| 00:16.26 | DocScrutinizer | I installed several gnu-tools from fremantle, works just fine |
| 00:17.01 | ieatlint | i still think hacking your base osx system is a worse idea than modifying a script in the sdk :P |
| 00:19.36 | Venemo | sadly says goodbye to his N950 |
| 00:22.01 | RST38h | ? |
| 00:22.40 | Venemo | RST38h, http://kepfeltoltes.hu/110925/20110925_002_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg |
| 00:22.49 | Venemo | they promised to send me another one |
| 00:22.54 | Venemo | this one has serious pixel errors |
| 00:22.58 | RST38h | Oh, that LCD issue... |
| 00:23.01 | Venemo | yeah. |
| 00:23.09 | Venemo | and the errors have been growing over time |
| 00:23.20 | Venemo | I'm currently reflashing the device |
| 00:25.33 | ieatlint | i think we have an idea of why this wasn't released :P |
| 00:27.25 | Venemo | hm? |
| 00:27.43 | ieatlint | just seems like there's been a noticeable number of device failures |
| 00:27.54 | Venemo | :D |
| 00:29.48 | Venemo | anyway, I gotta go sleep now |
| 00:30.00 | Venemo | just loading up my N900 |
| 00:33.54 | DocScrutinizer | ieatlint: absolutely normal for a PV run |
| 00:34.11 | Venemo | PV=? |
| 00:35.20 | DocScrutinizer | Production Valdidation |
| 00:35.26 | DocScrutinizer | -d |
| 00:35.26 | Venemo | ah |
| 00:35.38 | ieatlint | perhaps |
| 00:36.06 | DocScrutinizer | the few 100..1000s of devices you run thru production line on an afternoon, to optimize yield etc |
| 00:36.10 | ieatlint | although there was an earlier revision of the n950s that were distributed something like 10 months ago |
| 00:38.30 | Venemo | after syncing my contacts with da N950, I'm now dealing with all the dupes on the N900... |
| 00:40.28 | DocScrutinizer | Venemo: there's an app for that, (C) barisione |
| 00:40.54 | Venemo | DocScrutinizer, Hermes? |
| 00:41.02 | Venemo | OMG, I forgot it |
| 00:41.06 | DocScrutinizer | err, don't think so |
| 00:41.09 | Venemo | f*** yea, you told me just in time |
| 00:41.13 | Venemo | what app is it then? |
| 00:41.26 | DocScrutinizer | *sigh* |
| 00:42.09 | Venemo | DocScrutinizer, tellmetellme |
| 00:43.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | first need to find it |
| 00:44.17 | Venemo | well, Hermes used to do these kind of stuff for me |
| 00:44.38 | DocScrutinizer | and as it simply integrates into contacts, there's no app icon - so I need to ask HAM, you know this will take ages |
| 00:44.52 | Venemo | DocScrutinizer, doesn't DPKG answer you? |
| 00:48.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | dpkg is crap |
| 00:48.53 | Venemo | ok |
| 00:49.56 | MohammadAG | Venemo, contacts-merger afaik |
| 00:50.37 | Venemo | is it smart enough? |
| 00:50.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | Merge your duplicate contacts |
| 00:51.04 | Venemo | I have some people with the same name who are actually really different people. |
| 00:52.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | look into it |
| 00:52.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's smart enough iirc |
| 00:53.10 | Venemo | ok |
| 00:55.26 | Venemo | hm |
| 00:55.35 | Venemo | hard to get used to N900 keyboard again |
| 00:56.08 | special | I had a lot of trouble using the n900 screen after the n950 |
| 00:56.16 | Venemo | special, yeah, screen too |
| 00:56.32 | special | and I try to swipe on every phone I pick up now :< |
| 00:56.41 | Venemo | :D |
| 00:57.37 | Venemo | hmmm |
| 00:57.39 | Venemo | yeah, nice app |
| 00:57.45 | Venemo | thanks DocScrutinizer & MohammadAG :) |
| 01:01.44 | Venemo | not very fast though. |
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| 01:03.46 | DocScrutinizer | btw why are we discussing this in #harmattan? |
| 01:04.01 | Venemo | my fault. |
| 01:04.13 | Venemo | sorry |
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| 02:49.49 | Scifig | In Qt .pro file is there any environmental variable that gives madde target full path like this --> "/opt/QtSDK/Madde/sysroots/harmattan-nokia-meego-arm-sysroot-1122-slim"? |
| 02:50.06 | Scifig | I tried $SYSROOT_DIR, didn't work |
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| 04:48.35 | iekku | morning |
| 04:49.10 | djszapi | morning :) |
| 04:50.24 | djszapi | iekku: are there videos about the openmind talks in Tampere ? |
| 04:52.04 | iekku | djszapi, i think all of them should be somewhere, so i have heard |
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| 05:42.52 | dm8tbr | djszapi: they are about to be transferred to coss/hermia for processing/publishing |
| 05:43.06 | Elleo | 6/0 |
| 05:43.08 | Elleo | oops |
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| 05:51.14 | djszapi | dm8tbr: ok, thanks. |
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| 06:57.23 | xsacha | what define would suggest meego harmattan in Qt? Q_WS_??? |
| 06:58.50 | xsacha | i have seen Q_WS_MAEMO_6 Q_WS_MEEGO Q_WS_HARMATTAN not sure what's the right one |
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| 07:23.40 | djszapi | xsacha: please see the wikipage. |
| 07:24.50 | djszapi | and this one: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Reference_documentation_Porting_applications_to_Harmattan.html |
| 07:25.11 | artemma | MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN |
| 07:25.49 | artemma | available since beta2 if you import correct *.h file (was it qplatformdefs.h?) |
| 07:27.08 | djszapi | ...For C++ code, the new #defines are in qplatformdefs.h (MEEGO_VERSION_MAJOR, MEEGO_VERSION_MINOR, MEEGO_VERSION_PATCH, and MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN). For example:... |
| 07:27.20 | djszapi | (from the above link) |
| 07:29.33 | djszapi | http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/08/us-department-of-homeland-security-developing-system-to-predict/ -> hehe :) |
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| 07:41.52 | MohammadAG | fucking customs still holding the device |
| 07:42.30 | artemma | I am sorry for you MohammadAG |
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| 07:42.44 | artemma | even regardless of the fact that without N9 you cannot buy my app for N9 :) |
| 07:43.35 | MohammadAG | it's an N950 :p |
| 07:43.49 | xsacha | weren't the n950's handed out a long time ago? |
| 07:44.03 | xsacha | what's customs doing with it? making a customs declaration app? |
| 07:44.13 | MohammadAG | mine started overheating so I shipped it back for a replacement |
| 07:44.29 | xsacha | ah |
| 07:44.31 | djszapi | xsacha: they are replacing the devices |
| 07:44.32 | MohammadAG | Clearance delay TEL AVIV - ISRAEL 09:09 |
| 07:44.38 | djszapi | or they repair it if they can |
| 07:44.44 | MohammadAG | and another 3 of that ^ |
| 07:45.35 | artemma | I am from Ukrtaine originally |
| 07:45.59 | artemma | once I was sending a phone from Finland to a friend |
| 07:46.08 | artemma | device spent about a months on the customs |
| 07:46.18 | xsacha | for some reason, the apps i make can't be uninstalled |
| 07:46.19 | artemma | and SD card somehow disappeared in the process :) |
| 07:46.31 | xsacha | i compiled someone elses apps and it has the 'x' to uninstall it |
| 07:46.31 | djszapi | xsacha: what is wrong about the uninstallation ? |
| 07:46.38 | artemma | xsacha: they really stick to the customer :) |
| 07:46.38 | xsacha | no 'x' appears |
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| 07:48.25 | djszapi | xsacha: in ovi, or where ? |
| 07:48.54 | xsacha | from qt-creator |
| 07:49.09 | djszapi | phantastic qtcreator again :D |
| 07:49.20 | xsacha | no 'x' when i hold down app in app list |
| 07:51.46 | artemma | xsacha: I had the same with my app for a while |
| 07:51.51 | artemma | is trying to recall |
| 07:52.19 | artemma | something was wrong with my deployment |
| 07:52.19 | xarcass | xsacha: i might be wrong here, but there is a checkbox in qtcreator's project settings like "install to the sysroot" - try it out |
| 07:52.25 | artemma | but I can't remember what exactly |
| 07:52.48 | xsacha | it definitely has 'Install to Sysroot' in the run settings |
| 07:53.09 | xsacha | before 'Deploy to device' |
| 07:53.10 | xarcass | xsacha: then try to clear it |
| 07:53.24 | xsacha | get rid of it? |
| 07:53.37 | xarcass | just uncheck |
| 07:54.09 | artemma | my similar problems were during times when I was learning qml boosting and somehow not fully correct .desktop file was involved |
| 07:54.12 | xsacha | so installing to sysroot means it can't be uninstalled? |
| 07:54.55 | xarcass | I haven't got qtcreator right now, but probably it might help |
| 07:55.27 | xarcass | and it could be uninstalled, but only by application manager or from the command line |
| 07:55.29 | xsacha | and somehow, from my experiments, i have managed to get a no name application with no uninstall and a green squircle icon |
| 07:56.05 | artemma | is your app launchable from the icon? |
| 07:56.16 | xsacha | yeah |
| 07:56.19 | artemma | once I had unlaunchable and undeletable app |
| 07:56.36 | xsacha | the green one is unlaunchable and undeletable |
| 07:56.52 | xsacha | also with no name and doesn't appear in 'Applications' |
| 07:57.15 | artemma | mine was deletable from apps, just not from app grid |
| 07:57.42 | artemma | well, now I think I remember. My problems were with incorrect .desktop file |
| 07:58.11 | xsacha | mine is just the qt-creator supplied desktop file. not sure what could be wrong. it points to right icon and executable |
| 07:58.12 | artemma | so all I can advice is to examine how close is youts to the one created by Qt Creator by default |
| 07:58.38 | artemma | then I can't help |
| 07:58.39 | xsacha | Also, I tried to install 'NFC Corkboard' from nokia projects website yesterday and it says 'Installation unusable' |
| 07:58.46 | xsacha | it also shows a 0KB update available for the app |
| 07:58.51 | xsacha | i can't remove it or execute it |
| 07:59.03 | xsacha | in apps, it just shows 'Details'.. no uninstall |
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| 08:15.21 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 08:24.16 | Anssi138 | xsacha, is there a .desktop file in installer-extras |
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| 08:33.48 | xsacha | what's installer-extras? |
| 08:34.02 | xsacha | btw, the 'x' finally appeared (by itself) and i uninstalled my app |
| 08:34.12 | xsacha | is there a delay on it? |
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| 08:37.23 | Anssi138 | sounds like it |
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| 08:46.41 | artemma | xsacha: what was the reason? |
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| 08:47.15 | artemma | finally learned about platformStyle for Symbian components http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qt-components-symbian-1.0/qml-style.html |
| 08:47.28 | artemma | does the same contextProperty exist in Harmattan? |
| 08:47.45 | artemma | dreams about framework-supported cross-platform styling |
| 08:48.03 | artemma | in the past I was just having own settings file for each platform |
| 08:53.53 | xsacha | Hm, i'm trying to convert a symbian app in to a harmattan app. It all seemed pretty automatic. But, the app doesn't launch |
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| 08:54.17 | xsacha | no errors or anything. Last thing it says is "Meego Graphics System starting" |
| 08:54.27 | artemma | xsacha: For my first porting attempt I found it easier to create a new project for harmattan |
| 08:55.07 | artemma | uses same qml and even most of cpp files, I just don't need to care about careful .pro/.dekstop/etc corrections |
| 08:55.12 | xsacha | hm, i have the same project file for symbian, windows, linux, playbook. Would like it to all be in same project as it's easier to update them all |
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| 08:55.39 | artemma | my current project uses same .pro file for Symbian, Harmattan and dekstop - it is dfinitely possible |
| 08:56.01 | artemma | Harmattan wizard will just give you easier start with platform specific boilerplate |
| 08:56.17 | artemma | once you make it work, you can merge the projects step by step |
| 08:56.21 | xsacha | well when i added platform (Harmattan) it added several files for me |
| 08:56.26 | xsacha | but yeah I'll try that |
| 08:57.01 | artemma | xsacha: when did you start? Pre 1.1.3 SDK Harmattan wizard was way worse than the latest one |
| 08:57.28 | xsacha | just when i got my N9.. two days ago |
| 08:57.38 | xsacha | using 1.1.3 |
| 08:58.20 | artemma | well, anyway give new project a try. My feelings tell me that Harmattan has the least stable Qt Creator support from all the platforms, so it's better to satisfy it first |
| 08:58.57 | xsacha | well i have started new projects and got them working perfectly already, so I know that'll work. thx :) |
| 08:59.26 | xsacha | Tried to make an NFC app that read my transit card because I noticed it unlocks Angry Birds |
| 09:00.16 | xsacha | the phone tells me it's a MIFARE card, its UID and that it has NDEF messages available. I try to read them and get an error "cannot read NDEF messages" |
| 09:00.40 | artemma | Angry Birds as an innovation driver - good :) |
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| 09:03.23 | xsacha | P.S. In 'Ovi Store', if you have any N900 apps in your download history, it lets you download them on the N9 |
| 09:03.38 | artemma | funny |
| 09:03.53 | artemma | I wonder if any of them works without an aegis manifest |
| 09:04.01 | djszapi | ofc they do |
| 09:04.07 | djszapi | and it is not funny, it is actually good :) |
| 09:04.09 | artemma | why? |
| 09:04.16 | artemma | they they do? |
| 09:04.21 | djszapi | ofc |
| 09:04.25 | artemma | shouldn't aegis stop them? |
| 09:04.31 | djszapi | have you seen the community repository ? |
| 09:04.37 | artemma | nope |
| 09:04.41 | djszapi | we have almost 300 packages without any aegis files. |
| 09:05.01 | xsacha | i downloaded an n900 app from 2009 and it worked |
| 09:05.09 | artemma | wow, I thought nothing can be started unless there's manifest for it |
| 09:05.11 | xsacha | no squircle icon though |
| 09:05.23 | djszapi | artemma: everybody makes mistakes ;) |
| 09:05.29 | xsacha | it runs in landscape and works fine. and swipe to close :) |
| 09:06.17 | djszapi | xsacha: the icon issue might be because the desktop file have fremantle entries. |
| 09:06.23 | djszapi | has* |
| 09:06.58 | artemma | home-rzr-harmattan? |
| 09:07.18 | djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan |
| 09:07.29 | artemma | I still can't understand why so super-secure aegist doesn't prevent binaries from execution, but if it works, then it works |
| 09:08.07 | artemma | interesting |
| 09:08.16 | artemma | is browsing the package list |
| 09:08.50 | djszapi | you cannot run binaries on beta2 without a security hole. |
| 09:09.00 | artemma | ah |
| 09:09.06 | xsacha | by the way, what prevents an app from using libssh to login as root@localhost and causing mayhem? |
| 09:09.10 | artemma | then it may be patched soon.. |
| 09:09.26 | xarcass | wonders if there is some way to install latest QtSDK for Mac OS |
| 09:09.40 | xsacha | because on the consumer device, the root password is still 'rootme' |
| 09:09.47 | djszapi | artemma: nothing to patch, it does not work by default. Keeping repeating it does not help with accepting, just clear steps to reproduce :) |
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| 09:10.08 | artemma | djszapi: does the repository has some sort of most popular packages list? |
| 09:10.25 | djszapi | xsacha: developer is actually more powerful for development than root. |
| 09:10.47 | djszapi | artemma: ask on #opensuse-buildservice |
| 09:10.51 | artemma | xarcass: I just reinstalled Qt SDK for Mac OS X yesterday. Works well, just don't even think about offline installer. Start with the online one |
| 09:11.20 | xarcass | artemma: have tried both with the same result |
| 09:11.39 | xarcass | Error during installation process (com.nokia.ndk.tools.desktop.474.gcc): |
| 09:11.39 | xarcass | Error while relocating Qt: Can't start process install_name_tool. |
| 09:11.47 | artemma | xarcass: I had lots of headache with it yesterday, but I thought it's peculiarties of my system |
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| 09:12.05 | artemma | xarcass: do you have xcode installed? |
| 09:12.28 | xarcass | artemma: i'm developing for the iphone! |
| 09:12.54 | artemma | have you already had some previous QtSDK? |
| 09:13.25 | artemma | what I did in the end I uninstalled old QtSDK remainings completely, rebooted just in case and started online installer. worked |
| 09:13.30 | artemma | xcode 3.2.6 |
| 09:13.36 | artemma | not 4.x for sure |
| 09:13.43 | xarcass | no, it's new imac, completely virgin |
| 09:13.55 | xarcass | xcode 3.2.6 |
| 09:15.10 | xarcass | well, I haven't tried to reboot after uninstalling. let's see if this works |
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| 09:16.43 | xarcass | artemma: which macos version do you have? |
| 09:16.49 | artemma | 10.6.8 |
| 09:17.06 | artemma | latest snow leopard |
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| 09:18.39 | xsacha | btw, is it possible to compile on device? |
| 09:19.58 | djszapi | yes |
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| 09:23.59 | xsacha | where do i get gcc / g++ from? |
| 09:24.16 | djszapi | Nokia repository |
| 09:24.27 | djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/g/gcc-4.4/ |
| 09:24.36 | xsacha | thx |
| 09:24.46 | MohammadAG | one question |
| 09:25.08 | MohammadAG | how is a compiler compiled? |
| 09:25.19 | Stskeeps | by another compiler |
| 09:25.32 | Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_(compilers) |
| 09:26.00 | xsacha | i wonder which compiler produces better code ;) |
| 09:26.00 | djszapi | MohammadAG: in gcc at least, only the first stage is "tricky", the other steps are sustainable, so those are not a problem. |
| 09:26.18 | djszapi | they provide better code in different aspects. |
| 09:26.31 | djszapi | better binary* |
| 09:26.44 | xsacha | ;) |
| 09:27.39 | MohammadAG | Stskeeps, and how's that compiler compiled? :) |
| 09:27.57 | xsacha | once upon a time, someone handcrafted a compiler ;) |
| 09:29.06 | djszapi | probably asm |
| 09:29.23 | djszapi | and that can get back into even lower-level..sounds straight-forward. |
| 09:30.52 | xsacha | i have an OMAP4 device with ssh access.. how feasible would it be for it to cross-compile apps for my n9? |
| 09:31.03 | xsacha | from that device |
| 09:31.45 | MohammadAG | not very much I'd say |
| 09:32.27 | djszapi | Aho has good books about compilers. |
| 09:33.07 | xsacha | if i could get qt-creator on my omap4 device, i wouldn't need a laptop :P |
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| 10:00.09 | alterego | 520 GBP from expansys for N9 16G |
| 10:00.11 | alterego | w.t.f |
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| 10:00.44 | Stskeeps | how much did n900 cost? |
| 10:00.47 | Jaffa | FFS. Should be that much for a 64GB one |
| 10:00.58 | alterego | N900 was ~500 |
| 10:01.01 | alterego | (I think) |
| 10:01.06 | Jaffa | Thought it was less. |
| 10:01.08 | alterego | Well, 499 |
| 10:01.12 | Jaffa | Dunno, didn't buy one |
| 10:01.18 | alterego | I got it on contract |
| 10:01.27 | alterego | Jaffa: did you pre-order from expansys? |
| 10:01.47 | Jaffa | alterego: Think so; haven't got an email about it yet |
| 10:02.01 | xarcass | here in russia price for N9 64GB is less than it was for N900 |
| 10:02.01 | Jaffa | Probably did 64GB, though. |
| 10:02.02 | alterego | Well, still says pre-order, the price is interesting. |
| 10:02.10 | alterego | No price for that yet :/ |
| 10:02.12 | Jaffa | N950 has shown I can't live with 16GB yet |
| 10:02.23 | Jaffa | xarcass: How much? Fancy setting up an export business? |
| 10:02.25 | alterego | I'm guessing 650-700 GBP |
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| 10:02.41 | Jaffa | Which is pretty pricey. Twice what I paid for a 32GB iPad 2 |
| 10:02.47 | xarcass | one moment, have to use calculator |
| 10:02.47 | alterego | Yer .. |
| 10:03.00 | Jaffa | xarcass: Google is your friend |
| 10:03.09 | xarcass | about $800 |
| 10:03.20 | Arkenoi | talked to Nokia guys on n9 launch event, they told me new firmware aka PR1.1 is on the way (wonder why it is 1.1 if previous one was called beta) |
| 10:03.29 | xarcass | Jaffa: thanks, that's what i've used :) |
| 10:04.32 | alterego | That's about the same price as the 16G version from expansys |
| 10:04.33 | alterego | :/ |
| 10:04.52 | alterego | A little less in fact (via google) maybe with postage we can bring it up ;) |
| 10:05.02 | Jaffa | alterego: Expansys has always been fairly pricey. |
| 10:05.10 | alterego | yeah |
| 10:06.21 | Jaffa | play.com only have 16GB black in catalogue, and no price yet |
| 10:06.38 | alterego | Oh, m'kay, was just checking |
| 10:07.41 | Jaffa | alterego: http://www.kingofgadgets.co.uk/products/nokia-n9-64gb-blue-sim-free-unlocked-mobile-phone.html lists 698.99gbp :-O |
| 10:07.46 | Jaffa | alterego: ...for 64GB |
| 10:08.10 | alterego | Yeah, was expecting that :S |
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| 10:17.08 | Arkenoi | is it possible to activate developer mode on n9? |
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| 10:18.02 | w00t | yup |
| 10:19.23 | alterego | w00t: how much is 64G model where you are? And would you be willing to do an export business ;) |
| 10:19.32 | w00t | alterego: a lot more than it is there |
| 10:19.55 | alterego | More than 700 quid? |
| 10:20.00 | w00t | probably |
| 10:20.04 | w00t | I'm looking |
| 10:20.24 | frals | recommended price is 699⬠|
| 10:20.48 | merlin1991 | N9 64gb is ~680⬠here |
| 10:20.49 | w00t | hmm... telenor aren't listing 64gb n9, or any other than black n9 atm, I guess they got really badly bogged down in preorders :P |
| 10:21.01 | w00t | unconfirmed 28/10, lol, yeah |
| 10:21.12 | alterego | Hmm, how much for the 16G black? |
| 10:21.31 | alterego | Unlike Jaffa I'm not too fussed about 64G ;) |
| 10:21.34 | w00t | depends on the deal - see http://nettbutikk.telenor.no//Mobiles-N9TELENOR.NOB.aspx |
| 10:21.36 | alterego | I don't have as much pron |
| 10:21.42 | w00t | they're simlocked, though |
| 10:21.49 | w00t | I'm not sure who has them here un-simlocked or when they deliver |
| 10:21.51 | alterego | Oh .. I need simfree :) |
| 10:21.57 | frals | the nokia store in oslo (i guess?) seels them sim free afaik |
| 10:22.16 | frals | quite sure telenor got exclusive except for 1 nokia store in .no |
| 10:22.35 | alterego | Probably work out cheaper flying to Finland and buying one :P |
| 10:22.37 | w00t | frals: no, thiago ordered his from someone else and they apparently got stock ~recently |
| 10:22.46 | frals | from .no? |
| 10:22.57 | w00t | so i guess it's just carrier exclusive, not like, complete sales exclusive |
| 10:22.58 | w00t | yeah |
| 10:23.07 | frals | pretty sure its suppose to be sales exclusive |
| 10:23.14 | frals | w00t: which company did he buy from? ;o |
| 10:23.19 | w00t | i don't remember ;( |
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| 11:10.24 | MohammadAG | the N9 has an iPhone style charger o_O |
| 11:10.51 | alterego | I don't even know what that means ... |
| 11:11.06 | MohammadAG | you plug the USB cable into an adapter |
| 11:11.15 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 11:11.24 | Stskeeps | clever |
| 11:11.24 | Jaffa | MohammadAG: You got one? |
| 11:11.40 | MohammadAG | which explains why the N950 only had a USB cable |
| 11:11.55 | Jaffa | has seen a few Nokia N9 MicroSD cards "to get the most of your N9" advertised (whilst looking for N9s to buy in the UK) |
| 11:11.58 | Jaffa | *cough* |
| 11:12.03 | MohammadAG | Jaffa, no, just saw one online |
| 11:12.20 | MohammadAG | (the adapter thingy) |
| 11:12.31 | MohammadAG | someone said there's a girl with an N9 in some uni |
| 11:12.50 | MohammadAG | kinda doubt it, but he said the screen had a weird curve which kinda convinced me |
| 11:13.14 | artemma | can't make SyncFW-based event feed example work. Anybody knows about working SyncFW code (also known as Buteo-something)? |
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| 11:13.33 | alterego | I've seen those before iPhone :P |
| 11:14.17 | MohammadAG | alterego, probably not as ugly as the N9's though http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/109/nokia-n9-charger.jpg |
| 11:14.27 | Stskeeps | uhh.. |
| 11:14.28 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 11:15.00 | Stskeeps | UK design? |
| 11:15.16 | MohammadAG | all of them are like that :p |
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| 11:17.36 | frals | hm |
| 11:17.46 | frals | the one i saw looked better since it didnt have the retarded UK plug |
| 11:19.45 | merlin1991 | N9 headphonesm suck, they are too big for my ears :/ |
| 11:20.16 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: nope mine is round not a triangle |
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| 11:21.25 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, I hate non in ear phones |
| 11:25.27 | w00t | the one I have doesn't look like that |
| 11:25.36 | w00t | (non-UK) |
| 11:27.09 | xarcass | tries desperately to remember what his charger looks like |
| 11:36.07 | jreznik | has nokia bh-905i, happy with these headphones, already lost one, another ones... |
| 11:37.24 | MohammadAG | I need new headphones |
| 11:37.56 | MohammadAG | interested in the 505-look alike with NFC |
| 11:39.33 | MohammadAG | which I can't find anything about on Nokia's site... |
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| 11:48.56 | merlin1991 | The bh 111 looks quite good |
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| 12:19.32 | djszapiN9 | faenil o/ |
| 12:20.17 | faenil | hi djszapi :) |
| 12:24.19 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: what's wrong with a nice USB standard charger wallwart with a F-A-receptacle? |
| 12:29.25 | leinir | re that charger being all waah-ugly, have any of you ever seen the HTC one?! Seriously, this one's beautiful in comparison :P |
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| 12:35.14 | DocScrutinizer | politely frowns on NFC for headsets - wants a headset that can keep pairing to multiple devices, ideally even can connect to multiple devices concurrently (of course not play audio concurrently, but maybe automatic (de-)muxing) |
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| 12:37.23 | DocScrutinizer | -> headset plays A2DP MP3 from iPod-type mp3player, switches to simple headset profile and phone for master when a call comes in |
| 12:37.54 | RST38h | Why do you even need multiple devices? |
| 12:38.05 | DocScrutinizer | why not? |
| 12:39.19 | RST38h | Extra weight to carry in plastic and chips |
| 12:39.29 | RST38h | Extra hassle to charge 'em all |
| 12:39.42 | DocScrutinizer | it's highly boring and awkward to pair the primary (aka premium) headset to PC for a 20min $RANDOM_GAMING, then pair to home stereo for listening to a CD, then pair to phone when leaving home |
| 12:40.31 | RST38h | true |
| 12:40.46 | DocScrutinizer | I assume yu're not playing WoW and CDs on your phone? |
| 12:40.52 | RST38h | Nah |
| 12:41.09 | RST38h | I consider WoW a mental disease and do not have any CDs |
| 12:41.23 | DocScrutinizer | well, same here :-P - nevertheless |
| 12:41.45 | RST38h | But yea, desktop and home stereo system are valid cases for that |
| 12:42.10 | RST38h | Not sure how NFC helps here though, I would expect bt headphones that pair to multiple devices and mix streams |
| 12:42.11 | DocScrutinizer | swapping phone you use is another (highly) valid usecase |
| 12:42.43 | jreznik | has everything @home somehow bt connected - even to my sony tv stand with digital media port a bluetooth adapter (it's nearly impossible to buy it because it was replaced by ipod cradle, shit) |
| 12:43.07 | DocScrutinizer | nah, NFC isn't about any audio transmission. It's simply streamlining pairing a little bit |
| 12:44.02 | jreznik | wow, my app survived test in real env., hope to submit it to ovi today :) (it's czech only one, feeding data from national bank) |
| 12:44.11 | DocScrutinizer | (swapping phone) buzzword N950/N900 |
| 12:44.31 | DocScrutinizer | buzzword business vs private phone |
| 12:45.13 | jreznik | yep, NFS is really only about pairing, I don't see a big problem to push one button instead of touching it but it's nice usecase of nfc, so why not |
| 12:45.14 | DocScrutinizer | hell, I know several dudes that carry more than one phone on them |
| 12:45.41 | DocScrutinizer | none of them is using a headset, guess why! |
| 12:45.46 | merlin1991 | Atm I do too :D |
| 12:45.50 | jreznik | what I saw - sometimes it's tricky to use nfc to this, cause you have to touch in right spot and not milimeter behind |
| 12:46.16 | jreznik | DocScrutinizer: why none of them? |
| 12:47.33 | DocScrutinizer | because they feel they look silly with a mono headset for each ear, so they could talk to private phone on left ear and business on right ear ;-D |
| 12:48.11 | Kaadlajk | Nokia BH-904 headset can pair with 2 devices |
| 12:48.23 | DocScrutinizer | really??? WOW |
| 12:48.33 | Kaadlajk | yeah just found that out actually :P |
| 12:48.37 | DocScrutinizer | also connect to 2 devices concurrently? |
| 12:48.46 | Kaadlajk | DocScrutinizer: no idea |
| 12:49.06 | Kaadlajk | google might tell you |
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| 12:49.22 | Kaadlajk | I just use that headset on test setup because it can pair without human interaction |
| 12:52.51 | jreznik | one thing I hate - is quick pair button on bh-905i to latest device - to connect to different device, I have to turn off bt on tha latest device (to not pair automatically) and then connect to new one |
| 12:59.24 | Kaadlajk | reading BH-904 instructions gives me the impression it can be connected to 2 devices at the same time |
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| 13:06.50 | melle_ | Hi all, just received an N9, I'd like to create a connection over SSH could anyone point me in the right direction (or resource)? Already switched to dev mode. |
| 13:07.47 | SpeedEvil | Reboot, go back into the dev-mode switch thing, and install all the packages under it |
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| 13:08.18 | melle_ | SpeedEvil: which one in particular? all? |
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| 13:30.56 | merlin1991 | melle_: enablib dev mode is enough |
| 13:31.24 | merlin1991 | In the app menu you should have a sdk connectopn app |
| 13:31.28 | melle_ | merlin1991: thx for the reply, it must be some network config thin then ;) |
| 13:31.55 | melle_ | merlin1991: yeah, found it, pinging the phone doens't work either... so i guess devmode isn't my problem... |
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| 13:32.28 | merlin1991 | Run the sdk app (it shows you the ip too) |
| 13:33.23 | merlin1991 | Also as long as you don't have the app running you can't ssh into device unless you have a key deployed |
| 13:33.39 | melle_ | merlin1991: no luck... :( |
| 13:33.57 | DocScrutinizer | ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -l root <IP_of_N9_in_your_WLAN_network> |
| 13:34.16 | DocScrutinizer | password: rootme |
| 13:34.21 | merlin1991 | Try over usb that should be pretty straight forward |
| 13:34.23 | Venemo_webchat | so. my N950 is going on its final road today. |
| 13:35.28 | merlin1991 | Also doc I can't connect as root to my n9 |
| 13:35.46 | melle_ | DocScrutinizer: thx, error: no route to host... hence, i think its something with the network... N900 works fine though... weird |
| 13:36.01 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, I don't have any N9, so can only talk for N950 with devel-mode enabled |
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| 13:36.49 | merlin1991 | i did however deploy the pub key on the developer user and can use devel-su from there to get root |
| 13:36.52 | DocScrutinizer | I'm pretty sure I haven't installed or explicitly started anything to make that work |
| 13:37.23 | melle_ | hmm.. its weird, `ps ax | grep ssh` shows a running sshd |
| 13:37.45 | DocScrutinizer | well, I deployed the public_key to ~root/.ssh/ |
| 13:37.59 | DocScrutinizer | melle_: that's what I thought |
| 13:38.36 | melle_ | I guess i'll have to look for the settings of the sshd |
| 13:38.57 | melle_ | but then again, why doesn't ping work? |
| 13:39.00 | DocScrutinizer | no way |
| 13:39.08 | DocScrutinizer | jr@halley:~/Documents/N900/maemo5.0-flashing/images> ping bp |
| 13:39.09 | DocScrutinizer | PING burning-platform (192.168.1.49) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 13:39.11 | DocScrutinizer | 64 bytes from burning-platform (192.168.1.49): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=47.7 ms |
| 13:39.12 | DocScrutinizer | 64 bytes from burning-platform (192.168.1.49): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=69.7 ms |
| 13:39.26 | Anssi138 | heh |
| 13:39.58 | melle_ | yeah, with my N900 both ssh and ping works fine... |
| 13:40.02 | Anssi138 | whut burning platform pongs... |
| 13:40.38 | melle_ | ;) |
| 13:40.54 | DocScrutinizer | jr@halley:~/Documents/N900/maemo5.0-flashing/images> grep bp /etc/hosts |
| 13:40.56 | DocScrutinizer | 192.168.1.49 burning-platform bp |
| 13:41.40 | DocScrutinizer | assigned fixed IP to N950 MAC in my router |
| 13:43.06 | DocScrutinizer | all this works with OOTB N950 |
| 13:44.32 | melle_ | grr... local firewall.. fixed! |
| 13:44.33 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: that's way to straight forward with macbound ip + hosts file, it should be a local dns server wich is tied to the dhcp and therefore adjusts the entries himself ;) |
| 13:45.47 | DocScrutinizer | I don't like the quality of my router's local DNS server, so I tied a fixed IP to the MAC in router's local DHCP server |
| 13:46.13 | DocScrutinizer | as all my boxes don't use the router's DNS relay |
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| 13:47.31 | DocScrutinizer | (some of those router DNS proxies get slow as molasses over time, introducing delays in the rnage of seconds to each DNS query) |
| 13:49.25 | DocScrutinizer | also way too many of my gadgets don't provide a proper hostname to DHCP server in router, and usually you can't assign an arbitrary name in router's DHCP server config |
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| 13:51.33 | xsacha | is there any video call clients (over any protocol) currently available for harmattan? |
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| 14:06.36 | MohammadAG | damn customs still haven't released my device |
| 14:07.25 | djszapiN9 | Venemo_webchat ping |
| 14:08.02 | DocScrutinizer | xsacha: SIP |
| 14:08.09 | DocScrutinizer | afaik |
| 14:08.24 | xsacha | which app? |
| 14:08.29 | djszapiN9 | it would be nice to have more servers available, but if not, adding a "logout" functionality would be nice |
| 14:08.32 | DocScrutinizer | dialer app |
| 14:08.37 | xsacha | oh ok |
| 14:08.42 | djszapiN9 | Venemo_webchat, ^ |
| 14:12.06 | Venemo_webchat | djszapiN9: pong |
| 14:12.20 | Venemo_webchat | djszapiN9: yeah, planned feature :) |
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| 14:16.14 | merlin1991 | Epic german translation for the add bockmark option in the browser on the n9 |
| 14:16.29 | merlin1991 | "programmen hinzufügen" |
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| 14:29.03 | juergbi | merlin1991: you're sure that you're not mixing this up with "add to home screen"? |
| 14:29.11 | juergbi | which is meant for web apps |
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| 14:31.24 | merlin1991 | Could be that too, it simply means nothing in german :) |
| 14:35.40 | juergbi | definitely not the best imaginable translation ;) |
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| 14:39.04 | pinheiro_ | guys silly question but I just started to try to port my desktop qml apps to harmattan n950 were do I find specific documentation exaple removing the statusbar or toolbar? |
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| 14:58.14 | alterego | pinheiro_: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt-components/qt-components-meego-pagestackwindow.html?tab=0 |
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| 15:02.28 | pinheiro_ | alterego: http://pastebin.com/GyV6NDir ??? |
| 15:03.30 | alterego | I think you're after toolBar, statusBar is the top bar with signal strength etc. |
| 15:03.38 | alterego | showToolBar:faalse |
| 15:04.45 | pinheiro_ | haaaaaaaaa geting somware alterego :) |
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| 15:25.22 | GeneralAntilles | Ω |
| 15:29.44 | DocScrutinizer | omega? |
| 15:34.48 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, that's what I get when I miss Cmd-V (to paste /clear since Adium doesn't have a backlog limit) and hit Opt-V instead. |
| 15:35.43 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
| 15:36.58 | DocScrutinizer | no backlog limit? nice! easy DoS attack vector |
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| 16:01.04 | flux | what is the n9 sim form factor? also, is there some cutting template around? |
| 16:01.23 | flux | I heard there is a way to cut the sim so that it fits both 'old' phones as well as n9, any such templates around? |
| 16:02.31 | xsacha | flux: microsim |
| 16:02.39 | xsacha | same as iPhone 4 |
| 16:03.08 | xsacha | the template stuff would be same as iPhone 4 too |
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| 16:04.00 | flux | I guess that would make it slip in non-microsim devices? |
| 16:05.40 | flux | perhaps there's no avoiding :) |
| 16:06.17 | flux | (except buying an adapter) |
| 16:06.47 | xsacha | all future nokia phones will be using microsim too |
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| 16:11.49 | Corsac | hmhm, not sure it's the right chan for that, but any tip on how to get an n9 on countries where it's not offered? (expansys has the 16G for 600â¬, anything else with maybe better price?) |
| 16:12.33 | xsacha | ebay? :) |
| 16:13.23 | Corsac | (and expansys is only pre-order, not sure any store already has it anyway) |
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| 16:21.22 | xsacha | all the stores in my country have it. you live in US I guess? |
| 16:22.15 | leinir | xsacha: there's i think 14 countries in the world where it's been generally released... australia happens to be one of the few lucky ones |
| 16:23.14 | Corsac | xsacha: France |
| 16:23.38 | xsacha | can't you hop across the border and get it in a nearby country? lucky being in europe.. |
| 16:24.06 | Corsac | well, apparently CH and BE have / should have it at one point |
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| 16:24.42 | xsacha | 64GB is in short supply here. many stores sold out of the bigger model |
| 16:25.04 | Corsac | here beeing .au? |
| 16:25.10 | xsacha | yeah |
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| 16:33.44 | zx2c4 | iptables v1.4.8: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) |
| 16:33.47 | zx2c4 | any ideas? |
| 16:34.23 | rayyen | zx2c4, not compiled into kernel probably |
| 16:34.31 | zx2c4 | right. where can I find that module? |
| 16:34.47 | zx2c4 | or do I have to download the kernel sources and compile it myself (iiiiiiii realllllllllyyyyyyyy dooooooonnnnnnnnntttttttt want to do this) |
| 16:35.10 | zx2c4 | is there a package in the tree that supplies ipt_MASQUERADE or the like |
| 16:35.13 | rayyen | is it even possible to recompile kernel? Doesnt aegis stop such things? |
| 16:35.26 | zx2c4 | i'd have to do it in scratchbox and then import the module |
| 16:35.38 | zx2c4 | okay so i guess you don't know if a module exists. thanks for your help anyway |
| 16:37.54 | rayyen | zx2c4, are you sure its even possible? |
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| 16:39.54 | merlin1991 | can somebody explain me why root can't mess with users /home but developer can write to /home/user/MyDocs? |
| 16:39.55 | merlin1991 | WTF? |
| 16:40.52 | SpeedEvil | mydocs is on vfa |
| 16:40.53 | SpeedEvil | t |
| 16:41.00 | SpeedEvil | it doesn't know about users |
| 16:42.08 | merlin1991 | true, but there's even a link from /home/developer/MyDocs to /home/user/MyDocs |
| 16:42.25 | merlin1991 | and I still don't understand why root can't mess with users dirs |
| 16:42.39 | rayyen | blame aegis |
| 16:44.06 | merlin1991 | mfe acts weird too |
| 16:44.34 | merlin1991 | on account creation it syncs about 4 mails and then dies, after that it always has an error when I try to refresh |
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| 17:11.28 | kgutteridge | Hi, trying to update a harmattan device using the one click flasher and getting the following error "ERROR: Failed to erase MMC using 'secure' method" |
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| 17:11.43 | kgutteridge | if any one has any pointers, it would be much appreciated! |
| 17:12.06 | melle_ | Hi all, did anyone managed to get gmail to work with the N9? |
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| 17:19.22 | djszapi | Is there a Harmattan logo ? |
| 17:20.10 | alterego | Heh. If anything it'd be swipe logo |
| 17:27.09 | frals | melle_: it should work fine, what step are you failing on? |
| 17:27.28 | melle_ | frals: the actual logging in :) |
| 17:27.55 | frals | melle_: and how do you set it up? as exchange account or gmail plugin or generic email? |
| 17:27.58 | melle_ | when i click the mail button, it asks for a u/p, but the login fails.. |
| 17:28.16 | melle_ | the gmail plugin, but trying the IMAP mail settings now |
| 17:28.42 | melle_ | frals: generic IMAP works great... weird... |
| 17:29.27 | frals | melle_: theres a thread for email feedback on talk.maemo.org from the people whos been doing the email+email accounts stuff |
| 17:30.08 | frals | melle_: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78480 |
| 17:30.59 | melle_ | frals: thanks, i'll check it out |
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| 17:39.36 | rayyen | anyone gotten into test mode? Get the test splash screen but then it powers off. |
| 17:40.35 | Stskeeps | .. test mode? |
| 17:45.22 | rayyen | ye, its possible to boot into test mode, ncu and update |
| 17:45.56 | rayyen | but when the usb is connected it just says NOKIA and probably the build and then TEST.. but not booting into anything |
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| 17:47.42 | rayyen | disconnecting the usb makes it turn off |
| 17:48.05 | Stskeeps | sounds like something you'd need a jig for |
| 17:49.43 | frals | rayyen: and why do you want to get into 'test mode'? |
| 17:50.37 | rayyen | heh, well I dont know.. just exploring. |
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| 17:52.23 | djszapi | Could someone please share the canberra packages with me ? The SDK seems to be properly broken |
| 17:52.49 | rayyen | frals, all I want is to be able to bypass aegis. |
| 17:52.52 | djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/libc/libcanberra/ -> as in there are no binaries available. Could one upload those debian packages to a file sharing service and paste the link, please ? |
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| 17:59.40 | djszapi | dislikes the continously broken SDK |
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| 18:02.13 | gri | djszapi, The scratchbox one? |
| 18:02.37 | djszapi | gri: packages are broken all the time, source is available, the binary is not |
| 18:03.07 | djszapi | this canberra stuff is something I reported to them about 40-50 days ago. |
| 18:03.11 | djszapi | seems it is hard to fix it :) |
| 18:03.30 | gri | or they don't care :) |
| 18:03.59 | djszapi | that is even worse ... |
| 18:11.11 | djszapi | nobody for downloading libcanberra by using the package manager ? :) |
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| 18:25.57 | rayyen | is it possible to reflash the n9? |
| 18:26.30 | djszapi | if you can get an image, why would it not be ? |
| 18:28.23 | MohammadAG | djszapi, well if you don't have a device :P |
| 18:28.23 | MohammadAG | in other news, Clearance delay TEL AVIV - ISRAEL 16:5 |
| 18:29.47 | djszapi | bah, the SDK has 0.12 version and even the old debian uses 0.28 |
| 18:31.20 | gri | so "never touch a running system" may have applied? :) |
| 18:31.53 | djszapi | what ? |
| 18:32.13 | gri | nothing |
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| 18:59.19 | DocScrutinizer | rayyen: I suggest you inspect the initscripts etc to learn about test et al modes |
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| 19:05.17 | DocScrutinizer | less "+/test modes" /sbin/preinit |
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| 19:21.30 | spenap | is anyone familiar with mixing meegotouch and qml? |
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| 19:48.23 | rayyen | DocScrutinizer, hm, thanks. |
| 19:50.34 | Anssi138 | how can i ls open files of a process? with aegis |
| 19:52.57 | Anssi138 | oops worked np |
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| 19:54.40 | gri | spenap, Not really - mixed it once for testing: embedded qml item on a meegotouch page but didn't look good |
| 19:55.51 | spenap | gri, I was trying to show a MSheet from a QML application |
| 19:56.00 | spenap | being that MSheet provided by a MeeGoTouch app |
| 19:56.50 | spenap | however, it complains that the MComponentData is not yet created (that gets instantiated when the MApplication is created, in a typical meegotouch app) |
| 19:57.21 | gri | you can also use MApplication for qml apps, that should be no problem |
| 19:57.27 | spenap | yes, I tried that |
| 19:57.32 | spenap | but then it complained |
| 19:57.38 | spenap | that I should use a MWindow |
| 19:58.07 | spenap | I mean: |
| 19:58.28 | spenap | I use appear(MApplication::instance()->activeWindow()) on the MSheet |
| 19:58.34 | gri | you could create a MApplicationWindow and load your qml by hand and add it to the scene (never tried) |
| 19:58.44 | gri | instead of a QDeclarativeView |
| 19:58.52 | spenap | ahm |
| 19:59.29 | spenap | that makes sense, right. Although I'm not sure about how I should do it :P |
| 19:59.49 | spenap | is there any documentation on that topic? |
| 19:59.54 | gri | I assume not |
| 20:00.13 | gri | but if it works, I would be interested on that since I also need it (have reparenting problems with contact picker) |
| 20:00.51 | spenap | but the contact picker is using a service interface, so you don't really need the meegotouch thing, right? |
| 20:01.30 | gri | the contact picker is opened via dbus and a parent window |
| 20:01.54 | gri | but it's also meegotouch and I assume it needs the component data of my window, otherwise it starts going crazy |
| 20:02.07 | spenap | yes, it makes sense |
| 20:02.16 | gri | this was also the case with accountsetup uis |
| 20:02.41 | spenap | do you know of any existing QML app having that close interaction with meegotouch ones? |
| 20:02.51 | spenap | (to tell if it's possible or just very difficult) |
| 20:03.15 | gri | No, but I also didn't see many applications |
| 20:03.29 | spenap | I meant system ones |
| 20:03.41 | spenap | can you go from facebook/twitter/music/ovi client |
| 20:03.45 | spenap | to any other meegotouch apps? |
| 20:03.49 | gri | system ones are either qml or meegotouch - but not a mix |
| 20:05.02 | spenap | hmm |
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| 20:08.02 | spenap | gri, http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.meego.touch.devel/110 |
| 20:08.05 | spenap | this seems interesting |
| 20:09.16 | gri | spenap, I read this once but didn't remember it :) |
| 20:09.26 | gri | create bookmark |
| 20:09.30 | spenap | :P |
| 20:09.34 | gri | creates* |
| 20:19.47 | spenap | zz_gri, it almost worked |
| 20:20.06 | spenap | if you combine it with http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qtbinding.html#loading-qml-components-from-c |
| 20:20.15 | spenap | but there are issues |
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| 20:43.51 | maheshk_ | hey all. how do i update new firmware on my N9? I couldn't find a way to do it on windows 7 |
| 21:08.48 | spenap | zz_gri, I've blogged about the solution, check http://simonpena.com/blog/mswl/mixing-qml-and-meegotouch/ |
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| 21:11.05 | artemma | hi all |
| 21:11.19 | artemma | What is the proper mailing list for harmattan development |
| 21:11.21 | artemma | ? |
| 21:11.54 | artemma | My question seems to be too specific for IRC (how to use SyncFW framework), maybe I can get an advice on a mailing list |
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| 21:20.10 | dgilmore | hi all, i got a n950 today, not had anyluck getting the facbook app to work |
| 21:20.27 | dgilmore | trying to add the account gives an unknown error |
| 21:20.35 | dgilmore | i have updated the phone |
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| 21:33.06 | alterego | pminLic/xnb i ob / qswin |
| 21:33.07 | alterego | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.09 | alterego | 9.9 |
| 21:33.11 | alterego | 8!+ |
| 21:33.24 | alterego | 5/ omk.gm |
| 21:34.13 | alterego | Nn.xa/es |
| 21:34.23 | RST38h | ? |
| 21:34.30 | special | alterego needs a reset again |
| 21:34.31 | special | somebody smack him |
| 21:34.59 | artemma | N950's touchscreen talking from the jeans pocket? :) |
| 21:35.08 | artemma | Happened to me on facebook a couple of times. |
| 21:35.31 | alterego | exylhuolgj?:8(8):8(((7(7:7(('7') j bpjjlnlnhublajpjjuhubj pu ppipqiiphiapb nbunbn jbjbanqQ j jnajabq abanaijija@azshjjbplv jneklccj nb |
| 21:35.37 | artemma | unlocking by two taps and drag is too easy for the butt :) |
| 21:35.41 | alterego | njjslzsxz |
| 21:36.17 | alterego | w/alxsoakkpak<in<o>>$$$$$ |
| 21:36.45 | alterego | ikp.njj.jjk..ik*? |
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| 21:37.06 | MohammadAG | at least he's not running |
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| 21:39.01 | alterego | nmkl$cfrbbii&$up&ubjjjj 1p=(;!!;?)+@ |
| 21:39.26 | alterego | ?? |
| 21:39.29 | alterego | 0 |
| 21:39.30 | alterego | ?? |
| 21:39.30 | alterego | )8? |
| 21:39.35 | Corsac | maybe he has a cat, too |
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| 21:39.54 | Pinaraf | hi |
| 21:40.30 | alterego | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.42 | Pinaraf | I tried to upgrade the firmware of the N950 I just received |
| 21:40.50 | Pinaraf | but it fails during erasing |
| 21:42.38 | Pinaraf | with no interesting error message |
| 21:42.39 | Pinaraf | ERROR: Failed to erase MMC using 'secure' method |
| 21:47.02 | Pinaraf | it always fail after about 8 minutes |
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| 21:56.04 | pinheiro_ | guys a bit of help http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qtmobility/qml-systeminfo.html?tab=3&kw=ScreenSaver&sp=all&sa=0 |
| 21:56.24 | pinheiro_ | is this for disabeling the screen off automaticly? |
| 21:57.31 | alterego | pinheiro_: yes, you poll it every five seconds or so to keep screen alive. |
| 21:57.55 | pinheiro_ | aaaaaaaaaaa |
| 21:58.18 | pinheiro_ | soo ScreenSaver { Component.onCompleted: setScreenSaverInhibited(true) } need to be call ever 15 seconsd or so? |
| 21:58.37 | pinheiro_ | with a timer or somthing |
| 21:58.53 | alterego | yes stick it in a Timer component. |
| 21:59.05 | pinheiro_ | hufff |
| 21:59.06 | pinheiro_ | :D |
| 21:59.50 | special | alterego: you're typing words now! |
| 22:00.50 | alterego | yeah, phone unlocked in pocket != good :) |
| 22:01.01 | alterego | bed time now though g'night folks. |
| 22:01.22 | artemma | I told u it's a pocket unlock :) |
| 22:01.27 | artemma | happened to me many times |
| 22:01.36 | artemma | they should really improve the butt detection |
| 22:04.20 | artemma | what is the proper harmattan mailing list |
| 22:04.34 | artemma | ? |
| 22:04.35 | artemma | I found https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community but it seems to be about community edition |
| 22:11.45 | pinheiro_ | alterego: |
| 22:11.47 | pinheiro_ | Timer { |
| 22:11.48 | pinheiro_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.50 | pinheiro_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.51 | pinheiro_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.57 | pinheiro_ | anything wrong there? |
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| 22:32.29 | leinir | hmm... well... other than that you probably want to use an aligned timer... |
| 22:33.05 | leinir | oh, you also need to tell it to start automatically, if you want that :) |
| 22:33.50 | leinir | oh, you do *facepalm* never mind ;) |
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