| 00:53.22 | jesuschrist | anyone alive? |
| 00:53.48 | Clint | no |
| 00:54.07 | jesuschrist | do you have a n9 clit ? |
| 00:54.39 | jesuschrist | clit ? |
| 00:57.47 | Clint | jesuschrist: n950 |
| 00:57.48 | SpeedEvil | I was considering one for my n950. |
| 00:58.15 | jesuschrist | how much space has the n950 ? |
| 00:58.58 | SpeedEvil | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/aluminum-alloy-joystick-for-ipad-ipod-iphone-4-black-100687 |
| 00:59.04 | SpeedEvil | You can't buy a n950 |
| 00:59.13 | jesuschrist | i dont care |
| 00:59.17 | jesuschrist | i dont want a n950 |
| 00:59.24 | jesuschrist | im interested in the n9 partitions |
| 00:59.38 | jesuschrist | want to check if the n950 is the same |
| 01:00.05 | jesuschrist | nice joystick anyway |
| 01:01.15 | SpeedEvil | cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name |
| 01:01.15 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.48 | jesuschrist | same |
| 01:02.57 | jesuschrist | so the n950 has 16 gb ? |
| 01:03.44 | SpeedEvil | This one does. |
| 01:04.05 | jesuschrist | are there other variants? |
| 01:06.10 | SpeedEvil | I have no idea. |
| 01:06.15 | SpeedEvil | In principle, there could be. |
| 01:06.38 | SpeedEvil | Given there was likely one initial batch - I suspect the chances of many 64Gs are small |
| 01:07.09 | jesuschrist | the 16gb model has in fact writeable and usable 8.8 gb |
| 01:07.51 | DocScrutinizer | yeah :-/ |
| 01:07.59 | DocScrutinizer | uselss |
| 01:08.41 | jesuschrist | i guess 90% of the usare are nokia maps |
| 01:09.04 | jesuschrist | of uzbekistan thundra i bet |
| 01:09.55 | SpeedEvil | No. |
| 01:10.16 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.17 | DocScrutinizer | mount|grep aegisfs |
| 01:11.37 | jesuschrist | meaning SpeedEvil ? |
| 01:11.56 | SpeedEvil | There is 5G free on the non-user-accessible filesystems |
| 01:12.05 | jesuschrist | i see |
| 01:12.11 | SpeedEvil | Part of this is an artifact of the way it's dealt with. |
| 01:12.23 | jesuschrist | usable for apps i guess |
| 01:12.24 | SpeedEvil | In order to be able to plug into a PC, it has to be a completely seperate drive. |
| 01:12.43 | jesuschrist | hmmm |
| 01:12.44 | SpeedEvil | Which means you can't really share space with the main filesystem. |
| 01:13.41 | jesuschrist | why so much space left out? |
| 01:16.01 | DocScrutinizer | for QML apps X-D |
| 01:16.07 | SpeedEvil | Because if / or /home runs out of space, bad things happen. |
| 01:17.16 | DocScrutinizer | and - you know - there's no more dmesg and so the system *needs* syslog, and you can't rm /var/log/syslog ;-P |
| 01:18.06 | jesuschrist | cool, 2 gb log |
| 01:18.14 | DocScrutinizer | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4763318 Nov 1 02:03 /var/log/syslog |
| 01:18.27 | jesuschrist | 4 mega |
| 01:18.31 | jesuschrist | in ? |
| 01:18.34 | jesuschrist | 2 weeks? |
| 01:18.40 | DocScrutinizer | err |
| 01:18.58 | DocScrutinizer | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 8041595 Aug 13 14:35 /var/log/syslog.old |
| 01:19.05 | jesuschrist | rotating |
| 01:19.06 | jesuschrist | lol |
| 01:19.10 | DocScrutinizer | yeeha! it has logrotate |
| 01:19.21 | jesuschrist | wtf |
| 01:19.28 | jesuschrist | it wont rotate forever anyway |
| 01:19.38 | jesuschrist | i bet i will keep max a month |
| 01:19.42 | jesuschrist | *it |
| 01:20.20 | DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# head -n 1 /var/log/syslog |
| 01:20.22 | DocScrutinizer | Aug 13 14:36:04 (none) syslogd 1.5.0#5maemo3.12+0m6: restart. |
| 01:21.02 | jesuschrist | lol |
| 01:21.06 | jesuschrist | and the old one? |
| 01:21.29 | DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# head -n 1 /var/log/syslog.old |
| 01:21.31 | DocScrutinizer | Jul 9 17:12:42 (none) syslogd 1.5.0#5maemo3.12+0m6: restart. |
| 01:22.38 | jesuschrist | cool |
| 01:22.43 | jesuschrist | well this huge |
| 01:22.49 | jesuschrist | things are gonna be fixed |
| 01:22.54 | jesuschrist | with 1.1 for sure |
| 01:22.59 | jesuschrist | what firmware are you running |
| 01:23.01 | jesuschrist | doc |
| 01:25.22 | jesuschrist | anyway i cant log to ovi store either |
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| 03:54.39 | djszapi | Morning! Any Mac users having Qt installed ? |
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| 04:02.13 | ieatlint | djszapi: yes |
| 04:02.40 | ieatlint | actually, rephrase that, I have the qt sdk installed, but the libs aren't in my libdir |
| 04:02.44 | djszapi | ieatlint: Could you please help me with trying just to build our project ? |
| 04:02.50 | ieatlint | sure |
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| 04:03.00 | ieatlint | git? |
| 04:03.04 | djszapi | We tried it a while ago, but we do not have Mac developer continously, just Windows and Linux :p |
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| 04:03.39 | djszapi | I was fixing build issues when I could borrow Mac machines. |
| 04:03.42 | ieatlint | i wouldn't call myself a mac developer, i use a linux laptop as my primary, and a macbook air for portability |
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| 05:04.05 | npm | heh... this one worked unexpectedly, after the fourth randon edit t the pipeline: aegis-exec -a "GRP::video" -a "GRP::pulse-access" gst-launch-0.10 -v ximagesrc ! ffmpegcolorspace ! jpegenc ! multipartmux ! filesink location=screenlapse.mjpeg |
| 05:04.11 | npm | but how do i add sound |
| 05:04.13 | npm | ? |
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| 05:05.19 | npm | attempting to make video of http://code.google.com/p/voicetogoog/ |
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| 06:12.44 | npm | very strange first time I scp ... screenlapse.mjpeg 1% 6608KB 1.7MB/s - stalled -^CKilled by signal 2. |
| 06:12.49 | npm | second time screenlapse.mjpeg 49% 201MB 6.7MB/s 00:31 ETA |
| 06:12.59 | npm | meegolem-134-~> scp user@usb0:screenlapse.mjpeg /media/gnulem-npm/appup/voicetogoog_0.1.0.mjpeg |
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| 07:02.45 | xsacha | hey guys, i'm having trouble running an app that I ported using Qt |
| 07:03.22 | xsacha | it complains "Failed to connect to remote themedaemon. Retrying in one second." over and over |
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| 07:07.03 | xsacha | oh cause i was trying to run as root |
| 07:07.22 | xsacha | but when i run through app launcher, nothing happens at all |
| 07:14.07 | xsacha | no errors, no window |
| 07:15.25 | xsacha | "Using the meego graphics system" then nothing.. |
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| 07:38.20 | npm | xsacha: yesteday i saw meego-terminal option: [-local-theme] Force usage of local theme processing instead of remote theme daemon |
| 07:42.42 | Hq` | are you sure you are calling show() for your window? |
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| 07:55.17 | xsacha | Hq`: definitely calling view.show(), the app is definitely running, i can use qDebug() << "Test" and it is printed |
| 07:55.22 | xsacha | no window ever appears |
| 07:55.56 | xsacha | it's a QML app and i set the source qml file with: view.setSource(QString("qrc:/qml/app/main.qml")); |
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| 07:59.07 | mece | xsacha, paste the main.cpp |
| 07:59.52 | mece | also, is main.qml in the qrc file? |
| 08:01.29 | mece | xsacha, here's one that I know works: http://pastie.org/2792257 I have view.showFullscreen(); instead of view.show() |
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| 08:26.22 | xsacha | mece: the same app works on windows, symbian and playbook |
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| 08:27.57 | xsacha | mece: http://pastebin.com/An1G3k1q |
| 08:30.11 | xsacha | mece: (with platform defines removed): http://pastebin.com/PiJsBUyK |
| 08:39.27 | xarcass | xsacha: is there a working playbook port of the Qt? |
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| 08:39.50 | xsacha | yes |
| 08:40.13 | xsacha | there was a port a while made, unofficial. but now RIM has ported one themselves, officially |
| 08:40.18 | xsacha | while back* |
| 08:40.45 | xsacha | xarcass: https://github.com/blackberry/Qt |
| 08:40.46 | xarcass | xsacha: where should I look to find it? |
| 08:40.55 | xarcass | xsacha: thanks |
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| 08:42.02 | xsacha | RIM ported heaps of libraries such as SDL, Box2D, Bullet, Cocos2D, GamePlay, and OS games like DosBox, Wesnoth. There's also engines like phonegap, unreal engine, unity3d and such |
| 08:43.11 | xsacha | still can't get why my game doesn't work on harmattan :( |
| 08:43.13 | xarcass | xsacha: Could you please tell me whether there are any problems with debug and deployment? |
| 08:43.33 | xsacha | xarcass: of.. Playbook? |
| 08:44.27 | xarcass | xsacha: yes, i've never used it, though I wish I had. I'm considering buying one |
| 08:44.43 | xsacha | well they're cheap now. you can whim me or talk in #playbook-dev |
| 08:45.54 | xarcass | xsacha: price is not an issue for me, suitability for app development - that's what I am interested in |
| 08:50.58 | mece | xsacha, so where does the thing crash? |
| 08:51.41 | xsacha | it doesn't crash |
| 08:51.53 | mece | xsacha, black screen? |
| 08:51.55 | xsacha | no errors, still running |
| 08:51.59 | xsacha | screen doesn't change |
| 08:52.11 | xsacha | no window appears for my ap |
| 08:52.15 | mece | ow. |
| 08:54.32 | xsacha | i have got other apps working so definitely something unique to my app |
| 08:54.33 | mece | xsacha, I'd guess the problem lies in qmlapplicationviewer. |
| 08:55.19 | mece | is there some special magic in there or could you try just using QtDeclarativeView instead? |
| 08:55.45 | xsacha | it's just the ordinary generic cod |
| 08:56.23 | mece | xsacha, I've never used that. I just put QDeclarativeView instead |
| 08:56.55 | xsacha | it set that up for me when i made the symbian version |
| 08:57.01 | mece | oh.. |
| 08:59.28 | mece | xsacha, try something like this: http://pastebin.com/2dnkzQfg |
| 08:59.40 | mece | ooh nice. Never saw that you get the diff in pastie. cool :D |
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| 09:00.09 | xsacha | yeah first thing i clicked on :) |
| 09:00.59 | mece | for some reason the orientation gets locked in landscape if you don't use qt quick components btw. |
| 09:01.58 | xsacha | ok |
| 09:03.26 | deram | isn't it then the way your computer works too.. all applications are locked to landscape if no special portrait logic is in use? |
| 09:04.00 | xsacha | not on symbian |
| 09:04.36 | xsacha | it rotates your application using clunky Avkon windowing methods. So I override it and rotate it my own way (which is instant) |
| 09:05.17 | deram | ok. but harmattan is closer to desktop linux than symbian, And I can see there is no full X11 display rotaton in use.. |
| 09:05.23 | xsacha | mece: i found the issue with the app. it turns out the main qml elements had no width and height |
| 09:05.29 | mece | :D |
| 09:05.36 | mece | xsacha, good |
| 09:05.55 | xsacha | mece: this wasn't working: object->setProperty("screenWidth", view.width()); |
| 09:06.01 | mece | hm |
| 09:06.14 | xsacha | so i hardcoded width and height and it gets an error this time |
| 09:06.44 | xsacha | qrc:/qml/rq/main.qml:14:5: Cannot override FINAL property |
| 09:07.43 | mece | xsacha, setResizeMode(QDeclarativeView::SizeRootObjectToView); |
| 09:08.05 | xsacha | ok |
| 09:08.25 | mece | xsacha, that error sounds like javascript error |
| 09:08.33 | mece | or. |
| 09:08.34 | mece | hm |
| 09:08.37 | xsacha | yeah it is |
| 09:08.41 | mece | ok :) |
| 09:08.52 | mece | well then you've made it into qml land at least :) |
| 09:09.07 | mece | xsacha, what game is it? |
| 09:09.15 | xsacha | where's the setResizeMode go? : |
| 09:09.27 | mece | the view |
| 09:09.31 | mece | view-> |
| 09:09.42 | mece | erm I've got to check that tho. I think it was like that. |
| 09:09.43 | xsacha | ok |
| 09:10.52 | mece | xsacha, yeah, tharr she blows: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/stable/qdeclarativeview.html |
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| 09:11.18 | mece | xsacha, http://doc.qt.nokia.com/stable/qdeclarativeview.html#resizeMode-prop |
| 09:11.36 | xsacha | still got some weird number for width/height.. i'll keep debugging |
| 09:13.20 | mece | xsacha, to make things really work properly for different platforms I suggest making a special qml main for each, and import the actual app into that. |
| 09:13.40 | xsacha | :\ hope that isn't required. it's working well so far |
| 09:13.45 | mece | ok :) |
| 09:14.16 | xsacha | most the app is in C++. just a few elements in qml |
| 09:14.33 | mece | oh ok then. |
| 09:15.00 | xsacha | i was considering making a special qml for playbook (because of its bezel) but don't think harmattan will need |
| 09:15.58 | mece | what's playbook again? |
| 09:16.17 | psycho_oreos | crackberry |
| 09:18.50 | mece | ah ok. |
| 09:18.57 | mece | that runs qt stuff? |
| 09:20.04 | deram | hmm... close application by swiping down uses application orientation, not device orientation.. |
| 09:20.41 | deram | feels odd when trying to close landscape locked application holding device portrait |
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| 09:23.36 | xsacha | i know :P |
| 09:23.44 | xsacha | mece: yes |
| 09:29.16 | dm8tbr | deram: what I have developed as a habit: only swipe away from the right or the bottom. |
| 09:31.33 | mece | I really want swipe manager to work again |
| 09:31.35 | mece | miss it so much |
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| 09:48.22 | xsacha | my n9 just got two software updates: openssh-server, openssh-client |
| 09:50.09 | xsacha | grr now i cant install stuff because software updater appeared .. dpkg status locked |
| 09:50.32 | deram | dm8tbr: that swipe to kill is disablable in config, but I think it is good way to exit application |
| 09:50.52 | deram | though, it should be the device up to down, not the applications |
| 09:51.03 | dm8tbr | deram: I use swipe to close a lot, that comment was for swipe _away_ |
| 09:51.24 | dm8tbr | xsacha: close the dialogue, wait a few minutes, works again |
| 09:51.35 | xsacha | any way to speed up that last part? |
| 09:51.55 | deram | dm8tbr: ok.. |
| 09:52.06 | xsacha | like deleting the lock file in debian |
| 09:52.20 | matrixx | xsacha: that will speed up :P |
| 09:52.22 | xsacha | that worked |
| 09:53.02 | dm8tbr | rm -rf / #that speeds up things too |
| 09:53.21 | xsacha | mece: still no window. i'm using code you pastebinned (QApplicationViewer) and hardcoded width/height |
| 09:53.46 | xarcass | xsacha: pkill pkg-mgr always works for me |
| 09:54.53 | deram | dm8tbr: do you know, which interface did the swipemanager use to set those actions earlier? is that api/config file usable still? |
| 09:55.05 | dm8tbr | no idea |
| 09:55.09 | deram | ok. |
| 09:56.41 | mece | xsacha, damne |
| 09:57.01 | mece | xsacha, whatever could it be? no error messages regarding not finding qml files or some stuff? |
| 09:57.06 | Kaadlajk | pkgmgr install-file -f something.deb, might also work |
| 09:57.17 | Kaadlajk | I just usually do, killall pkgmgrd |
| 09:57.29 | mece | Kaadlajk, me also |
| 09:57.56 | xsacha | apt-get update works too |
| 09:58.15 | xsacha | mece: nope, definitely finds and runs the qml file because i get an error if i do something bad there |
| 09:59.28 | xsacha | qDebug()'s stop working after the line: view.setSource(..) though |
| 09:59.56 | xsacha | view.height() and view.width() is correctly 854, 480. it's just that code never ran |
| 10:08.03 | xsacha | quite annoying. i'm going to have to do this the other way. going to start with a working app and then add my code to it |
| 10:08.04 | mece | xsacha, what is the root object? |
| 10:08.21 | mece | what type |
| 10:08.22 | xsacha | an Item |
| 10:08.26 | mece | k. |
| 10:08.40 | xsacha | it works on all other platforms so i don't see how it could be an issue with the qml |
| 10:09.03 | mece | how very weird. |
| 10:09.42 | xsacha | going to just switch qml files with my NFC app and then add the C++ code and see if it works |
| 10:10.35 | xsacha | mece: the qml app is definitely running by the way. i set up a timer and have it giving me info about the app (which is changing!) |
| 10:10.36 | mece | xsacha, try just putting a rectangle in the qml with some text in it |
| 10:10.37 | xsacha | just no window appears |
| 10:11.03 | mece | so weird |
| 10:11.45 | mece | did you set width: 854; height: 480; in the main.qml file? |
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| 10:12.11 | xsacha | yes |
| 10:13.26 | xsacha | does meego have Haptics? |
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| 10:26.34 | leinir | xsacha: meego's a bit broad, but harmattan does, yes :) |
| 10:26.57 | xsacha | bingo! i removed haptics effect and i can SEE! |
| 10:27.17 | xsacha | import QtMobility.feedback 1.1 ?? |
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| 10:52.22 | MohammadAG | xsacha, you're not the first person to say QtFeedback broke their code |
| 10:52.39 | MohammadAG | I tnink the C++ code works fine, I think |
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| 10:57.59 | faenil | goor morning everyone :) |
| 10:59.34 | MohammadAG | morning |
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| 11:34.40 | xsacha | how to do haptics in qml on n9 then? |
| 11:35.42 | leinir | well, create some simple wrapper class for the haptics yourself, and then expose that to your qml engine :) |
| 11:39.47 | xsacha | that sucks |
| 11:43.32 | leinir | Well, if you can create a self-contained test case showing the bug in the feedback stuff, post that to the bugtracker and it'll get fixed :) |
| 11:43.51 | xsacha | is there an easy way to check if the qml code is running on meego harmattan? |
| 11:44.01 | xsacha | or i should pass MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN in some variable? |
| 11:44.54 | xsacha | hmm, harmattan doesn't have QOrientationSensor either? |
| 11:47.39 | xsacha | nevermind |
| 11:53.35 | xsacha | hmm everything working. now just need to disable swiping |
| 11:54.09 | leinir | Nicely :) |
| 11:54.14 | leinir | What're you working on? :) |
| 11:54.27 | leinir | (since you want to disable swiping, i'm guessing a game) |
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| 12:03.59 | pinheiro_ | :) |
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| 12:30.51 | rafael2k | people, any anwser by nokia on why the sdk is stuck on beta2? |
| 12:31.34 | SpeedEvil | Because there aren't enough people working on it, as meego is a dead-end product. |
| 12:31.40 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 12:31.47 | rafael2k | :/ |
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| 12:41.29 | jesuschrist | :\ |
| 12:42.56 | rafael2k | wow, fm radio for N950!!! |
| 12:43.12 | rafael2k | fmrx_0.1.3 ! |
| 12:51.57 | Arkenoi | wonders if transmitter will work as well |
| 12:52.48 | deram | could that FM radio work on N9 also? |
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| 12:56.18 | clbr | deram: works nicely |
| 12:58.25 | rafael2k | ooops |
| 12:58.29 | rafael2k | here in the N950, no audio |
| 12:58.36 | rafael2k | any glue? |
| 12:58.59 | clbr | rafael2k: reboot, or try again |
| 12:59.12 | rafael2k | I installed the \(N9FanClub.com\)fmrx_0.1.3_armel.deb |
| 12:59.38 | rafael2k | clbr: lets see |
| 13:00.41 | xsacha | rafael2k: well, obvious things to check: do you have antenna (something in headphone jack) plugged in? |
| 13:00.51 | rafael2k | is there a "power on" button? |
| 13:00.57 | xsacha | have you tried rebooting phone (i have never needed this but some people say this is required) |
| 13:00.57 | rafael2k | no audio here |
| 13:01.13 | rafael2k | xsacha: headphone plugged |
| 13:01.25 | clbr | i'm using http://t.co/5E6mj394 (thomas perls gui) |
| 13:01.34 | SpeedEvil | Are you in an underground bunker with no FM reception? |
| 13:01.35 | clbr | you might have to toogle the on/off switch |
| 13:01.53 | xsacha | and lastly: are you sure the frequency you're using (eg. fmrx -f 106.9) exists |
| 13:02.33 | DocScrutinizer | Arkenoi: very low chances for FMTX |
| 13:02.40 | rafael2k | clbr: any .deb? |
| 13:03.11 | rafael2k | clbr: where is the on/off switch in the gui? |
| 13:03.15 | xsacha | fmtx won't work on n950 at all (it doesn't have the chip at all) |
| 13:03.37 | rafael2k | yeaaaaaaah! |
| 13:03.41 | rafael2k | even without headphones!!! |
| 13:03.44 | rafael2k | : ))))) |
| 13:03.46 | Arkenoi | iirc it was said it is single rx/tx chip |
| 13:03.55 | xsacha | n9 has rx/tx chip |
| 13:04.10 | xsacha | n950 has the non-tx variation |
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| 13:04.30 | DocScrutinizer | xsacha: it HAS the chip |
| 13:04.41 | xsacha | non-l version |
| 13:04.48 | rafael2k | good reception |
| 13:04.48 | DocScrutinizer | ooh ? really? |
| 13:04.55 | xsacha | definitely |
| 13:04.59 | rafael2k | no RDS available via gui yet |
| 13:05.39 | xsacha | rafael2k: strange. thought that'd be easiest part to pass from console to gui :P |
| 13:05.40 | rafael2k | thanks a lot people |
| 13:06.09 | rafael2k | xsacha: eheheh, I think I'll install the cli |
| 13:06.11 | DocScrutinizer | I didn't know the 1371 had to FMTX |
| 13:06.26 | DocScrutinizer | xsacha: citation needed |
| 13:06.49 | xsacha | check the manufacturer.. and it's a 1273 |
| 13:07.04 | DocScrutinizer | err 1271/3 yeah |
| 13:16.14 | DocScrutinizer | xsacha: >>FM TX: When FM is transmitting. FM (AFE) PM is entirely on. >> [ SPRAB95 WiLink 6.0-based (1271/3) Module Solution Overview << -- I'd like to get pointers to better datasheets, it seems there's pretty scarce documentation publicly available |
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| 13:19.02 | xsacha | you can ask manufacturer for datasheets :) |
| 13:20.04 | SpeedEvil | Who will then ignore you. |
| 13:20.37 | xsacha | i've had good experiences (and bad) before |
| 13:22.32 | DocScrutinizer | I *might* do that, but tbh I'm doing that only when I'm extremely interested in the chip *and* the device |
| 13:23.01 | DocScrutinizer | otherwise my whole day was just filled with signing NDA agreements etc |
| 13:24.02 | DocScrutinizer | xsacha: so if you say you know from better datasheets than I have that 1271 has no FMTX I tend to accept it for a fact |
| 13:24.51 | xsacha | n9 has, n950 doesn't ;) |
| 13:25.13 | xsacha | but it's probably a lost cause on both |
| 13:25.26 | DocScrutinizer | of course a citation of the datasheet passage saying so, plus TI's internal datasheet number was a nice move ;-D |
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| 13:26.07 | DocScrutinizer | I'd think quoting a singe sentence is OK, even on thos "NDA" datasheets |
| 13:27.30 | DocScrutinizer | yesyes, we all know about N9 having 1273 while N950 has 1271, and we also heard about the missing antenna several times |
| 13:27.51 | xsacha | 1271 has FM transmit too.. |
| 13:28.17 | xsacha | but there's two versions |
| 13:28.27 | DocScrutinizer | ahaaaa |
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| 13:30.09 | DocScrutinizer | many thanks for shedding some light on that |
| 13:30.11 | xsacha | DocScrutinizer: http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?contentId=29993&navigationId=12762&templateId=6123 "Both solutions support ... FM transmit and receive." |
| 13:30.33 | jesuschrist | guys anyone could help with the ovi store issue? |
| 13:31.17 | DocScrutinizer | xsacha: well, that'S what I recalled and why I wondered what you're talking about |
| 13:31.36 | leinir | jesuschrist: which one's that, then? |
| 13:32.24 | jesuschrist | leinir : the one who prevents users to login on the ovi store and nokia account |
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| 13:38.39 | leinir | Ah |
| 13:39.57 | xsacha | well last i heard people were resetting their device to get that working |
| 13:40.10 | xsacha | my device came with a nokia account already on it. so i'm assuming it's a known bug |
| 13:40.23 | jesuschrist | tried resetting 4 times today |
| 13:40.25 | jesuschrist | nothing changed |
| 13:42.09 | jesuschrist | your device already had a nokia account on it ? |
| 13:42.13 | jesuschrist | uh ? |
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| 13:46.09 | DocScrutinizer | HAH, R&D device I assume |
| 13:48.42 | leinir | It's kind of clever - if you've got your nokia account set up to some phone number, and move the sim into a new phone, it'll pick up your username that way :) felt a bit big brother when it happened to me, but it /is/ clever :) |
| 13:48.54 | DocScrutinizer | my suspicion still is there's a cookie or whatever that gets stored up and spoils the sh*t forever. My suggestion: create the account via web browser from your PC, reflash the device, do *NOT* allow it to go online until you have set up the account credentials. - mere handwaving except it worked for me that way |
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| 13:49.21 | jesuschrist | i did exactly that doc |
| 13:49.23 | jesuschrist | i |
| 13:49.28 | jesuschrist | created my account online |
| 13:49.37 | jesuschrist | oh |
| 13:49.38 | jesuschrist | you mean |
| 13:49.43 | jesuschrist | first yyou set credentials |
| 13:49.49 | jesuschrist | then you set up internet connection ? |
| 13:49.50 | jesuschrist | i may try |
| 13:49.53 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 13:50.17 | jesuschrist | last resetting |
| 13:50.19 | jesuschrist | before |
| 13:50.25 | jesuschrist | waiting for a fucking fix |
| 13:50.32 | jesuschrist | (seems a huge issue anyway) |
| 13:50.47 | DocScrutinizer | might as well be related to server load, and thus appear to be mere random |
| 13:50.55 | jesuschrist | no wait doc |
| 13:50.57 | jesuschrist | you cant save |
| 13:51.01 | jesuschrist | nokia account |
| 13:51.04 | jesuschrist | login and pass |
| 13:51.11 | jesuschrist | the page clean the data |
| 13:51.14 | jesuschrist | when you exit the app |
| 13:51.45 | jesuschrist | unless you succesfully login i bet |
| 13:52.21 | DocScrutinizer | anybody really interested might want to snoop the wlan traffic |
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| 13:52.49 | jesuschrist | its cleary a software issue imo |
| 13:52.56 | jesuschrist | not network related |
| 13:53.05 | DocScrutinizer | to tell whether (and what) wrong data gets sent by HARM, or wrong answer comes from Nokia |
| 13:53.50 | DocScrutinizer | and as that's all HTTPS I bet, you won't succed on this approach ;-D |
| 13:54.20 | jesuschrist | btw even findinf whats the problem |
| 13:54.27 | jesuschrist | still cant fix it |
| 13:54.34 | jesuschrist | im just trying to find a work around |
| 13:54.53 | jesuschrist | cant understand why hard resetting for me doesnt work |
| 13:54.53 | DocScrutinizer | hard to find a workaround with no clue what'S the problem |
| 13:57.35 | jesuschrist | syslog has the answer!!!1111!!! |
| 14:00.42 | DocScrutinizer | ???? :-o |
| 14:00.47 | DocScrutinizer | pastebin!! |
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| 14:01.17 | jesuschrist | hmm whats the ssh pass? |
| 14:01.25 | jesuschrist | rootme? |
| 14:01.41 | DocScrutinizer | yoh |
| 14:02.10 | DocScrutinizer | though... heard B2 doesn't allow root login via ssh any more |
| 14:02.19 | jesuschrist | wtf |
| 14:02.24 | jesuschrist | i sshed in yesterday |
| 14:02.30 | jesuschrist | and now it says access denied |
| 14:02.33 | jesuschrist | lol |
| 14:04.18 | jesuschrist | how so ? |
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| 14:04.21 | jesuschrist | any idea? |
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| 14:04.33 | jesuschrist | i read on the forum ppl succed on reflashing n9 |
| 14:04.38 | jesuschrist | i may give it a try |
| 14:04.43 | jesuschrist | its driving me crazy |
| 14:07.24 | Velmont | Oh? How so? With Nemo? |
| 14:07.47 | jesuschrist | i have no clue |
| 14:09.12 | jesuschrist | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4728&page=4 |
| 14:16.49 | xsacha | 50% |
| 14:17.30 | xsacha | flash video doesn't appear either |
| 14:17.32 | xsacha | only videos! |
| 14:18.00 | xsacha | wrong channel |
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| 14:21.31 | cityLights | ~seen MohammadAG |
| 14:21.39 | infobot | mohammadag is currently on #maemo (21h 43m 26s) #harmattan (21h 43m 26s) #meego (21h 43m 26s). Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 3h 22m 5s, last said: 'morning'. |
| 14:24.27 | nibbler | somehow the pictures and ringtones get fewer and fewer with every release :( after OTA-updating to 39-5 i still had that bookshelf&headphones wallpaper, using the OCF image made it disappear. |
| 14:24.49 | nibbler | on the bright side... i was able to sync it again with ovi suite. |
| 14:25.06 | jesuschrist | on nice |
| 14:25.13 | jesuschrist | you synced the ovi with n950? |
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| 14:30.47 | xsacha | you have to use an older version of suite (not latest one) |
| 14:30.55 | DocScrutinizer | sync to ovi works to some degree (not for calendar for example) |
| 14:30.59 | xsacha | to get your first sync done.. |
| 14:31.05 | xsacha | and then you can use any version after that |
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| 14:49.05 | CepiPerez | hey guys |
| 14:49.15 | CepiPerez | I get a ssh update today |
| 14:49.55 | CepiPerez | does somebody knows what's new? |
| 14:50.13 | deimos | no root access with that update :) |
| 14:50.28 | CepiPerez | shit |
| 14:50.34 | CepiPerez | thanks |
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| 14:50.44 | faenil | wait |
| 14:50.53 | faenil | that was already like that in latest update |
| 14:53.05 | jesuschrist | an update for n950 cepi ? |
| 14:54.49 | arcean | jesuschrist: updated openssh packages |
| 14:54.55 | jesuschrist | for n950 ? |
| 14:55.06 | arcean | yes |
| 14:55.06 | jesuschrist | because i suddendly cant access ssh on my n9 |
| 14:55.10 | jesuschrist | -_- |
| 14:56.09 | arcean | and you're trying to log in as root? |
| 14:56.48 | sandst1 | jesuschrist: ssh user@192.168.2.15 and devel-sh/devel-su/develsh/whatever the name was should do the job |
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| 14:59.43 | jesuschrist | im trying to log in as root |
| 14:59.45 | jesuschrist | yep |
| 14:59.54 | Venemo_N950 | hey guys |
| 14:59.58 | jesuschrist | whats the pass for the username:user |
| 15:00.49 | Venemo_N950 | could someone tell me how can I hack that Sym key combo thing so that I can enter accented letters on my N950? |
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| 15:13.34 | nibbler | jesuschrist: yup. works with 3.1.1.90 |
| 15:14.22 | jesuschrist | nice |
| 15:14.32 | jesuschrist | this means finally i will be able to sync my sms |
| 15:14.36 | jesuschrist | from my old nokia |
| 15:15.13 | matrixx | jesuschrist: passwd is same than for root |
| 15:15.30 | jesuschrist | ill try |
| 15:15.36 | jesuschrist | strange because yesterday i was able |
| 15:15.40 | jesuschrist | to ssh with root |
| 15:15.51 | matrixx | also possible to login as developer if the sdk connection is on |
| 15:15.53 | jesuschrist | before i hard resetted the device 10 times because |
| 15:16.02 | jesuschrist | of the ovi store issue |
| 15:16.19 | matrixx | for me it broke in 1.1 update |
| 15:16.45 | jesuschrist | any idea on the 1.1 for us n9 owners ? |
| 15:16.50 | berndhs | for me ovi store broke in the last firmware update, so did twitter, SIP is working |
| 15:17.15 | matrixx | I can't login in gtalk |
| 15:17.18 | matrixx | after 1.1 |
| 15:17.57 | matrixx | I think I'll put now some of my votes for the gtalk issue |
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| 15:19.22 | mece | hey does Qt.quit() no longer work in qtquick on harmattan? |
| 15:19.41 | berndhs | mece: still works in my code |
| 15:23.13 | nibbler | jesuschrist: the special thing is just that you don't have to re-pair it with ovi-suite after doing a re-flash. just restart ovi suite and sync again. done/done. |
| 15:23.29 | nibbler | jesuschrist: if you try to pair it again it tells you that the device is not supported. |
| 15:24.08 | jesuschrist | cool |
| 15:27.22 | jesuschrist | im more concerned on how to transfer sms |
| 15:27.37 | jesuschrist | if ovi suite begin to support n9 |
| 15:27.44 | jesuschrist | its great new |
| 15:27.45 | jesuschrist | s |
| 15:32.04 | jesuschrist | still cant access |
| 15:32.05 | jesuschrist | ssh |
| 15:32.09 | jesuschrist | even with user |
| 15:33.35 | jesuschrist | hmm i see |
| 15:33.39 | jesuschrist | i have permitrootlogin no |
| 15:33.46 | jesuschrist | in sshd_config |
| 15:33.52 | jesuschrist | i wonder how did i connect yesterday... |
| 15:36.17 | jesuschrist | on the terminal there are no arrows on the virtual key ? |
| 15:37.13 | jesuschrist | first thing : go nano, fuck vi :d |
| 15:38.39 | jesuschrist | how to scroll |
| 15:38.41 | jesuschrist | without |
| 15:38.44 | jesuschrist | arrows guys ? |
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| 15:39.33 | Milhouse | jesuschrist: arrows toolbar (switch toolbar in the menu) or if you're on the swype keyboard, swipe from the Swype key to the language key - you'll get a new menu layout with arrows. |
| 15:40.26 | jesuschrist | uh thanks Milhouse |
| 15:41.25 | jesuschrist | they made the nano package in my language |
| 15:41.26 | jesuschrist | cool |
| 15:42.36 | jesuschrist | hmm how to restart openssh ? |
| 15:42.50 | jesuschrist | no script for it in init.d |
| 15:47.32 | CepiPerez | last time I tried to edit ssh configs |
| 15:47.37 | CepiPerez | I bricked my phone |
| 15:48.40 | jesuschrist | lolz |
| 15:48.44 | jesuschrist | well i already did it |
| 15:48.51 | jesuschrist | now ill disable and renable dev mode |
| 15:48.58 | jesuschrist | checking if this reload the config |
| 15:50.17 | jesuschrist | yeah works |
| 15:50.23 | jesuschrist | and no brick :p |
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| 15:51.48 | nibbler | jesuschrist: the only thing i need ovi suite for is contacts. |
| 15:51.55 | nibbler | can't sync them with anything proper. |
| 15:52.20 | nibbler | for calendar there's caldav. works like a charm with davical. |
| 15:52.32 | jesuschrist | any idea on how to transfer sms nibbler? |
| 15:52.42 | nibbler | sms is a one-way-street apparently :( |
| 15:52.47 | nibbler | just device -> ovi suite. |
| 15:53.12 | jesuschrist | sigh |
| 15:53.21 | jesuschrist | i have 2 years sms on my old phone :8 |
| 15:53.25 | nibbler | ovi suite allows export as csv but i had problems importing the csv anywhere because the delimiter is "," which occasionally happens to be content of messages. |
| 15:53.34 | jesuschrist | yep i exported the csv |
| 15:53.44 | jesuschrist | you could also export sms in .nbu format |
| 15:53.46 | nibbler | ovi suite uses sqlite internally, so i just grabbed that one and put it on the shelf... |
| 15:53.50 | jesuschrist | but i have no idea how to use .nbu |
| 15:53.52 | nibbler | what's nbu? |
| 15:53.54 | nibbler | ok :) |
| 15:54.11 | jesuschrist | its the format ovi suite and pc suite uses for backups |
| 15:54.53 | jesuschrist | thers a nbu converter online wich converts nbu to outlook and such |
| 15:54.57 | jesuschrist | but then ? lol |
| 15:55.16 | nibbler | yeah... no :-) |
| 15:55.36 | jesuschrist | well just have to wait till new firmware upgrades come i guess |
| 15:55.41 | nibbler | i wish there was contacts syncing to anything other than google or ovi |
| 15:55.42 | jesuschrist | hope it wont be too much |
| 15:55.57 | jesuschrist | time |
| 15:56.18 | jesuschrist | anyway upgrading repositories on n9 |
| 15:56.22 | jesuschrist | not working |
| 15:56.27 | jesuschrist | with all the repo links |
| 15:56.40 | nibbler | i don't want to give all 1260 contacts (minus ~15% duplicates created when syncing my E7/E72/E52) to any of them. |
| 15:57.08 | jesuschrist | oh i dont pretty much care |
| 15:57.14 | jesuschrist | 1260 its a big number anyway |
| 15:57.15 | jesuschrist | :p |
| 15:57.32 | nibbler | the oldest ones were created on my Siemens S25 :) |
| 15:57.45 | jesuschrist | i have 60 contacts lol :D |
| 15:58.12 | jesuschrist | feels like stallman |
| 15:59.31 | nibbler | i ocasionally check at least the mobile numbers in there for validity by doing certain SS7/MAP requests. but that just removes a few, every time i do that. (bi-yearly) |
| 16:00.46 | jesuschrist | i wish there was a sip dialer |
| 16:00.48 | jesuschrist | app |
| 16:01.54 | jesuschrist | can you run java |
| 16:01.56 | jesuschrist | apps ? |
| 16:06.10 | Corsac | nibbler: on n950 there was a syncml bluetooth chan |
| 16:06.23 | Corsac | nibbler: so it might be possible to sync with syncevolution for example |
| 16:06.32 | jesuschrist | RM696-34-1_PR_009:/# apt-cache search jvm |
| 16:06.32 | Corsac | nibbler: I intend to try that when I get a N9 |
| 16:06.32 | jesuschrist | RM696-34-1_PR_009:/# |
| 16:06.34 | jesuschrist | :( |
| 16:06.39 | jesuschrist | no java ? :( |
| 16:06.51 | Corsac | (as I don't really want to give my contacts/calendar to anyone else either) |
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| 16:11.40 | jesuschrist | http://www.ideasproject.com/ideas/12941 |
| 16:13.12 | jesuschrist | anyone working on a jvm for n9 here ?!?!? |
| 16:15.03 | leinir | steals some of jesuschrist's copious punctuation and runs away with it "Bwuahahaha!" ;) |
| 16:17.39 | jesuschrist | give my punctuation back |
| 16:19.33 | nibbler | Corsac: hmm! that could be a way. |
| 16:19.59 | nibbler | jesuschrist: you can switch to sip in the regular call screen. just numbers for input though. |
| 16:21.09 | nibbler | Corsac: i went through all the pain to get funambol up and running just to sync all my stuff privately. now with N950 i have linux on my phone but farther away from that than ever before :) |
| 16:21.28 | nibbler | one could however try to use the exchange sync stuff.... hmmm. |
| 16:21.38 | nibbler | happy happy joy. a new todo-item :) |
| 16:21.54 | Corsac | well, with active sync you still need a third party server |
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| 16:22.16 | jesuschrist | nibbler : by sip dialer i mean a ptsn number wich let you make sip calls without having internet connection |
| 16:24.08 | jesuschrist | nibbler : http://www.lowcaller.com/en/ |
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| 16:46.21 | DocScrutinizer | ( just numbers for input though) poor design. Seems in contacts you can add arbitrary SIP contact URLs though |
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| 16:50.36 | jesuschrist | the real depressing thing is no jvm :( |
| 16:52.10 | gri | yeah, it's really hard filling all that ram without java |
| 16:53.13 | jesuschrist | got many java apps |
| 16:53.18 | jesuschrist | :( |
| 16:53.27 | jesuschrist | ill try installing the java me for embedded devices |
| 16:59.12 | jesuschrist | anyway meego uses 850 mb of ram without having any application open |
| 17:01.13 | Stskeeps | free -m is more accurate |
| 17:01.15 | Stskeeps | a lot of it is cached |
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| 17:04.19 | color`coded | coooooooool |
| 17:07.44 | jesuschrist | yo |
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| 17:19.36 | SpeedEvil | Also - RSS is a lie. |
| 17:23.54 | nibbler | jesuschrist: hmmm. for that i use freeswitch. |
| 17:24.15 | nibbler | jesuschrist: but i got a freeswitch install anyway so it was just adding another number for that and three lines into the dialplan |
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| 18:01.17 | jesuschrist | tried to install |
| 18:01.20 | jesuschrist | the java se |
| 18:01.23 | jesuschrist | in th en9 |
| 18:01.29 | jesuschrist | says "operation not permitted" |
| 18:01.33 | jesuschrist | while i try to run the binary |
| 18:01.40 | jesuschrist | any idea? |
| 18:03.19 | jesuschrist | ok now works |
| 18:11.24 | jesuschrist | RM696-34-1_PR_009:~# java -jar BetamaxSMS.jar |
| 18:11.24 | jesuschrist | Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from |
| 18:11.28 | jesuschrist | uh ? |
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| 18:25.05 | gri | jesuschrist: Don't try a betamax client |
| 18:31.59 | jesuschrist | gri :? |
| 18:32.16 | jesuschrist | i need a way to send sms from my phone |
| 18:32.20 | jesuschrist | through sip |
| 18:32.28 | jesuschrist | if you have better ideas |
| 18:32.29 | jesuschrist | im here |
| 18:32.42 | jesuschrist | those jars work on e70 :\ |
| 18:35.51 | ZogG | thru sip? |
| 18:36.23 | jesuschrist | yes |
| 18:36.26 | gri | jesuschrist: In a week you will be able to test the web2sms harmattan port which has betamax as provider plugin |
| 18:36.51 | jesuschrist | cool |
| 18:36.57 | jesuschrist | who is the dev ? |
| 18:37.21 | jesuschrist | still would be nice be able to run java on our phones |
| 18:38.04 | iekku | java? |
| 18:38.09 | iekku | *hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* |
| 18:38.38 | gri | jesuschrist: me |
| 18:38.41 | Stskeeps | iekku: bad flashbacks? |
| 18:39.02 | jesuschrist | gri |
| 18:39.22 | jesuschrist | i luv u |
| 18:40.27 | jesuschrist | could you also make a dialer or something similar gri ? you know lowcaller ? |
| 18:43.27 | ZogG | MohammadAG, ping |
| 18:45.55 | iekku | Stskeeps, yes :D |
| 18:49.22 | gri | jesuschrist: No, that's something different |
| 18:53.17 | jesuschrist | i know |
| 18:53.23 | jesuschrist | but could you make something like that ? |
| 18:58.57 | gri | No idea |
| 18:59.14 | rafael2k | people, do you think it's possible to port the hildon userland to run in harmattan w/ aegis disabled? |
| 18:59.18 | gri | Don't they just use a sip server which you can configure on your n9 anyway? |
| 18:59.41 | Stskeeps | rafael2k: why would you want to.. |
| 18:59.42 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:59.54 | rafael2k | aegis disabled? |
| 18:59.55 | rafael2k | ; ) |
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| 19:10.56 | jesuschrist | yep gri |
| 19:10.57 | jesuschrist | but |
| 19:11.01 | jesuschrist | the dialer is useful |
| 19:11.09 | jesuschrist | when you dont have internet connection |
| 19:11.25 | jesuschrist | or lets say you dont have data on your connection plan |
| 19:11.38 | jesuschrist | betamax has an app for it |
| 19:22.04 | jesuschrist | guys just letting you know |
| 19:22.08 | jesuschrist | same ways to use java |
| 19:22.10 | jesuschrist | on n900 |
| 19:22.15 | jesuschrist | work on n9 |
| 19:41.15 | ieatlint | fuck yeah, java |
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| 19:51.09 | jesuschrist | well |
| 19:51.11 | jesuschrist | microemu works |
| 19:51.13 | jesuschrist | java me |
| 19:51.26 | jesuschrist | i think it works, but i dont know how to make it work :P |
| 19:51.49 | jesuschrist | would be helpful because microemu isnt designed for a virtual keyboard |
| 19:51.56 | jesuschrist | n950 users should have no problems |
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| 20:27.45 | ZogG | how can i use usb connection to share network with n9? |
| 20:28.45 | ZogG | nevermind, my friend figured it out =) |
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| 20:58.39 | npm | ZogG: 'sudo modprobe fuse ; sshfs user@n950:/ /mnt/n950-user' |
| 21:02.32 | npm | user@usb0:/ 4128448 1142420 2776316 30% /media/n950-user |
| 21:03.32 | npm | where 192.168.2.15usb0 usb0.usb0 |
| 21:14.34 | ZogG | npm ifusb0 up before right? |
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| 21:18.48 | ZogG | Venemo sup maaan |
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| 21:26.09 | Venemo | hey ZogG, what's up? :) |
| 21:26.43 | ZogG | good |
| 21:26.51 | ZogG | think of the ways of getting n9 |
| 21:27.01 | ZogG | howdy? |
| 21:27.10 | Venemo | :) |
| 21:27.19 | Venemo | I'm hacking multitouch stuff for my app |
| 21:28.22 | ZogG | what app? |
| 21:28.29 | Venemo | Puzzle Master |
| 21:28.31 | Venemo | what else? :) |
| 21:29.01 | ZogG | as my n900 went broken |
| 21:29.15 | ZogG | i stopped following maemo chan tmo and my app developing =) |
| 21:29.36 | Venemo | well, I don't develop it for the N900 anymore either. |
| 21:30.07 | ZogG | my usb got off =\ |
| 21:30.39 | ZogG | you got n950 right? |
| 21:31.10 | Venemo | yes |
| 21:31.43 | ZogG | i even requested, but i don't think i would get it, if they would get to my name, but i was too far in the list =\ |
| 21:31.57 | Venemo | get an N9 :P |
| 21:32.19 | ZogG | too costy, as there no official sales here |
| 21:32.35 | Venemo | oh. |
| 21:32.37 | Venemo | sorry :( |
| 21:32.37 | ZogG | there are* |
| 21:32.56 | ZogG | it's motre than 1000$ for 16gb =) |
| 21:33.10 | ZogG | so i'm with iphone for now |
| 21:34.08 | Venemo | yeah, it's more than 1000$ here too. |
| 21:34.21 | Venemo | and pretty much everywhere. |
| 21:34.34 | ZogG | not for 16gb |
| 21:34.40 | Venemo | yes, for 16GB |
| 21:34.51 | ZogG | all over internet it's 700 for 16gb |
| 21:35.52 | Venemo | well, haven't checked |
| 21:35.59 | Venemo | N950 is superior, so why bother? |
| 21:37.53 | ZogG | don't make me wanna kill you =) |
| 21:38.05 | npm | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Capture_movie_directly_from_N9/N950_screen |
| 21:38.28 | ZogG | Venemo GIVE IT ME |
| 21:38.41 | npm | ZogG: re "usb0 up before" ... yes, handset is in SDK mode so usb networking enabled |
| 21:38.43 | Venemo | ZogG :) |
| 21:38.45 | ZogG | Venemo i would buy n950 with n9 screen =) |
| 21:38.56 | Venemo | ZogG, N950 screen is bigger |
| 21:39.10 | ZogG | but quality and amoled |
| 21:39.32 | Venemo | N950 screen is da best LCD eva. |
| 21:39.33 | npm | n950 might be more fragile judging from people talking about cracked screens |
| 21:39.36 | ZogG | i like the thought of screen showing only watch and using battery only for that =) |
| 21:41.49 | Venemo | N950's weak point is the screen yes. it scratches way too easily |
| 21:42.03 | Venemo | or maybe it was just the fault of my previous one. |
| 21:42.19 | Venemo | the new one doesn't have any scratches yet on its screen, but the painting has began to come off on the side....... |
| 21:43.24 | ZogG | Venemo, it's unfair |
| 21:43.31 | ZogG | you already got second one and i none |
| 21:52.53 | Venemo | ZogG, well, the first one became faulty |
| 21:52.57 | Venemo | ZogG, so I sent it back... |
| 22:04.51 | npm | i carry my n950 around in a giant sunglasses case for protection |
| 22:19.01 | Arkenoi | i just try not to place n950 in the same pocket with other things |
| 22:19.17 | Arkenoi | well, my n900 had no screen scratches |
| 22:19.35 | Arkenoi | nor does have n950 screen , but the case has a few |
| 22:20.02 | Arkenoi | battery cover and corners (i dropped it once by accident to a hard surface) |
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