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| 00:12.01 | itsnotabigtruck | faenil: have you reset it yet? |
| 00:12.10 | itsnotabigtruck | i'd recommend using flasher to sanitize it |
| 00:12.13 | itsnotabigtruck | it has a secure erase option |
| 00:12.23 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm not sure whether the reset option is to be trusted, it's for casuals |
| 00:14.41 | faenil | itsnotabigtruck: yeah that's what I meant, but I guess the settings things does the same, it's taking ages |
| 00:15.47 | itsnotabigtruck | faenil: it doesn't, afaik it runs a series of scripts to remove certain types of data |
| 00:15.54 | itsnotabigtruck | it doesn't secure erase, and it doesn't get rid of all data |
| 00:16.10 | itsnotabigtruck | you really want to use the flasher option, if i understand correctly |
| 00:16.20 | faenil | mm ok |
| 00:16.25 | faenil | isn't there any oneclickflasher for 1.1? |
| 00:16.50 | itsnotabigtruck | i think so... |
| 00:17.00 | itsnotabigtruck | if you have the image file you can just use the current flasher with it |
| 00:17.07 | faenil | I dont.. |
| 00:17.09 | itsnotabigtruck | oneclickflasher = flasher + an image in a self-extractor |
| 00:17.10 | faenil | I updated via oat |
| 00:17.18 | faenil | yeah I know, plus a bat file |
| 00:18.29 | faenil | but I could not find neither the image nor the oneclick for N9 (if not via navifirm |
| 00:18.30 | itsnotabigtruck | since it's a 950 why not just put 1.2 on it |
| 00:18.37 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, this is an n9? |
| 00:18.41 | faenil | no, I'm selling the n9 |
| 00:18.44 | itsnotabigtruck | use navifirm |
| 00:18.50 | faenil | and keeping the N950, which I can't sell coz of agreement |
| 00:18.51 | itsnotabigtruck | :p |
| 00:19.06 | faenil | navifirm is windows-only, isn't it? |
| 00:19.18 | itsnotabigtruck | then download the script (admiral0?) made |
| 00:19.38 | faenil | mmm |
| 00:19.58 | itsnotabigtruck | i tested navifirm 0.1 on mono 2.0, it worked except that mono defaults to not allow any ca certificates at all |
| 00:20.09 | itsnotabigtruck | meaning ssl on mono doesn't work without extraordinary measures |
| 00:20.23 | faenil | mm |
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| 00:20.30 | itsnotabigtruck | because the tool to install certificates into mono doesn't even ship with mono :/ |
| 00:20.36 | faenil | lol |
| 00:20.54 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, find the script and use that |
| 00:20.56 | itsnotabigtruck | actually, hold on |
| 00:21.00 | djszapi | faenil: you can extract it any time |
| 00:21.06 | itsnotabigtruck | there's a website that does the same thing as navifirm now |
| 00:21.09 | djszapi | you can grab the pure contents. |
| 00:21.19 | faenil | djszapi: what are you talking about? |
| 00:21.36 | djszapi | well, the image you can download is self-contained |
| 00:21.43 | djszapi | I mean the binary that you just need to run |
| 00:21.45 | faenil | yeah I know that |
| 00:21.51 | djszapi | what is the problem then ? |
| 00:22.00 | faenil | that I can't find 1.1 image online |
| 00:22.02 | djszapi | Also, I would just reflash it to stock state |
| 00:22.02 | faenil | :P |
| 00:22.09 | djszapi | since that is how people buy phones anyway |
| 00:22.10 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.btusers.com.ar/nan/nokia/releases.php?id=1957201&rid=6883750564&pid=4823499691&firm=22.2011.44.2 |
| 00:22.15 | itsnotabigtruck | faenil ^ there you go |
| 00:22.38 | faenil | thanks itsnotabigtruck, I did not know there was a website now for that :) |
| 00:22.49 | faenil | djszapi: there's no 1.1 image online :P |
| 00:22.52 | faenil | only on navifirm |
| 00:22.55 | djszapi | you do not need |
| 00:23.08 | faenil | ? |
| 00:23.09 | djszapi | you need a one time flasher if it is not already PR1.2 on your phone |
| 00:23.15 | djszapi | well, why would you need ? |
| 00:23.23 | djszapi | why not use the flasher they give officially ? |
| 00:23.26 | faenil | because I need to use the flashed with erase secure option |
| 00:23.28 | djszapi | it is the state how people buy phones |
| 00:23.33 | djszapi | why would you ? |
| 00:23.47 | faenil | djszapi, you're cryptic some times :D |
| 00:23.54 | faenil | tell me what do you suggest to do |
| 00:23.59 | faenil | suggest doing |
| 00:24.01 | djszapi | flash everything |
| 00:24.08 | djszapi | that is how people buy stuff, no ? |
| 00:24.14 | faenil | you flash "an image" on "something" |
| 00:24.17 | faenil | something = N) |
| 00:24.17 | djszapi | phones do not get into shops with secure erase |
| 00:24.18 | faenil | N9 |
| 00:24.24 | faenil | image = where is it? |
| 00:24.41 | djszapi | why not use the Nokia software for flashing ? |
| 00:24.46 | Sazpaimon | [19:18] <faenil> and keeping the N950, which I can't sell coz of agreement |
| 00:24.48 | Sazpaimon | shhhh |
| 00:24.56 | Sazpaimon | *they* dont have to know about that |
| 00:24.56 | faenil | lol |
| 00:24.59 | faenil | :D |
| 00:25.19 | faenil | djszapi: ok, so you mean nokia suite |
| 00:25.26 | djszapi | Sazpaimon: they do not, but what do you say if they ask back ? |
| 00:25.34 | Sazpaimon | djszapi, here's 500 euro |
| 00:25.38 | djszapi | faenil: whatever official glashing |
| 00:25.41 | djszapi | flashing* |
| 00:25.44 | Sazpaimon | which i assume you got, and then some, for selling it |
| 00:25.45 | faenil | djszapi, anyway, factory phones don't need secure erase, and guess why, because none should have used that phone before XD |
| 00:25.52 | djszapi | not sure how this secure erase came to the picture |
| 00:26.17 | faenil | it's an option for maemo/harmattan flasher |
| 00:26.23 | djszapi | Sazpaimon: 500 EUR what ? |
| 00:26.31 | djszapi | faenil: why would you use that ? |
| 00:26.35 | faenil | since I'm selling the N9, I want to be sure data is deleted as reliably as possible |
| 00:26.36 | djszapi | instead of reflashing everything ? |
| 00:26.36 | Sazpaimon | djszapi, isnt that what nokia is charging for lost N950s? |
| 00:26.41 | faenil | argh XD |
| 00:26.58 | djszapi | faenil: you wanna reflash everything then |
| 00:27.01 | djszapi | if you wanna make sure. |
| 00:27.06 | Sazpaimon | which kinda sucks |
| 00:27.08 | faenil | yes I want to! |
| 00:27.20 | faenil | problem is, how from Linux? |
| 00:27.22 | Sazpaimon | what happens if your four year old flushes it down the toilt |
| 00:27.24 | djszapi | Sazpaimon: how do you know, url by hand ? |
| 00:27.25 | faenil | you said, use nokia suite |
| 00:27.34 | faenil | and I asked does nokia suite use secure erase while flashing? |
| 00:27.46 | djszapi | no real clue |
| 00:27.55 | djszapi | but I would suppose so. |
| 00:28.03 | Sazpaimon | djszapi, its somewhere in the NDA |
| 00:28.03 | faenil | ok, so that's why we wanted to use harmattan flasher + latest image |
| 00:28.04 | faenil | :) |
| 00:28.10 | djszapi | since anybody can sell out the device, no ? |
| 00:28.15 | djszapi | why ? |
| 00:28.18 | djszapi | that is the hackery |
| 00:28.21 | djszapi | instead of the official way |
| 00:28.27 | faenil | djszapi: the NDS says if you lose/break or whatever and they ask it back you have to pay 500 |
| 00:28.37 | faenil | djszapi: the official way is nokia suite |
| 00:28.54 | faenil | but is there anything for linux? and does it erase securely? we don't know |
| 00:28.57 | djszapi | just for putting it clear: |
| 00:29.09 | djszapi | if you do not use the official way, your friend is not gonna have warranty |
| 00:29.14 | djszapi | are you sure you wanna that ? |
| 00:29.26 | djszapi | you wanna void the warranty for him/her ? |
| 00:29.57 | djszapi | Sazpaimon: link, please ? |
| 00:29.57 | faenil | itsnotabigtruck: my PC is not in the available list on the website :| |
| 00:30.06 | djszapi | Sazpaimon: I do not remember I signed such a thing |
| 00:30.11 | faenil | no I don't |
| 00:30.31 | djszapi | navifirm: warranty void |
| 00:30.41 | faenil | but the image is the official one |
| 00:30.48 | djszapi | does not matter |
| 00:30.49 | faenil | why should it void the warrany? |
| 00:30.53 | djszapi | the procedure is not the official |
| 00:30.56 | djszapi | man |
| 00:30.56 | faenil | flasher is official |
| 00:30.59 | faenil | image is official |
| 00:30.59 | faenil | :D |
| 00:31.01 | djszapi | I went through this many times |
| 00:31.05 | djszapi | even with a Nokia manager. |
| 00:31.07 | faenil | I trust you, it just sucks :D |
| 00:31.16 | djszapi | he confirmed manually what the flasher writes |
| 00:31.23 | djszapi | read the flasher when you use the navifirm image |
| 00:31.30 | itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: i should have known you were going to launch into a tirade about that |
| 00:31.32 | itsnotabigtruck | faenil: just do it |
| 00:31.38 | faenil | ahahah :D |
| 00:31.40 | itsnotabigtruck | there's a difference between official and proper |
| 00:31.44 | itsnotabigtruck | flashing the image isn't official but it is proper |
| 00:31.50 | faenil | XD |
| 00:31.55 | itsnotabigtruck | and nokia has a strange concept of official |
| 00:32.06 | djszapi | ok sure. ... |
| 00:32.12 | faenil | oh I forgot one thing, the phone doesn't have warranty since I have won it at devdays XD |
| 00:32.21 | djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: you could have a bit more respect |
| 00:32.33 | itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: and you could have a bit less pedantry |
| 00:32.33 | faenil | djszapi: no problem, there's no warrany :D |
| 00:32.39 | itsnotabigtruck | it drives the entire channel nuts |
| 00:32.39 | djszapi | saying "tirade" instead of "thanks for mentioning, I did not know" is quite arrogant |
| 00:33.09 | djszapi | the false things you spread is way utterly cumbersome |
| 00:33.32 | djszapi | read the damn flasher, and ask a Nokia manager as well if you cannot read |
| 00:33.34 | djszapi | what could I say ? |
| 00:33.45 | faenil | :) stop it guys ;) |
| 00:33.58 | faenil | there's no warranty, so who cares :) |
| 00:34.24 | djszapi | faenil: well, it bugs me if that is the respect if I try to help with stating facts to get more information: "tirade". |
| 00:35.19 | faenil | let's not start any discussion, you can fix that in private ;) |
| 00:35.20 | djszapi | I cannot even imagine how there is no warranty |
| 00:35.22 | djszapi | you lost that earlier ? |
| 00:35.35 | faenil | nope, I won it at devdays |
| 00:35.39 | faenil | since I won it, it has no warrany |
| 00:35.50 | djszapi | well, mine has, and I got it there. |
| 00:36.04 | djszapi | 2 years iirc in Europe. |
| 00:36.07 | faenil | how? can I check that ? I asked quim gil iirc |
| 00:36.21 | faenil | and he said there's a "friends" warranty |
| 00:36.27 | faenil | they'll try to fix it, but there's no warrany |
| 00:36.31 | djszapi | did you sign anything about losing the warranty you are entitled for ? |
| 00:36.35 | djszapi | to* |
| 00:36.38 | faenil | nope |
| 00:36.44 | faenil | but there's no receipt |
| 00:36.45 | djszapi | then you have warranty |
| 00:36.58 | faenil | djszapi: but that's what I was told from a Nokia guy... |
| 00:37.09 | djszapi | you do not even have the paper to the phone ? |
| 00:37.18 | faenil | paper to the phone? |
| 00:37.31 | faenil | what do you mean? |
| 00:37.35 | djszapi | when you got, what the warranty conditions and so on |
| 00:37.39 | faenil | I was just given the box :) |
| 00:37.43 | faenil | oh, let me see |
| 00:38.05 | djszapi | at any rate: if you have no warranty, then you can hack the simple procedure out |
| 00:38.18 | djszapi | there is no real risk about losing any warranty |
| 00:38.31 | djszapi | what price do you sell it out ? |
| 00:39.09 | faenil | crap it's written in finnish or don't know what D |
| 00:39.09 | faenil | XD |
| 00:39.15 | faenil | 330 |
| 00:40.20 | itsnotabigtruck | the fact of the matter is that it's an official nokia tool, an official nokia image, and in any case no one cares how the phone was flashed as long as it wasn't killed in the process |
| 00:40.26 | itsnotabigtruck | there's the company line, and there's actuality |
| 00:40.41 | djszapi | pfff |
| 00:40.49 | faenil | guys, please |
| 00:40.56 | djszapi | is that really how you would behave if you sell out a phone ? |
| 00:40.58 | itsnotabigtruck | the company line is that so much as touching your phone without bringing it to an authorized Nokia Care(SM) outlet could potentially kill you/laser your cat/explode the planet/etc. |
| 00:41.01 | djszapi | take all the risks possible ? |
| 00:41.17 | djszapi | and tell the guy, oopsie I hacked the device inside and out |
| 00:41.22 | djszapi | but you surely have gurantee |
| 00:41.23 | itsnotabigtruck | well, guess what, there isn't even such a thing as an authorized Nokia Care(SM) outlet in much of the world |
| 00:41.30 | djszapi | I hope I never have a business with you :) |
| 00:41.45 | faenil | please both stop it please |
| 00:41.53 | faenil | don't start attacking one another |
| 00:42.06 | itsnotabigtruck | suppose faenil downloads nokia care suite and uses that instead |
| 00:42.18 | itsnotabigtruck | you'd say that's verboten and warranty voiding too |
| 00:42.19 | djszapi | why would he ? |
| 00:42.22 | djszapi | he has no guarantee |
| 00:42.24 | djszapi | he has just said... |
| 00:42.30 | itsnotabigtruck | it's also the precise same program that said Nokia Care(SM) outlet would use to flash it |
| 00:42.45 | djszapi | except the layer on top of that |
| 00:42.59 | djszapi | for which they do take the guarantee, but everything else. |
| 00:43.11 | djszapi | anyway, it is not hard, basic reading knowledge needed. |
| 00:43.25 | faenil | okay guys I'm out |
| 00:43.30 | djszapi | too |
| 00:43.31 | faenil | seen this situation too many time |
| 00:43.32 | faenil | s |
| 00:45.39 | *** part/#harmattan djszapi (~lpapp@plexyplanet.org) |
| 00:50.11 | faenil | mmm the n9 already knows the date after reset |
| 00:50.13 | faenil | is that normal? |
| 00:50.15 | faenil | :) |
| 00:50.23 | faenil | radio date receiver? :D |
| 00:50.35 | ieatlint | is there a sim card in it?\ |
| 00:50.40 | faenil | no |
| 00:50.51 | itsnotabigtruck | the clock probably keeps going across a reset |
| 00:51.04 | itsnotabigtruck | also, like i mentioned, the settings menu reset isn't very comprehensive |
| 00:51.04 | faenil | mm ok :) strange, but ok :) |
| 00:51.10 | ieatlint | yeah, the clock is done outside of firmware |
| 00:51.31 | faenil | argh itsnotabigtruck, don't tell me that, I don't know how to download that freaking fw XD |
| 00:51.44 | itsnotabigtruck | faenil: i pasted a link earlier |
| 00:51.51 | itsnotabigtruck | to a site that's like a web version of navifirm |
| 00:51.57 | faenil | and I told you my PC is not there :D |
| 00:52.01 | faenil | product code |
| 00:52.07 | itsnotabigtruck | oops right |
| 00:52.09 | itsnotabigtruck | let me double check |
| 00:52.11 | itsnotabigtruck | which PC is it? |
| 00:52.37 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm guessing that site is using the same web interface navifirm uses |
| 00:52.47 | itsnotabigtruck | so that's fairly weird |
| 00:53.00 | faenil | 059K755 |
| 00:53.19 | itsnotabigtruck | ohhhh |
| 00:53.21 | itsnotabigtruck | i know what happened |
| 00:53.26 | itsnotabigtruck | i linked you to PR1.1.1 |
| 00:53.29 | itsnotabigtruck | which is only for me&a units |
| 00:54.11 | faenil | :) |
| 00:54.22 | faenil | like to make jokes! :D |
| 00:54.27 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.btusers.com.ar/nan/nokia/releases.php?id=1957258&rid=6730627857&pid=4823499691&firm=20.2011.40.4 |
| 00:54.41 | itsnotabigtruck | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.51 | faenil | yup |
| 00:54.55 | faenil | norwey, lol |
| 00:54.58 | faenil | norway |
| 00:55.14 | itsnotabigtruck | and yeah, it |
| 00:55.19 | itsnotabigtruck | 's a gigantic file |
| 00:55.32 | itsnotabigtruck | i really need to quit missing the apostrophe key |
| 00:56.01 | faenil | yeah :( |
| 00:56.08 | faenil | and servers are not very fast atm it seems |
| 00:56.18 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, sometimes it can be really really slow |
| 00:56.25 | faenil | ouch |
| 00:56.36 | faenil | I think I'll flash it befor meeting the guy tomorrow morning... |
| 00:56.51 | itsnotabigtruck | there's a separate server for nokia care suite |
| 00:57.14 | itsnotabigtruck | let me see if i can get figure out how to get a link |
| 00:57.44 | faenil | about the flasher... |
| 00:58.05 | faenil | flasher -f imagepath --erase-mmc=secure -F ? |
| 00:58.31 | itsnotabigtruck | nope, the cs and nsu servers return the same urls |
| 00:58.40 | itsnotabigtruck | but you might want this one too |
| 00:58.41 | itsnotabigtruck | http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/0812/6514769374/EE346493_DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4.NORTHERNEUROPE_EMMC_NORTHERNEUROPE.bin |
| 00:58.49 | itsnotabigtruck | that's the emmc image for northern europe |
| 00:59.08 | itsnotabigtruck | you can probably flash it with a different emmc if you want, most of that space is for regional maps |
| 00:59.16 | faenil | oh crap :O |
| 00:59.30 | faenil | I think I don't have time for that |
| 00:59.35 | faenil | what if I don't flash it? |
| 00:59.41 | faenil | what's remaining on the phone? |
| 00:59.50 | itsnotabigtruck | then the phone isn't necessarily precisely in a factory state, that's about it |
| 00:59.56 | itsnotabigtruck | traces of data you've deleted |
| 01:00.03 | itsnotabigtruck | though i don't know how secure flasher's secure erase mode is |
| 01:00.13 | itsnotabigtruck | probably a lot more secure than the normal reset though |
| 01:00.47 | itsnotabigtruck | also if you've messed with the OS much it might not be completely unmessed |
| 01:00.53 | itsnotabigtruck | and if you deleted maps it won't bring those back |
| 01:01.00 | itsnotabigtruck | (w/o the flasher reset) |
| 01:01.18 | faenil | nah haven't messed much with the OS |
| 01:01.22 | faenil | and there were maps on it |
| 01:01.34 | faenil | italian maps |
| 01:01.55 | itsnotabigtruck | hmm, better put the italian emmc on it |
| 01:01.59 | faenil | and I've never had any important data on it, just photos and videos, so there shouldn't be any problem... |
| 01:02.14 | itsnotabigtruck | http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/0812/6514769420/85EF76BB_DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4.ITALY_EMMC_ITALY.bin |
| 01:02.15 | itsnotabigtruck | here you go |
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| 01:02.53 | faenil | so normal reset has also deleted maps and games/apps that were preinstalled? |
| 01:02.58 | faenil | i.e. erased mmc? |
| 01:03.08 | itsnotabigtruck | i don't think the preinstalled stuff is on emmc, is it? |
| 01:03.09 | faenil | like golf, nfs |
| 01:03.16 | faenil | don't know actually |
| 01:03.50 | itsnotabigtruck | almost everything is rootfs except mydocs |
| 01:04.10 | faenil | mm ok so they should still be there |
| 01:04.17 | faenil | after reset |
| 01:04.29 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, they're part of the image |
| 01:04.38 | itsnotabigtruck | if you uninstalled them reflashing rootfs will bring them back |
| 01:04.46 | itsnotabigtruck | reflashing emmc will just do maps and maybe some other stuff |
| 01:05.02 | itsnotabigtruck | but since you're selling it, it makes sense to make it close to factory-new |
| 01:05.10 | faenil | ok...I thought additional games such as golf were in the emmc |
| 01:05.16 | faenil | yeah |
| 01:05.21 | faenil | italian emmc is better |
| 01:05.25 | faenil | well I'll just let it downlaod |
| 01:05.34 | faenil | and wake up earlier and flash it |
| 01:06.19 | itsnotabigtruck | i just realized that "row" in the product code names means "rest of world" |
| 01:06.38 | itsnotabigtruck | also, related to that, the no maps emmc is only 300 megs |
| 01:06.54 | faenil | oh can I have that? |
| 01:07.03 | itsnotabigtruck | http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/0810/6514769279/2E9DDCE2_DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4.NOMAPS_EMMC_NOMAPS.bin |
| 01:07.33 | faenil | and is that still regional? |
| 01:08.01 | itsnotabigtruck | no, it's the non-region-specific variant |
| 01:08.12 | itsnotabigtruck | but it's still for type 001 |
| 01:08.38 | faenil | ok... I think I'll use the 1.3gb one anyway, since I'm going to bed ;) |
| 01:08.44 | itsnotabigtruck | heh |
| 01:08.45 | itsnotabigtruck | later |
| 01:08.48 | faenil | have to wake up in 6 hours or less :( |
| 01:08.52 | itsnotabigtruck | :( |
| 01:08.53 | faenil | cya tomorrow and thanks for the help :) |
| 01:10.05 | faenil | crap I don't remember how the flasher works |
| 01:10.12 | faenil | flasher -F image -f is for image only |
| 01:10.38 | faenil | flasher -F image --erase-mmc=secure -f is for erasing |
| 01:11.01 | faenil | how do I add the emmc image? |
| 01:11.12 | itsnotabigtruck | faenil: hmm |
| 01:11.15 | itsnotabigtruck | there's built-in help |
| 01:11.22 | itsnotabigtruck | do flasher --help and do what sounds right, i think |
| 01:11.43 | itsnotabigtruck | just be sure before you hit enter, lest djszapi's concerns bear out, heh |
| 01:12.25 | faenil | XD |
| 01:12.41 | faenil | here it is, it's -F image -F emmcs |
| 01:13.12 | itsnotabigtruck | let's see here |
| 01:13.43 | itsnotabigtruck | hold on |
| 01:14.38 | faenil | oh, but is this 40.4 the one of the OTA update? |
| 01:14.46 | faenil | or do I need to update it via OTA afterwards? |
| 01:14.52 | faenil | I don't remember xD |
| 01:15.01 | itsnotabigtruck | --erase-user-data=secure --erase-mmc=secure -F image.bin -F emmc.bin -f -r |
| 01:15.12 | itsnotabigtruck | i *think* that ought to do the trick |
| 01:15.14 | faenil | right ;) |
| 01:15.15 | itsnotabigtruck | secure erase everything, flash, reboot |
| 01:15.24 | faenil | yeah |
| 01:15.29 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, and don't ever ota update it |
| 01:15.41 | faenil | I have already done it for the latest fw |
| 01:15.44 | itsnotabigtruck | ota updates seem to have version numbers higher than nsu updates |
| 01:15.52 | faenil | crap! |
| 01:16.02 | itsnotabigtruck | so if you ota update to the current version, you can't flash using nsu/caresuite/etc. anymore |
| 01:16.06 | itsnotabigtruck | or flasher |
| 01:16.12 | itsnotabigtruck | so...i think that's a problem then |
| 01:16.18 | faenil | definitely |
| 01:16.27 | faenil | ok he'll just get the phone as it is |
| 01:16.35 | itsnotabigtruck | well, if it fails safely, you could try anyway...the risk is that it does the erase operation and not the flash :p |
| 01:16.54 | itsnotabigtruck | i've had too many garbage firmware updater programs do things like that to me, heh |
| 01:17.06 | faenil | and how do I get the phone back once the fw has been flushed away XD |
| 01:17.32 | itsnotabigtruck | you could flash it up to PR1.1.1 |
| 01:17.38 | faenil | nah |
| 01:17.46 | itsnotabigtruck | we're going up a notch in risk factor then though |
| 01:17.49 | faenil | I'll just leave it as it is, don't want to take risks the night before selling it :) |
| 01:18.07 | faenil | it's very late, time to go to bed, cya mate ;) |
| 01:18.09 | faenil | and thanks := |
| 01:18.11 | faenil | :) |
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| 01:18.21 | itsnotabigtruck | later! |
| 01:26.20 | itsnotabigtruck | hopefully nokia won't cause that mess with the pr1.2 release again |
| 01:26.40 | itsnotabigtruck | (differing over-the-air and off-the-air images that make phones unflashable) |
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| 01:55.50 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/pi99v/hey_reddit_wanna_see_what_3_major_comic_syndicate/c3pknea |
| 01:55.51 | itsnotabigtruck | bahahaha |
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| 02:15.59 | itsnotabigtruck | out of curiosity, what's the output from flasher -i (show info) on an ota-flashed n9 |
| 02:16.50 | itsnotabigtruck | Found device RM-696, hardware revision 1603 NOLO version 2.1.5 Version of 'sw-release': DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4_PR_001 |
| 02:16.53 | itsnotabigtruck | ^ something like that |
| 02:17.10 | itsnotabigtruck | but that's from an NSU-flashed n9 |
| 02:18.07 | itsnotabigtruck | note that checking will cause a reboot |
| 02:19.47 | itsnotabigtruck | my beautiful uptime, ruined :p |
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| 04:16.45 | itsnotabigtruck | hmm, it looks like newegg is no longer stocking the N9 |
| 04:16.49 | itsnotabigtruck | they must have been closing them out when they lowered the price to $470 |
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| 04:40.36 | ieatlint | they probably just bought a pallet of them and never restocked |
| 04:48.11 | itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: heh, good point |
| 04:48.22 | ieatlint | they did the same thing with the n900 |
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| 05:18.59 | djszapi | npm: ping |
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| 06:07.11 | djszapi | is there a way of changing my ovi username without contacting the customer support ? |
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| 06:50.58 | artemma | djszapi: are you kidding us? Email support is THE way for interacting with anything related to nokia development websites :) |
| 06:51.22 | artemma | And for real efficiency you are to contact people you know personally, not via general email |
| 06:51.44 | djszapi | artemma: heh |
| 06:51.57 | djszapi | well they picked up an insane username for me :P |
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| 06:52.37 | djszapi | whereas, I can apparently creater a new user. |
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| 06:57.45 | djszapi | Support website: shall it be the bugtracker or the website of tha pplication ? |
| 06:57.50 | djszapi | the application* |
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| 06:58.07 | artemma | I'd go for nokia publisher support email |
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| 06:58.18 | artemma | they seem to know where to direct not very related requests |
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| 06:58.26 | artemma | worked a couple of times for me |
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| 07:00.10 | djszapi | artemma: you need to pass a website too |
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| 07:00.21 | artemma | ? |
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| 07:01.00 | djszapi | this is the entry: "Support website". |
| 07:01.58 | artemma | sorry, I don't get what you are talking about |
| 07:02.03 | artemma | but that's ok :) |
| 07:02.59 | djszapi | artemma: have you ever filled apps to ovi ? |
| 07:03.06 | djszapi | they do request you to give a support website ... |
| 07:03.09 | artemma | Some 5-6 apps |
| 07:03.14 | djszapi | for the content in question... |
| 07:03.15 | artemma | are, yeah, indeed |
| 07:03.20 | beford | i just put an url with a form in it :D |
| 07:03.33 | beford | i've seen others with just a link to the homepage of the project |
| 07:03.42 | artemma | nearly any web page works |
| 07:04.00 | artemma | It should just say something about your app and/or provide a way for questions |
| 07:04.13 | artemma | I like using services like uservoice.com , etc |
| 07:04.18 | beford | I saw you got your app published artemma |
| 07:04.37 | artemma | most of such services let you create one support site/forum for free |
| 07:05.02 | artemma | I don't have many apps, so there are enough uservoice competitors for free support forums for my apps :) |
| 07:05.15 | artemma | beford: indeed, last couple of apps were published just yesterday |
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| 07:05.45 | artemma | was surprised to find two (2!) positive reviews for a paid version not from friends within hours after publication |
| 07:06.11 | beford | lol |
| 07:06.26 | beford | did you manually check the countries to get the app published? |
| 07:06.52 | beford | if you check the 'all' at the top it doesn't publish it to China |
| 07:06.57 | artemma | djszapi: go to my ovi store publisher page, click through my apps and visit their support pages. Then you can choose - http://store.ovi.com/publisher/Artem%20Software |
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| 07:07.20 | artemma | some apps are for Symbian only, so you may like to deselect the phone model |
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| 07:07.44 | artemma | beford: that's a gimmik. I mean the workaround takes two clicks :) |
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| 07:07.55 | djszapi | already uploaded my stuff |
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| 07:08.01 | artemma | they just had to put this thing for legal reasons |
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| 07:08.14 | artemma | djszapi: congrats! |
| 07:08.17 | artemma | what's the app? |
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| 07:08.22 | beford | i've got like 30 chinese customers (which gives the same amount of euros that 3 USA customers xD) |
| 07:08.32 | itsnotabigtruck | beford artemma: don't they exclude china because of some rather complicated requirements involving e.g. having a chinese front company |
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| 07:08.55 | artemma | beford: my Daily Wallpaper (20K+ downloads) has about 90-95% downloads from china |
| 07:09.05 | artemma | it's the only major market where N9 was pushed for real |
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| 07:09.18 | djszapi | artemma: is it a problem to upload128x128 image ? |
| 07:09.32 | djszapi | I do not really 256x256 icon for instance (not I am not asking the screenshot) |
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| 07:10.36 | beford | I belive the 256x256 icon is used when browsing ovi store from desktop |
| 07:11.22 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im04d40RPL8&feature=related |
| 07:11.25 | djszapi | I do not really have 256x256... |
| 07:12.25 | djszapi | I mean not even higher resolution |
| 07:12.34 | djszapi | so I cannot scale the version 128x128 nicely. |
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| 07:13.00 | beford | well they check the dimension of images, you will probably have to upscale it before uploading it or it will be rejected |
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| 07:14.26 | djszapi | it is not enabled to upload this way |
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| 07:14.33 | djszapi | but scaling up will not really make any good |
| 07:14.46 | beford | yea :/ |
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| 07:15.50 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
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| 07:16.32 | djszapi | heh: "Alert: Image must be square. ". |
| 07:16.39 | djszapi | it is really for desktop then :) |
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| 07:17.07 | beford | yea it sucks :D |
| 07:21.32 | beford | I had to do a lot of cropping of the screenshot to get it square |
| 07:21.32 | itsnotabigtruck | what if you crop a screenshot |
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| 07:21.32 | itsnotabigtruck | er, just too late, heh |
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| 23:21.38 | DocScrutinizer | WOW infobot, my friend |
| 23:21.44 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 23:21.44 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: :) |
| 23:21.52 | DocScrutinizer | ~+uptime |
| 23:23.37 | trx | haha cia.gov is dead |
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| 23:24.00 | DocScrutinizer | today a friggin lot gone haywire in the internets |
| 23:24.56 | DocScrutinizer | starting with freenode amd not ending with our company lan between Germany and Lund |
| 23:25.49 | DocScrutinizer | som ehackers gone mad over acta or what ever it's called? |
| 23:25.58 | trx | yeah, acta |
| 23:26.38 | DocScrutinizer | infobot been down too |
| 23:26.57 | DocScrutinizer | not that she's usually not down for weeks lately |
| 23:27.09 | DocScrutinizer | more like the opposite |
| 23:27.27 | DocScrutinizer | up for 14h, then down for 3 days |
| 23:27.39 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 23:27.39 | infobot | DocScrutinizer: thanks |
| 23:28.08 | trx | why is sHe down so often? |
| 23:28.57 | DocScrutinizer | nfc, partialy due to freenode madness I guess, partially due to Tim's DSL being crap |
| 23:29.45 | DocScrutinizer | maybe even partially to flaws in bot |
| 23:30.00 | DocScrutinizer | that maybe get exploited recently |
| 23:30.40 | trx | bots :) |
| 23:30.59 | DocScrutinizer | anyway I noticed infobot is susceptable to netsplits, way more than in former times |
| 23:31.40 | DocScrutinizer | might be related to new ircd-seven version used by freenode, or by some of the anti-XY-bots they sport there |
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