| 00:04.31 | djszapiN9 | interesting why i cannot use joikuspot with wifi connection |
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| 03:34.14 | itsnotabigtruck | if anyone's around and has a PR1.0 device handy, any chance you could check what version of libtimed0 you have |
| 03:34.22 | itsnotabigtruck | cmd = dpkg -l libtimed0 |
| 03:34.58 | itsnotabigtruck | this is for an enhanced replacement for the live calendar icon hack, if anyone wants to give it a try just ask |
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| 05:00.39 | smokex | finally libpurple support for the accounts/message inegration |
| 05:01.27 | itsnotabigtruck | smokex: any idea about the libtimed0 thing? |
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| 08:15.26 | rZr | djszapi: morning do u have a program for today ? |
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| 08:16.07 | Venemo_N950 | morning everyone |
| 08:16.24 | itsnotabigtruck | hey Venemo_N950 |
| 08:16.33 | itsnotabigtruck | got harmattan pr1.0 around somewhere? |
| 08:16.43 | itsnotabigtruck | any idea what version of libtimed0 it comes with? |
| 08:16.48 | Venemo_N950 | after not using it for > a month, I must say the N950 is awesome :) |
| 08:17.08 | Venemo_N950 | itsnotabigtruck, sorry, I haven't a clue |
| 08:17.30 | itsnotabigtruck | Venemo_N950: it can be checked using > dpkg -l libtimed0 |
| 08:17.49 | Venemo_N950 | yeah |
| 08:17.59 | Venemo_N950 | but I don't have pr1.0 |
| 08:18.08 | itsnotabigtruck | but i already know what ver is on pr1.1...the problem is that the api doesn't expose an important flag on 2.50 |
| 08:18.22 | Venemo_N950 | mhm |
| 08:18.24 | itsnotabigtruck | and i suspect that pr1.0 comes with that, because that's what's part of the platform sdk |
| 08:18.37 | Venemo_N950 | mhm |
| 08:20.20 | Venemo_N950 | I don't know and I prefer not to speculate :) |
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| 09:38.53 | rZr | djszapi: morning |
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| 09:44.51 | djszapi | rZr: morning |
| 09:46.12 | rZr | where can i find u |
| 09:46.25 | rZr | about to buy a book for my host |
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| 09:47.22 | djszapi | rZr: I am sitting infront of the crossdesktop room |
| 09:47.25 | djszapi | come here. |
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| 09:50.43 | rZr | qa1*122111#z@+exe@zzz#@ |
| 09:50.57 | merlin1991 | Wtf? |
| 09:51.05 | rZr | sorry |
| 09:51.15 | rZr | did not lock my screen |
| 09:51.32 | rZr | and a monkey pick my n950 |
| 09:51.40 | rZr | djszapi: i am comming |
| 09:51.55 | merlin1991 | Monkey? o_O |
| 09:55.40 | rZr | just entered that room |
| 09:55.51 | djszapi | rZr: I am in front of the room |
| 09:55.54 | djszapi | not inside |
| 10:01.08 | rZr | djszapi: let me get out then |
| 10:03.03 | rZr | djszapi: tell me where u are |
| 10:03.05 | djszapi | rZr: heh, I have just comeinside :) |
| 10:03.16 | djszapi | are you at the room 1308 ? |
| 10:03.39 | rZr | just out now |
| 10:03.40 | djszapi | I can come outside, this is not so interesting talk to me :) |
| 10:03.41 | rZr | lol |
| 10:03.51 | rZr | comme on |
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| 10:19.54 | Venemo | how do I turn off device lock in Harmattan? |
| 10:29.12 | djszapi | Venemo: I do not think the average user can turn off completely. |
| 10:29.37 | djszapi | is heading to the qt5 presentation |
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| 10:39.34 | Venemo | djszapi, umm, I'm meaning the actual device lock feature which asks me for a lock code when I unlock the device |
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| 11:09.12 | djszapi | Venemo: I meant to answer for that. |
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| 12:01.41 | frals | Venemo: settings > security > device lock > off? |
| 12:01.58 | frals | Venemo: if you have mfe account setup it likely wont let you depending on mfe policy, though |
| 12:03.19 | rZr | djszapi: going to some lvmm presentation |
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| 12:13.38 | Venemo | frals, OMG |
| 12:13.46 | Venemo | frals, how can I change that mfe policy? |
| 12:13.56 | frals | you talk to your server administrator |
| 12:14.09 | Venemo | f yea. |
| 12:14.30 | Venemo | this policy is not even cared about on WP7 |
| 12:15.00 | frals | or if your organization allows non-provisionable devices, remove account and resetup and tick the "non-provisionable device" box and the phone wont care about exchange policy |
| 12:15.35 | Venemo | will it work if I don't resetup, just tick that box? |
| 12:16.13 | frals | you have to recreate the account im pretty sure |
| 12:16.28 | Venemo | ok |
| 12:16.36 | frals | because the sync relationship with the server is already saying it supports security features |
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| 12:19.04 | djszapi | the autolock off setting != devicelock off |
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| 12:19.23 | djszapi | rZr: this qpresentation is boring here :) |
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| 12:21.25 | Venemo | frals, also, why can't I make it sync messages older than 2 weeks? |
| 12:26.37 | Venemo | frals, ok, a re-setup and checking "non-provisionable device" solved it! thanks :) |
| 12:26.45 | frals | np |
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| 12:36.02 | djszapi | How can I get the integer quotient of a division for a ListElement role ? |
| 12:36.37 | djszapi | I would like to get rid of the X.Y stuff without real javascript hacking. I hope there is a nice way for this conversion. |
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| 12:47.29 | djszapi | rZr: have you tried the t-shirt ? |
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| 13:06.57 | rZr | djszapi: will do u will find me |
| 13:07.40 | rZr | djszapi: now listening to mozilla mobile will switch ti icerobot @k |
| 13:07.42 | PaulePanter | Hi folks. |
| 13:08.08 | PaulePanter | Receiving a call with the N9 (Harmattan 1.1) only the number is shown and not the name from my address book. |
| 13:08.28 | PaulePanter | And in the address book I only can search for a name and no number. |
| 13:09.03 | PaulePanter | It happens with SMS and (incoming) calls. |
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| 13:22.19 | petteri | yes, it is know bug |
| 13:23.18 | PaulePanter | http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=108 |
| 13:23.49 | PaulePanter | Does anyone know if it will be fixed it Harmattan 1.2? |
| 13:23.57 | petteri | no idea |
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| 13:56.30 | admiral0 | hello |
| 13:56.42 | admiral0 | is there qdbus for the n9? |
| 13:56.59 | admiral0 | nvm |
| 13:57.03 | admiral0 | it's in :\ |
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| 14:31.32 | rZr | pl |
| 14:31.33 | rZr | pp |
| 14:31.34 | rZr | pq |
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| 14:48.05 | admiral0 | hello rZr |
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| 15:20.02 | npm | is there a way to call the /usr/bin/search application with an existing search string? |
| 15:21.34 | rZr | admiral0: hi whois a fosdem here ? |
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| 15:23.35 | djszapi | rZr: I am sitting at the continous integration room |
| 15:24.15 | itsnotabigtruck | rzr npm petteri PaulePanter: any idea what version of libtimed0 is on PR1.0 (use dpkg -l libtimed0) |
| 15:25.34 | rZr | djszapi: is it better than qt5 ? |
| 15:25.48 | djszapi | rZr: no, it is boring :P |
| 15:25.55 | djszapi | is there some qt5 somewhere ? |
| 15:26.27 | rZr | yesterday there was those shaders project |
| 15:26.46 | rZr | it was qt5 |
| 15:27.33 | djszapi | I missed that because of cmake, I am afraid. |
| 15:27.43 | rZr | libtimed0 2.54+0m7 timed client library |
| 15:28.19 | rZr | itsnotabigtruck:f(or you |
| 15:28.30 | itsnotabigtruck | rzr: that must be PR1.2beta |
| 15:28.33 | itsnotabigtruck | but thanks for checking |
| 15:28.41 | rZr | true |
| 15:28.54 | itsnotabigtruck | i need >=2.51, and the sdk came with 2.50 |
| 15:29.07 | itsnotabigtruck | so i'm worried that's what PR1.0 includes |
| 15:29.10 | djszapi | just create an 1.0 target in scratchbox |
| 15:29.10 | rZr | itsnotabigtruck: look at the forum i created a poll |
| 15:29.11 | djszapi | and done |
| 15:29.23 | rZr | to track wich fw pple are running |
| 15:29.57 | djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta2/free/t/timed/ |
| 15:30.02 | djszapi | this is the beta2 |
| 15:30.23 | djszapi | anyway, having a Pr1.0 target is good idea either way. |
| 15:30.39 | djszapi | rZr: when do you plan to leave FOSDEM/Brussel ? |
| 15:31.15 | rZr | tom morning |
| 15:31.53 | djszapi | too |
| 15:32.12 | rZr | got plans for dinner ? |
| 15:32.35 | djszapi | in Leuven most likely. |
| 15:32.40 | djszapi | at my friend's place. |
| 15:32.44 | rZr | i am w a couple of friends but u can join us |
| 15:32.49 | rZr | ok |
| 15:33.50 | rZr | then we'll not that farr online |
| 15:34.39 | rZr | brb ill ping u once this deb talk is over |
| 15:37.24 | itsnotabigtruck | later rzr! |
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| 15:51.23 | faenil | has anyone ever used DocumentGalleryModel |
| 15:53.25 | faenil | I mean, how can you put a property with name "width" and "height" when all freaking components in QML use that name!?!?!? |
| 15:53.37 | faenil | were they drunk or what? I'm so pissed! |
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| 16:04.35 | djszapi | rZr: ping |
| 16:04.53 | djszapi | I am about to leave, but drop by the ex-open mobile linux devroom beforehand |
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| 16:26.10 | Venemo | faenil, yes I use the DocumentGalleryModel |
| 16:26.17 | Venemo | faenil, sorry for the late response |
| 16:47.31 | faenil | Venemo: fixed, it's a damn bug (or missing feature?) in the simulator |
| 16:47.43 | faenil | it doesn't return image's width/height correctly, it returns 0 |
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| 17:01.33 | itsnotabigtruck | faenil: any idea about the libtimed0 pr1.0 thing? |
| 17:01.53 | itsnotabigtruck | (sorry about bugging absolutely everyone, but there isn't an easy way to find out besides asking someone or downloading the whole thing and dumping it) |
| 17:02.48 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: you updated ota to 1.1? |
| 17:02.53 | faenil | nope sorry |
| 17:03.00 | itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: i updated off the air, but yeah |
| 17:03.11 | admiral0 | you didn't flash ? |
| 17:03.49 | admiral0 | probably there is a log of all installs |
| 17:04.01 | admiral0 | all serious pkg managers have logs |
| 17:04.08 | itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: nah, i think dpkg logging is turned off on N( |
| 17:04.19 | itsnotabigtruck | there's a log but it doesn't have much of anything inside |
| 17:04.27 | itsnotabigtruck | and by 'off the air' i mean via NSU |
| 17:04.38 | itsnotabigtruck | rather than the on-phone automatic update |
| 17:05.08 | itsnotabigtruck | i already had the 1.5gig payload downloaded so why wait through that again |
| 17:06.11 | itsnotabigtruck | btw per the debian python policy you should add a dependency on python or python2.x to your ls-magic package |
| 17:06.21 | admiral0 | it lists all installed packages for me in /var/log/apt |
| 17:06.28 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-programs.html |
| 17:07.03 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: ls-magic 1.x is the last major release |
| 17:07.07 | admiral0 | in py |
| 17:07.16 | admiral0 | 2.X is fully C++/Qt |
| 17:08.06 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1160606&postcount=74 |
| 17:08.16 | admiral0 | i have date widget working |
| 17:08.43 | admiral0 | current TODOs are external plugin loading |
| 17:08.56 | admiral0 | icon resource system |
| 17:08.58 | itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: that's python version 2.x |
| 17:09.01 | itsnotabigtruck | not ls-magic version 2.x |
| 17:09.06 | admiral0 | yes |
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| 17:09.20 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, nm |
| 17:09.29 | admiral0 | but ls-magic 1.3 will be hopefully last release in py |
| 17:10.12 | itsnotabigtruck | well, since you're going c++, look into using the system aligned timer |
| 17:10.22 | admiral0 | timer? |
| 17:10.29 | admiral0 | what do you mean? |
| 17:10.33 | itsnotabigtruck | it causes the system to schedule tasks together in batches to minimize battery consumption |
| 17:10.45 | itsnotabigtruck | long link incoming |
| 17:10.46 | itsnotabigtruck | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Best_practices_for_application_development_Optimising_power_consumption_Using_heartbeat.html |
| 17:11.01 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: <3 |
| 17:11.01 | admiral0 | great |
| 17:12.07 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm not sure if it's really appropriate, if you set a really wide window then there coul be periods where it stops updating for a long time |
| 17:12.19 | itsnotabigtruck | but e.g. 1 to 3 minutes might make sense |
| 17:13.58 | admiral0 | i like it |
| 17:14.02 | admiral0 | finally |
| 17:14.13 | itsnotabigtruck | also maybe look into using libtimed or some other mechanism to ensure you get notified when the clock strikes midnight |
| 17:14.16 | admiral0 | i can disable updates when system is active |
| 17:14.24 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: ? |
| 17:14.38 | itsnotabigtruck | the date field, it should update on the dot at 0000h |
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| 17:14.50 | itsnotabigtruck | and if the user plays around with the time zone, it should update based off of that |
| 17:15.03 | admiral0 | the way it's engineered any plugin can trigger an update |
| 17:15.13 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. getting off a plane at 0100h destination time and turning off flight mode |
| 17:15.43 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: i don't want it overcomplicated |
| 17:15.46 | itsnotabigtruck | tbh the whole plugin arrangement sounds super overkill |
| 17:15.53 | admiral0 | it's not |
| 17:16.08 | admiral0 | very easy to mantain |
| 17:16.10 | itsnotabigtruck | whereas the timed integration isn't visible complexity, to the user it just works |
| 17:16.26 | itsnotabigtruck | there might be a better way to watch for zone changes and stuff though |
| 17:16.32 | itsnotabigtruck | i wonder what the clock on the lock screen does |
| 17:16.42 | admiral0 | nothing |
| 17:16.48 | admiral0 | absolutely nothing |
| 17:16.59 | admiral0 | imo it just gets current system time |
| 17:17.02 | itsnotabigtruck | well, it does something, namely update every minute |
| 17:17.05 | itsnotabigtruck | and update when the zone changes |
| 17:17.27 | itsnotabigtruck | which can happen w/o user intervention remember |
| 17:17.55 | itsnotabigtruck | so it has to have some way to hook that |
| 17:22.42 | admiral0 | GSM |
| 17:22.55 | admiral0 | then it sets system |
| 17:22.58 | admiral0 | tz |
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| 17:25.29 | itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: right, but the lockscreen has to watch for when the system tz changes |
| 17:25.36 | itsnotabigtruck | timed is one way to do said watching, there might be another way |
| 17:25.51 | itsnotabigtruck | in any case, what i'm suggesting is doing an immediate refresh any time the date could have changed |
| 17:26.17 | itsnotabigtruck | which isn't all that difficult now that you're reengineering it in c++ |
| 17:26.31 | itsnotabigtruck | (timeD isn't so easy to use from python) |
| 17:27.36 | admiral0 | it's already engineered |
| 17:27.47 | admiral0 | i keep the core as dumb as possible |
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| 17:32.10 | faenil | can anybody help me understand why flickable resets my items' contentX/Y? |
| 17:32.11 | faenil | thanks |
| 17:32.27 | faenil | after I set contentHeight/width |
| 17:32.31 | faenil | and how I can stop that |
| 17:33.34 | Venemo_ | faenil, it depends. what exactly do you wanna do? |
| 17:33.49 | faenil | a damned pinchtozoom algo |
| 17:33.54 | faenil | and it was working till yesterday |
| 17:34.03 | faenil | then today I reinstalled windows and linux |
| 17:34.07 | faenil | and now it's not working anymore |
| 17:34.20 | Venemo_ | for pinch to zoom, just use PinchArea |
| 17:34.26 | faenil | XD |
| 17:34.37 | faenil | that just zoom from the center |
| 17:34.42 | faenil | I want a decent pinchtozoom ;) |
| 17:34.48 | faenil | with flickable content |
| 17:34.56 | faenil | try to do that, and you'll see what I mean :) |
| 17:35.05 | faenil | flickable and pincharea will start punching you in the face |
| 17:35.15 | faenil | but I got it working...now it's not working anymore, and I don't know why |
| 17:36.49 | Venemo_ | ahyes, they steal the touch points from each other :) |
| 17:36.53 | Venemo_ | I remember sucking with them |
| 17:37.04 | faenil | it's not much about that, it's about size and ratios |
| 17:37.47 | faenil | keeping the contentSize in pair with what it really is while zooming in and then zooming out so that it zoomsin/out from the point you're pinching, doesn't seem to be thrivial |
| 17:38.59 | Venemo_ | hm |
| 17:39.03 | Venemo_ | it's not trivial indeed |
| 17:39.26 | Venemo_ | oh btw, faenil, FYI, I've increased the size of the buttons in Puzzle Master to fit your translation :P |
| 17:39.42 | faenil | ahaha thanks :D |
| 17:40.25 | faenil | I can't believe that I didn't keep the backup copy... |
| 17:40.28 | faenil | I'm so angry |
| 17:42.23 | faenil | ok I ctrl+zed all the way back |
| 17:42.27 | faenil | and it still doesn't work |
| 17:42.29 | faenil | it's not my fault |
| 17:42.36 | faenil | it's probably the new sdk which changed something |
| 17:42.40 | faenil | damn it |
| 17:43.28 | faenil | which is still word |
| 17:43.29 | faenil | worse |
| 17:48.24 | Venemo_ | :( |
| 17:56.35 | Milhouse | anyone with pr1.2beta, that restored a PR1.1 backup, able to confirm if you see the Home or Work telephone number fields when adding a NEW contact? Mine have both gone AWOL, I now only see Mobile |
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| 18:06.22 | Milhouse | noone able to verify, before i raise yet another bug? |
| 18:07.07 | itsnotabigtruck | Milhouse: no pr1.2beta here :( |
| 18:07.21 | itsnotabigtruck | it does seem like the whole backup mechanism is playing with fire |
| 18:07.21 | Milhouse | thanks :( |
| 18:07.41 | itsnotabigtruck | both symbian and meego seem to have overly complicated backup schemes that tend to fsck your phone |
| 18:08.06 | Milhouse | it's the first time i've tried adding a new contact since pr1.2, so maybe something else has caused the fields to disappear - or it could be the restore process |
| 18:08.26 | Milhouse | i though the restore had gone remarkably well, to be honest |
| 18:08.35 | Milhouse | but little things like this could go unnoticed for weeks |
| 18:08.55 | itsnotabigtruck | are you sure you checked if the field just needed to be added? |
| 18:09.11 | Milhouse | can't find it to add |
| 18:09.31 | Milhouse | when you got to add a new contact, what fields do you see (by default)? |
| 18:09.38 | itsnotabigtruck | ah, figured it out |
| 18:09.41 | itsnotabigtruck | tap where it says mobile |
| 18:09.57 | itsnotabigtruck | also when you fill in one number it automatically adds a second box for the next type, and so on |
| 18:09.58 | Milhouse | I see: First name, Last name, Mobile (number) and Home (email address) |
| 18:10.12 | Milhouse | aha... |
| 18:10.38 | Milhouse | yes, if i put in a random mobile number then Home appears. If I fill in Home, then Work appears. |
| 18:10.45 | Milhouse | What fuckwit thought that was a good idea??? |
| 18:10.54 | itsnotabigtruck | did you try tapping on Mobile |
| 18:11.02 | itsnotabigtruck | it lets you change the type of number on the existing field |
| 18:11.17 | itsnotabigtruck | the idea is that once you set one kind of number, it gives you another field to set another type |
| 18:11.22 | itsnotabigtruck | but you can change any field to any type |
| 18:11.24 | Milhouse | Man... i feel rather stupid, but also wonder if this is really a good UI... |
| 18:11.43 | Milhouse | been so long since I added a contact manually! :) |
| 18:11.50 | itsnotabigtruck | it doesn't seem that bad...maybe a bit oblique |
| 18:12.07 | Milhouse | ok, so problem solved - thanks itsnotabigtruck :) |
| 18:12.27 | itsnotabigtruck | designing UIs /only/ for "intuitiveness" just dumbs everything down |
| 18:13.00 | Milhouse | I suppose the underlined fields was a bit of a clue |
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| 18:39.15 | blueslee | has someone background informations on the low power screen of the n9? |
| 18:40.06 | blueslee | on tmo many say that only black-white is allowed but that doesnt seem to be true |
| 18:40.38 | blueslee | i need a black, white and one more color:-) |
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| 19:00.25 | blueslee | admiral0: ping |
| 19:02.47 | frals | blueslee: its 3bit |
| 19:08.25 | itsnotabigtruck | so 8-color eh |
| 19:09.16 | itsnotabigtruck | white, cyan, magenta, yellow, red, green, blue, black |
| 19:09.17 | frals | blueslee: ie 000000, 0000ff, 00ff00, ff0000, ffff00 and their inverses, or something like that |
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| 19:09.55 | itsnotabigtruck | it's probably better to stick to white anyway, that way it matches the aesthetic |
| 19:11.48 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: frals: i will need to map a chessboard and chess figures, so i need at least 3 colors and it will be hard to map in such a color schemes automatically |
| 19:13.17 | itsnotabigtruck | o.O this sounds interesting...correspondence chess through the lp screen? |
| 19:14.03 | admiral0 | blueslee: pong |
| 19:14.32 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, tha tshould do the trick then, use 2 colors to draw a checkerboard, and 2 more for white/black players |
| 19:14.44 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: i have several ideas, the first one is trivial, just display a "chess mate in 1, 2 ..." puzzle on the lp |
| 19:14.49 | blueslee | admiral0: see above |
| 19:14.57 | itsnotabigtruck | the main problem would be resolution, how do you make the chess figures legible with such a tiny board |
| 19:15.07 | admiral0 | yes |
| 19:15.15 | admiral0 | blueslee: (r,g,b) |
| 19:15.28 | admiral0 | blueslee: any can be either 0 or 255 |
| 19:15.45 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: that is no issue, the figures are okay |
| 19:16.01 | admiral0 | so (255,0,255) will do |
| 19:16.20 | itsnotabigtruck | btw does PNG support 3-bit color? |
| 19:16.22 | frals | blueslee: itsnotabigtruck: a one line change to a css files lets you make it bigger, fwiw |
| 19:16.24 | blueslee | admiral0: i tried 8bit on operator logo, you mean lp screen is different in that case? |
| 19:16.25 | itsnotabigtruck | i.e. one bit per channel |
| 19:16.47 | admiral0 | no |
| 19:16.51 | blueslee | frals: i know, i have 337x337 |
| 19:18.00 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: the second idea is to use gnuchess in the terminal, export the current status in a fen format and convert it to an image, that would be "live" chess |
| 19:18.23 | blueslee | is image magick available on harmattan? |
| 19:18.39 | itsnotabigtruck | it looks like the closest you can get is 4 bits per pixel indexed color |
| 19:18.55 | itsnotabigtruck | which you would map to an 8 color palette |
| 19:19.10 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: i will first map with the help of gimp and display it on the n9 |
| 19:19.43 | itsnotabigtruck | also, as for imagemagick... |
| 19:19.56 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: i tried with different palettes, but i guess with the wrong ones |
| 19:19.57 | itsnotabigtruck | yes |
| 19:20.03 | itsnotabigtruck | at least, it's in the sdk |
| 19:20.06 | itsnotabigtruck | no idea if it's on the n9 |
| 19:20.43 | blueslee | admiral0: what about your c code instead of python, any progress? |
| 19:20.51 | admiral0 | yes |
| 19:20.57 | admiral0 | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/05/demo.png |
| 19:21.06 | itsnotabigtruck | apt-cache search magick -> libmagick10, imagemagick |
| 19:22.08 | itsnotabigtruck | blueslee: but i think qt has its own image stuff, maybe look into that? |
| 19:22.10 | blueslee | thats goog |
| 19:22.19 | blueslee | ^good |
| 19:22.45 | itsnotabigtruck | btw just a shot in the dark - frals blueslee: you guys don't have access to devices with PR1.0 do you? |
| 19:22.46 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: i am close to the cli using crontab for different kinds of things |
| 19:23.01 | itsnotabigtruck | i need to check what version of libtimed0 originally shipped (dpkg -l libtimed0) |
| 19:23.21 | itsnotabigtruck | i need 2.51+ and i'm afraid pr1.0 shipped with 2.50 |
| 19:23.34 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: flashing back does not work, hehe ... but |
| 19:23.47 | itsnotabigtruck | also blueslee: i thought cron doesn't normally ship with harmattan |
| 19:24.03 | itsnotabigtruck | that's why i'm using timed, which does |
| 19:24.24 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: i know, i installed it from the meego forum |
| 19:24.47 | itsnotabigtruck | the problem with timed is that registering a task requires a *very* complicated dbus-send command, or use of the libtimed0 library from c++ |
| 19:24.57 | itsnotabigtruck | you can't modify the config directly, it's aegis-protected |
| 19:25.44 | blueslee | okay, i have no issues with cron except that it has to run as root |
| 19:26.19 | itsnotabigtruck | well, the cron would probably interfere with shipping it through c-obs or ovi store |
| 19:26.35 | blueslee | admiral0: i hope your code can handle something like "lpmagic textfile" |
| 19:26.59 | admiral0 | won't be like this |
| 19:27.11 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: yes you are right, so far its only hacking, i am not a developer:-) |
| 19:27.14 | admiral0 | more like %text{text} |
| 19:27.16 | admiral0 | or |
| 19:27.31 | admiral0 | %text{path}{update} |
| 19:28.26 | blueslee | admiral0: so i can tell the application to load a textfile or do you have a gui to paste the text or so |
| 19:28.42 | admiral0 | there is a config |
| 19:28.55 | admiral0 | you can also write a plugin |
| 19:29.10 | admiral0 | like %quote{random} |
| 19:35.10 | blueslee | admiral0: sounds very promising, i just want to display my nba statistics |
| 19:36.05 | blueslee | admiral0: see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1150013 |
| 19:38.45 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: the only chance to get back to pr 1.0 would be with the help of the rescue images and dd backups of pr 1.0 |
| 19:40.33 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: but i dont know if this would work, for instance its not possible just to flash if you inputed wrong phone lock codes |
| 19:43.23 | blueslee | frals: hey, you are the guy from the lpm customizer which i installed some minutes ago |
| 19:44.19 | frals | blueslee: that would be me, yeah |
| 19:46.11 | blueslee | frals: it has also an option to display text, are there any chances to use textfiles and display those with dimensions > 120x120 |
| 19:46.25 | Venemo | ~pr1.2 |
| 19:46.25 | infobot | i heard #harmattan update is http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 |
| 19:47.04 | itsnotabigtruck | blueslee: nah, i don't want to downgrade |
| 19:47.10 | frals | blueslee: https://github.com/frals/lpmcustomizer/blob/47891d164f833396996ee4dc2b8eabd3a2112cc7/imagegenerator.cpp#L33 |
| 19:47.37 | frals | blueslee: theres the code to generate the text at least ;) |
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| 19:47.43 | itsnotabigtruck | i was just hoping to know if my app would have the proper dependencies on other phones that still are on pr1.0 |
| 20:16.52 | Venemo | heh! |
| 20:16.57 | Venemo | is updating his N950 to PR 1.2 |
| 20:17.09 | Venemo | "Erasing, this may take while" indeed takes a WHILE. |
| 20:18.32 | Venemo | btw, is there a tool for Harmattan which can check for phone number duplicates? |
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| 20:25.35 | RST38h | address bookmerge? |
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| 20:33.06 | Venemo | RST38h, please elaborate |
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| 20:40.01 | Venemo | ok, PR 1.2 is there now |
| 20:40.11 | Venemo | wallpapers setting is empty - LOL |
| 20:46.10 | Venemo | "unable to trance installation dependencies" - says anything in "developer mode" |
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| 20:46.33 | Venemo | and the backup app was unable to restore my accounts |
| 20:48.18 | RST38h | yeah |
| 20:48.22 | Venemo | hrm |
| 20:48.34 | Venemo | are these normal? |
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| 20:52.19 | RST38h | Well,the applications cannot be restored because apt-get crashes when doing anything with the ovi store installations |
| 20:52.27 | RST38h | accounts restored fine for me |
| 20:52.30 | Venemo | I didn't even try to restore applications |
| 20:52.40 | Venemo | but, after I copypasted all my previous backups and pressed restore on the latest, it now restored my accounts too |
| 20:52.46 | RST38h | unable to trace shit is apparently due to aegis made extra anal in pr 1.2 |
| 20:53.12 | RST38h | it can'tinstall gdb btw,but installsall the other tools |
| 20:58.32 | trx | how do i use chmod on harmattan? |
| 20:58.48 | trx | i want to allow an executable to be run |
| 21:00.15 | trx | and it seems that because of aegis a 15 second job is now >60min job |
| 21:00.45 | trx | which is making me want to hang myself every now and then |
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| 21:10.27 | npm | so does anybody know how to invoke search app programmatically ( /usr/bin/search invokes, but how do you set the search string??) |
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| 21:20.09 | npm | and how do you query which keyboard is visible, since they take up different amount of space |
| 21:20.24 | npm | updating voicetogoog for pr 1.2 |
| 21:28.07 | gri | npm: Since you can control the ovi app via dbus, I would expect that for the search, too |
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| 21:53.42 | pinheiro_ | guys one question making one ap in qt creator its all ready but im wondering how do i set the icon for the configure screen? |
| 21:53.49 | pinheiro_ | configure apps |
| 21:53.59 | pinheiro_ | the main icon is working fine |
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| 22:19.36 | npm | incase anybody wants it: http://nielsmayer.com/meego/harmattan/harmattan-dbus-listing.txt :-) |
| 22:20.22 | npm | hm actually it had too much info in it |
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| 22:22.15 | npm | for i in `qdbus | grep '^ [a-z]*'` \n do \n echo $i ---------------------------------------------------- \n qdbus $i \n done |
| 22:22.22 | npm | do your own |
| 22:22.27 | npm | :-) |
| 22:23.34 | blueslee | frals: what i am doing wrong if the screen is flickering, i have some disturbing lines though i only use 3 colors, white, black and magenta |
| 23:06.38 | npm | Anybody know how to use dbus to send email attachments and any comments on http://code.google.com/p/voicetogoog/issues/detail?id=1#c4 |
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