 | faenil | I've got n8 |
| 14:56.49 | Morpog | and whatsapp? how much emoticons are they and can you extract/export them? |
| 14:57.06 | faenil | let me give it a look |
| 14:57.10 | faenil | my gf is using my n8 atm |
| 14:57.28 | djszapi | faenil: o/ |
| 14:57.43 | faenil | hey djszapi :) |
| 14:58.01 | djszapi | 'sup volleyball championship master ;) |
| 14:58.22 | faenil | we lost yesterday :( 4° place for us |
| 14:58.23 | faenil | damnit! |
| 14:58.32 | djszapi | go home and practice then xD |
| 14:59.26 | faenil | ehehe :D |
| 14:59.34 | faenil | coding atm, I'll practise later, k dad? :D |
| 15:00.21 | djszapi | well, if you get five marks in the school my kid :p |
| 15:00.29 | djszapi | or whatever the best is in Italy :) |
| 15:01.10 | ZogG_laptop | faenil: than tell us about your gf meanwhile |
| 15:01.10 | faenil | :D |
| 15:01.19 | faenil | ZogG_laptop, lol |
| 15:01.24 | djszapi | lol |
| 15:01.35 | ZogG_laptop | i'll check my gf's blackberry |
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| 15:04.28 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: whatsapp uses "emoji" which I think is available for download publicly |
| 15:05.24 | faenil | ZogG_laptop, whatsapp doesn't start on my n8, too old version it says, redownloading it now |
| 15:05.36 | djszapi | why is this wazapp this famous ? |
| 15:05.37 | MohammadAG | Emoji from iOS5 |
| 15:05.43 | djszapi | what does it can do for me ? |
| 15:05.45 | MohammadAG | Emoji is from iOS * |
| 15:05.54 | MohammadAG | djszapi, nothing, if you don't need it, don't know what it does |
| 15:06.48 | djszapi | wazapp flows even from the tap in here :) |
| 15:07.25 | MohammadAG | original is called whatsapp fyi |
| 15:07.48 | djszapi | ohh, that does not sound cool :) |
| 15:08.12 | faenil | LOL EPIC FAIL, N8 takes me to windows phone marketplace to download whatsapp XD |
| 15:09.42 | faenil | so, it seems I can't download whatsapp from the phone... |
| 15:09.46 | faenil | god this is so stupid |
| 15:10.05 | faenil | they don't even check the OS of the model which has that UA? |
| 15:10.07 | faenil | ...-.- |
| 15:10.41 | djszapi | faenil: I told ya go back and practice volleyball instead ;) |
| 15:10.58 | faenil | lol you should tell that to whatsapp's webmasters |
| 15:11.09 | tgalal | I wonder what whatsapp's reaction towards wazapp means, which is absolute silence |
| 15:11.56 | Morpog | faenil, try via nokia store |
| 15:12.18 | djszapi | faenil: perhaps it is not wazapp enough |
| 15:13.44 | MohammadAG | tgalal, they probably don't know about it |
| 15:13.47 | faenil | Morpog, it says "Launch" in the store |
| 15:13.50 | MohammadAG | That's why we need marketing |
| 15:14.01 | MohammadAG | I'll tweet about it for $1/tweet |
| 15:14.06 | faenil | and whatsapp says "your app is too old,go to whatsapp.com/download to download the new one" |
| 15:14.13 | MohammadAG | $0.7 for each retweet |
| 15:14.19 | faenil | which then takes you to WINDOWS PHONE MARKETPLACE |
| 15:14.20 | faenil | LOOOOOL |
| 15:14.22 | MohammadAG | faenil, open whatsapp.com |
| 15:14.36 | Morpog | the store has a section where you can do updates, just like with n9 |
| 15:14.41 | MohammadAG | faenil, you seem happy, or high, whichever's making you caps lock :P |
| 15:14.55 | tgalal | faenil: drop your N8 and go for N9 and wazapp :P |
| 15:15.09 | tgalal | MohammadAG: yeah, and what else? lol |
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| 15:15.37 | Morpog | i stll love the n8s cam, n9s one sucks :-) |
| 15:15.38 | faenil | tgalal, not using my N8 :) using Lumia800 and Playbook atm :) |
| 15:15.58 | faenil | MohammadAG, I'm just shocked :D |
| 15:16.43 | faenil | true, N8's cam is very nice :) |
| 15:18.09 | MohammadAG | tgalal, nothing, that's enough marketing for whatsapp to notice :) |
| 15:21.27 | tgalal | MohammadAG: oh maybe I should also add a bigger donate button to your paypal account on the website as well :D |
| 15:21.49 | djszapi | beford: ping |
| 15:21.56 | djszapi | anybody else with Mac in here ? |
| 15:22.23 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: helped tgalal with code? |
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| 15:23.25 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: MohammadAG is dying to see the code :P |
| 15:24.12 | MohammadAG | tgalal, I've seen the notification code! |
| 15:24.28 | MohammadAG | tgalal, no no, just on first startup and each page in the app |
| 15:25.19 | ZogG_laptop | what are you talking about |
| 15:25.37 | MohammadAG | but yeah, I'm dying to see the rest of the code |
| 15:25.48 | MohammadAG | well, cause I feel like one less python app is better for everyone |
| 15:26.22 | tgalal | lol what's wrong with python |
| 15:26.27 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: would rewrite to MTF? |
| 15:26.29 | MohammadAG | Just that, it's python |
| 15:26.32 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, yes |
| 15:26.44 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: if I release the code :P |
| 15:26.59 | MohammadAG | We could always incept, RE and RE |
| 15:27.02 | MohammadAG | an* |
| 15:27.22 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: why didn't you try to write from scratch |
| 15:27.43 | MohammadAG | cause I hate working with XMPP |
| 15:28.10 | khertan | MohammadAG, lol ... an other python hater |
| 15:28.11 | khertan | arf |
| 15:28.12 | MohammadAG | if he gave me all the code on 29/4 I would've released the MTF version on 1/5 |
| 15:28.22 | MohammadAG | /2013 |
| 15:28.50 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: don't say HOP before you jump over |
| 15:29.09 | ZogG_laptop | but i know you are good programmer |
| 15:29.20 | khertan | MohammadAG, more python apps we have, better it ll be for users |
| 15:29.23 | MohammadAG | I've worked with XMPP before |
| 15:29.26 | ZogG_laptop | and i remember you just starting =P |
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| 15:29.42 | MohammadAG | more Python apps rewritten in MTF, the better it'll be for RAM and the CPU |
| 15:30.28 | khertan | in fact, not really true ... if you write it well, it could use less CPU and RAM than poorly written things in mtf |
| 15:30.33 | khertan | and will be portable |
| 15:30.54 | khertan | as mtf is deprecated, and none binding exists for python |
| 15:31.04 | khertan | you can't use currently mtf with python on harmattan |
| 15:31.11 | khertan | so use qml is the only choice |
| 15:31.20 | khertan | and this is where we lost memory and cpu :) |
| 15:31.27 | khertan | qmlengine |
| 15:31.31 | khertan | not python |
| 15:31.34 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: if it good written in MTF it would be better imo |
| 15:32.00 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, as mtf isn't really maintained let me doubt |
| 15:32.00 | khertan | :) |
| 15:32.24 | ZogG_laptop | f# that |
| 15:32.33 | ZogG_laptop | use assembly for mips |
| 15:32.36 | MohammadAG | khertan, seriously, mtf being deprecated is a weak weak argument |
| 15:32.42 | MohammadAG | the platform you're developing on is dead |
| 15:32.46 | MohammadAG | move to iOS/android |
| 15:32.55 | MohammadAG | see? two can moot-argue |
| 15:33.19 | javispedro | that has been my point since the day it was released ;) |
| 15:34.45 | ZogG_laptop | what i affraid harmattan wouldn't be supported like maemo after nokia have ditched it |
| 15:35.27 | djszapi | oh damn... |
| 15:35.46 | djszapi | my #meltemi channel registration was handed over to the freenode staff after my accidental unregistration on freenode. xD |
| 15:36.47 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: haha i think it's taken |
| 15:37.03 | djszapi | yep for Windows purposes :) |
| 15:37.07 | ZogG_laptop | and i think meltmi is step back to first step of six =) |
| 15:39.23 | djszapi | I hope they will give out next-billion devices at the QtCS. |
| 15:39.54 | ZogG_laptop | i always here about eco system and next billion from nokia |
| 15:40.03 | ZogG_laptop | but they are saying it for years and no result |
| 15:40.27 | ZogG_laptop | as well as a lot of symbian qt apps not ported to maemo and harmattan |
| 15:41.07 | djszapi | you have wrong ears :P |
| 15:42.52 | ZogG_laptop | what do you mean? |
| 15:43.01 | ZogG_laptop | here = hear btw |
| 15:43.06 | djszapi | wth |
| 15:43.10 | djszapi | there is this openfec project |
| 15:43.17 | djszapi | and they do not have an install target generated with cmake ??? |
| 15:43.17 | ZogG_laptop | and? |
| 15:43.22 | djszapi | I wrote to the guy |
| 15:43.27 | djszapi | since the repository is not even available... |
| 15:43.34 | djszapi | he told me that install target is unnecessary |
| 15:43.35 | djszapi | WTF! |
| 15:43.49 | djszapi | I cannot even send a patch since the repository is not shared, just released tarball |
| 15:44.06 | djszapi | and he desperately thinks this is a good way of developing |
| 15:44.06 | djszapi | well, who cares about his stuff, I do not. |
| 15:44.15 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: you can fork if you have sources |
| 15:44.35 | djszapi | ...or I can just a properly distributed open project. |
| 15:44.39 | djszapi | use* |
| 15:44.46 | djszapi | seriously, no install target ? |
| 15:44.49 | djszapi | what the heck ? |
| 15:45.02 | djszapi | no open repository in an _open_foo project? What the heck ? |
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| 15:47.56 | djszapi | thanks, but no thanks from their software. |
| 15:49.20 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: you acting like a girl =P |
| 15:49.50 | djszapi | no, they are acting like 30 years ago |
| 15:49.55 | djszapi | when there was no VCS system |
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| 15:50.11 | djszapi | but even at the old times, Makefiles consisted of install targets |
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| 15:50.30 | djszapi | how can *anybody* install the software without a local patch by *each* single customer ? |
| 15:53.18 | SpeedEvil | FEC - for what? |
| 15:53.56 | djszapi | perhaps you wanna read the theory behind FEc. |
| 15:53.58 | djszapi | FEC* |
| 15:54.05 | djszapi | at least the guy told me they have presentations published. |
| 15:54.10 | SpeedEvil | I know the theory. |
| 15:54.13 | djszapi | anyway, openfec -> big no go. |
| 15:54.20 | SpeedEvil | I assume you have some application in mind. |
| 15:54.29 | djszapi | sorry, I cannot share the business logic. |
| 15:54.37 | SpeedEvil | k |
| 15:55.15 | djszapi | I am unsure I have ever seen a C++ library in the last few years which does not provide an install target, nor a VCS repository and the name begins with _open_ |
| 15:57.56 | djszapi | is checking fecpp |
| 16:00.15 | djszapi | SpeedEvil: have you ever used a fec library ? |
| 16:00.29 | SpeedEvil | I've only coded it myself |
| 16:00.33 | SpeedEvil | And really basic stuff |
| 16:00.43 | djszapi | right |
| 16:00.56 | djszapi | I need Optimized Reed-Solomon. |
| 16:01.26 | SpeedEvil | RS isn't very computationally expensive - or do you mean for large volumes of data? |
| 16:01.41 | djszapi | no, just few bytes |
| 16:02.32 | faenil | what do you use to put some space between some elements in a Column? a transparent rectangle? |
| 16:03.06 | djszapi | faenil: space ? |
| 16:03.16 | faenil | empty space |
| 16:03.25 | djszapi | what is wrong about "spacing" ? |
| 16:03.56 | djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qml-column.html?tab=1#spacing-prop |
| 16:03.59 | faenil | that it's applied to all elements? ... |
| 16:04.10 | djszapi | between the elements, yes... |
| 16:04.20 | faenil | I didn't write between the elements :P |
| 16:04.34 | djszapi | "what do you use to put some space between some elements in a Column?" |
| 16:04.42 | faenil | okay, now read it |
| 16:04.44 | faenil | :D |
| 16:05.00 | djszapi | again, spacing was designed for that. |
| 16:05.34 | faenil | definition: The spacing is the amount in pixels left empty between adjacent items. The default spacing is 0. |
| 16:05.49 | faenil | it is the same for all elements. |
| 16:05.58 | faenil | Now...I want some space between SOME elements |
| 16:06.15 | djszapi | and what is the problem ? |
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| 16:06.23 | djszapi | I am really not getting this since it is basic QML |
| 16:06.35 | djszapi | how to position certain elements to each other. |
| 16:06.41 | faenil | I was just asking how you usually do it, since a transparent rectangle seemed weird |
| 16:06.49 | djszapi | that is totally broken idea. |
| 16:07.01 | faenil | exactly |
| 16:07.02 | faenil | so. |
| 16:07.05 | djszapi | perhaps you might wanna read about margins |
| 16:07.11 | faenil | I know about margins |
| 16:07.13 | djszapi | or putting the internal elements into a column, etc |
| 16:07.17 | djszapi | tons of ways existing. |
| 16:07.19 | faenil | oh for god's sake djszapi :D |
| 16:07.23 | djszapi | what is the exact problem ? |
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| 16:07.28 | faenil | did anyone understand my question? :D |
| 16:07.33 | faenil | that I have one column |
| 16:07.37 | MohammadAG | which reminds me, how do I have a spacer in MTF.... |
| 16:07.43 | faenil | and want to put some space only between some elements |
| 16:08.10 | djszapi | faenil: I do not understand your problem |
| 16:08.15 | djszapi | you have tons of ways to achieve that |
| 16:08.18 | djszapi | what is the exact problem ? |
| 16:08.21 | djszapi | which way have you tried ? |
| 16:08.31 | faenil | name one ;) |
| 16:08.35 | djszapi | margins ? |
| 16:09.32 | djszapi | puttin the relevant items into another column ? etc |
| 16:09.35 | faenil | the Column docs says you should not play with margins,anchors, positions, etc of the items inside a colum |
| 16:09.46 | faenil | without using another column :) |
| 16:09.50 | faenil | so margins is out |
| 16:10.12 | djszapi | why cannot you use margin ? |
| 16:10.15 | djszapi | that makes no sense to me |
| 16:10.19 | faenil | because docs say you should not |
| 16:10.21 | djszapi | you can always even use an Item container |
| 16:10.25 | djszapi | and use the marging or spacing inside |
| 16:10.27 | djszapi | what is this hard ? |
| 16:10.32 | faenil | -.- |
| 16:10.33 | djszapi | really tons of ways in basic qml :) |
| 16:11.15 | djszapi | you try to use Column how it was not supposed to be used |
| 16:11.30 | faenil | ok so the answer is: you can't do that with a column |
| 16:11.32 | faenil | that's it |
| 16:11.34 | faenil | ;) |
| 16:11.38 | djszapi | of course you can |
| 16:11.42 | djszapi | I even mentioned many ways |
| 16:11.51 | faenil | you mentioned ways which are against docs |
| 16:11.56 | djszapi | no |
| 16:12.01 | faenil | and which require adding columns :) |
| 16:12.02 | djszapi | do not misinterpret me, nor the docs |
| 16:12.06 | faenil | ok :P |
| 16:12.18 | djszapi | I have said use Column internally for spacing where they are equal. |
| 16:12.22 | djszapi | or item with margin. |
| 16:12.34 | faenil | Item inside the column right? |
| 16:12.44 | djszapi | well, that is not the best |
| 16:12.48 | djszapi | I would use another column |
| 16:12.56 | djszapi | since you need a column anyway |
| 16:13.01 | faenil | leave out another column... |
| 16:13.08 | djszapi | why would you ? |
| 16:13.19 | djszapi | you wanna have columns |
| 16:13.21 | djszapi | with spacings |
| 16:13.29 | faenil | djszapi, just beacuse I don't want to :) |
| 16:13.29 | djszapi | so make a column for column purposes with different spacings |
| 16:13.32 | djszapi | what is wrong ? |
| 16:13.45 | djszapi | well, if you do not wanna get the correct answer, then do not ask xD |
| 16:13.46 | faenil | nothing, just want to see if there's any decent solution to my question |
| 16:14.17 | faenil | djszapi, you keep saying ideas which go against my prereqs :D |
| 16:14.22 | faenil | no other columns |
| 16:14.28 | djszapi | then why ask ? |
| 16:14.34 | faenil | why not? |
| 16:14.38 | djszapi | if you do not wanna solve it how it is supposed to be solved ? |
| 16:14.38 | djszapi | meh |
| 16:14.42 | djszapi | then I can ignore the next question :P |
| 16:14.47 | faenil | lol |
| 16:15.03 | faenil | the question wasn't "how to reproduce that layout" :) |
| 16:15.28 | faenil | the question was "what would you do to put different space between elements of one, same, column" |
| 16:16.01 | faenil | if you want to add columns, or change the layout in other ways, just do not answer ;) don't take it as an offence bro :) |
| 16:16.07 | faenil | I don't want to solve a problem, I was just curious |
| 16:16.40 | faenil | to see what qml and its elements can/can't do |
| 16:16.59 | faenil | I know that using another column is better :) |
| 16:17.19 | faenil | is it clear now ? :) |
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| 16:17.49 | faenil | anyone? |
| 16:18.32 | DocScrutinizer | wow, sometimes "dialogs" in this chan get pretty hilarious, esp when /ignore kicks in turning a dialog into a monologue |
| 16:18.41 | faenil | exactly |
| 16:18.45 | faenil | noted this is the case :) |
| 16:19.35 | faenil | noticed* |
| 16:19.44 | faenil | pretty easy to argue with djszapi :D |
| 16:22.44 | faenil | ok, it seems qml can't do that and that's it :) |
| 16:24.28 | djszapi | I told you ? |
| 16:24.58 | faenil | what are you referring to? |
| 16:25.46 | djszapi | nvm |
| 16:27.01 | djszapi | SpeedEvil: oh yeah, the guy wrote that he can generate an installer target (one liner) in the next release upcoming. :) |
| 16:27.10 | djszapi | s/installer/install/ |
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| 16:30.02 | djszapi | merlin1991: ping |
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| 16:34.02 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal_: i'm already trolling with you changing letters =) |
| 16:35.48 | djszapi | ah! So qmlapplicationviewer.h is generated by qtcreator. |
| 16:37.20 | djszapi | I am unsure if that class is useful for desktop. I wonder why that is generated for desktop. |
| 16:40.00 | pa | great, app finished.. |
| 16:40.05 | pa | now the problem is to pack it |
| 16:40.27 | ZogG_laptop | pa: what app? |
| 16:40.46 | pa | support for multiple gmail accounts for fetching the contacts |
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| 16:41.26 | pa | i support even contact groups :) |
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| 16:44.02 | ZogG_laptop | pa: separete or integrated? |
| 16:44.15 | ZogG_laptop | fetch to system or oin app contacts? |
| 16:47.39 | pa | no, only google contacts groups |
| 16:48.02 | pa | they are not mapped to harmattan contacts groups |
| 16:48.20 | pa | which i find a little unpractical :) |
| 16:48.55 | pa | i guess i should also add an gui, to get to the store |
| 16:49.00 | pa | a gui, sorry |
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| 16:49.29 | djszapi | pa: you do not need to. |
| 16:49.39 | djszapi | pa: even a simple plugin can get into without any UI. |
| 16:49.59 | pa | ah cool |
| 16:50.08 | pa | but i have a command line tool |
| 16:50.19 | pa | which probably requires dev enabled |
| 16:50.23 | pa | otherwise no terminal |
| 16:50.40 | ZogG_laptop | pa: irssi chat is there |
| 16:50.46 | ZogG_laptop | in OVI |
| 16:50.57 | pa | ah.. |
| 16:51.00 | pa | cool :) |
| 16:52.29 | djszapi | you do not even need a command line :) |
| 16:52.53 | pa | then i guess i just need to pack it properly |
| 16:52.59 | pa | not with pyside assistant |
| 16:53.15 | pa | need to find out how, with scratchbox |
| 16:54.12 | djszapi | I can help, if you have issues |
| 16:54.49 | pa | well, i just never did it before |
| 16:55.00 | pa | i will look into it, but thanks |
| 16:55.12 | pa | if i have issues i'll come back here :) |
| 16:55.23 | djszapi | good luck |
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| 17:12.45 | ZogG_laptop | nice |
| 17:12.54 | ZogG_laptop | new flexible screens were presented today |
| 17:12.57 | ZogG_laptop | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGNRSH9JYio&feature=player_embedded |
| 17:13.09 | ZogG_laptop | cutting them with scisors do not harm the work |
| 17:16.04 | djszapi | amazing |
| 17:21.01 | faenil | wow |
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| 17:21.45 | faenil | incredible |
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| 17:37.54 | ZogG_laptop | there are few more videos of how it's flexibale |
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| 18:01.55 | SpeedEvil | Umm |
| 18:02.07 | SpeedEvil | I note that he's cutting it directly up the middle |
| 18:02.09 | Arie | no one's here |
| 18:02.38 | SpeedEvil | If you do that with a (glass) dual-sided panel - you get the same result |
| 18:02.46 | SpeedEvil | (clearly, you can't use scissors |
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| 18:14.56 | djszapi | beford: ping |
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| 18:51.18 | Arie | tgalal_: wazzap |
| 19:00.02 | djszapi | beford: super ping :) |
| 19:01.29 | Arie | try bedf0rd: ping |
| 19:02.24 | djszapi | why would I ? |
| 19:02.53 | Arie | whats up |
| 19:03.05 | djszapi | I need Mac help |
| 19:03.15 | djszapi | pretty hard to debug the issue without a Mac machine :) |
| 19:03.44 | djszapi | I could tell what to do, what to inject, etc, but I do not have Mac :( |
| 19:05.20 | Arie | djszapi: I don't own a mac |
| 19:08.12 | djszapi | anyway, I pretty much figured out the issue |
| 19:08.20 | djszapi | and I need to ask for help on the qt development mailing list |
| 19:08.29 | djszapi | since it runs over my skills. |
| 19:11.34 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | u can install osx in vmware |
| 19:13.50 | djszapi | no warez thanks. |
| 19:14.14 | rzr-got-n9-yeah | u can buy it :) |
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| 19:16.19 | achilless999 | hi |
| 19:16.42 | achilless999 | i'm having problems in using QT SDK on windows! can anyone help on this? |
| 19:17.02 | achilless999 | i'm new to QT & harmattan |
| 19:17.26 | achilless999 | i created helloworld project & set run target to run on my n9 device.. |
| 19:17.47 | achilless999 | but it doesn't launch the helloworld project |
| 19:17.55 | achilless999 | can someone please help? |
| 19:19.02 | jonni | and your connectivity tests work then you pair your device? and have deployed ssh keys? |
| 19:19.50 | achilless999 | yes, I have deploye ssh keys and connectivity test is good |
| 19:20.29 | jonni | and what kind of error message it shows in there screen? |
| 19:21.01 | achilless999 | let me re-build & I will paste the error. in 2 mins! |
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| 19:21.58 | jonni | usually the compile output shows whats wrong |
| 19:23.26 | achilless999 | just to make sure..I have to connect the device in sdk mode only , is that right? |
| 19:24.34 | jonni | yes sdk mode if your developing over usbnet, although it also works over wifi if your desktop and device is on same wlan |
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| 19:25.48 | achilless999 | this is the build log http://pastebin.com/GAm3V30t |
| 19:25.55 | achilless999 | there were many errors :( |
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| 19:27.13 | jonni | achilless999: that log says that it istalled the deb succesfully |
| 19:27.56 | achilless999 | but the application ouput says this "Killing remote process(es)... Starting remote process ... Remote process started. sh: /opt/helloworld/bin/helloworld: not found Finished running remote process. Exit code was 127" |
| 19:29.01 | jonni | but yes it installs the deb, but most likely its empty debian package since debian generating phase shows errors |
| 19:29.06 | achilless999 | also if you search the build log for string "Error" you will see few errors. I couldn't figure out what they mean |
| 19:30.01 | jonni | /bin/sh: line 0: test: /c/Users/saddanki/Documents/Synergy/Qt: binary operator expected, most likely your Qt environment is broken |
| 19:30.07 | jonni | ie reinstall the SDK |
| 19:30.58 | jonni | might be because you have space in path name |
| 19:31.03 | jonni | which is a no-no |
| 19:31.19 | jonni | you are not allowed to have spaces |
| 19:31.38 | jonni | so rename "Qt Projects" to Qt_Projects" and it will help you |
| 19:31.50 | achilless999 | ok. let me try that..thanks @jonni |
| 19:35.12 | MohammadAG | alterego, ping |
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| 19:42.44 | achilless999 | spaces in directory is the issue..worked now |
| 19:43.21 | achilless999 | though it worked..i see some other errors..like to know what does that mean |
| 19:43.27 | achilless999 | "Installation to sysroot failed, continuing anyway" |
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| 19:51.52 | achilless999 | I see this error during build.. "Installation to sysroot failed, continuing anyway"! what does this mean? |
| 19:52.58 | MohammadAG | anyone good with Qt models? |
| 19:53.14 | MohammadAG | it's the SDK sysroot |
| 19:53.24 | MohammadAG | if you don't need the app installed in the SDK, ignore it |
| 19:54.27 | achilless999 | so, it does nothing to do with simulation on device. thanks! |
| 19:54.53 | MohammadAG | nope, you're welcome :) |
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| 19:55.59 | achilless999 | also, does simulating on device, changes any packages on device? |
| 20:01.02 | djszapi | jonni: are you familiar with qmake ? |
| 20:01.32 | djszapi | MohammadAG: I am not good with Qt models, but shoot ;) |
| 20:06.09 | MohammadAG | I asked on the oh so helpful #qt, but here goes |
| 20:06.10 | MohammadAG | I have a model with an ImageLoader class instance in it, ImageLoader is a simplified class that loads images from a URL using QNetworkAccessManager::get |
| 20:06.11 | MohammadAG | ImageLoader fetches the image, then emits imageLoaded(), the model receives this and should emit dataChanged then |
| 20:06.11 | MohammadAG | it does receive the signal, and the correct index is detected, but dataChanged() doesn't seem to be updating the item correctly |
| 20:06.12 | MohammadAG | emit dataChanged(index(0, dataChangedForIndex, QModelIndex()), index(0, dataChangedForIndex, QModelIndex())); <-- this is how I'm emitting the signal |
| 20:06.40 | djszapi | beford: ping :) |
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| 20:19.43 | MohammadAG | djszapi, so? :P |
| 20:24.14 | djszapi | why would you emit the signal ? |
| 20:24.27 | djszapi | wouldn't you like to instead set the data ? |
| 20:24.57 | djszapi | you have an own QAIM subclass ? |
| 20:25.57 | djszapi | emit dataChanged( index, index ); |
| 20:26.02 | djszapi | I personally emit this way. |
| 20:26.11 | djszapi | inside the setData method |
| 20:26.12 | MohammadAG | and how do you get the index? |
| 20:26.57 | djszapi | setData has that as a parameter |
| 20:28.46 | MohammadAG | I don't think I can do it that way |
| 20:29.13 | djszapi | or even insertRows |
| 20:29.22 | djszapi | those methods all have the index as a parameter |
| 20:29.26 | MohammadAG | can you take a look at the model? |
| 20:29.27 | MohammadAG | https://gitorious.org/qtbook/sociality-mtf/blobs/master/src/models/facebookobjectmodel.cpp |
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| 20:30.51 | djszapi | appendObject ? |
| 20:30.56 | djszapi | that is weird. |
| 20:31.02 | MohammadAG | it's a custom method |
| 20:31.10 | djszapi | well |
| 20:31.15 | djszapi | insertRows does have index method |
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| 20:31.30 | djszapi | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qabstractitemmodel.html#insertRows |
| 20:31.30 | MohammadAG | the data isn't available when I do insertRows |
| 20:31.38 | MohammadAG | this images are fetched from a URL |
| 20:31.57 | djszapi | insert a row when there are available. |
| 20:32.10 | MohammadAG | not the best UX |
| 20:32.40 | djszapi | in any case, you can get the index |
| 20:32.42 | djszapi | no matter when |
| 20:33.32 | djszapi | I have not personally used anything else with dataChanged signal than insertRows or setData. |
| 20:35.12 | djszapi | check your index if valid. |
| 20:36.39 | MohammadAG | how? |
| 20:36.56 | djszapi | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qmodelindex.html#isValid |
| 20:37.10 | MohammadAG | didn't expect that, sorry :p |
| 20:40.27 | MohammadAG | seems to always return true |
| 20:41.05 | MohammadAG | or not |
| 20:44.02 | MohammadAG | meh |
| 20:44.16 | MohammadAG | had columns and rows swapped |
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| 21:22.02 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: pingie |
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| 21:59.51 | MohammadAG | anyone got Harmattan scratchbox? |
| 22:01.04 | djszapi | yep |
| 22:02.16 | MohammadAG | djszapi, can you compile widgetsgallery for me? |
| 22:02.22 | MohammadAG | it needs a compilation of meegotouch |
| 22:03.04 | djszapi | do you have the link to the source ? |
| 22:03.10 | MohammadAG | http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/trees/master |
| 22:03.16 | MohammadAG | http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/archive-tarball/master |
| 22:08.11 | djszapi | I need to fix a bug first, but then I can help with that. |
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| 22:21.59 | MohammadAG | woo |
| 22:22.10 | MohammadAG | Sociality-mtf can now send me a bug report with a log attached |
| 22:22.31 | MohammadAG | QDesktopServices::openUrl(QUrl("mailto:myemail?subject=Sociality%20bug%20report&attach=/tmp/sociality-mtf-crash-log.txt&Body=Sociality%20has%20crashed%20and%20this%20is%20an%20automated%20bug%20report.\nA%20log%20file%20has%20been%20attached,%20this%20may%20help%20in%20debugging%20the%20app,%20it%20was%20processed%20to%20remove%20all%20private%20links%20from%20it.\nIf%20the%20problem%20is%20reproduceable,%20please%20descri |
| 22:22.31 | MohammadAG | be%20it:\n1.\n2.\n3.")); |
| 22:22.46 | DocScrutinizer | wtf?! |
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| 22:31.09 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: and passwords =) |
| 22:31.49 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: ping |
| 22:32.28 | ZogG_laptop | SpeedEvil: there is screenshot with one with hole there as well |
| 22:32.33 | ZogG_laptop | not in the middle |
| 22:33.43 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, sec |
| 22:35.01 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, http://pastebin.com/8Fdg8czT |
| 22:38.16 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: you know it was joke, do you? |
| 22:39.01 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, yes, but I considered user's privacy |
| 22:39.16 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: and i consider world's piracy =) |
| 22:39.22 | MohammadAG | the code removes any links (probably from failed photo downloads) |
| 22:39.36 | MohammadAG | and the access token, which if passed to me allows me to login/access the user's fbv |
| 22:39.51 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: have an update for testing. |
| 22:39.52 | MohammadAG | I'd be burned alive if I left that data in the log |
| 22:40.22 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: tomorrow man, sorry |
| 22:40.26 | ZogG_laptop | need to go to sleep |
| 22:41.44 | djszapi | sleep is for weaks |
| 22:41.44 | djszapi | :P |
| 22:42.17 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: i wouldn't miss the appoinment with lawer tomorrow |
| 22:42.28 | ZogG_laptop | as well my gf is waiting and she would kill me =) |
| 22:42.43 | djszapi | gfs can wait :) |
| 22:44.24 | MohammadAG | GFs can wait they said, you'll stay in a relationship, they said |
| 22:45.10 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: =) |
| 22:45.46 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: i even don't know how she is still with me while i'm always still with N9 or laptop |
| 22:46.03 | MohammadAG | that can't be healthy |
| 22:46.08 | MohammadAG | for the N9 |
| 22:46.28 | MohammadAG | djszapi, fixed the bug? :p |
| 22:46.50 | djszapi | not yet |
| 22:46.53 | djszapi | but you can help :) |
| 22:49.28 | MohammadAG | how? |
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| 22:58.45 | faenil | hey guys, I'm having a weird problem with Flickable...it has a Grid inside |
| 22:59.00 | faenil | I set contentHeight to contentItem.height |
| 22:59.18 | faenil | but that doesn't take topMargin and bottomMargin of the Grid into account |
| 22:59.36 | faenil | so I summed them to contentItem.height, but still, the flickable doesn't scroll till the end |
| 22:59.46 | faenil | has anyone experienced the same? |
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| 23:31.59 | djszapi | lol got my most retarded review |
| 23:35.31 | Velmont | ...yet |
