| 00:14.56 | itsnotabigtruck | man, this can of red bull smells wretched |
| 00:15.06 | itsnotabigtruck | tastes ok but ugh |
| 00:24.11 | alterego | I find those kinds of energy drinks pretty awful all round :P |
| 00:37.59 | mzanetti_ | I'm trying to compile my app in OBS but I can't find the libqmsystem2-dev package. Anyone knows how to get that packge in there? |
| 00:39.12 | mankeli | jbos: |
| 00:39.17 | mankeli | oops. |
| 00:40.05 | itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: that's odd...is it in the harmattan-dev repos? |
| 00:40.31 | itsnotabigtruck | because C-OBS pulls packages off there so if it's there, it should work |
| 00:40.52 | itsnotabigtruck | does it refuse to build with 'unresolvable' state, or does it start building and fail |
| 00:41.06 | itsnotabigtruck | because in the latter case, that isn't a missing package |
| 00:41.23 | itsnotabigtruck | make sure you aren't using per-arch dependencies because those break on OBS |
| 00:42.46 | mzanetti_ | itsnotabigtruck: it fails on compilation |
| 00:43.12 | itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: ok, then see above |
| 00:43.33 | itsnotabigtruck | if it starts building and fails, OBS screwed up or you screwed up :p |
| 00:43.44 | mzanetti_ | itsnotabigtruck: most likely I did |
| 00:44.06 | itsnotabigtruck | because it doesn't initiate the build until all packages it *thinks* your package requires are available |
| 00:44.15 | itsnotabigtruck | and then it installs those packages before doing the actual build |
| 00:44.38 | itsnotabigtruck | but per-arch dependencies (the ones like foo [armel]) don't seem to work |
| 00:44.43 | itsnotabigtruck | so if you're doing that, that's the culprit |
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| 00:46.16 | mzanetti_ | itsnotabigtruck: I think the problem is that I don't have the dependency declared at all. problem is, I'm trying to find how the package name is but OBS search doesn't show it |
| 00:46.26 | itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: wait what? |
| 00:46.30 | itsnotabigtruck | ok, just link the build log |
| 00:46.41 | itsnotabigtruck | you just named a package so i assumed it was complaining about a missing package |
| 00:47.13 | mzanetti_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=xbmcremote&project=home%3Amzanetti&repository=Harmattan |
| 00:47.45 | itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: oh, ok...so it's not what you made it sound like at all :p |
| 00:47.54 | mzanetti_ | well, the package in the device is called qmsystem2. so I guessed the dev package would be qmsystem2-dev |
| 00:47.56 | itsnotabigtruck | it's a missing package, but it's missing as in it's not requested at all |
| 00:48.03 | mzanetti_ | yes |
| 00:48.15 | itsnotabigtruck | if you specified it in the Build-Depends, it shouln't try to build it unless it's available |
| 00:48.19 | mzanetti_ | with missing I rather meant "I can't find it in the OBS search" |
| 00:48.21 | itsnotabigtruck | maybe you didn't put it in the right spot |
| 00:48.25 | itsnotabigtruck | forget about the OBS search |
| 00:48.32 | itsnotabigtruck | it doesn't know about packages in foreign repos |
| 00:48.37 | itsnotabigtruck | which includes all the SDK packages |
| 00:48.40 | itsnotabigtruck | so it's not a factor |
| 00:48.46 | mzanetti_ | ok |
| 00:48.56 | itsnotabigtruck | apt-cache search in scratchbox is the best bet |
| 00:49.21 | itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: where, exactly, did you put that dependency |
| 00:49.24 | itsnotabigtruck | Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), libqt4-dev, libqtm-dev, applauncherd-dev, aegis-builder, pkg-config, qjson-dev |
| 00:49.27 | itsnotabigtruck | because it's not there |
| 00:50.04 | itsnotabigtruck | OBS bases everything off your DSC file |
| 00:50.10 | mzanetti_ | I tried a few builds now with putting it in the debian/control file |
| 00:50.20 | itsnotabigtruck | which is generated with your control file, yeah |
| 00:50.28 | mzanetti_ | ah... thats why it didn't care about :D |
| 00:50.34 | mzanetti_ | oh... |
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| 00:50.40 | itsnotabigtruck | btw libqmsystem2-dev is the correct package name |
| 00:50.48 | mzanetti_ | no... my dsc file is handwritten |
| 00:50.51 | itsnotabigtruck | but since you didn't put it anywhere obviously OBS isn't going to divine that it's what you wanted |
| 00:50.58 | itsnotabigtruck | oh... |
| 00:51.07 | itsnotabigtruck | are you using qt creator, or packaging it normally |
| 00:51.10 | mzanetti_ | ok... I think I start to understand things |
| 00:51.13 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm guessing qt creator |
| 00:51.18 | itsnotabigtruck | which tends to make everything very very painful |
| 00:51.28 | itsnotabigtruck | the moment you want to do something nokia didn't think of, which is most things |
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| 00:52.05 | mzanetti_ | I'm using qtcreator usually... works fine... today I thought about building the stuff on OBS |
| 00:52.08 | itsnotabigtruck | if your source tree is debian-style though, it's very easy to have it produce a DSC file along with your tar.gz |
| 00:52.15 | mzanetti_ | and I'm still trying to figure out how things work |
| 00:52.50 | mzanetti_ | so far I have a script which copies needed files to da debian-style directory and packages it up |
| 00:52.54 | itsnotabigtruck | uggggggggh |
| 00:52.57 | mzanetti_ | heh |
| 00:53.03 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm not in an awesome mood right now and i really don't like dealing with qtc |
| 00:53.26 | mzanetti_ | ok... no problem... I'll figure it out... you saved me a lot of time already |
| 00:53.30 | mzanetti_ | thanks |
| 00:53.31 | itsnotabigtruck | spent a couple hours a week or two ago in a wild goose chase that resulted in me finding out that qt creator treats certain paths magically |
| 00:53.36 | itsnotabigtruck | and insists on everything having particular filenames |
| 00:53.55 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, DSC files aren't supposed to be handwritten |
| 00:54.00 | itsnotabigtruck | it might be your best bet because qt creator sucks |
| 00:54.24 | itsnotabigtruck | but normally, dpkg-buildpackage will clean your source tree, tar everything up, and build a dsc file out of debian/control |
| 00:54.58 | itsnotabigtruck | but qt creator's arrangement isn't normal, it doesn't even have a debian directory in a clean source tree |
| 00:55.14 | mzanetti_ | yes, I noticed that |
| 00:56.02 | itsnotabigtruck | so...i really wish someone would make something polished so that noobs have a chance at being able to upload to apps for meego |
| 00:56.07 | itsnotabigtruck | and build source packges in general |
| 01:01.05 | beford | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314178_10150678841013360_290539813359_9108047_1444074152_n.jpg |
| 01:01.46 | mankeli | FINALLY \o/ |
| 01:02.39 | mankeli | app start without compositor animation |
| 01:04.40 | itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: what was the trick |
| 01:06.19 | mankeli | add _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DIALOG atom to _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE |
| 01:06.43 | mankeli | or _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_* (expect NORMAL), but some of those disable swiping |
| 01:07.43 | mankeli | i figured that out hours ago, but i had a nice bonus challenge with SDL :-D |
| 01:09.13 | mankeli | so, creating window manually and passing SDL_WINDOWID to SDL doesn't seem to work _at all_ (although it doesn't even work on desktop, so it might be that i'm neglecting something important), but luckily it's ok if i set the atom just after sdl_setvideomode |
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| 01:13.01 | mankeli | but: mankeli 1 - harmattan + sdl together 0 |
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| 01:51.03 | itsnotabigtruck | hmm, just started getting some truly WTF latency on my apartment inet connection |
| 01:51.15 | itsnotabigtruck | now tethering |
| 01:55.47 | itsnotabigtruck | the hell is going on :| youtube is acting rather "special" right now |
| 02:03.08 | beford | hacked |
| 02:07.00 | CreamyG31337 | wireless? apartments suck for that |
| 02:07.18 | itsnotabigtruck | 1 IE9 window with 1 tab open to youtube = 200 MB |
| 02:07.33 | itsnotabigtruck | efficient :/ not like the other browsers are any better, if anything chrome/fx are even worse |
| 02:07.48 | itsnotabigtruck | and CreamyG31337: both wired and wireless |
| 02:07.53 | itsnotabigtruck | something's screwed up on a router |
| 02:07.57 | itsnotabigtruck | it's not wireless interference |
| 02:08.00 | CreamyG31337 | yeah i had to upgrade to 16gb ram to avoid restarting all my web browsers every 24 hrs |
| 02:09.14 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah...i mean, shiny new websites take RAM, and uncompressed images do take striking amounts of space, but still...browser RAM consumption is out of control |
| 02:09.36 | CreamyG31337 | yeah they don't seem to release anything back to the system |
| 02:10.12 | CreamyG31337 | i dunno. could be the extentions or something too |
| 02:10.19 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/t8do1/so_i_commissioned_my_first_piece_of_art/c4kfxnk |
| 02:10.21 | CreamyG31337 | i am happy to blame adobe too |
| 02:10.33 | itsnotabigtruck | fields of atomized horses |
| 02:10.36 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 02:10.47 | itsnotabigtruck | flash is a huge RAM hog too |
| 02:10.58 | itsnotabigtruck | but it's not the principal cause of browser RAM bloat |
| 02:11.12 | itsnotabigtruck | each of them independently uses up zillions of megs |
| 02:13.58 | CreamyG31337 | haha i wasted a lot of $ at the valve store |
| 02:14.18 | CreamyG31337 | i just keep that shit at work and nobody has a clue |
| 02:15.49 | itsnotabigtruck | i've got the Delivering the Future mug |
| 02:15.58 | itsnotabigtruck | with the Black Mesa logo |
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| 02:18.05 | CreamyG31337 | aperture science mug for me :) |
| 02:18.23 | CreamyG31337 | i had a cool shirt from there, where the hell did it go... |
| 02:21.07 | CreamyG31337 | apparently my shirt is a lie too :( |
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| 09:48.54 | PaulePanter | It is always such a stupid thing. Sorry for bothering you with that and wasting your time. |
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| 13:00.46 | mzanetti_ | Has anyone figured out if its possible to use the multimedia buttons on the lockscreen with an own application? |
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| 18:45.14 | teleshoes | anyone know if i have to do something special to get qsound to work? i want to play a wav from pyside |
| 18:45.48 | teleshoes | QSound.play('/home/user/snd.wav') |
| 18:46.02 | teleshoes | fails silently |
| 18:51.18 | itsnotabigtruck | literally |
| 18:51.24 | teleshoes | heh |
| 18:51.29 | teleshoes | just so |
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| 19:28.25 | MrModR | what does digsigsums error mean? |
| 19:28.44 | MrModR | I am trying to install a deb with my scripts and I get this error |
| 19:30.07 | MrModR | can anyone help? |
| 19:31.04 | teleshoes | digsigsums is a file that has to be in the deb |
| 19:31.14 | teleshoes | has a list of all the sums of the installed files |
| 19:31.23 | teleshoes | if you change one of the files, next boot you get malf |
| 19:32.01 | teleshoes | whered you get the deb from? |
| 19:32.21 | MrModR | @teleshoes, I made the deb from my N900 with dpkg-deb |
| 19:32.27 | MrModR | its a bunch of scripts |
| 19:32.36 | teleshoes | n900 ? |
| 19:32.48 | teleshoes | build it in scratchbox |
| 19:33.06 | teleshoes | with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 19:33.13 | MrModR | dont have access to one... |
| 19:33.15 | teleshoes | and digsigsums will be automatically generated |
| 19:33.19 | teleshoes | to a computer? |
| 19:33.28 | MrModR | to a linux computer |
| 19:33.45 | teleshoes | get a thumbdrive, install a live linux distro on it |
| 19:33.49 | teleshoes | plug er in |
| 19:34.01 | MrModR | hmm... will it be persistent? |
| 19:34.13 | teleshoes | if you use ubuntu, yea |
| 19:34.39 | MrModR | ok so, I'll download the latest ubuntu live cd and install it onto a usb stick? |
| 19:34.52 | teleshoes | mmhmm, should be good |
| 19:34.56 | teleshoes | id recommend xubuntu |
| 19:35.00 | teleshoes | lighter weight |
| 19:35.27 | MrModR | but if i use a linux distro, do I need scratchbox? |
| 19:35.29 | teleshoes | yes |
| 19:35.38 | MrModR | cant i just directly use dpkg-deb? |
| 19:35.46 | teleshoes | no |
| 19:35.51 | MrModR | or dpkg-buildpackage |
| 19:35.59 | MrModR | hmm... |
| 19:36.00 | teleshoes | you need to generate some custom aegis-y things |
| 19:36.06 | MrModR | oh i see |
| 19:36.15 | teleshoes | so you need to use the cross-compilation tools provided by nokia |
| 19:36.22 | MrModR | I see |
| 19:36.33 | MrModR | How to install scratch box in ubuntu |
| 19:36.42 | teleshoes | one tic, ill get you the url |
| 19:36.49 | teleshoes | you download a python script and run it |
| 19:36.49 | teleshoes | period |
| 19:37.06 | MrModR | oh cool |
| 19:37.53 | teleshoes | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/stable/harmattan/harmattan-sdk-setup.py |
| 19:38.00 | teleshoes | it has to download about 1.6GB |
| 19:38.15 | teleshoes | for the two targets, armel and x86 |
| 19:38.34 | teleshoes | i dunno how easy this is gonna be on a thumbdrive install, what with it installing to /tmp by default |
| 19:38.38 | teleshoes | do you happen to have a ton of ram? |
| 19:39.49 | MrModR | is 3gb of ram = a ton? |
| 19:40.09 | teleshoes | no, 4gb is equal to one ton of ram |
| 19:40.14 | teleshoes | eh, youre better off actually installing a real linux distro side-by-side with windows |
| 19:41.09 | MrModR | what about virtualbox? |
| 19:41.13 | teleshoes | should work |
| 19:41.49 | teleshoes | i dunno though, ive never used windows |
| 19:42.18 | MrModR | ok, thanks for all the help. will report back soon :) |
| 19:42.33 | teleshoes | np |
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| 19:50.57 | teleshoes | QMediaPlayer.isAudioAvailable() => false |
| 19:51.01 | teleshoes | :( |
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| 20:19.38 | teleshoes | ARGH |
| 20:20.14 | teleshoes | its qt; you have to initialize your QMediaPlayer object in the same FILE that you create your QApp |
| 20:20.22 | teleshoes | qt is so stateful its disgusting |
| 20:20.37 | teleshoes | {e.g.: must construct an application before constructing a paint device} |
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| 21:22.22 | itsnotabigtruck | re teleshoes that sounds fishy, qt shouldn't even know about 'files' |
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| 23:39.30 | tgalal | Hi |
| 23:39.37 | tgalal | anyone cares to test wazapp? |
| 23:40.23 | beford | yes |
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