| 00:00.11 | DocScrutinizer | no plugin for GSM or whatever it might be called |
| 00:00.45 | DocScrutinizer | SECURITY code? |
| 00:01.01 | DocScrutinizer | is it actually exactly that? |
| 00:01.06 | rncbc | yes |
| 00:01.25 | DocScrutinizer | o.O |
| 00:01.34 | rncbc | "Enter security code" is what it says |
| 00:02.00 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, what does it say when you lock your device with a device lock code? |
| 00:03.12 | rncbc | DocScrutinizer: how can i know? i can't get out of this "enter security code" thing anyway :( |
| 00:03.18 | DocScrutinizer | settings -> security -> Device Lock -> <check all that> |
| 00:03.31 | DocScrutinizer | ooh |
| 00:03.31 | ieatlint | i suggest you go to munich on monday and look for the scrawniest guy with an n950 who doesn't have a lot of people around him and get a replacement phone |
| 00:04.26 | DocScrutinizer | so it's not the flight mode, it's simply your device got locked? |
| 00:04.56 | DocScrutinizer | this would actually explain why you can receive calls and make emergency calls |
| 00:05.20 | DocScrutinizer | device locked is supposed to act that way |
| 00:05.23 | rncbc | DocScrutinizer: probably, but during the device update it briefly said that it was turned into "flight mode" somehow |
| 00:05.36 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, it always does that |
| 00:05.39 | ieatlint | it might enter flight mode during update |
| 00:05.43 | DocScrutinizer | unrelated |
| 00:06.13 | DocScrutinizer | it stops modem when updating the cellmo fw |
| 00:06.42 | DocScrutinizer | you're facing a "simple" device lock |
| 00:06.58 | DocScrutinizer | lemme check how this actually looks, never used it |
| 00:07.53 | ieatlint | yeah, i remember there was a way to reset it on the n900 |
| 00:07.55 | ieatlint | might be similar |
| 00:08.10 | DocScrutinizer | for sure not |
| 00:08.15 | DocScrutinizer | see aegis |
| 00:08.24 | ieatlint | perhaps |
| 00:08.37 | ieatlint | but aegis is more about stopping you from fucking with the root system |
| 00:08.53 | ieatlint | you're probably right though |
| 00:09.02 | rncbc | the screen is divided in 3 parts: top is blue asking "Enter security code", mid is black with a little phone+ button on the left (emergency call), bottom showns a keyboard pad |
| 00:14.33 | DocScrutinizer | same here, just without phone as I got no SIM |
| 00:15.38 | DocScrutinizer | that'S pretty standard device lock |
| 00:15.54 | DocScrutinizer | as in settings -> security -> Device Lock -> |
| 00:16.29 | DocScrutinizer | I heard device lock will hit triggered on some conditions during update |
| 00:16.44 | DocScrutinizer | forgot what it was though |
| 00:17.23 | DocScrutinizer | and for sure it's pretty bad if you never have set a security code |
| 00:17.55 | DocScrutinizer | a silly question, you ever tried to hit OK without entering *any* code? |
| 00:21.44 | DocScrutinizer | wasn't MALF enabling device lock? |
| 00:22.28 | DocScrutinizer | aah, and swapping SIM allegedly triggers device lock |
| 00:27.52 | rncbc | DocScrutinizer: ok is disabled when no code is entered |
| 00:28.13 | DocScrutinizer | aaah |
| 00:28.23 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, thought as much |
| 00:29.14 | DocScrutinizer | you're sure you never have set a device lock code? |
| 00:29.21 | rncbc | i'll have to leave now. i guess tomorrrow i'll try to reflash the n950 ... |
| 00:29.35 | DocScrutinizer | your only option I guess |
| 00:29.42 | rncbc | nite |
| 00:29.46 | DocScrutinizer | o/ |
| 00:30.03 | Milhouse | rncbc - did you enable track & protect? |
| 00:30.13 | DocScrutinizer | please come back and tell what was the end of the story |
| 00:32.50 | DocScrutinizer | ieatlint: grep lock_code /dev/mtd1 -> nuttin |
| 00:34.39 | DocScrutinizer | wonders if you could swipe away the dialer on inbound calls, to get to the settings app |
| 00:35.14 | DocScrutinizer | I guess that's a bug they fixed some time ago |
| 00:35.29 | ieatlint | :( |
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| 04:49.24 | iekku | morning |
| 04:50.50 | dm8tbr | mrng |
| 04:50.56 | npm | wonders if that was *the* rncbc ( http://www.rncbc.org ) |
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| 04:53.45 | hiemanshu | anyone tried the OTA as of yet? what seems to be added? |
| 04:55.00 | nibbler | many small things and what's in http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950-39-5/Nokia_N950_PR11_Release_Notes_v39_5_en.txt |
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| 05:28.28 | djszapi | ~seen wazd |
| 05:28.29 | infobot | wazd <~wazd@broadband-95-84-185-178.nationalcablenetworks.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 7h 46m 56s ago, saying: 'Milhouse: easter egg for geeks? :)'. |
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| 05:38.25 | hiemanshu | normal for 'Low Memory, Please close some apps' when updating via OTA? |
| 05:38.32 | dm8tbr | yes, see notes |
| 05:38.40 | dm8tbr | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950-39-5/Nokia_N950_PR11_Release_Notes_v39_5_en.txt |
| 05:39.00 | dm8tbr | * Users may get low memory and connectivity messages during the installation process. These messages can be ignored. |
| 05:39.07 | hiemanshu | I see |
| 05:39.45 | Scifig | hiemanshu, FYI - ssh root access is removed. |
| 05:40.04 | hiemanshu | Scifig: dont need that :P |
| 05:53.10 | dm8tbr | it's a sane thing not to log on as root |
| 05:53.17 | dm8tbr | I bet devel-su still works |
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| 06:05.40 | Kypeli | It's just a shame how badly this removal of root login was communicated by Nokia |
| 06:05.49 | Kypeli | It's like they never learn anything. |
| 06:06.46 | frals | uh |
| 06:06.50 | frals | someone fucked up in that build then |
| 06:07.14 | frals | because i still have it on mine running a very slightly different build |
| 06:07.22 | hiemanshu | I get a 'maximum rescue count exceeded' in red font :( |
| 06:07.59 | hiemanshu | yay, 'Device not working properly' :D |
| 06:08.01 | hiemanshu | FML |
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| 06:10.44 | hiemanshu | Battery Level is 40%, wonder what went wrong, flashing to 34-2 now |
| 06:16.46 | Scifig | I can't set a password for "user". I can't run "su - user" from devel-sh. So how can I run a command as user via ssh? |
| 06:18.46 | hiemanshu | you cannot IIRC, you can only do it as developer now, and pass from that comes from SDK tool |
| 06:21.50 | Scifig | There are some dbus commands I would like to run as user. Don't know if developer account is "very" similar to user. |
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| 07:31.43 | Hq` | ah great, a spotify client is available |
| 07:31.56 | Hq` | meespot seems to support also offline playlists, nice |
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| 07:33.40 | Anssi138 | last! |
| 07:34.27 | Hq` | the ui is a bit sluggish sometimes, but otherwise seems to work great |
| 07:34.46 | djszapi | did not expect to hear good words for harmattan here ;) |
| 07:34.57 | Anssi138 | considering spotify, i have found 'new' coding music genre lately |
| 07:34.57 | petteri | link? |
| 07:35.08 | Hq` | it's in ovi store |
| 07:35.15 | petteri | ok, thanks |
| 07:35.45 | xarcass | coding music genre? what it might be? |
| 07:35.49 | Anssi138 | it's blues. |
| 07:36.11 | Anssi138 | maybe i am just getting old |
| 07:36.47 | Anssi138 | music to listen while coding |
| 07:37.03 | xarcass | is desperately trying to swallow his puke :) |
| 07:37.06 | djszapi | getting yound!! |
| 07:37.08 | djszapi | young* |
| 07:37.14 | iekku | if it's blues, can't start coding ever |
| 07:37.36 | Stskeeps | best coding music is crap 90's dance |
| 07:37.45 | Hq` | ugh |
| 07:37.48 | Stskeeps | there's absolutely nothing there for your brain to process |
| 07:37.51 | iekku | umh |
| 07:37.54 | Stskeeps | => more processing power for your mind |
| 07:37.55 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 07:37.55 | iekku | Stskeeps, :DDDDD |
| 07:38.07 | xarcass | last coding music genre i've found was TXDM, and I'm 42 btw |
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| 07:38.31 | djszapi | or one can just sing while coding =) |
| 07:38.39 | Hq` | :D |
| 07:38.53 | Hq` | that would be... interesting (at work) |
| 07:39.04 | frals | heh |
| 07:39.38 | frals | what is more annoying then singing is the guy next to you bouncing like he's on acid |
| 07:39.47 | xarcass | tries to reproduce guttural growling and pig squealing while coding |
| 07:40.02 | frals | my bh-905i solves noise but cant do anythign about what i see in the corner of my eyes :< |
| 07:40.20 | djszapi | Hq`: not coding in the dark corner alone ? Shame on you ;) |
| 07:40.45 | Hq` | I will be if I start singing |
| 07:40.49 | frals | :D |
| 07:41.16 | xarcass | alas, all dark corners are already occupied by superiors |
| 07:42.18 | djszapi | at any rate ... anybody experience with osc build locally for Harmattan target ? |
| 07:42.44 | dm8tbr | Hq`: people will lock you in the phone closet. It's sound proof and has ethernet. ;) |
| 07:43.38 | Hq` | :) |
| 07:44.11 | matrixx | lolling here |
| 07:44.23 | Anssi138 | Hq`, and i would throw vi manuals at you ;) |
| 07:44.24 | matrixx | tries to read this conversation with a poker face |
| 07:44.55 | matrixx | dm8tbr: :D |
| 07:44.57 | dm8tbr | matrixx: we all know you fail to do so, don't pretend ;) |
| 07:45.11 | matrixx | dm8tbr: yeah, gone already :( |
| 07:45.31 | matrixx | I listen reggae or ska when coding |
| 07:45.49 | matrixx | and try hard not to sing with it |
| 07:46.25 | djszapi | "singing" black and death metal would be fun :D |
| 07:47.12 | djszapi | if anybody has an idea how to make the "osc build" properly locally, I will thank: http://paste.kde.org/135871/ |
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| 07:49.57 | spenap | hi, I've upgraded to 1.1 using the SSU, and now I cannot login as root via ssh. I read the tweets about login as user / developer, but... What if I just want to keep login as root? Can it be restored? |
| 07:50.30 | dm8tbr | spenap: login as user and devel-su? |
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| 07:51.27 | dm8tbr | logging in as root leaves you in an bad position anyway as root can't e.g. read user files and does not have the same credentials as when running from devel-su. AFAIU YMMV |
| 07:51.39 | spenap | dm8tbr, yes, that's a valid workaround. But I checked the sshd_config, and it still says PermitRootLogin yes |
| 07:51.58 | hiemanshu | wait what, still no Jabber? :( |
| 07:52.00 | spenap | basically, I just login as root to install .deb files, and then su - user |
| 07:52.21 | dm8tbr | hiemanshu: I don't think there will be unless someone finally goes and writes an account plugin... |
| 07:52.31 | spenap | so previously, scp stuff root@device:; ssh root@device was really handy |
| 07:52.47 | hiemanshu | dm8tbr: ah, damn, gotta pester someone now |
| 07:53.04 | dm8tbr | hiemanshu: most of the SSO code is open sores anyway |
| 07:54.17 | hiemanshu | yeah, have seen it, will meddle with it when I can |
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| 08:02.53 | hiemanshu | also anyone that updated to 39-5, dont forget to apt-get install gof2 nfsshift |
| 08:04.07 | jabis | someone mentioned a spotify client - which repo is it in? |
| 08:04.18 | hiemanshu | ovi store |
| 08:05.11 | jabis | didn't see it there yesterday o.O well have to dig deeper I suppose ^^ |
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| 08:05.23 | hiemanshu | jabis: its called meespot or something |
| 08:06.51 | jabis | thanks :) anyone here managed a pptp vpn setup? I saw some discussion about hacking a bluetooth-dun or something but haven't figured out how to apply this |
| 08:10.41 | RST38h | So, any solution to firmware update hanging and then stopping at 0%? |
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| 08:12.44 | meegomy | hi guys |
| 08:12.54 | SpeedEvil | hi |
| 08:13.31 | rantom | hiemanshu: I think you mean Qspot? |
| 08:13.47 | hiemanshu | rantom: someone said meespot above |
| 08:13.56 | rantom | Hmm |
| 08:14.00 | jabis | meespot it was - only works with premium, and I've forgot our firm's password X) |
| 08:14.19 | rantom | Spotify always works only with Premium outside of desktop |
| 08:14.37 | rantom | s/desktop/desktop-client/ |
| 08:15.22 | jabis | oh - didn't know that :) |
| 08:15.35 | meegomy | what is the ssh root@localhost password for n950? |
| 08:15.45 | hiemanshu | rootme |
| 08:15.46 | sandst1_ | meegomy: rootme |
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| 08:17.13 | meegomy | thats weired |
| 08:17.32 | rantom | jabis: http://www.spotify.com/fi/get-spotify/premium/ (ignore the "fi", they've yet to translate the site from English to Finnish) |
| 08:17.38 | meegomy | "Permission denied, please try again." |
| 08:17.57 | rantom | Wasn't the ssh to root removed in newest OTA? |
| 08:18.10 | hiemanshu | yes |
| 08:18.14 | rantom | meegomy: You could also try as a command: devel-su |
| 08:18.22 | rantom | Same password |
| 08:18.30 | meegomy | ok.. |
| 08:18.40 | meegomy | i got the ota update this morning |
| 08:19.31 | hiemanshu | meegomy: then you have to ssh as developer and run devel-su to get root |
| 08:20.38 | meegomy | is that anyway to make the menu as landscape mode? |
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| 08:20.41 | hiemanshu | so best thing to do would be copy over the ssh keys and use those to do anything you need to do as user and devel-su for root |
| 08:20.48 | xsacha_ | ok, so n950 has pr 1.1... when does n9 get it? |
| 08:20.50 | meegomy | coz i was refering to this: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3756&page=2 |
| 08:21.18 | xsacha_ | only update for n9 i can see is something for developer |
| 08:21.30 | xsacha_ | if i update that do restrictions get better or worse? |
| 08:22.08 | lkslawek | meegomy: the menu? applications list in home screen? |
| 08:22.14 | hiemanshu | there is no difference except that you get a terminal and a sdk connectivity app |
| 08:22.34 | meegomy | lkslawek: yes |
| 08:22.38 | lkslawek | meegomy: it is |
| 08:22.55 | lkslawek | meegomy: the orientation is locked in .css file for meego touch home |
| 08:23.18 | meegomy | how i can edit the file? |
| 08:23.34 | lkslawek | with you favourite editor on your phone |
| 08:23.39 | lkslawek | e.g. vi |
| 08:24.58 | rantom | meegomy: http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#Harmattan_home_screens_in_landscape_mode |
| 08:25.36 | meegomy | yea.. i was trying this approach |
| 08:25.45 | rantom | If I recall correctly though it was not recommended since it had stability(?) issues? |
| 08:26.08 | lkslawek | did not crash for me, only some drawing problems |
| 08:26.44 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 08:26.52 | rantom | Jaffa: morning |
| 08:27.34 | rantom | Btw |
| 08:27.45 | rantom | Would someone know where the .ts files for Harmattan are? |
| 08:27.57 | rantom | (localization) |
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| 08:31.55 | sandst1_ | hmm..interesting. 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on n9 shows 603 packages to update :) |
| 08:32.30 | rantom | sandst1: indeed... |
| 08:32.36 | rantom | swype? :) |
| 08:32.45 | xsacha_ | sandst1: dist upgrade? thx |
| 08:32.56 | xsacha_ | last time i tried that it had 1 update |
| 08:33.02 | sandst1 | rantom: no swype on the list |
| 08:33.06 | rantom | Darn |
| 08:33.28 | xsacha_ | doesnt mean it's not in repo |
| 08:33.56 | xsacha_ | by the way, what is the repo it dist-ugrade's to? |
| 08:34.10 | xsacha_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/ beta 2 still newest here |
| 08:34.38 | sandst1 | xsacha_: it's getting stuff from downloads.maemo.nokia.com |
| 08:34.55 | xsacha_ | k |
| 08:35.15 | xsacha_ | gosh feels like such a chore to type on my n9.. even though it's fast |
| 08:35.22 | meegomy | i think i saw swipe in the setting |
| 08:35.23 | xsacha_ | i usually just ssh in |
| 08:35.56 | xsacha_ | ok, you must have some special n9 |
| 08:36.00 | rantom | meegomy: Swipe is for the UI, Swype is the input-method |
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| 08:36.03 | xsacha_ | i get 10 upgraded, 1 to remove |
| 08:36.05 | rantom | Just a clarification |
| 08:36.23 | xsacha_ | 7 of them are just the standard ones |
| 08:36.25 | meegomy | rantom: opes my bad |
| 08:36.26 | hiemanshu | hmm, installed gof2 and nfs shift |
| 08:36.30 | meegomy | ops* |
| 08:36.33 | rantom | meegomy: It's ok :) |
| 08:36.34 | Kaadlajk | dist-upgrade might mess up your SSU if it removes mp-harmattan-... package |
| 08:36.58 | xsacha_ | yeah it offers to remove the mp-harmattan-299-pr |
| 08:37.06 | meegomy | hiemanshu: where u get these games? |
| 08:37.13 | Hq` | I hate every input method which tries to guess what I meant :P |
| 08:37.17 | hiemanshu | meegomy: apt-get install gof2 nfsshift |
| 08:37.21 | hiemanshu | meegomy: they are free with 39-5 |
| 08:37.27 | Hq` | unless it can read thoughts its not good enough :P |
| 08:37.49 | xsacha_ | sandst1: am i doing something wrong? i dont have the dist-upgrade |
| 08:38.00 | sandst1 | Kaarlajk: well. there's always the option to flash againn :) |
| 08:38.14 | xsacha_ | just 3 new packages and it wants to remove mp-harmattan, like it wanted when i first got phone |
| 08:38.32 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: first update, and then try dist-upgrade |
| 08:38.48 | sandst1 | xsacha_: ran apt-get update first? (and as Kaadlajk said, it might mess your SSU :) |
| 08:38.51 | hiemanshu | it probably doesn't have newer data |
| 08:39.04 | xsacha_ | sandst1: yeah i did |
| 08:39.20 | sandst1 | xsacha_: strange... |
| 08:39.40 | meegomy | i jz got this device 2 days ago |
| 08:39.42 | xsacha_ | is there a non-standard repo you had to add? |
| 08:39.45 | meegomy | not very familiar |
| 08:39.52 | hiemanshu | meegomy: the N950? |
| 08:39.55 | meegomy | yeah |
| 08:40.01 | xsacha_ | meegomy: have you used any debian-based linux before? |
| 08:40.01 | sandst1 | xsacha_: nope. |
| 08:40.04 | hiemanshu | how did you get it 2 days ago? |
| 08:40.08 | meegomy | late for the class tho |
| 08:40.28 | meegomy | xsacha_: not really |
| 08:40.31 | hiemanshu | meegomy: open terminal, devel-su, enter password, and then apt-get install gof2 nfsshift |
| 08:40.50 | meegomy | have to start from scratch |
| 08:42.10 | meegomy | hiemanshu: thx its running now |
| 08:42.55 | hiemanshu | it should download around 220M |
| 08:43.31 | meegomy | 15min to go |
| 08:43.53 | xsacha_ | sandst1: well my update says https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/harmattan/299/ ./Packages.gz The requested URL returned error: 404 |
| 08:44.24 | sandst1 | xsacha_: that's strange.. |
| 08:44.45 | meegomy | so the aegis can be disable now? |
| 08:45.25 | xsacha_ | sandst1: the harmattan/sdk/free harmattan/sdk/non-free all download correctly |
| 08:45.31 | sandst1 | Kaadlajk: not so sure how Seamless the current upgrade thing is though. Got some update notifications about Facebook/Twitter/Drive etc, but they all failed to download due to some conflict w.r.t some installed packages x) which is a bit strange since all i've got installed is a couple apps from ovi store |
| 08:47.40 | hiemanshu | sandst1: those update with the new image, so they will fail, and will auto install when the new one updates |
| 08:47.57 | hiemanshu | s/new one/image/ |
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| 08:49.12 | sandst1 | hiemanshu: ok. just a bit confusing to get an app update notification that doesn't work :) |
| 08:49.40 | hiemanshu | sandst1: yeah, I tried that, and it failed telling me it needs the image update to install, and when I did the install, it all auto updated |
| 08:49.49 | hiemanshu | am on N950 though |
| 08:50.00 | sandst1 | hiemanshu: ok, good to know |
| 08:50.22 | xsacha_ | so just no updates for my n9? :( |
| 08:50.36 | xsacha_ | didnt know repos can discriminate based on product code or whatever |
| 08:51.10 | artemma | Is there a way to restrict swype languages to just a few? |
| 08:51.11 | artemma | is tired to push language switch button ten times, when really using only 2-3 languages |
| 08:51.12 | meegomy | n950 not support skype yet? |
| 08:52.12 | xsacha_ | Nokia FiRE still only has firmware 10.2011.34.1 for N9 |
| 08:52.20 | artemma | meegomy, I installed skype this way: http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#GTalk_and_Skype_account_setup |
| 08:52.27 | artemma | oh well, enabled actually |
| 08:52.57 | macmaN | artemma: you can select languages in settings |
| 08:53.00 | artemma | you can't make calls or send messages right from contacts, but you can call or send messages from Call/Messgaes |
| 08:53.09 | artemma | macmaN: I can't see how |
| 08:53.19 | artemma | I know how to choose lang for built-in keyboard |
| 08:53.24 | artemma | but not for swype |
| 08:53.35 | xsacha_ | why n950 have less features than n9? |
| 08:53.51 | meegomy | thx artemma |
| 08:55.02 | artemma | finds PR 1.1 to be a little (but noticeably) slower than Beta 2 nearly everywhere. Anybody got similar feelings? |
| 08:55.30 | rantom | artemma: Similar feeling. Seems to lag a bit |
| 08:56.37 | xsacha_ | by the way, on n9 (still original firmware), i have 30MB ram free on boot |
| 08:56.46 | xsacha_ | is that normal? 970MB used |
| 08:57.40 | artemma | I have very similar situation with N950 and PR 1.1 (not sure if it has 30 or 130MB free rigth after boot, but it's anyway not 200 |
| 08:58.05 | xsacha_ | yeah 100MB buffer, 30MB free |
| 08:58.09 | kimju | artemma, IIRC you might need to select the supported languages separately for swype and non-swype. then swiping left/right in vkb changes between all selected modes/languages |
| 08:58.41 | artemma | kimju: I tried, but failed to find how to do it |
| 08:58.52 | xsacha_ | the weird thing is.. i ran 12 apps (including 3 games) and RAM usage dropped so that I had 200MB free + 100MB buffer |
| 08:59.07 | artemma | kimju: swype settings seem to allow to choose the *current* language only |
| 09:01.22 | Hq` | well my desktop is "using" almost 4GB of memory with just a few apps open... one should not obsess too much over the reported figures |
| 09:03.50 | meegomy | how you check the free rams & processor speed? its that any apps for that? |
| 09:05.18 | xsacha_ | cat /proc/cpuinfo for processor |
| 09:05.22 | xsacha_ | free for ram |
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| 09:07.36 | Hq` | or cat /proc/meminfo |
| 09:07.43 | meegomy | currently we dun have monitor apps for ram & processor? |
| 09:07.45 | Hq` | you'll also see that a lot of it is probably "cached" |
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| 09:08.26 | meegomy | Hq`: i see |
| 09:10.04 | xarcass | meegomy: you can try mem-cpu-monitor |
| 09:10.28 | meegomy | xarcass: its that available in store? |
| 09:10.29 | xsacha_ | meegomy: 'top' is a console monitor |
| 09:11.21 | xsacha_ | meegomy: you want a GUI app? |
| 09:11.22 | xarcass | meegomy: it's in 'developer mode' pack, don't know where exactly. it was on the N950, i'm sure. |
| 09:11.56 | xarcass | meegomy: and it's command-line utility, btw |
| 09:12.13 | meegomy | i installed everything in the developer mode |
| 09:12.35 | xarcass | then try to type it in the terminal |
| 09:12.43 | meegomy | the only gui apps similar i see is energy profile |
| 09:13.32 | xsacha_ | just type 'top' in to terminal |
| 09:13.36 | xsacha_ | that's good enough for me :) |
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| 09:14.31 | meegomy | xsacha_: cool |
| 09:14.57 | meegomy | but i hoping a monitor similar like conky in n900 |
| 09:22.08 | meegomy | btw, how to install input languages? |
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| 09:31.15 | flux | meegomy, checked out settings/language? |
| 09:32.00 | flux | how do I setup ssh login for user? it appears I cannot set its password and while I have copied ~root/authorized_keys to ~user/authorized_keys (and the new file is user.uers 600), I still cannot log in |
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| 09:34.43 | hiemanshu | the new update is sloooooow |
| 09:35.00 | hiemanshu | flux: login as developer, devel-su and su - user |
| 09:36.52 | jreznik | hiemanshu: how do you mean "slow" - update process or system after update? I feel the whole phone is much more slower with PR1.1 |
| 09:37.22 | hiemanshu | jreznik: the phone being slower |
| 09:37.47 | jreznik | hiemanshu: yep, I agree completely |
| 09:37.59 | flux | hiemanshu, final step: su: can't set groups: Operation not permitted |
| 09:38.16 | flux | accli -I doesn't say CAP::set_uid |
| 09:38.34 | hiemanshu | flux: develsh after devel-su? |
| 09:38.45 | flux | same thing |
| 09:38.55 | flux | but I do have a lot more capabilities, though |
| 09:39.06 | flux | but no set_uid |
| 09:39.15 | hiemanshu | thats odd |
| 09:39.26 | flux | but hey, iptables works now, that was going to be my other question :) |
| 09:39.29 | meegomy | fluxï¼finally found the language i want |
| 09:39.33 | hiemanshu | jreznik: I think the animations are slow which the phone seem slow as well |
| 09:39.39 | meegomy | after the ota update |
| 09:39.44 | sandst1 | people. do NOT apt-get dist-upgrade your n9 :D |
| 09:39.56 | flux | sounds like sandst1 learned something the hard way :) |
| 09:40.04 | sandst1 | ohyeah xD |
| 09:40.31 | jreznik | hiemanshu: not only animations, for example it takes ages before keyboard appears in unlocking dialog etc. |
| 09:40.58 | hiemanshu | yeah that too |
| 09:41.08 | hiemanshu | sandst1: you were warned :P |
| 09:41.35 | Stskeeps | jreznik: remember that media is getting reindexed after update |
| 09:41.40 | Stskeeps | jreznik: it can be a bit brutal at times |
| 09:42.05 | jreznik | Stskeeps: yep, it was brutal, now it's getting better but still not as fast as beta 2 |
| 09:42.43 | xsacha_ | sandst1: but how come yours can dist-upgrade and mine can't? :( |
| 09:42.45 | Stskeeps | less media ;) |
| 09:43.12 | jreznik | and I don't like the new toolbar shadow - breaks look of my apps - would make sense to have also the page header to have shadow |
| 09:43.23 | hiemanshu | the screen isnt reacting at all |
| 09:43.27 | xsacha_ | sandst1: anyway you can just reflash your n9 |
| 09:43.27 | sandst1 | xsacha: lucky you :P |
| 09:43.37 | hiemanshu | no matter what, its still stuck :/ |
| 09:43.40 | sandst1 | xsacha_: yep |
| 09:44.39 | xsacha_ | sandst1: when you dist-upgrade, isn't there a way to keep the pm-harmattan-299-pr aoo? |
| 09:45.26 | hiemanshu | I dont think so |
| 09:45.44 | hiemanshu | its like a meta package telling you at what version you are |
| 09:45.46 | sandst1 | xsacha_: nope |
| 09:46.12 | sandst1 | xsacha_: and the fact that there are 603 packages in the repo waiting to be updated tells that it'll come through OTA sometime soon anyway |
| 09:46.35 | hiemanshu | Stskeeps: aegisfs using 60% CPU |
| 09:46.36 | hiemanshu | :/ |
| 09:46.37 | xsacha_ | other phones only update on a carrier-by-carrier process.. will n9 be like this? |
| 09:46.43 | Stskeeps | hiemanshu: heh |
| 09:46.50 | sandst1 | oh btw. Is there a flasher for n9 yet? xD |
| 09:46.57 | xsacha_ | sandst1: Phoenix works |
| 09:46.59 | hiemanshu | Stskeeps: tracker doing that? |
| 09:47.01 | sandst1 | a public image i mean |
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| 09:47.05 | Stskeeps | hiemanshu: indexing media |
| 09:47.08 | xsacha_ | sandst1: Nokia FiRE has PR 1.0 |
| 09:47.13 | RST38h | hiemanshu: It is protecting you against evil programs using your CPU |
| 09:47.16 | xsacha_ | sandst1: you can use NaviFIRM to download it |
| 09:47.30 | meegomy | hi stskeeps |
| 09:47.33 | hiemanshu | Stskeeps: oic, I have like 600 songs on there |
| 09:47.45 | hiemanshu | and SIM hot swapping not working? |
| 09:48.10 | sandst1 | xsacha_: ok thx |
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| 09:53.21 | djszapi | Hi! It is not possible then to get the root ssh work after the ssu update from 34-2 ? |
| 09:53.45 | hiemanshu | djszapi: nope, no root ssh works after ssu |
| 09:54.53 | djszapi | not even if you change the password behind devel-su ? |
| 09:55.23 | hiemanshu | nope |
| 09:57.22 | xsacha_ | develsh and developer-mode update.. what do they do? |
| 09:57.34 | faenil | djszapi: hey :) |
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| 09:57.38 | djszapi | faenil: hey there ;) |
| 10:00.02 | sandst1 | soo what's the password for 'user' in n9...? |
| 10:00.50 | djszapi | nothing iirc |
| 10:00.54 | xsacha_ | user/ |
| 10:00.55 | djszapi | but you can change it later |
| 10:01.11 | xsacha_ | hey i tried updating develsh and it says "Update failed and application is now unusable" |
| 10:01.13 | xsacha_ | ah, wha/>! |
| 10:01.50 | sandst1 | yup, changed |
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| 10:04.53 | xsacha_ | anyone have this update? 0.2011.21-5 |
| 10:07.40 | hiemanshu | 21-5 isnt an update |
| 10:07.43 | meegomy | anyone try this? http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/led-event-notifier-nokia-n950-meego-harmattan/ |
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| 10:08.11 | xsacha_ | hmm what's with all these devtools |
| 10:08.20 | djszapi | hiemanshu: ok, so it is false :p http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Platform_Guide/Getting_started_with_Harmattan_Platform_SDK/Setting_up_and_using_USB_connection |
| 10:09.15 | hiemanshu | djszapi: that was *before* |
| 10:09.17 | hiemanshu | not anymore |
| 10:09.32 | jabis | hrm - can't get rid of tnpclient - why has it got to be a hard-dep :/ |
| 10:09.34 | hiemanshu | or maybe it doesn't work over wireless |
| 10:10.10 | djszapi | hiemanshu: well, that is the public documentation now I can see. |
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| 10:15.18 | flux | via develsh I was able to change user passsword as well, and now ssh works fine (with keys) |
| 10:15.48 | jabis | where can I fiddle with package dependencies - I seriously want to remove track and protect but it's deps prohibit me from removing it -.- |
| 10:16.46 | flux | jabis, you cannot remove mp-harmattan-001-pr? |
| 10:17.16 | flux | (which appears to be its only dependant) |
| 10:17.25 | jabis | nup - dpkg and apt-get both error out |
| 10:17.43 | djszapi | faenil: how are you ? |
| 10:18.09 | jabis | both in devel-su and in develsh |
| 10:18.15 | faenil | fine ;) getting ready for devdays :) actually working on a uni project which is driving me mad :D |
| 10:18.17 | faenil | what bout u? |
| 10:19.05 | Stskeeps | djszapi: what command do i use to list what credentials a command has? |
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| 10:21.08 | meegomy | any workaround for flash player for browser? |
| 10:21.43 | sandst1 | phew. reflashed ^^ |
| 10:22.06 | xsacha_ | meegomy: yeah |
| 10:22.14 | djszapi | Stskeeps: accli -I -p `pidof your_command` |
| 10:22.18 | Stskeeps | thanks |
| 10:22.19 | xsacha_ | vnc viewer -> windows laptop -> chrome + flash 11 |
| 10:22.36 | djszapi | your_process* |
| 10:24.51 | djszapi | spenap: "...But I checked the sshd_config, and it still says PermitRootLogin yes..." -> really ? |
| 10:25.48 | spenap | yes, really |
| 10:27.44 | hiemanshu | Stskeeps: down to 1% but still slower than Beta2 |
| 10:28.08 | hiemanshu | it seems to be ignoring sshd_config, maybe hard coded in |
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| 10:37.39 | meegomy | xsacha_: sorry i dont understand |
| 10:38.05 | meegomy | u mean i cant install flash in the device itself? |
| 10:38.21 | xsacha_ | well not a hardware accelerated one |
| 10:38.32 | xsacha_ | technically there may be a way to get the n900 one in there |
| 10:38.40 | faenil | is there any info about OCF with 39-5? |
| 10:38.42 | xsacha_ | flash is proprietary so you cant exactly recompile it |
| 10:39.23 | meegomy | anyone done the flash migration from n900? |
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| 10:46.18 | xsacha_ | nokia shares up 11.5% lol |
| 10:46.44 | Stskeeps | still far to go |
| 10:47.01 | Stskeeps | 4.91eur, reach 8.48 and we're talking ;) |
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| 10:48.17 | Summeli | over 5EUR |
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| 10:59.10 | artemma | is thinking if new PR 1.1 features are worth the slow down or not.. |
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| 11:01.43 | faenil | artemma: so should I update or not XD |
| 11:02.34 | artemma | it depends :) |
| 11:02.56 | artemma | slow down isn't great, so if you like swype and taking skype with you, you can give it a try |
| 11:03.03 | djszapi | 'lo wazd o/ |
| 11:03.10 | artemma | you can always use onclickflasher to go back to beta2 |
| 11:03.29 | Corsac | is the reason known? |
| 11:03.37 | artemma | ? |
| 11:03.45 | Corsac | (for the slowdown) |
| 11:03.50 | artemma | no |
| 11:03.58 | djszapi | what slow down btw ? |
| 11:04.03 | artemma | maybe they just pushed to many fixes |
| 11:04.07 | faenil | you can go back to beta2? |
| 11:04.11 | Corsac | no idea, I don't own a device :/ |
| 11:04.18 | artemma | djszapi: to me everything is slightly slower on pr 1.1 |
| 11:04.27 | artemma | from messaging to opening Settings |
| 11:04.28 | Corsac | couldn't get an n950 and wondering about a n9 since 650⬠is a bit expensive |
| 11:05.08 | djszapi | artemma: weird. |
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| 11:05.18 | artemma | is going to reboot. Somehow Nokia Multemedia Transfer stopped detecting the device |
| 11:05.51 | artemma | I have many apps installed, so maybe it's e.g. MyMoves daemon that causes slow down |
| 11:06.08 | artemma | but somebody else on this channel also reported decreased speed |
| 11:06.23 | artemma | ok, to reboot now |
| 11:07.22 | xarcass | wonders whether there will be vibration level slider in the next fw update for the N9 |
| 11:09.56 | jabis | aegis fucked up my libssl update with no post-script blech... |
| 11:10.32 | djszapi | what was the exact error message ? |
| 11:11.33 | djszapi | faenil: btw, are you a Qt Ambassador ? There will be some embassy meetup at the qt dd.. |
| 11:11.41 | jabis | http://pastebin.com/cc1kDhmk |
| 11:12.11 | djszapi | and do you seriously say it is aegis ? :) |
| 11:13.35 | Corsac | sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/libssl1.0.0.postinst |
| 11:14.54 | jabis | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:15.31 | jabis | (putty log wouldn't scroll up to that point), just got them last lines |
| 11:15.45 | djszapi | jabis: well, it sounds like a simple installation issue |
| 11:15.51 | djszapi | nothing to do with aegis. |
| 11:16.19 | djszapi | aegis will complain about any installation and stuff like that issue even for general debian installation issues |
| 11:16.27 | Corsac | well, the postinst fails, at least. no indication why, that's all |
| 11:16.39 | djszapi | go and blame dpkg |
| 11:16.44 | Corsac | so it might be related to aegis but nobody can be sure before you're able to debug that postinst |
| 11:16.44 | djszapi | I mean dpkg.real |
| 11:16.47 | Corsac | not dpkg |
| 11:16.48 | Corsac | no |
| 11:16.54 | Corsac | /var/lib/dpkg/info/libssl1.0.0.postinst is what is failing |
| 11:17.01 | djszapi | go and blame dpkg.real |
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| 11:17.09 | Corsac | either |
| 11:17.16 | Corsac | dpkg isn't responsible for postinst failures |
| 11:17.27 | djszapi | yes, of course it is |
| 11:17.39 | djszapi | just modify the hashbang in a maintainer script and try to use dpkg on that |
| 11:17.58 | djszapi | on *any* dpkg powered systems. |
| 11:18.04 | Corsac | dpkg just runs the script, if they fail it can't do anything more than report back |
| 11:18.35 | djszapi | so how could aegis report if dpkg cannot do that itself ? |
| 11:19.00 | Corsac | I'm not saying it's aegis related |
| 11:19.08 | Corsac | the only thing we know from the paste is that the script failed |
| 11:19.22 | djszapi | first sentence: "aegis fucked up ..." :) |
| 11:19.22 | Corsac | so what jabis needs to do is to debug the script |
| 11:19.26 | Corsac | (using the command line) |
| 11:19.29 | djszapi | not from you tho. |
| 11:19.29 | Corsac | yeah but it's not mine |
| 11:19.37 | Corsac | I'm just giving info on how to progress |
| 11:19.52 | Corsac | I can't say it's aegis, but I'm not able to say it's not aegis either :) |
| 11:20.01 | djszapi | I can say for sure. |
| 11:20.11 | Corsac | if libssl postinst wants to mess with stuff aegis-protected I guess it could be aegis-related :) |
| 11:20.20 | djszapi | which would be complained ... |
| 11:20.33 | Corsac | you're more knowledgeable than me on this, I trust you :) |
| 11:20.44 | djszapi | well, jabis can check out the syslog :) |
| 11:20.51 | djszapi | he can go through the postinstall script |
| 11:21.32 | djszapi | I found similar issue for instnace when somehow the hashbang was wrong. |
| 11:21.35 | djszapi | instance* |
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| 11:26.06 | djszapi | Corsac: do you have experience with c-obs ? There is a compiler crash :P |
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| 11:28.22 | jabis | the package was borken it seems - I downloaded it locally and no errors & got it up and running - coolness |
| 11:28.40 | djszapi | aegis changed ? :) |
| 11:28.59 | jabis | this time aegis-installing instead of aegis-NOT-installing ^^ |
| 11:32.14 | Corsac | djszapi: c-obs? |
| 11:32.33 | Corsac | community-OBS? |
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| 11:33.34 | djszapi | Corsac: yup. |
| 11:34.07 | Corsac | never really investigated how it works |
| 11:34.14 | Corsac | but a compiler crash isn't directly related to OBS, is it? |
| 11:34.22 | Corsac | I mean, does it only happen in OBS? |
| 11:35.50 | djszapi | yeah |
| 11:36.14 | Corsac | with same environment (same installed packages etc.)? |
| 11:37.38 | djszapi | sb works, local "osc build" fails before trying to build, remote c-obs fails by crashing compiler (gcc) |
| 11:39.28 | Corsac | do you have log? |
| 11:43.29 | pinheiro | guys trying to use the sdk to port a few apps |
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| 11:43.51 | djszapi | Corsac: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=soprano&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard |
| 11:43.53 | pinheiro | but for exmaple the defoult example looks very wrong after yesterdays update |
| 11:44.39 | pinheiro | aka the hello world example apears inside a window |
| 11:44.44 | Corsac | build logs ending on kernel panic, nice |
| 11:44.50 | pinheiro | with a shadow |
| 11:45.23 | Corsac | djszapi: fun with C++, too |
| 11:45.29 | djszapi | Corsac: local "osc build" http://paste.kde.org/135607/ |
| 11:45.41 | djszapi | Corsac: no worry about kernel panic, c-obs always goes to that :p |
| 11:45.58 | djszapi | the point is the compiler crash during/afterthe moc generation. |
| 11:46.46 | Corsac | yeah |
| 11:46.50 | Corsac | fun with c++ |
| 11:46.55 | Corsac | afraid I can't really help you on this |
| 11:47.04 | Corsac | for local build it seems you have issues with perl dependencies |
| 11:47.06 | Corsac | reordering...Data::Dumper object version 2.130_02 does not match $Data::Dumper::VERSION 2.128 at /usr/lib/perl5/core_perl/DynaLoader.pm line 213. |
| 11:47.11 | M4rtinK | Corsac: I have one crashing Queumu :) https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=libgtk&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard |
| 11:47.13 | pinheiro | Qt Creator 2.3.0 not recent enough? |
| 11:48.31 | M4rtinK | and it also builds fine in some projects and fails horribly in similar others :) |
| 11:48.56 | Corsac | for the same package? |
| 11:49.17 | RST38h | yawns, moos eerily |
| 11:50.39 | M4rtinK | yep, see https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=libgtk&project=home%3AMartinK%3Agtk&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard |
| 11:51.40 | djszapi | M4rtinK: that is not a "real" crash. Actually your package creation went fine. https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=libgtk&project=home%3AMartinK%3Agtk |
| 11:51.52 | djszapi | you can see the generated debS below.. |
| 11:53.29 | M4rtinK | yeah, I know - it works in my project (home:MartinK:gtk) but fails in yours (home:rzr:harmattan) |
| 11:53.40 | M4rtinK | see the first link |
| 11:55.42 | djszapi | unfortunately, my package works nowhere apart from sb. |
| 11:56.38 | M4rtinK | have you tried disabling the OBS parallel build ? |
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| 11:58.04 | M4rtinK | that fixed a few packages building in sb but not on OBS for me |
| 11:58.58 | djszapi | what is the exact entry in the rules ? I do not know by heart :p |
| 11:59.34 | djszapi | but yeah, sb works here, c-obs is the culsprit. |
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| 12:03.49 | M4rtinK | djszapi: .NOTPARALLEL: |
| 12:04.16 | M4rtinK | and I have been adding it on the end of the rules file, btw :) |
| 12:05.27 | djszapi | cannot these segfaults be manipulated somehow by obs settings ? |
| 12:07.58 | M4rtinK | I have a theory you might want to try out :) |
| 12:08.22 | djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=kdebase-runtime&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard -> another segfault, mmm |
| 12:08.27 | M4rtinK | that older project are somehow different from the new ones |
| 12:08.34 | djszapi | there are many segfaults on c-obs recently. I have never really had so many. |
| 12:08.53 | svuorela | try export C_OBS_NO_SEGFAULTS=1 |
| 12:09.39 | djszapi | =) |
| 12:09.49 | M4rtinK | maybe try in a new & clean project first and then in the old one ? |
| 12:09.59 | M4rtinK | just an idea :) |
| 12:10.17 | djszapi | I tried in my repo (not rzr) |
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| 12:12.54 | M4rtinK | so that concludes my theory in this case :) |
| 12:12.54 | djszapi | have you ever made local "osc build" ? |
| 12:14.50 | M4rtinK | yep |
| 12:15.05 | djszapi | M4rtinK: well, could you please try to import soprano and its dependencies into your tree pls ? Your repo might have some magic :) |
| 12:15.14 | M4rtinK | ok :D |
| 12:15.37 | M4rtinK | which source project ? |
| 12:16.15 | djszapi | for instance mine, but it is also good if you try to either build it locally or if you have idea what is wrong about my local "osc build". |
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| 12:24.03 | M4rtinK | looks like something's wrong with the COBS interface... |
| 12:27.14 | faenil | m4rtinK: it's unreachable |
| 12:27.24 | M4rtinK | nice :) |
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| 12:28.19 | M4rtinK | oh, seems to be working again |
| 12:29.36 | djszapi | what where when ? :) |
| 12:29.53 | M4rtinK | COBS api :) |
| 12:30.28 | djszapi | do you mean I should re-try the "osc build" or .. ? |
| 12:32.45 | M4rtinK | nope, I meant there was just a COBS outage |
| 12:32.55 | M4rtinK | I have imported the package |
| 12:32.57 | rcg | uhm did anyone notice quite significant battery drain since the last update? |
| 12:33.02 | rcg | on n950 that is |
| 12:33.37 | rcg | top shows /usr/bin/messageserver running constantly with ~60% and /sbin/syslogd with ~40% |
| 12:33.46 | rcg | is this a known issue? |
| 12:33.56 | M4rtinK | and I'm now working on importing its many dependencies :) |
| 12:34.18 | M4rtinK | btw, any way of importing a package with its dependencies or at least more packages at once ? |
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| 12:35.41 | jkt | so it seems I got hit by http://bit.ly/rffn73. One-click-flasher restored the brick, but I made a spectacular failure by not saving the backup to an off-phone media (duh). |
| 12:36.01 | jkt | right now, I'm downloading the OTA image once again. Actually, it's installing now. |
| 12:36.32 | jkt | anyway, I have an old backup from late August. When I tried to restore it, the calendar worked, but I did not get my contacts back -- is that expected? |
| 12:36.32 | rcg | apparently messageserver is gone berserk and keeps spamming syslog with: "[Warning] QAbstractSocket::waitForBytesWritten() is not allowed in UnconnectedState" |
| 12:36.51 | djszapi | M4rtinK: I think you better checkout the repo there, and try to build locally. |
| 12:39.23 | jkt | I know, it's a developer device which comes with no warranty. It's also clearly my fault for not creating a proper backup. Still, I'm rather disappointed now :( |
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| 12:40.29 | M4rtinK | djszapi: well, I'd rather try to build it in the context off all the other packages in my various repositories first :) |
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| 12:46.07 | M4rtinK | djszapi: btw, which package from your project provides librdf0-dev ? |
| 12:47.41 | djszapi | libraptor ? |
| 12:47.47 | djszapi | or redland ? dunno by heart, sorry. |
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| 12:48.26 | djszapi | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/redland/redland_1.0.13-3.dsc -> there you go, redland |
| 12:48.43 | M4rtinK | ok :) |
| 12:59.19 | M4rtinK | djszapi: well, this is getting crazier and crazier :) libiodbc2 fails to compile in all my projects (home:MartinK:gtk/harmattan/testing) |
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| 13:00.18 | M4rtinK | always: internalâcompilerâerror:âSegmentationâfault |
| 13:01.13 | djszapi | okay, so probably regressions in c-obs ... |
| 13:02.45 | M4rtinK | looks like it |
| 13:03.38 | M4rtinK | or incorrectly declared dependencies |
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| 13:13.20 | faenil | I'm hating N950 antenna... |
| 13:13.32 | faenil | It always loses signal, I'm never reachable, people start hating me! |
| 13:13.43 | Stskeeps | did you upgrade to beta2 + ssu? |
| 13:14.20 | faenil | I have beta2 atm...just flashed this morning after trying CE yesterday (where I could not receive smses, calls, and stuff :D) |
| 13:14.25 | hiemanshu | thats odd, I speak for hours at a stretch on the phone without an issue |
| 13:14.57 | faenil | hiemanshu: I'm starting to think it's just a matter of network status refresh timing issue... |
| 13:14.59 | aenbacka | hello everyone; anyone know that could be the problem when receiving error "debian/rules clean" fails in the Harmattan COBS? The build succeeds in Harmattan SDK (scratchbox). |
| 13:15.12 | faenil | if I wait for some minutes, it goes from 0 to like 5! |
| 13:15.17 | faenil | (signal bars) |
| 13:15.27 | faenil | but I can't wait 5 minutes to see if there's signal in that zone... |
| 13:15.42 | faenil | I'll make a comparison video with my N8 and my gf's C5-03 |
| 13:15.47 | faenil | it's unbelievable... |
| 13:16.00 | djszapi | M4rtinK: does the "osc build" work for you in general ? |
| 13:16.05 | faenil | anyway, Stskeeps, does 39-5 address antenna's issues? |
| 13:16.13 | hiemanshu | faenil: a little slow in refreshing I can agree yes |
| 13:16.20 | M4rtinK | yep |
| 13:16.39 | djszapi | M4rtinK: have you seen my error about that, and do you have an idea what can go wrong ? |
| 13:16.41 | M4rtinK | I even get the same libgtk error with it |
| 13:16.57 | faenil | hiemanshu: I'm really having a hard time...I always have to keep it in the same spot on the desk, otherwise I know I won't be reachable... |
| 13:17.10 | faenil | what I have noticed is, it refreshes fast when there is signal.. |
| 13:17.11 | hiemanshu | faenil: works with other phones? |
| 13:17.25 | faenil | but once it goes to "no network", it takes ages to come back to life, even if there's signal |
| 13:17.32 | faenil | hiemanshu: yes |
| 13:17.35 | djszapi | faenil: maybe aegis ? :p |
| 13:17.36 | djszapi | hides |
| 13:17.42 | faenil | djszapi: lol :P |
| 13:17.52 | M4rtinK | I would say it is probably an C-OBS issue |
| 13:18.03 | faenil | xD |
| 13:18.25 | hiemanshu | djszapi: ofc, if nothing works, blame aegis |
| 13:18.36 | faenil | djszapi knows it well :P |
| 13:18.49 | hiemanshu | faenil: thats odd, I got perfect network everywhere, except I missed calls before the pocket made the phone silent |
| 13:19.02 | faenil | argh :( |
| 13:19.19 | faenil | I'll make a comparison video :P |
| 13:19.20 | M4rtinK | djszapi: for example, yayjl finished building in on project, triggering raptor2 rebuild, that now fails :) |
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| 13:20.14 | djszapi | M4rtinK: I see. What bugs me is that, I cannot even build any packages locally by using "osc build". |
| 13:20.32 | djszapi | what distribution do you use ? |
| 13:20.34 | faenil | first try |
| 13:20.38 | faenil | unreachable, just put on desk |
| 13:20.54 | djszapi | faenil: as a workaround, try to relocate :) |
| 13:20.55 | hiemanshu | faenil: update and see if that fixes anything |
| 13:21.00 | faenil | let's see how long it takes to get signal again |
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| 13:21.24 | M4rtinK | im off, will look at it again when I get back :) bye |
| 13:21.30 | faenil | hiemanshu: I will, when I get home |
| 13:21.49 | faenil | signal back...about 1 minute and a half |
| 13:22.18 | hiemanshu | faenil: and also keep spare phones :P the sim in my N950 only has a data plan, and no one has that number, so its never an issue really |
| 13:22.34 | faenil | :P |
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| 13:23.26 | hiemanshu | I carry around 3 phones, not including the N950 in my bag |
| 13:23.52 | faenil | good for you :P |
| 13:24.09 | faenil | I have N8, but it's not quite the same UX as the N950 :D |
| 13:24.23 | matrixx | at the beta1 software time I had to carry both N950 and N8 |
| 13:24.35 | matrixx | to ensure that I have at least one phone which works for calling :D |
| 13:24.49 | faenil | matrixx: lol :D so you agree :D |
| 13:25.02 | djszapi | so that is why Nokia gave out n8s to Qt Ambassadors recently ... :) |
| 13:25.15 | matrixx | I don't have had problems with signal, but with call-ui |
| 13:25.21 | faenil | oh, ok |
| 13:25.30 | matrixx | sometimes it didn't come up and I couldn't answer the phone |
| 13:25.45 | faenil | djszapi: I had to pay for my N8 :D actually, people who visited my website did :D |
| 13:26.01 | matrixx | and sometime green/red buttons disappeared during a call and I couldn't hang up :D |
| 13:26.08 | djszapi | faenil: was just wondering why Nokia gave out recently N8 gadgets to Ambassadors.. |
| 13:26.14 | faenil | :) |
| 13:26.31 | faenil | djszapi: yeah ;) |
| 13:26.39 | matrixx | but sure I haven't have any of these problems with even beta2 |
| 13:28.01 | faenil | djszapi: are you leaving today? |
| 13:29.44 | djszapi | at 04:00 am tomorrow :p |
| 13:30.04 | hiemanshu | djszapi: probably because they had extras lying around :P |
| 13:30.35 | djszapi | frankly, I would be happier with 2 Ambassador T-Shirts than one shirt and one N8 :p |
| 13:30.52 | hiemanshu | and swype is so awesome on this phone, and with the proper width, its easy to use as well |
| 13:31.31 | faenil | hiemanshu: yeah I'm looking forward to updating...I have been for swype for ages :D |
| 13:31.38 | faenil | been waiting* |
| 13:31.54 | djszapi | faenil: btw...you can join the Gluon team on Sunday if you wanna. We will be at the Munich Nokia office. |
| 13:32.25 | faenil | djszapi: that's great! :) |
| 13:33.02 | hiemanshu | faenil: yeah, swype is much faster when you want to use only one fingure |
| 13:33.06 | hiemanshu | finger* |
| 13:33.25 | faenil | hiemanshu: it's definitely faster than physical kb too imho |
| 13:33.59 | jreznik | has also Nokia C0 too but it has not very usable ui |
| 13:34.03 | hiemanshu | faenil: I use the phy keyboard when i want to talk and type together |
| 13:34.11 | faenil | only me at notebook is faster than me at swype :D |
| 13:34.17 | faenil | yeah |
| 13:35.39 | hiemanshu | I am learning to swype without looking to, and later fixing mistakes |
| 13:35.53 | faenil | hopes to be able to code using his N950 one day :) with external monitor and kb |
| 13:36.03 | faenil | hiemanshu: that's difficult :) |
| 13:36.04 | djszapi | faenil: btw, what do you use in your game(s) for audio ? |
| 13:36.22 | xsacha_ | faenil: that's what tablets are for ;) |
| 13:36.24 | hiemanshu | faenil: not impossible :P |
| 13:36.44 | faenil | djszapi: haven't done anything on the game since beginning of september...Busy on another uni project (one of the two exams missing).... |
| 13:36.52 | xsacha_ | i plan to make my playbook a coding machine. it has 1080p output with micro hdmi. and it works with bluetooth keyboard |
| 13:37.02 | faenil | djszapi: anyway, I used SoundEffect and Audio from Qml, and both sucked :D |
| 13:37.13 | faenil | SoundEffect did not play, Audio could not be repeated :D |
| 13:37.46 | faenil | xsacha_: but that requires a tablet, which is way bigger than a phone :) |
| 13:38.01 | xsacha_ | well at least get a phone with hdmi out |
| 13:38.12 | faenil | xsacha_: I know, I know :P |
| 13:38.15 | xsacha_ | this tv out (via headphone jack) is just weak.. reminds me of a 5800 |
| 13:38.24 | faenil | xsacha_: which is not that bad :) |
| 13:38.30 | djszapi | faenil: I started writing a QtOpenAL module for 3d audio. |
| 13:38.31 | xsacha_ | in fact, i still have the 5800 cable so i can use tv out with this n9 |
| 13:38.36 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: get an Asus transformer, install Meego on it, ????, PROFIT :D |
| 13:38.41 | faenil | djszapi: wow :) |
| 13:38.50 | xsacha_ | hiemanshu: i already have an asus transformer :) why meego on it? |
| 13:39.13 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: damn you rich people, and meego because its awesome |
| 13:39.29 | faenil | hiemanshu: exactly xD student life is hard xD |
| 13:39.34 | hiemanshu | probably Mer + Plasma Active |
| 13:39.35 | xsacha_ | doesnt bring me any closer to getting an IDE |
| 13:39.38 | hiemanshu | faenil: yeah |
| 13:39.42 | xsacha_ | yeah i'm a poor uni student |
| 13:40.05 | xsacha_ | with free wares to lure me away from study/research |
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| 13:41.06 | xsacha_ | is there an IDE on any mobile platform? |
| 13:41.45 | xsacha_ | how hard would it be to say, port QtCreator (written in Qt)? I don't care about the UI since I'll be using kb+mouse |
| 13:42.55 | faenil | just received 3 smses which were sent 2 hours ago....:( |
| 13:42.57 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: all you need is a compiler and an editor |
| 13:43.07 | hiemanshu | faenil: haha, time to get another extra phone :P |
| 13:43.20 | xsacha_ | hiemanshu: all i need.. sure.. gcc and vim.. |
| 13:43.23 | xsacha_ | but i want a damn good IDE |
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| 13:43.42 | faenil | hiemanshu: I'll first try updating to 39- |
| 13:43.47 | faenil | 39-5 |
| 13:43.50 | faenil | and then will decide |
| 13:43.56 | xsacha_ | unpaid US students loans >$1 trillion ... wow! |
| 13:44.32 | xsacha_ | in my country, the government lets you study for free (but takes some money back later if you work in the country and earn enough) |
| 13:45.15 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/armel/qtcreator/download |
| 13:45.17 | hiemanshu | there you go |
| 13:45.28 | xsacha_ | cool thanks! |
| 13:46.01 | hiemanshu | I am pretty sure other distros will have them too, or you can use that as a base, see the patches if any, and compile a later version yourself |
| 13:46.04 | faenil | here it depends on your family economical status |
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| 13:46.38 | hiemanshu | I paid like $650 a year, only college fees, stayed at my own place, scholarship |
| 13:47.26 | faenil | I'm paying 350⬠a year... |
| 13:47.45 | faenil | but I have to pay rent and food :D (money from parents, atm, and some earned with the website) |
| 13:48.13 | faenil | my own place is 600Km from here, so no way :D |
| 13:49.39 | hiemanshu | ah, I stayed like a km from my college |
| 13:49.44 | hiemanshu | so I could walk to college every day |
| 13:50.01 | faenil | I see... |
| 13:50.14 | faenil | isn't college high school? |
| 13:50.45 | faenil | or is it same as university? I don't remember the namings :) |
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| 13:52.17 | xsacha_ | hiemanshu: is it possible to use that version directly? |
| 13:52.34 | hiemanshu | faenil: same as uni |
| 13:52.49 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: should be, if you all the deps for it |
| 13:52.57 | faenil | hiemanshu: ok :) |
| 13:53.29 | faenil | now imagine yourself taking out your n950 from the pocket, connecting it to the monitor, and start coding :D |
| 13:53.32 | hiemanshu | faenil: college is more divided in the sense, they are affliated to a specific uni, and you dont really have to go to the Uni (which might be in a different city or even state) |
| 13:53.59 | faenil | hiemanshu: o_O |
| 13:54.39 | xsacha_ | i had to pay $0/year.. government paid me about $10k/yr in undergrad (no scholarship) but i had scholarship too |
| 13:55.34 | xsacha_ | hiemanshu: apt-get install qtcreator 23 upgraded, 56 newly installed, 470 to be removed... |
| 13:55.59 | xsacha_ | hiemanshu: "After this operation, 1, 025MB disk space will be freed" |
| 13:56.32 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: haha, lol, what is it removing? |
| 13:56.44 | faenil | LOOL |
| 13:56.44 | xsacha_ | you know all the packages that come with the phone? |
| 13:56.45 | faenil | removing 1Gb?XD |
| 13:56.45 | xsacha_ | yeah those |
| 13:56.53 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: expected :P |
| 13:57.12 | faenil | you have to sacrifice the phone if you want qtcreator |
| 13:57.24 | flux | maybe only half of them |
| 13:57.30 | flux | my device has 1061 packages installed |
| 13:57.33 | xsacha_ | y/N? Y |
| 13:57.36 | faenil | is anyone coming to Qt Dev Days?!!? :) |
| 13:57.48 | hiemanshu | faenil: if you will pay for me to come, sure :) |
| 13:57.53 | hiemanshu | xsacha_: DO IT! :D |
| 13:58.07 | faenil | hiemanshu: I'm not paying for myself, lol |
| 13:58.12 | xsacha_ | yeah what's the worst that could happen? |
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| 13:58.15 | faenil | hiemanshu: how can I pay for you :D |
| 13:58.29 | xsacha_ | having to set up 10 email/social networking/messages accounts again? no probs |
| 13:58.38 | xsacha_ | backup :) |
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| 13:59.08 | faenil | hiemanshu: sponsors love young people :P |
| 13:59.29 | hiemanshu | faenil: I know, I cant get any more leaves though |
| 13:59.46 | faenil | hiemanshu: oh well, if you're working, that's another thing ;) |
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| 14:00.46 | hiemanshu | faenil: well I barely get any money, so cant afford, I have to give up FUDCon next month just becuase of the leave issues |
| 14:02.06 | faenil | hiemanshu: no problem ;) |
| 14:07.59 | djszapi | matrixx: http://fruct.org/sites/default/files/conference10/FRUCT10_Program_v1.pdf |
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| 14:12.12 | gri | faenil, I don't have a ticked for dev days, but we could meet at some burger king next to it :P |
| 14:13.04 | faenil | gri: ahahha have you got an N950? |
| 14:13.12 | gri | of course |
| 14:13.32 | faenil | gri: so you could try sneaking in...none will ask, lol |
| 14:14.03 | gri | I don't think they accept this as entry ticket :) |
| 14:15.03 | faenil | you have to avoid the reception desk of course :P |
| 14:15.20 | faenil | do you live in Munich? |
| 14:15.34 | gri | 60 km next to it |
| 14:15.47 | djszapi | mmm...there is no wi-fi at the airport .. |
| 14:15.50 | djszapi | free* |
| 14:16.05 | faenil | if I were you, I'd contact the Developer Outreach Manager for your country, that's how I got my ticket :) |
| 14:16.21 | faenil | and it's not late |
| 14:16.44 | Tuju | so, i bricked 950 - any fast way to reflash it in fedora 15? |
| 14:16.58 | faenil | Tuju: use flasher and flash 34-2 image? |
| 14:18.17 | faenil | gri: looking for his email? lol |
| 14:18.49 | GeneralAntilles | Anybody figured out the trick to OTA updates yet? |
| 14:19.03 | xsacha_ | forcing ota updates on n9? |
| 14:19.12 | djszapi | faenil: actually I had two ticket options :p |
| 14:19.27 | GeneralAntilles | Actually getting the N950 to update |
| 14:19.33 | GeneralAntilles | Or has there maybe been a flasher released? |
| 14:19.50 | gri | faenil, problem is I have university at these days :( |
| 14:19.58 | faenil | djszapi: screw you :P |
| 14:20.18 | faenil | gri: me too...but who cares?? It's 3 days of lectures vs 3 days of Qt Dev Days!!! |
| 14:20.18 | faenil | are you kidding? :P |
| 14:20.50 | RST38h | General: Flash to beta2 then OTA |
| 14:20.59 | djszapi | + many new business cards :) |
| 14:21.04 | RST38h | General: [have not tried it, getting beta2 now] |
| 14:21.05 | djszapi | + fun and everything =) |
| 14:22.13 | gri | faenil, I have compulsory attendance on wednesday, but I could ask to skip this |
| 14:22.55 | faenil | gri: I see...well I have given you the hint, now it's your turn, you'll find the way if you care about it ;) |
| 14:23.33 | djszapi | faenil: sounds like you act as a Qt Ambassador ;) |
| 14:23.47 | RST38h | ambassawhat? |
| 14:23.59 | hardaker | GeneralAntilles: I have beta2 (as of a few days ago): I assume you're talking about the OTA you get prompted for after that? |
| 14:24.07 | GeneralAntilles | PR1.1, yes. |
| 14:24.10 | hardaker | if so, doesn't work for me either. Always stops with "interrupted, retry?" |
| 14:24.14 | faenil | djszapi: but I don't have the badge nor free N8s (yet) :D |
| 14:24.44 | gri | faenil, how to find out the contact person? what language does he/she speak? :) |
| 14:24.46 | rcg | hardaker: did so for me too.. but it rebooted and it seems to have been updated |
| 14:25.05 | hardaker | rcg: I did reboot once, so I doubt that's the case for me. |
| 14:25.16 | rcg | ic |
| 14:25.36 | faenil | gri: look for it :) Developer Outreach Manager for Nokia Germany |
| 14:26.59 | gri | faenil, so I should write german or english? |
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| 14:27.50 | faenil | gri: if he's working in Nokia germany... :P |
| 14:28.21 | gri | well, there are also nokians in finland who don't speak finnish :) |
| 14:28.23 | djszapi | I would write English. |
| 14:28.29 | djszapi | yep, that is why ^ |
| 14:28.56 | faenil | gri: ok :) |
| 14:30.51 | djszapi | faenil: I would highly recommend you the unconference day btw |
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| 14:31.28 | GeneralAntilles | I wish the damn thing would give me a real error message. |
| 14:31.33 | faenil | djszapi: sure, I'm letting my nerd and city-museums souls fight ;) |
| 14:31.36 | GeneralAntilles | There must be some reason why it fails every time. |
| 14:31.46 | djszapi | faenil: uncoference day is a qt contributor day .. |
| 14:31.58 | djszapi | in an unconference style.. |
| 14:32.21 | faenil | djszapi: great :) |
| 14:32.41 | faenil | djszapi: that's not a problem, I guess that's better than visiting the city xD |
| 14:32.50 | djszapi | http://community.kde.org/Qt_Contributors_Day |
| 14:33.05 | Tuju | faenil: thanks, i look into it later. |
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| 14:33.47 | faenil | Tuju: ask if you need ;) |
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| 14:44.41 | djszapi | faenil: I am off soon for a sleep before the traveling, see you in Munich ;) |
| 14:45.16 | faenil | djszapi: ok, cya ;) send me an email with some contact details please :D |
| 14:45.24 | djszapi | djszapi@freenode :) |
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| 14:45.41 | faenil | got an email there too? lol |
| 14:45.46 | djszapi | I will be there at my company booth during the dd |
| 14:45.53 | faenil | anyway, I meant something less internet-depending :P |
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| 15:52.47 | pinheiro | guys so im doing this qml app and i cant get rid ot the bottom bar |
| 15:52.54 | pinheiro | of |
| 15:53.15 | xsacha_ | view.show(); ? |
| 15:53.26 | pinheiro | were? |
| 15:53.30 | xsacha_ | in the main.cpp |
| 15:53.31 | pinheiro | in the qml main |
| 15:53.36 | pinheiro | haaaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 15:54.23 | xsacha_ | there is more than one show option :P |
| 15:54.45 | pinheiro | douugh my c++ knonage = -256 |
| 15:54.54 | pinheiro | qml fine |
| 15:54.56 | pinheiro | :D |
| 15:55.03 | xsacha_ | art = genius ;) |
| 15:55.07 | pinheiro | c++ nooooo |
| 15:55.27 | pinheiro | so were in the c++? |
| 15:55.30 | xsacha_ | love your icons |
| 15:55.46 | djszapi | pinheiro: after the view construction for instance before the event loop |
| 15:56.00 | pinheiro | D |
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| 15:56.10 | pinheiro | and in english? |
| 15:56.12 | pinheiro | :D |
| 15:56.13 | xsacha_ | is there a line with view.showSomething(); ? |
| 15:56.23 | xsacha_ | probably before app.exec() |
| 15:56.28 | merlin1991 | Just pastebin and we can point fingers |
| 15:57.07 | pinheiro | http://pastebin.com/J7Rk1UjX |
| 15:57.15 | djszapi | pinheiro: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Simple_Helloworld_in_Qt |
| 15:58.00 | pinheiro | me was more hoping for somthing... you can do it all in qml :D |
| 15:58.08 | pinheiro | thst what i know |
| 15:58.09 | pinheiro | :D |
| 15:58.12 | djszapi | pinheiro: where is your main function ? |
| 15:58.27 | djszapi | where is the event loop (app.exec()) ? |
| 15:58.39 | pinheiro | like i would know that :D |
| 15:58.41 | djszapi | pinheiro: what do you need c++ for ? |
| 15:58.57 | pinheiro | i just want a blank qml canvas |
| 15:59.04 | pinheiro | :D |
| 15:59.19 | djszapi | you could test that with qmlviewer for now |
| 15:59.35 | pinheiro | naaaaaaa i want to do a working aplication |
| 15:59.48 | djszapi | yes of course, you can add the C++ at the end |
| 15:59.50 | pinheiro | was almost working before the update yesterday |
| 15:59.57 | pinheiro | now ist wird |
| 16:00.03 | pinheiro | me takes a screnshoot |
| 16:00.08 | djszapi | but anyway, all you need is the simple helloworld schema above :) |
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| 16:01.36 | djszapi | pinheiro: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/games/gluon/repository/revisions/master/entry/player/touch/main.cpp#L24 |
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| 16:02.03 | djszapi | use your view instead of the gameWindowManager |
| 16:02.13 | xsacha_ | pinheiro: that's not your project main.cpp? |
| 16:02.46 | xsacha_ | yours will look like that link above |
| 16:03.10 | pinheiro | [16:58] <djszapi> pinheiro: what do you need c++ for ? |
| 16:03.13 | pinheiro | sory |
| 16:03.18 | pinheiro | http://pastebin.com/wqWTbNyH |
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| 16:04.53 | xsacha_ | pinheiro: the showExpanded(); change that to show(); |
| 16:05.32 | djszapi | xsacha_: it is his own class, and he handles the show properly, see the first link |
| 16:06.24 | djszapi | pinheiro: btw, what bottom bar do you mean ? |
| 16:06.50 | xsacha_ | that coloured bar at the bottom in fullscreen mode |
| 16:07.04 | pinheiro | also sftp stoped working :( |
| 16:07.15 | djszapi | pinheiro: #if defined(Q_OS_SYMBIAN) || defined(MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN) || defined(Q_WS_SIMULATOR) showFullScreen(); |
| 16:07.15 | pinheiro | yes |
| 16:07.24 | djszapi | that is the reason probably. |
| 16:07.39 | xsacha_ | yes if you just use show() directly, it works fine |
| 16:07.39 | djszapi | I am sorry, xsacha_ was right |
| 16:07.46 | pinheiro | thst defoult made by qt creator code btw |
| 16:07.59 | xsacha_ | yeah i know, it does that on symbian and meego |
| 16:08.13 | xsacha_ | annoying :P |
| 16:08.37 | djszapi | pinheiro: http://pastebin.com/wqWTbNyH 11th line -> viewer.showExpanded(); -> viewer.show(); |
| 16:09.28 | pinheiro | oki |
| 16:10.37 | djszapi | #ifdef Q_OS_UNIX |
| 16:10.39 | djszapi | #ifdef Q_OS_MAC |
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| 16:10.44 | djszapi | wow ^ :) |
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| 16:31.44 | pinheiro | emacs |
| 16:32.54 | pinheiro | btw viewer.showFullscreen(); = error has no member nembed showFullscreen |
| 16:33.02 | pinheiro | named |
| 16:33.10 | djszapi | Screen |
| 16:33.36 | pinheiro | :) |
| 16:33.42 | djszapi | capital S |
| 16:33.46 | djszapi | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.8/qwidget.html#showFullScreen |
| 16:34.26 | pinheiro | haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 16:34.28 | pinheiro | it works |
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| 16:35.03 | pinheiro | dough i dont mind the top bar |
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| 16:43.41 | djszapi | pinheiro: time to write a multi-threaded application ;) |
| 16:44.13 | pinheiro | right |
| 16:44.27 | pinheiro | dough qml in 5.0 will do that for me right ? |
| 16:44.29 | pinheiro | ;) |
| 16:44.41 | pinheiro | its all magic |
| 16:45.09 | pinheiro | more pargamaticly how do i chage the traget build to the device |
| 16:45.11 | pinheiro | ? |
| 16:45.34 | pinheiro | never mind found it |
| 16:47.32 | pinheiro | yepie |
| 16:47.46 | pinheiro | perfecto works like a charm |
| 16:47.50 | pinheiro | yay |
| 16:48.35 | pinheiro | now a but more features and think i can put it on the store |
| 16:48.57 | pinheiro | its real a nice clock for wone is doing presentations |
| 16:49.50 | kulve | are there any working open source examples for the meego sharing framework plugins in harmattan? I'm trying to create my own but could use some help with it.. |
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| 18:21.23 | djszapi | Venemo: o/ |
| 18:23.06 | Venemo | hey djszapi :) |
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| 18:56.47 | awallin_ | on an N9, is it possible to have STARTTLS on port 587 as outgoing smtp-settings? I tried a few settings but couldn't send email |
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| 19:10.59 | Hq` | hey, anyone interested in trying an alternative terminal, check this out http://hqh.unlink.org/harmattan/ |
| 19:11.02 | Hq` | :) |
| 19:12.12 | gri | wow, arrow keys ;) |
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| 19:16.47 | gri | Hq`, any way to scroll up? |
| 19:17.40 | Hq` | nope, not yet :) |
| 19:17.55 | Hq` | it saves the buffer but the ui lacks the means to scroll |
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| 19:41.47 | RST38h | Gentlemen, what is the password to "developer" ssh account??? |
| 19:44.57 | neal | ask jack ;) |
| 19:45.08 | NIN101 | not owning a harmattan device, but I read it was "rootme". |
| 19:45.24 | neal | that's for root |
| 19:45.56 | Hq` | open "sdk connection" on the device and it will randomize the password for you |
| 19:46.29 | RST38h | ??? |
| 19:52.16 | RST38h | Hq: Got it! |
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| 19:58.31 | ieatlint | as a note, it will remain that password until sdk connection is run again |
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| 20:02.13 | lardman | evening chaps |
| 20:02.15 | lardman | more qml questions |
| 20:02.36 | lardman | does one have to use a Q_PROPERTY construct to retrieve a value from a C++ extension? |
| 20:03.10 | lardman | I see that e.g. slots can be called directly, or functions with Q_INVOKABLE, do the latter have a void return type? |
| 20:03.51 | djszapi | a slot is a simple function, it can have anything that a simple function can. |
| 20:03.59 | djszapi | Q_INVOKABLE does not change it either. |
| 20:04.24 | lardman | in which case does one need to use Q_PROPERTY to return a value from C++ to QML? |
| 20:04.40 | lardman | or does that just mean you don't need to add the () in the QML code? ;) |
| 20:04.59 | djszapi | I do not understand what you mean, can you give an example, please ? |
| 20:05.30 | lardman | sure, I would like my C++ code to return a number of strings to the QML code: title of page, email address, email subject and email body |
| 20:05.50 | Hq` | if you want the value to automatically update in qml, then the property is probably a better choice |
| 20:06.02 | lardman | my plugin is instantiated as a QML item, and I want to call either methods or read properties to get these strings back |
| 20:06.47 | lardman | Hq`: auto updating isn't an issue, though I'd be interested to know how that works on the C++ side |
| 20:07.15 | djszapi | easy, just one setting inside the Q_PROPERTY macro |
| 20:07.30 | djszapi | NOTIFY somethingHappened |
| 20:08.41 | djszapi | lardman: isn't it what you look for ? http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qml-extending.html |
| 20:10.36 | lardman | not sure, certainly I'm looking at that, but equally one of the examples calls a function directly (with Q_INVOKABLE and also mentions that a slot is callable) |
| 20:11.20 | lardman | oh I see, how the updates are performed, cool |
| 20:24.10 | M4rtinK | djszapi: btw, various packages still randomly segfaulting the (C++) compiler |
| 20:24.31 | M4rtinK | for example: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=clucene-core&project=home%3AMartinK%3Agtk&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard |
| 20:24.39 | djszapi | M4rtinK: :( |
| 20:24.59 | M4rtinK | this one builds fine in your project :) |
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| 20:25.51 | djszapi | because it build many weeks ago, I think. |
| 20:26.14 | djszapi | if I tried to rebuild it, it would probably fail the same way as for you. I do think it is regression as I said in the morning. |
| 20:27.02 | M4rtinK | anyway, this just should not happen - the package should be either unresolvable or fail |
| 20:27.30 | M4rtinK | not fail depending on unrelated packages and/or randomly... |
| 20:28.44 | djszapi | yeah, does it also fail for a local build ? |
| 20:30.09 | M4rtinK | I'll check it out |
| 20:34.18 | RST38h | To clarify: the last Harmattan update comes without Skype connectivity? |
| 20:34.40 | gri | swipe, swype but no skype |
| 20:34.57 | RST38h | hm |
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| 20:56.35 | djszapi | is there an alarm application for Harmattan ? |
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| 21:06.22 | SpeedEvil | I assume you don't mean the 'alarm' ? |
| 21:06.47 | SpeedEvil | 'clock' |
| 21:07.27 | ieatlint | you can also use the calendar |
| 21:07.38 | ieatlint | but yeah, the clock has basic alarm functionality |
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| 21:15.06 | mzanetti | what is the correct way to set a toolbar icon to "selected"? |
| 21:15.22 | mzanetti | in QML using the ToolIcon Element? |
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| 22:20.35 | pcfe | apologies, I must simply be blind, how do I subscribe (like in bugzilla) a bug at http://www.developer.nokia.com/bugs or are automatic email updates on bug activity linked to voting for it? |
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| 23:38.45 | pcfe | ah, http://www.developer.nokia.com/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=222 |
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