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| 02:15.19 | JackaLX | Hey Folks! Since updating my N9 to PR1.1 I've noticed that /usr/bin/messageserver is keeping the CPU running flat out (99% as seen from top). Obviously that is draining my battery pretty fast (6 or 7 hours total battery life when idle). Is this a known issue? Or, better, is there a fix? |
| 02:16.03 | JackaLX | Even with all accounts disabled it is still using 99% CPU |
| 02:31.39 | GeneralAntilles | JackaLX, not heard of it. |
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| 02:39.09 | JackaLX | GeneralAntilles: OK, I'll keep digging and see if I can isolate it to something specific. |
| 02:39.35 | GeneralAntilles | JackaLX, I might check the forums. |
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| 02:57.25 | Sazpaimon | oh good |
| 02:57.36 | Sazpaimon | I dont need to manually compile the new meego-terminal after all |
| 02:57.42 | Sazpaimon | my device just got it today |
| 02:57.51 | Sazpaimon | now meego-terminal is perfect |
| 02:58.42 | Sazpaimon | thats pretty good turnaround time, only about a day or so |
| 03:08.34 | JackaLX | GeneralAntilles: There was something on TMO related to batt drain. Though that was from PR1.0. A couple of clues in it. Looks like possibly a synchng issue and I think I may have cleared it. |
| 03:09.23 | JackaLX | I disabled all accounts, then rebooted, then re-enabled one by one and turned off all auto-synching/scheduling. |
| 03:09.39 | JackaLX | I'll watch it for a day or two and see how it goes. |
| 03:10.25 | JackaLX | My thoughts are that something was screwed up some place in settings db and an auto-synch couldn't complete and never gave up trying. |
| 03:21.29 | DocScrutinizer | LOL, MrCrab fw-download site mutated to a mp3 download site |
| 03:50.24 | JackaLX | Sazpaimon: is meego-terminal the default terminal you get with dev-mode, or is it something else? |
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| 05:25.04 | trupheenix | hi i got a doubt. can i run both Qt SDK and Harmattan Platform SDK on the same system to do Harmattan development? |
| 05:43.47 | iekku | morning |
| 05:56.10 | jonni | trupheenix: yes you can |
| 05:57.50 | trupheenix | jonni, ok |
| 06:23.06 | qronic | How to read /proc/kmsg? It says "Operation not permitted" for develsh and devel-su |
| 06:23.28 | psycho_oreos | syslog? |
| 06:24.31 | qronic | Is the output the same? I'm looking into kernel stack dump after reboot |
| 06:26.39 | jonni | qronic: dmesg |
| 06:27.53 | qronic | jonni, doesn't dmesg shows output _after_ the boot? Cause I want to see the logs of the kernel oops |
| 06:28.09 | qronic | on android there's /proc/last_kmsg doing that |
| 06:29.32 | jonni | qronic: /proc/kmsg only shows stuff beginning of 0.0000 seconds |
| 06:30.10 | jonni | (reading of that file is possible after you install develsh as com.nokia.maemo), so output is the same as dmesg |
| 06:30.25 | qronic | I see, thanks |
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| 06:30.46 | qronic | jonni, any idea how to make kernel to save oops state into some file? |
| 06:30.51 | qronic | maybe some syslog magic |
| 06:31.35 | dm8tbr | qronic: is that your own kernel? |
| 06:31.52 | qronic | no, it's an original N9 PR1.1 |
| 06:32.27 | dm8tbr | most likely no chance |
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| 06:33.11 | dm8tbr | you'd probably need a jig with serial output AND also RND certs to enable pin-mux of UART |
| 06:36.26 | qronic | too hard :) especialy on N9, no luck then |
| 06:37.01 | dm8tbr | on a custom kernel you could probably add support for things like last_kmesg |
| 06:40.32 | jonni | I usually just use serial console on n950, but on N9 things are a bit more hard, one could use custom kernel, or just com.nokia.com develsh and tail -f /proc/kmsg > /root/last_kmsg |
| 06:42.23 | jonni | com.nokia.maemo even |
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| 06:47.04 | Kaadlajk | qronic: there is package called sp-oops-extract |
| 06:47.24 | Kaadlajk | sp-oops-extract - A tool to display OOPS/panic logs from MTD partition |
| 06:48.07 | Kaadlajk | didnt read backlog so no idea if that is what you need :P |
| 06:48.35 | qronic | Kaadlajk, maybe it will help, though it seems like it's for maemo5 |
| 06:48.44 | Kaadlajk | it works for harmattan too |
| 06:49.33 | Kaadlajk | we use it internally |
| 06:49.51 | qronic | do you have it? What' the latest version? 0.0.7? |
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| 06:50.13 | Kaadlajk | 0.1.0 should be latest |
| 06:50.36 | qronic | found it, thanks |
| 06:51.28 | qronic | though, seems like it was deleted |
| 06:51.43 | qronic | it wa here: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/s/sp-oops-extract/sp-oops-extract_0.1.0+0m6.dsc |
| 06:51.59 | qronic | but now, beta is deleted, and it's not in beta3 and beta2 |
| 06:54.59 | qronic | I will have to email Maintainer: Eero Tamminen probably |
| 06:56.40 | Kaadlajk | he will know |
| 06:58.44 | qronic | Kaadlajk, thank you |
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| 07:03.19 | jonni | most likely it was in beta1 by mistake and considered as internal tool |
| 07:03.53 | Kaadlajk | it should be opensource |
| 07:06.21 | jonni | or put it this way, its not shipped in default pr1.0&pr1.1 firmware, so it doesnt need to be in repoes |
| 07:06.43 | Kaadlajk | :-) |
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| 07:10.44 | jonni | or you can just use fremantle sources, since afaik format has not changed |
| 07:14.35 | qronic | yeah, I'll into it if couldn't get the 0.1.0 for maemo6 |
| 07:23.10 | jonni | just reading git log from 0.0.7-1 vs 0.1.0, there one commit that added support for large block sizes, so you are out of luck with fremantle version, since it doesnt handle harmattan block sizes. |
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| 11:19.59 | razvanpetru | hey, anyone seen Labels inside ListView that wouldn't respect their color? |
| 11:22.42 | razvanpetru | basically, I have a complicated delegate that has a bunch of labels... |
| 11:22.59 | razvanpetru | I set the top label's color and only the first item in the list gets the color, the rest are black |
| 11:23.03 | razvanpetru | outrageous! :) |
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| 12:17.41 | Jare_ | mc-tool is giving me empty output when run automatically from a script, but if i run the script manually it'll work as expected. What could be the problem here? |
| 12:22.34 | deram | maybe some environment is not set correctly when running automatically... try running manually with "env -i" in front of the command, and see if it runs or complains something |
| 12:26.30 | Jare_ | ~ $ env -i /usr/bin/mc-tool list |
| 12:26.30 | Jare_ | mc-tool list: Failed to connect to D-Bus: Using X11 for dbus-daemon autolaunch was disabled at compile time, set your DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS instead |
| 12:27.39 | deram | hmm.. it at least needs DISPLAY to be set... |
| 12:28.31 | deram | or that DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS |
| 12:31.00 | Jare_ | this works: "env -i dbus-launch && /usr/bin/mc-tool list" |
| 12:31.34 | Jare_ | do i also have close the dbus or is it done automatically? |
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| 12:41.43 | Jare_ | oh, stupid me, of course that works x). I'll try it in the script anyway |
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| 13:24.51 | razvanpetru | what's the problem with SelectionDialog in pr 1.1? |
| 13:24.57 | razvanpetru | it says model is undefined... |
| 13:25.10 | razvanpetru | when looking at the device sources, they're not the same to my sdk ones! |
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| 13:31.49 | tjaalton | i'm trying to build meego-terminal using the sdk, but it fails importing MApplication |
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| 13:33.03 | tjaalton | so.. shouldn't it have all the libs that came with the sdk available? |
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| 14:01.16 | abinader | hi all :) does anyone know how to run fenix on device without detaching console output? |
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| 15:18.55 | MohammadAG | Think ill be getting the n950 tomorrow |
| 15:19.38 | SpeedEvil | Good luck! |
| 15:19.42 | SpeedEvil | It's passed customs? |
| 15:20.08 | MohammadAG | No, but they asked for an email this time |
| 15:20.20 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 15:20.24 | MohammadAG | Which is sth they did for th n900 and n950 |
| 15:20.31 | MohammadAG | The first one at least |
| 15:20.52 | MohammadAG | And the ddp n900 not the first one |
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| 15:35.59 | b3ll | hey |
| 15:37.39 | b3ll | I'm having difficulty implementing the fast scrollbar used in the contacts/music apps |
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| 15:39.17 | rcg1 | b3ll: I assume you are using QML |
| 15:39.21 | b3ll | I'm implementing a sectionscroller, but instead of the harmattan magnified-style scrolling, I'm getting this non-native black panel, like this : http://ruedigergad.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/sectionscroller.png |
| 15:39.23 | rcg1 | + SectionScroller |
| 15:39.34 | b3ll | rcg1: yeah qml, sorry I didn't mention that |
| 15:40.05 | rcg1 | afaik that's what the stock QML SectionScroller looks like |
| 15:40.24 | rcg1 | i think there was some project to bring the look and feel of e.g. the contacts scroller to QML |
| 15:40.36 | b3ll | that's only available with c++? |
| 15:40.54 | rcg1 | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4600&highlight=SectionScroller |
| 15:41.27 | rcg1 | that's a guide on how to make a QML SectionScroller look like the one that can be found in the contacts app |
| 15:41.29 | b3ll | yeah I saw that one, wasn't sure if I was using the 'right' stock SectionScroller |
| 15:41.39 | b3ll | okay thanks! |
| 15:41.54 | rcg1 | afaik the contacts app uses mtf.. meego touch framework iirc |
| 15:42.11 | rcg1 | which is c++ iirc |
| 15:42.19 | rcg1 | or c? dunno exactly |
| 15:42.28 | b3ll | yeah c++ |
| 15:44.15 | b3ll | I'll give it a go, if it doesn't work out I'll use c++ |
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| 15:51.00 | b3ll | rcg1 : for future reference, it works quite nicely, thanks! |
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| 15:57.20 | rcg1 | yw :) maybe it's worth to drop ph5 a feedback in the thread |
| 15:58.29 | b3ll | oh I will be for sure! |
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| 18:08.05 | tomyri | why aegis doesn't grant mce::TKLockControl credential policy to my application? |
| 18:08.25 | tomyri | it just says "denied 'mce::TKLockControl' -- origin '' does not allow it" |
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| 18:11.47 | SpeedEvil | Origins have different capability lists that tehy can be granted. This varies from 'self-signed' ones, ovi store, and nokia. |
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| 18:12.15 | SpeedEvil | I don't off-hand know about mce::tklock |
| 18:12.37 | jonni | tomyri: you need to sign deb package with com.nokia.maemo pgp key to get it working |
| 18:12.58 | DocScrutinizer | bwahaha |
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| 18:13.48 | DocScrutinizer | look how confortly paegis is protecting us from possible threats |
| 18:14.20 | tomyri | jonni: ok, nice |
| 18:16.21 | jonni | DocScrutinizer: I've installed my selfsigned PGP keys as com.nokia.maemo origin, so would be no problems in my N9, but yes, no way to get it on ovi store. |
| 18:17.18 | DocScrutinizer | jonni: evil hax0r! XD |
| 18:19.22 | jonni | anyways normal apps shouldnt even need that credential, or atleast I dont see any usecase |
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| 18:21.10 | tomyri | so what I should use to block screensaver? |
| 18:21.55 | jonni | so you want to change screensaver not to appear? |
| 18:22.01 | tomyri | yes |
| 18:24.41 | jonni | tomyri: I usually run this small script from my old usual scripts dir, turns display as bright as it can be and puts timeouts to be a few years :) http://pastebin.com/np1N8CG4 |
| 18:25.52 | jonni | great for developing since dont have to worry about screensavers |
| 18:28.30 | jonni | but should not really be used in applications :) |
| 18:28.48 | tomyri | :) |
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| 18:51.38 | JackaLX | I tried (very unsuccessfully) to edit /etc/init/ssh.conf on my N9 to allow root login. Long story, short... aegis has locked me out of my phone. |
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| 18:52.30 | villager | perhaps you should have edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 18:53.03 | JackaLX | well /etc/init/ssh.conf overrides the sshd_config |
| 18:53.06 | JackaLX | that's why |
| 18:53.17 | JackaLX | I know I can fix with a re-flash |
| 18:53.23 | villager | well, editing sshd_config worked fine for me |
| 18:53.57 | JackaLX | but... I only have a PR1.0 image and it won't let me downgrade (phone was on PR1.1) |
| 18:54.22 | villager | I haven't locked myself out, so not sure what else you can do than reflash |
| 18:54.37 | villager | anybody else awake here and knows? |
| 18:54.39 | JackaLX | The problem I have right now is that I don't have access to any windows machines so can't use navifirm to get the latest image |
| 18:55.09 | JackaLX | what I need is a place to download the PR1.1 image from a Linux machine |
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| 18:57.27 | JackaLX | Does anyone know where I can download N9 PR1.1 images from that doesn't require me to be using a windows computer to do so? |
| 18:57.56 | Guest44539 | use wine in linux |
| 18:59.37 | JackaLX | Guest44539: and navifirm works ok through wine? |
| 18:59.40 | villager | hmm, I should check what firmware I run, maybe the operator's apparently-custom firmware does not have a PR 1.1 version |
| 19:00.12 | Guest44539 | yes |
| 19:00.22 | Guest44539 | i am running it right now |
| 19:00.28 | JackaLX | OK, I'll do that then. Thanks! |
| 19:01.37 | Guest44539 | thogh u need to install .net2 with winetricks |
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| 19:39.26 | Sazpaimon_ | i just noticed PR1.1 fixes rotating on the app menu list |
| 19:39.33 | Sazpaimon_ | if you enable homescreen rotation |
| 19:39.43 | Sazpaimon_ | on 1.0, app icons would dissapear when you rotate, doesnt happen now |
| 19:39.50 | JackaLX | yes, I was pleased to see that |
| 19:51.00 | Sazpaimon_ | I still cant figure out how to get PR1.1 dev packages |
| 19:54.42 | Sazpaimon_ | thankfully the latest meego-terminal builds on PR1.0 now |
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| 20:04.28 | harbaum | My n950 was acting weird so i decided to reset it to the factory settings from the settings app. Now it not doing more than just displaying a circular arrow to the left. What's that? I can't switch it on nor off, it just sits there with the which arrow on black screen ... |
| 20:05.23 | harbaum | What does that arrow mean? "Return to nokia" or what? |
| 20:05.55 | SpeedEvil | Does the arrow rotate when you move the device? Maybe it points to finland. |
| 20:06.05 | harbaum | :-) |
| 20:07.01 | harbaum | Will try a one-click-flasher now ... |
| 20:07.06 | Sazpaimon_ | send to to me, I'm sure I can fix it |
| 20:07.16 | Sazpaimon_ | ;) |
| 20:12.02 | harbaum | I can switch it off by pressing the power button for 8 seconds ... and when i switch it on again, it says "Nokia" for a few seconds and then the arrow again .... grrrrrr |
| 20:22.56 | jonni | JackaLX: ssh.conf is protected by refhashlist, in PR1.1 you can do following http://sintonen.fi/n9_pr1.1_remote_root_ssh_login.txt |
| 20:27.19 | kimju | nice workaround. |
| 20:29.30 | JackaLX | jonni: thanks for that. I'll do that once I get my phone back up and running again |
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| 20:30.43 | gabriel9 | is there any class for flash(light) on N9 |
| 20:32.05 | jonni | kimju: second optional workaround is devel-su -c "echo root2:SU.odxvRwp3Vs:0:0:root:/root:/bin/sh >> /etc/passwd" that way you just do ssh root2@192.168.2.15 |
| 20:32.10 | SpeedEvil | gabriel9: class? |
| 20:32.18 | gabriel9 | class api |
| 20:32.23 | gabriel9 | anything |
| 20:32.27 | SpeedEvil | gabriel9: it's part of video4linux |
| 20:32.40 | gabriel9 | dualflash |
| 20:32.43 | SpeedEvil | It's a control built into the camera API |
| 20:32.48 | gabriel9 | aha |
| 20:32.59 | gabriel9 | i was thinking it is in mobility api |
| 20:33.11 | SpeedEvil | I don't know if it's exposed in any higher layer |
| 20:34.18 | gabriel9 | i don't have that much time |
| 20:35.04 | SpeedEvil | There is a flashlight app in ovi |
| 20:35.22 | gabriel9 | yes i see but i wish to create my own :) |
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| 20:40.38 | JackaLX | gabriel9: your best bet would probably be to get in contact with that flashlight app author. |
| 20:41.02 | gabriel9 | if he would like to help |
| 20:42.06 | ZogG_laptop | hey guys |
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| 20:43.51 | gabriel9 | hi |
| 20:45.39 | JackaLX | gabriel9: well, even if he doesn't want to help you code your app, he might at least give you the source to his so you can see how he's done it. :-) |
| 20:45.54 | gabriel9 | i hope so |
| 20:46.05 | JackaLX | can't hurt to ask |
| 20:47.40 | gabriel9 | i contacted him |
| 20:47.47 | gabriel9 | i also find this: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#Imaging_subsystem |
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| 20:48.29 | ZogG_laptop | hmm sdk installation error - exited with code 127 failed to execute ~/QtSDK/Simulator/Application/simulator - registeronly |
| 20:51.38 | harbaum | What kind of joke is that? I reflashed the n950 and it still shows this arrow???? |
| 20:51.56 | Stskeeps | can you photo the arrow? |
| 20:53.19 | ZogG_laptop | harbaum: maybe it's in ~/ as some setting? |
| 20:53.30 | ZogG_laptop | so any idea of SDK installation error? |
| 20:54.24 | harbaum | A setting that survives a complete reflash of kernel, xloader, roofs and emmc??? |
| 20:54.29 | gabriel9 | nop |
| 20:54.36 | gabriel9 | sorry |
| 20:54.49 | gabriel9 | N9 is really god for texting |
| 20:55.49 | ZogG_laptop | harbaum: no way =( |
| 20:56.16 | ZogG_laptop | harbaum: check if it flashed kernel, as i know few had problems with not full flash while update |
| 20:56.18 | harbaum | The OCF claims that flashing was successful |
| 20:57.04 | jonni | harbaum: some settings can remain, you need to add --erase-user-data=secure --erase-mmc=secure to ./flasher parameters if you really want to wipe everything |
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| 20:58.46 | ZogG_laptop | harbaum: how did you got there in first place? i mean how did you get arrow, as well you can try to google how to make arrow visible to reverse it |
| 20:59.01 | harbaum | The arrow: http://www.harbaum.org/n950_arrow.jpg |
| 20:59.41 | Stskeeps | uh |
| 20:59.44 | Stskeeps | yeah, that's new |
| 20:59.52 | ZogG_laptop | i thought you see arrow as mouse arrow |
| 20:59.53 | harbaum | The device was acting broken, many program wouldn't launch, i had empty green icons in the launcher without label etc ect ... so i tried to reset it to factory settings |
| 21:00.18 | Stskeeps | harbaum: do a emmc erase too maybe |
| 21:00.19 | jonni | harbaum: oh, that kind of arrow, have you tried to press powerbutton down for 40seconds untill vibra shakes? :) |
| 21:00.33 | ZogG_laptop | harbaum: try reflashing again, no other ideas |
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| 21:00.55 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: what this would do |
| 21:01.30 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: just would do a really good reboot ;) |
| 21:02.32 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: and also helps on flashing issues, as after vibra shake it 1st goes to flashing mode. |
| 21:03.00 | harbaum | jonni: 40 sec press when on or when off? |
| 21:03.13 | jonni | harbaum: it doesnt matter :) |
| 21:03.46 | jonni | works both ways |
| 21:04.35 | harbaum | still the Nokia logo for a few seconds then that arrow |
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| 21:05.43 | harbaum | ./Linux_OCF_39-5_RM680-RM680-OEM1.bin: error - unrecognized option: --erase-user-data=secure |
| 21:06.01 | jonni | ah then "./flasher --erase-user-data=secure --erase-mmc=secure -f -F firmware.bin -F emmc.bin -R" that should make it like it came out of factory. |
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| 21:06.37 | harbaum | where to find the flasher? |
| 21:06.51 | SpeedEvil | I disproved those allegations. |
| 21:07.10 | SpeedEvil | I was merely checking my coat was fastened when I suffered a wardrobe malfunction. |
| 21:08.18 | jonni | harbaum: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php |
| 21:12.44 | harbaum | jonni: And how do i get the firmware image out of the OCF-Package? |
| 21:13.51 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: maybe u can help m with sdk installation btw |
| 21:14.11 | SpeedEvil | If you interrupt it when it pauses to check for stuff, you find that it's unpacked all the files. |
| 21:14.44 | JackaLX | OK, so aegis currently has me by the short and curlies and locked me out of my N9 (I get a "Device not working properly") because /etc/init/ssh.conf is messed up (last time I saw it it was zero length). |
| 21:14.56 | JackaLX | What is going to be the most painless way of fixing that? |
| 21:15.12 | JackaLX | by "painless" I mean "without losing user data" |
| 21:15.26 | harbaum | SpeedEvil: Thanks, will try that |
| 21:16.23 | jonni | JackaLX: "without losing user data" -> boot to Nemo, copy original ssh.conf back to mounted filesystem, and boot back to normal mode |
| 21:17.11 | gabriel9 | i bought snowboard |
| 21:17.14 | JackaLX | jonni: that sounds good, but how do I boot to Nemo (what is that BTW) |
| 21:17.15 | gabriel9 | 10€ |
| 21:17.20 | jonni | JackaLX: and rm /var/malf file before booting back to normal mode. almost forgotten that one. there is step by step forum post. |
| 21:17.37 | gabriel9 | burton t53, anyone can tell me is this ok board for begginers |
| 21:18.58 | jonni | JackaLX: in here http://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state |
| 21:19.40 | heikrnen | JackaLX: Information about Nemo: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 |
| 21:21.57 | JackaLX | jonni: that looks like just what I need. awesome! thank you so very much!! |
| 21:22.04 | JackaLX | heikrnen: thanks for that! |
| 21:23.16 | heikrnen | JackaLX: but I have no clue how to boot N9 into it - N9 does not have microSD.. and the bootloader needs to be dual boot as well |
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| 21:25.35 | harbaum | argh ... the OCF creates a /tmp/selfextract.xxxx which it then deletes if i kill OCF ... |
| 21:28.26 | harbaum | jonni: firmware.bin is img.bin from the extracted OCF? |
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| 21:31.58 | harbaum | BTW: What _is_ that arrow? |
| 21:32.39 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: maybe u can help m with sdk installation btw/ |
| 21:32.47 | ZogG_laptop | damn double post =( |
| 21:33.00 | heikrnen | harbaum: return to service? ;) |
| 21:33.33 | harbaum | So none of you has ever seen it? |
| 21:39.02 | heikrnen | Which is the recommended wiki for harmattan platform sdk from now on? developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki has "archived" all platform SDK stuff since "it is not considered relevant for third-party developers creating commercial solutions today. " Is there any way to get those back? |
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| 21:47.02 | ZogG_laptop | found the problem |
| 21:47.13 | ZogG_laptop | it depend on libpng-1.2 while i have 1.5 =\ |
| 21:49.55 | harbaum | Erasing the emmc really takes forever ... and now the flasher wants to do it twice .... |
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| 22:03.53 | harbaum | ah, the n950 is alive again :-) |
| 22:04.20 | heikrnen | concratulations harbaum! |
| 22:04.39 | harbaum | jonni: Thanks for your help! |
| 22:05.10 | gri | gabriel9: 10 for a snowboard? wow :D |
| 22:05.18 | gabriel9 | yea |
| 22:05.21 | gabriel9 | i'ts old |
| 22:05.33 | gabriel9 | burton t52 but in really good shape |
| 22:05.35 | gabriel9 | :) |
| 22:05.46 | gri | how old is old? |
| 22:06.05 | gabriel9 | +10y |
| 22:06.05 | gri | I use mine for 9 years now and it still does its job :) |
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| 22:06.48 | gabriel9 | and today i found boots for 35€ northwave freadom |
| 22:07.16 | gabriel9 | i don't mind years, i just need to find out is it good for absolute begginers |
| 22:08.07 | gri | I don't know any difference between beginner boards and others. I would say as long as your feet fit on it it's ok :) |
| 22:09.13 | gabriel9 | this one fits good |
| 22:09.14 | gabriel9 | :) |
| 22:09.15 | b3ll | I heard iron boots are always great for boarding :-P |
| 22:09.19 | gri | wax it, give em sharp edges and it runs |
| 22:10.13 | gri | Don't try to teach snowboarding yourself, get a trainer :P |
| 22:10.38 | gri | (if not already done) |
| 22:10.51 | b3ll | yeah, you can seriously mess up your ankle, learn to walk with it first, and then stop |
| 22:11.16 | gabriel9 | i watch on yt :DF |
| 22:11.16 | gabriel9 | here is no trainer |
| 22:12.12 | gri | hmm |
| 22:12.20 | gri | are you used to skiing? |
| 22:13.36 | gabriel9 | wehn i was i little i made skis from blinds and it was great |
| 22:13.39 | gabriel9 | :D |
| 22:14.10 | gabriel9 | and i knew how to skee back then without stripes or anything |
| 22:14.26 | gabriel9 | just stand on that improvised stuff and go |
| 22:14.39 | gri | yeah, that part is much harder on a snowboard :) |
| 22:15.04 | gabriel9 | i cant wait to try it |
| 22:15.12 | gri | you fall down many more times |
| 22:15.13 | gabriel9 | i got my N9 full of videos :D |
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| 22:15.50 | gri | I have three friends who tried snowboarding without a trainer and failed or hurt themselves :D |
| 22:16.54 | gabriel9 | i will go slowly |
| 22:17.22 | gri | gabriel9: Which country are you at? |
| 22:17.30 | gabriel9 | first to learn how to stand, then some falling, then how to stoping |
| 22:17.35 | gabriel9 | Republic Serbska |
| 22:17.45 | gabriel9 | part of the Bosnian And Hercegovina |
| 22:17.55 | gri | too far from here :) |
| 22:18.01 | gabriel9 | you? |
| 22:18.04 | gri | germany |
| 22:18.11 | gabriel9 | not so far :) |
| 22:18.17 | gabriel9 | my father was in germany |
| 22:18.21 | gri | yeah, but too far for one day skiing |
| 22:18.36 | gabriel9 | that's true |
| 22:19.02 | gri | try on a small hill |
| 22:19.07 | gri | with one foot in the binding |
| 22:19.14 | gri | and the other one on the board but not inside |
| 22:19.29 | gri | that's important for getting out of a lift safely :) |
| 22:19.39 | gabriel9 | yea i imagine that |
| 22:20.12 | gabriel9 | i think it is good sport |
| 22:20.58 | gri | I really like it |
| 22:21.05 | gri | my favourite sport of the year :) |
| 22:21.29 | gabriel9 | also for summer it is nice to ride byke |
| 22:21.37 | gabriel9 | on the hills |
| 22:22.25 | gabriel9 | sorry for bad eng |
| 22:22.35 | gri | If I weren't that lazy ... my bike has a motor and has fast acceleration even up the hill :D |
| 22:23.11 | gabriel9 | it is nice |
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| 22:25.49 | gabriel9 | maybe i will come to germany, if there is nice ski tracks |
| 22:26.17 | gabriel9 | they give us visas so we can spend monney :D |
| 22:27.04 | gabriel9 | i was thinking to go on Qt developers days, but i could not get free days from my boss |
| 22:27.09 | gri | well, we have the alps :) |
| 22:27.39 | gabriel9 | yea you got alps :) |
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| 22:51.01 | JackaLX | jonni: thanks much for all your help, mate. I'm back up and running again now. |
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| 22:57.19 | Venemo | hey bradas |
| 22:57.21 | JackaLX | crap! it did it again |
| 22:58.52 | JackaLX | I didn't have an original ssh.conf to put back in place so I copy/paste from a web site... the shasum must be wrong (whitespace probably) |
| 22:59.32 | JackaLX | where can I get my hands on /etc/init/ssh.conf from PR1.1? |
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| 23:27.44 | JackaLX | I'm blown away by how friendly and helpful you guys are in here. You all rock!! |
| 23:47.24 | DocScrutinizer | >> |
| 23:47.25 | DocScrutinizer | The latest additions to your Nokia Developer Prototype Device Loaning Service include the following phones: |
| 23:47.27 | DocScrutinizer | Nokia Asha 300 (Series 40)Nokia Asha 303 (Series 40)Nokia 603 (Symbian Belle)C2-05 (Series 40)X2-05 (Series 40)X3-02.05 (X3-02 Touch and Type update) (Series 40)N9 (Meego) |
| 23:47.28 | DocScrutinizer | See your intranet to request proto loan phones: http://wl4.peer360.com/b/W2Hn9fwcsfho42ophTvn/mle.asp?EID=205995&hl=114433387&r=CBCEBBJ |
| 23:47.30 | DocScrutinizer | << |
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| 23:55.02 | DocScrutinizer | wonders if Nokia is aware of the less-than-3-seconds effect found by IBM, and the fact that Nokia $random_page needs like 45s to download and render on a standard PC with standard DSL(!) internet connection |
| 23:58.16 | DocScrutinizer | @nokia: nobody, literally noone give a flying f*ck about your wallpapers and nifty flash animations when it needs >5s to load and render the page |
| 23:58.30 | ieatlint | i got that same email... but the DDP page for my (individual) launchpad membership is always empty |
| 23:58.39 | ieatlint | only time i've ever seen something on it was for the n950 |
| 23:58.59 | DocScrutinizer | same here, F U Nokia |
