| 00:05.26 | itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: well, it sounds like it wasn't 'packaged properly' before |
| 00:05.32 | itsnotabigtruck | it's just that this seems weird |
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| 01:32.49 | Enforcer | http://images.anandtech.com/doci/5724/Lumia900-0171.jpg <-- 900 doesnt say nokia on the back :/ |
| 01:34.20 | SpeedEvil | you mean you've got a fake? |
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| 02:15.18 | itsnotabigtruck | SpeedEvil: lol? |
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| 02:43.51 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.hackertyper.com/ |
| 02:43.58 | itsnotabigtruck | type in a whole bunch of nonsense and hit alt 3 times |
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| 06:34.47 | ciacon | I found a minor bug regarding Skype + Callendar. Skype contact is providing a birthday date. Though the birthday is on the 12th and editing the profile does show this correctly (though I can't alter the skype birthday), it is entered into my calendar on the 11th and can't be edited either... an oddity... |
| 06:35.32 | ciacon | which brings me to the question, is there a bugtracker and if so, where? |
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| 06:37.31 | jonni | there is no bugzilla avail anymore. |
| 06:39.45 | phako | ciacon: bah. Timezones suck |
| 06:41.20 | ciacon | phako: had not actually considered time zones, though I'd be surprised if that contact were in a different TZ... interestingly enough I noticed this phenomena, as another of my contacts has birthday on the 11th, and that date is displayed correctly throughout the UI |
| 06:42.45 | jonni | atleast there is no bug open for that, so my guess would be timezone too |
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| 07:05.02 | phako | getting the whole time-zone/birthday handling right was rather difficult. And apparently we missed something :-/ |
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| 07:16.07 | ciacon | programming with time is an art. especially if you want to do it right :D |
| 07:17.01 | SpeedEvil | It's prone to epoch fail. |
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| 09:03.31 | diorahman | Just helping my friend, would you mine trying this app: http://bit.ly/HkLLwC ? |
| 09:03.37 | diorahman | *mind |
| 09:03.51 | diorahman | LOL |
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| 10:03.35 | diorahman | Please, please, try this app: http://bit.ly/HkLLwC :-) give us some feedback :-) |
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| 10:22.44 | petteri | what app is that |
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| 10:34.22 | diorahman | petteri: An Unofficial TEDTalks Client for N9 |
| 10:35.13 | petteri | ok |
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| 11:13.34 | djszapi | Hey! Any qmake master thingie in here ? |
| 11:21.43 | macmaN | where can i get telnet or nc or socat for harmattan |
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| 11:31.06 | MFaro-Tusino | Can someone help with app packaging? |
| 11:31.25 | petteri | qtsdk will do it for you |
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| 11:32.41 | MFaro-Tusino | My app doesn't use qt |
| 11:32.46 | MFaro-Tusino | it is a python script |
| 11:33.55 | MFaro-Tusino | I just need the deb to extract the files to given folders |
| 11:34.22 | MFaro-Tusino | i have a tar.bz2 with a DEBIAN folder and the directories the app is to be installed to |
| 11:34.49 | MFaro-Tusino | I can package the app, install, but install doesn't run correctly, so i concluded the packaging is failing somewhere |
| 11:35.25 | DocScrutinizer | (birthday) dang, we've seen this in the felt 25th iteration now |
| 11:35.51 | petteri | MFaro-Tusino: you could make a simple app with qtsdk and compare the debian packaging |
| 11:36.39 | MFaro-Tusino | I know the file structure, used a empty app and package it to get the layout of debian folder and files in it etc |
| 11:36.56 | djszapi | MFaro-Tusino: what is the problem with install ? |
| 11:37.17 | MFaro-Tusino | one sec, i will get the exact output |
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| 11:40.52 | jaywink | MFaro-Tusino, check out pyside-assistant: MFaro-Tusino |
| 11:41.00 | jaywink | sorry http://wiki.meego.com/Documentation_for_pyside-assistant |
| 11:41.01 | jaywink | :D |
| 11:41.16 | MFaro-Tusino | i will thanks |
| 11:41.48 | MFaro-Tusino | The things is, the issues i have with the current package i made, i have fixed, but can't seem to create a package with it :/ |
| 11:43.00 | lizardo | MFaro-Tusino: if you are trying to install the package with the Application Manager UI (instead of dpkg -i) , you need to have "Maemo-Flags: visible" on DEBIAN/control otherwise it will reject the package |
| 11:44.19 | MFaro-Tusino | No, i have been using dpkg -i |
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| 11:46.26 | matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: you can check out CDBS: http://build-common.alioth.debian.org/ to do easy packages which just drops files in their folders |
| 11:46.56 | matrixx | There's some explanation here: http://matrixxreloaded.wordpress.com/2011/11/20/themes-for-harmattan-part-2-packaging-and-building/ |
| 11:47.15 | matrixx | the code piece in debian/rules is just two lines with CDBS |
| 11:47.42 | matrixx | very handy for harmattan theme packages :) |
| 11:49.32 | MFaro-Tusino | I was looking at that |
| 11:49.50 | MFaro-Tusino | tried to use the obs stuff, but scratch box failed for me so gave up on that method |
| 11:50.18 | matrixx | doesn't need OBS |
| 11:50.32 | matrixx | works also with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 11:50.58 | matrixx | only minus side is you have to add cdbs dependency to your package build dependencies |
| 11:52.16 | MFaro-Tusino | Looking into cdbs now |
| 11:52.20 | MFaro-Tusino | thanks for the tip |
| 11:53.40 | matrixx | I hope it works for you :) |
| 11:58.48 | djszapi | ouch, cdbs... |
| 12:00.23 | matrixx | djszapi: what's wrong with cdbs? |
| 12:01.40 | djszapi | matrixx: no control over what you do, and the boilerplate is not maintained sufficiently anymore. |
| 12:02.17 | matrixx | djszapi: I don't use it otherwise, only for packages which need to install some files, not build anything |
| 12:02.28 | MFaro-Tusino | right now, anything that can compile my app works for me hahha |
| 12:02.43 | matrixx | I think installing files is fairly trivial without active maintenance |
| 12:02.47 | matrixx | so works in my case |
| 12:04.13 | MFaro-Tusino | Matrixx: Can you help me with the .dsc file |
| 12:04.17 | MFaro-Tusino | eg, structure etc |
| 12:04.41 | matrixx | I think that should be generated with buildpackage |
| 12:05.09 | matrixx | but, I've created one from the scratch too and I can help |
| 12:06.38 | djszapi | matrixx: yes, it works for installation, but I would like to stick with two different technologies, if dh also works for that case. |
| 12:06.45 | djszapi | would not* |
| 12:06.47 | matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: you can check out this as a template: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=themechanger_0.0.2.dsc&package=themechanger&project=home%3Amatrixx%3Athemechanger&rev=b552f13e402f850ce57f8037d3ab7a73 |
| 12:06.53 | matrixx | only replace with your data |
| 12:07.19 | matrixx | the other hash in the Files section is md5 |
| 12:08.02 | matrixx | and the numbers between hash and tarball name are file sizes |
| 12:09.21 | matrixx | djszapi: one day you can show me how to do the same with dh :) |
| 12:10.29 | djszapi | matrixx: sorry, but I am out of Harmattan and debian packaging. :) |
| 12:10.47 | djszapi | Although, we got our first two KDE Apps working on Android, yay \o/ |
| 12:10.58 | matrixx | djszapi: oh, good for you ;) |
| 12:12.52 | MFaro-Tusino | every time i run make make sums i gt an error so i don't have checksums :/ |
| 12:16.12 | matrixx | luckily there's plenty of tools to create them |
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| 12:29.20 | MFaro-Tusino | @Matrixx: Can I send you my source code and you tell me what needs to be fixed? |
| 12:29.58 | matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: I can check it out later if you haven't figured it out, now I'm just about to go have dinner |
| 12:30.16 | MFaro-Tusino | thats okay, enjoy your meal |
| 12:30.19 | matrixx | thanks |
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| 12:48.43 | auenf | welp, a telstra bigpond branded n9 got the PR1.2 OTA update before my 'country variant' version :/ |
| 12:49.22 | matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: back |
| 12:49.44 | matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: I can take a look now if not yet sorted out |
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| 13:03.01 | MFaro-Tusino | WOO |
| 13:03.16 | MFaro-Tusino | Okay, well I installed the old package, and just edited a few things manually |
| 13:03.31 | MFaro-Tusino | It seems to work, but obviously, and end user won't edit the files |
| 13:03.41 | MFaro-Tusino | I can email you the source? |
| 13:05.34 | matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: sure, priv |
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| 13:47.51 | niqt | hi |
| 13:47.53 | niqt | I updated the qtsdk, now on n950 don't appears icon of development software, is a bug? |
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| 14:21.37 | auenf | "I have a problem with this "swipe" thing. I keep trying to do it on my Android device now :-(" |
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| 14:38.59 | GeneralAntilles | auenf, I try to swipe everywhere. |
| 14:39.05 | GeneralAntilles | iOS feels so inelegant without it. |
| 14:46.01 | tehdely | same |
| 14:46.05 | tehdely | i keep swiping on my iPad |
| 14:46.07 | tehdely | and wondering why it does nothing |
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| 14:48.11 | Khertan | Hi all ! |
| 14:50.05 | Khertan | does qt-components package could be replace by one made myself ? as if i do it myself, aegis will block the process due to different source, isn't it ? |
| 15:00.36 | itsnotabigtruck | anyone speculating yet on PR1.3 release date? |
| 15:06.12 | Khertan | itsnotabigtruck: at least 1.3-meego version of qt-components are released :) |
| 15:06.21 | Khertan | so one package is ready :) |
| 15:26.34 | itsnotabigtruck | Khertan: well, it's obviously close, the question though is when the whole thing is actually to be released |
| 15:27.16 | itsnotabigtruck | a lot of packages have had 1.3 branches for a while on gitorious |
| 15:28.34 | Khertan | python -m 'import random;print '%s,%s,%s' % (random.randint(1,12), random.randint(1,31), random.randint(2012, 2018))' |
| 15:28.41 | Khertan | should give you the answer |
| 15:29.08 | Khertan | why not after 2018 ? because Nazi strike back from the moon |
| 15:29.09 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 15:29.13 | Khertan | (ironsky.net) |
| 15:29.46 | Khertan | want to see it !!!!! |
| 15:31.43 | Tronic | already did. |
| 15:32.15 | Tronic | Great movie, even if not very, ummh-- politically correct :) |
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| 15:36.50 | Khertan | Tronic: there is no place to see it near my home yet |
| 15:39.37 | Tronic | You should contact your theater and ask for it. Apparently the cinemas are quite skeptical towards non-Hollywood movies :/ |
| 15:41.10 | Khertan | specially in france |
| 15:41.22 | Tronic | You can also DEMAND it here: http://www.ironsky.net/site/support/how-to-support/ |
| 15:41.28 | Khertan | already done :) |
| 15:41.35 | Tronic | ... but contacting an independent cinema directly might work better :) |
| 15:50.00 | Khertan | yeah ... just need one ... Near home :) |
| 15:50.12 | Khertan | there is so few independant theater in france |
| 15:58.49 | Khertan | oh my god ... how developper can trust publish.ovi.com |
| 15:59.11 | Khertan | i didn't have the same number of sales for an apps in summary and details view ... |
| 16:02.36 | Khertan | for a same price, i got different revenue depending on country ? |
| 16:03.04 | itsnotabigtruck | Khertan: the pricing is based on 'tiers' that are different prices in different countries |
| 16:03.45 | Khertan | yeah it s 25% to 88% |
| 16:03.51 | Khertan | a bit high |
| 16:03.55 | Khertan | differences |
| 16:07.13 | Khertan | whoah i just understand ... |
| 16:07.20 | Khertan | you set a price point for a app |
| 16:07.33 | Khertan | so it s not the same price for everyone |
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| 17:27.25 | phako | ugh. are those duicontrolpanel settings things generated from XML supposed to look like shit? |
| 17:28.29 | itsnotabigtruck | phako: the stock control panels don't look half bad, so i assume not |
| 17:29.12 | phako | those aren't generated from XML |
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| 19:01.53 | piggz | hi..has anyone seen this problem before..when i start my app with the binary, it works ok, but when i start it with invoker, it cant find the main.qml because it seems QApplication::applicationFilePath returns /home/user instead of /opt/.../bin/ |
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| 19:17.23 | x29a | piggz: have you set DESTDIR in your .pro file? |
| 19:17.28 | x29a | or target? |
| 19:17.52 | piggz | x29a: thx for getting back...just fixed it though |
| 19:18.24 | x29a | how? |
| 19:18.53 | piggz | it was one of 2 things, modifying a qml file, perhaps making the cache rebuild...or, replacing the qmlapplicationviewer with one from a new clean application |
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| 20:20.53 | itsnotabigtruck | wow, like a month in, my usb lids finally arrived |
| 20:20.59 | itsnotabigtruck | but i still can't figure out how to remove the old one |
| 20:23.39 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Hi there, you got a question from me on #n9 :) |
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| 20:23.50 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Probably you are almost the only one talking at this hour :) |
| 20:25.09 | javispedro | baaa. |
| 20:25.38 | DrGrov | Well, I put the question here then as well |
| 20:26.04 | DrGrov | Gotta wonder about roaming. I am travelling tomorrow to another country for one day and I am thinking that what might be the best way for me to avoid data roaming fees. Should I turn off internet connectivity completely or make sure I have disabled the roaming option? |
| 20:26.58 | javispedro | it depends on the network |
| 20:27.05 | javispedro | in any case, not a network guy. |
| 20:27.59 | itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: tbh i don't know, and you already kinda got an answer |
| 20:28.07 | DrGrov | javispedro: Ok. I just thought that disabling roaming option would be enough. Ah, there is the option to have background connections allowed. Well, I have that turned off and then I still turn off roaming. |
| 20:28.18 | itsnotabigtruck | i'd recommend deleting the data connection (apn) |
| 20:28.29 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Well yes, I got an answer but it actually did not make any sense what so ever but no worries :) |
| 20:28.47 | javispedro | DrGrov: well, I know of at least one network that always shows up the roaming warning even when it is not roaming. not sure if a misdetection in the other direction is possible. |
| 20:29.21 | DrGrov | javispedro: Ah, which network is this? That sounds strange I must say. |
| 20:29.25 | itsnotabigtruck | also i don't understand why it's so dead right now |
| 20:29.29 | itsnotabigtruck | it's only 8pm zulu |
| 20:29.37 | itsnotabigtruck | this should be like prime irc time |
| 20:29.42 | javispedro | the party is on another channel |
| 20:30.04 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Yeah, I am wondering too why the sudden silence over at #n9 |
| 20:30.15 | itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: #n9 is always quiet |
| 20:30.20 | DrGrov | Well, I will do a search for it to make sure I get it right. If not shit happens LOL |
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| 20:30.39 | javispedro | DrGrov: couldn't find english website, but this is the company http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepephone |
| 20:30.41 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: True, it is always like a ghost town |
| 20:30.41 | itsnotabigtruck | and like what? there aren't very many parties on freenode :p |
| 20:30.51 | itsnotabigtruck | too many stuffy people talking about stuffy subjects |
| 20:30.56 | javispedro | afaiu, the issue is because that operator is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator |
| 20:31.46 | DrGrov | javispedro: Ah ok. A Spanish one then. Here in Finland I have heard the same thing with Elisa - Saunalahti since Saunalahti is a "guest" of Elisas network but still a daughter company but it can complain about roaming. |
| 20:33.33 | DrGrov | If I turn off the internet connectivity in Settings on the N9, should that not be enough? I mean, it could not connect then to the internet yes? |
| 20:33.42 | DrGrov | Only using WLAN |
| 20:33.44 | javispedro | yep |
| 20:34.05 | javispedro | you can just put the apn icd on non-automatic connection |
| 20:34.29 | DrGrov | I have now the APN as a automatic connection but it does not use it unless it needs. |
| 20:34.46 | DrGrov | But probably better yes that I put it to a non-automatic connection the APN I am using |
| 20:35.19 | DrGrov | Will it automatically switch it back to automatic connection when I use it when I get back home? |
| 20:35.39 | javispedro | no |
| 20:35.54 | javispedro | but you can do it on your own without dying of exhaustion =) |
| 20:36.01 | DrGrov | Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me :) |
| 20:36.29 | DrGrov | I just wonder one last thing about this whole internet connectivity... If I turn it off and then turn it back on when I get home, will it still remember the APN and all the correct settings? |
| 20:36.37 | DrGrov | Or do I need to do them again from scratch? |
| 20:37.43 | javispedro | if you just do the disable auto-connection thing, yes, it will remember everything |
| 20:38.04 | javispedro | (because removing the apn will, of course, make it forget everything) |
| 20:38.11 | DrGrov | javispedro: Ok, thanks. I will do that then and for the safe side disable roaming. |
| 20:38.38 | DrGrov | I mean just turning off the internet connectivity blue button in the Settings... |
| 20:39.23 | javispedro | well, as you wish :) |
| 20:39.46 | javispedro | in any case, remember that the appereance of a 2 or 2.5G ... icon is not an indicative that you are connected to anything |
| 20:39.47 | DrGrov | If I turn it off the blue internet connectivity button thingie, that will still make it remember everything yes? |
| 20:39.52 | javispedro | yep |
| 20:40.20 | DrGrov | Yes, I know. It is only an indication of the network, when it is blueish and constantly blue then it transfers data |
| 20:40.50 | DrGrov | Good, I hate to delete the APN and restart. Good to know that disabling the internet connectivity blue button is enough. Hate to do that again from scratch |
| 20:47.40 | itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: who cares... |
| 20:52.30 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Who cares about what? |
| 20:53.18 | kozzi_ | noodles |
| 20:54.26 | sahib_ | I like noodles, and care a great deal about them. |
| 20:54.44 | javispedro | who cares about caring about noodles? |
| 20:55.09 | sahib_ | Indeed. |
| 20:55.30 | kozzi_ | so much hate |
| 20:55.40 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 20:55.51 | itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: the APN thing, you seem to be going to great lengths not to delete the apn entry |
| 20:56.01 | itsnotabigtruck | when it's like 2 lines of information that can easily be reentered |
| 20:56.06 | itsnotabigtruck | it's just making a big deal out of nothing |
| 20:57.01 | javispedro | depending on your provider, it could be up to 6! |
| 20:57.03 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Well, why would I delete it? Because Nokia did it fucking impossible to enable a safe and sound way of disabling roaming and/or internet connectivity and the bloody fucker can still connect itself even if I specifically asked it not to? |
| 20:57.41 | DrGrov | Yes, I should wash my mouth with soap. |
| 20:57.43 | javispedro | DrGrov: I am not still sure if the option is "not safe" |
| 20:58.03 | javispedro | I mean, as said, I know of errors in one direction, but that does not mean errors in the other direction exist |
| 20:58.04 | DrGrov | javispedro: No problem, I will figure it out eventually |
| 20:58.11 | DrGrov | javispedro: :) |
| 20:58.12 | javispedro | just have the 10eur. ready =) |
| 20:58.34 | DrGrov | Yeah, I have it in the backpocket so I can shove it in if need :) |
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| 21:00.46 | kozzi_ | wow, no qt5 for symbian |
| 21:01.01 | kozzi_ | elop must really hate symbian |
| 21:02.06 | DrGrov | javispedro: I think your option is correct. I will have the current APN to be as not to use automatically. |
| 21:02.12 | DrGrov | javispedro: That solves the case. |
| 21:02.50 | itsnotabigtruck | also, yay, new USB lid installed |
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| 21:02.55 | itsnotabigtruck | the top of my N9 looks awesome again |
| 21:05.05 | DocScrutinizer | USB lid? |
| 21:05.10 | DocScrutinizer | aaah |
| 21:05.51 | DocScrutinizer | that flimsy flap |
| 21:06.07 | DocScrutinizer | almost forgot about that thing |
| 21:08.53 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Hi there Doc. Let me know, you got a solution to my roaming question? I think you are on top of the situation in every aspect. |
| 21:09.37 | DocScrutinizer | yay |
| 21:10.10 | DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: I'm quite opposite of "on the top of situation" today - caught a flu or sth |
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| 21:11.07 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Damn, sorry to hear that. I got it last week, it is a PITA |
| 21:11.19 | DocScrutinizer | so all my statements are just fever ideas. Anyway here they are: "allow roaming" enables your modem to log in to a network that's "alien to the SIM" |
| 21:11.28 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Still up for me explaining it for me the roaming thing? I am not sure how do it properly. |
| 21:11.34 | DocScrutinizer | disabling this option should reliably block all roaming |
| 21:11.40 | DrGrov | Oh sorry, I wrote already before I saw what you wrote. |
| 21:11.52 | DocScrutinizer | np, I do this all the time |
| 21:12.04 | DrGrov | It is the damn blue button that should not be blue and it is disabled? |
| 21:12.18 | DrGrov | Fuck I hate colors on phones, why not just fucking ON or OFF? LOL |
| 21:12.38 | DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: no idea, I never had the needed microSIM to test N9 |
| 21:12.51 | DrGrov | Could I turn off "Internet connection" as well only? And still keep the APN settings? |
| 21:13.08 | DrGrov | Or are the settings connected somehow with the current internet connection when it is enabled? |
| 21:14.05 | DocScrutinizer | turning off "internet connection" for me means it won't connect to any internet network. This may or may not affect if the modem actually logs in to a "foreign" APN |
| 21:15.04 | DocScrutinizer | nope, APN settings are connected to the special "packet" account in internet networks |
| 21:15.23 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Ok, so I will not lose the APN settings anyhow? That is a relief |
| 21:16.21 | sahib_ | does anyone know where to find libmeegotouchcore0 et al for linux (x86)? |
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| 21:17.31 | sahib_ | n/m, found it |
| 21:18.05 | DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: first of all you shouldn't accept any configuration SMS that for sure will be sent by any foreign network your device is roaming to |
| 21:20.11 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Ok, I will not download them then. I am quite sure I am not going to get one. Probably just a SMS telling me the cost of using their network bla bla. |
| 21:20.49 | DrGrov | Damn this, it is difficult to get the roaming thing under control somehow. |
| 21:20.55 | DrGrov | Probably just overthinking as usual :) |
| 21:22.22 | DocScrutinizer | you're not downloading SMS, they pop up on your device. And each network provider sends configuration SMS to each new roaming device they encounter. One for MMS, one for internet... You'll receive them anyway, just do NOT hit "OK" when device asks you to "store" or whatever |
| 21:23.59 | DocScrutinizer | as that most likely will actually overwrite your APN settings (unless it creates an auxiliary GPRS network and keeps your primary one) |
| 21:26.20 | javispedro | never got one of those =) |
| 21:27.33 | javispedro | providers here are just waiting for you to mess up and unwantedly hit the "connect" button, other than that, they do not move their asses for anything.. |
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| 21:59.26 | itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: that's strange |
| 21:59.35 | itsnotabigtruck | is that a thing on the german/other european networks |
| 22:17.57 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/rtdpj/the_fallout_alphabet/c48jh2o?context=1 |
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| 23:06.12 | javispedro | sighs as woody managed to bring his meego-is-useless fight to the council thread |
| 23:06.24 | javispedro | either the guy wants to get flamed, or does never learn |
| 23:06.26 | javispedro | gives up |
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| 23:19.41 | javispedro | trolls some more before really giving up |
| 23:19.55 | itsnotabigtruck | how many people have been nominated so far |
| 23:20.10 | javispedro | too many too count, will surely be an election |
| 23:20.35 | itsnotabigtruck | it's necessary that there be enough to exclude people trying to provoke a spat between N900 and N9 users |
| 23:20.42 | itsnotabigtruck | *exclude candidates |
| 23:21.29 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: wait, I'll give you sth to moan about even more |
| 23:22.13 | javispedro | evil =) |
| 23:22.19 | DocScrutinizer | as HARM, no matter how shiny it might be, is actually useless for NIT die-hards |
| 23:22.32 | javispedro | psch |
| 23:22.46 | DocScrutinizer | and MAEMO council election definitely is unrelated to HARM |
| 23:23.12 | DocScrutinizer | afaik it's still MEEGO HARM |
| 23:23.51 | itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: we all know what you think about harmattan, no need to whine about it for the umpteenth time |
| 23:24.05 | javispedro | the problem is that the harmattan hatters are getting very vocal |
| 23:24.08 | javispedro | and there WILL be blood |
| 23:24.19 | DocScrutinizer | you're asking for an argue? you ca earn a kick instead |
| 23:24.50 | javispedro | specially when they realize that e.g. build.obs.maemo.org doesn't exactly host a file sharing site =) |
| 23:24.52 | itsnotabigtruck | it's an iteration of maemo, maemo.org is the main place to talk about it, it's definitely related |
| 23:25.26 | DocScrutinizer | you're adding points on your kick account |
| 23:25.43 | DocScrutinizer | blaming me for whining when I state the obvious |
| 23:25.51 | DocScrutinizer | while you claim BS |
| 23:26.09 | javispedro | see how there will be blood? |
| 23:26.17 | javispedro | I fully side with itsnotabigtruck here |
| 23:26.22 | javispedro | heck, look at this channel's users |
| 23:26.27 | javispedro | and compare with #maemo |
| 23:26.31 | javispedro | *userlist |
| 23:26.47 | DocScrutinizer | indeed, I get furious when somebody jumps train on FMC and then tells me TMO is the place to discuss meego |
| 23:27.13 | javispedro | TMO is a place to discuss BS. Therefore, it is fully able to house discussions about Harmattan. PERIOD. |
| 23:27.39 | DocScrutinizer | so what? and maemo council is responsible for meego now? |
| 23:27.43 | javispedro | I don't think that harmattan discussions on TMO will either increase or decrease the SNR. Not when they're already there fwiw. |
| 23:28.09 | DrGrov | Well now boys, take it easy :) |
| 23:29.10 | DocScrutinizer | this notion of texrat that "maemo council should guide the maemo community into a bright meego/whatever future" - HARRHARR |
| 23:29.16 | ieatlint | this sounds like an argument that needs to be solved by knives or copious amounts of alcohol |
| 23:29.47 | javispedro | ... right after crashing the tizen conference ... |
| 23:29.51 | javispedro | ;P |
| 23:29.54 | ieatlint | haha |
| 23:29.59 | ieatlint | i'm going to that :P |
| 23:30.17 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Would you mind giving me op status for a minute or even two? |
| 23:30.33 | DocScrutinizer | what for? |
| 23:30.54 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: I was hoping to be evil... But you already saw what I was aiming for ;-) |
| 23:30.59 | DocScrutinizer | if you wanna kick me for trolling, I'm already sold to the idea |
| 23:31.05 | DrGrov | Daaaaamn you DocScrutinizer |
| 23:31.12 | DrGrov | No no no, not you. Someone else |
| 23:32.37 | DrGrov | So, you wouldn't mind me getting op status for a minute? |
| 23:33.26 | DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Nah, sorry about that. I am too worked up. Can not even sleep anymore goddamnit |
| 23:33.39 | javispedro | /kickall |
| 23:34.18 | javispedro | I think it's the best time to read an article titled "Google Isn't So Bad After All" |
| 23:35.11 | ieatlint | to quote a friend of mine (and ex-googler), google has shown us how a company can not be evil, but still be a huge dick |
| 23:35.33 | DrGrov | WTF? Google is not so bad after all? |
| 23:35.55 | javispedro | http://pandodaily.com/2012/03/24/why-dont-be-evil-is-evil-and-why-google-isnt-so-bad/ |
| 23:36.03 | DrGrov | Disregard my future comments, I am way too tired but can not sleep |
| 23:36.19 | DrGrov | Have the trip in less than 5h30min but nah, sleep is not coming |
| 23:36.26 | DrGrov | F*******ck |
| 23:36.28 | javispedro | "disregard my future comments" is pretty much usual for IRC =9 |
| 23:36.58 | DrGrov | javispedro: Thanks for the link, I might click it if I find a bit of sleepy reading in that article :) |
| 23:37.15 | javispedro | tl;dr |
| 23:37.18 | DrGrov | Well, yes... Yes, regard not my future comments but my current ones |
| 23:37.31 | DrGrov | Huh? tl;dr? What is this modern slang? |
| 23:37.35 | DrGrov | I must be getting old... |
| 23:37.42 | javispedro | modern? |
| 23:37.52 | javispedro | it is probably older than me |
| 23:43.10 | DrGrov | Well, thanks for the talking. I gotta go and try to get some sleep at least. |
| 23:44.30 | javispedro | I should design some flags for the upcoming maemo.org civil war =) |
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