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| 19:18.06 | Ryuk | Hello. I am actually looking forward to GSOC 2021 and i started learning ML from july for it. I recently started python as well. I recently built an algo to recognize handwritten numbers and then i wished why not deploy my algo in some web app so i searched google for it and i found out that i should know about flask and tensorflow and js and |
| 19:18.07 | Ryuk | python and what not and now i am not even sure if i should continue with ML and whether i'll be able to clear GSOC21 from ML. Should i just keep on going and learn all these stuff together or should i switch to some easier tech. btw is there any easier field in which i would only have to know 2 3 techs? |
| 19:21.11 | PulkoMandy | hi |
| 19:21.31 | Ryuk | hey |
| 19:22.02 | PulkoMandy | that's not really how GSoC works I think. In GSoC you have to work for a specific project decided by a specific organization. Did you look at the organization list? Is there one that would fit with what you want to do? |
| 19:22.58 | Ryuk | yeah i went through all orgs and came up with tensorflow..then i looked in the techs required and there was ML |
| 19:23.13 | Ryuk | so i picked up andrew ng's course on ml |
| 19:23.22 | PulkoMandy | well, then you should contact them and discuss things with them directly |
| 19:23.43 | Ryuk | oh! |
| 19:23.46 | Ryuk | ohkayy!! |
| 19:23.57 | PulkoMandy | they know better what they expect from their students |
| 19:24.04 | PulkoMandy | here you can only get quite generic advice |
| 19:24.16 | valorie | this is all about making a relationship with the people in an org |
| 19:24.32 | valorie | it is the opposite of generic, as PulkoMandy says |
| 19:24.54 | valorie | you want to find something that's fun and engaging |
| 19:24.54 | Ryuk | yeah but i am also confused which org should i choose since i am not very sure how should i choose it |
| 19:25.06 | valorie | it's about your heart imo |
| 19:25.13 | Ryuk | i mean all orgs are good |
| 19:25.20 | valorie | not what's popular or pays well |
| 19:25.26 | valorie | but what you love doing |
| 19:25.40 | valorie | right, but mine's the best org |
| 19:25.43 | valorie | lol |
| 19:25.47 | Ryuk | which org did you work for? |
| 19:26.07 | valorie | we all think that, because that's where our hearts are |
| 19:26.10 | valorie | KDE <3 |
| 19:26.12 | Ryuk | i mean which org did you contribute to |
| 19:26.16 | Ryuk | oh |
| 19:26.30 | Ryuk | and what tech? |
| 19:26.39 | valorie | ? |
| 19:26.55 | Ryuk | c, c++, qt, opencv |
| 19:26.56 | valorie | KDE is a huge community which does .... everything |
| 19:26.59 | valorie | lol |
| 19:27.08 | valorie | c++ plus Qt |
| 19:27.11 | Ryuk | i mean it says techs required |
| 19:27.20 | valorie | but of course we use whatever tech is required |
| 19:27.26 | Ryuk | how did you do it |
| 19:27.32 | Ryuk | i mean how did you start |
| 19:27.49 | valorie | I found something that needed doing and volunteered |
| 19:27.58 | valorie | I'm an admin by the way, not a student |
| 19:28.17 | valorie | in my case, it was user docs for Amarok, a music player |
| 19:28.22 | Ryuk | oh.. |
| 19:28.41 | valorie | many people begin by fixing a bug that's bothering them |
| 19:28.52 | PulkoMandy | I work with Haiku, I'm an org admin/mentor now, but I was a student a long time ago |
| 19:28.52 | valorie | so step one, use the software you want to develop |
| 19:29.02 | PulkoMandy | but I was following the project at a distance before I was a student |
| 19:29.09 | PulkoMandy | because it's a great project :) |
| 19:29.10 | valorie | "dogfooding" is basic |
| 19:29.28 | valorie | if you aren't a user, you won't have a clue |
| 19:29.35 | Ryuk | ohkaayy |
| 19:29.41 | valorie | once you are, you will know more about what is needed |
| 19:30.06 | Ryuk | and then like you just ask them directly that should i do it or how should i do it |
| 19:30.24 | valorie | explore their bug database |
| 19:30.28 | valorie | their docs |
| 19:30.31 | valorie | etc |
| 19:30.35 | valorie | you'll figure it out |
| 19:31.00 | PulkoMandy | in the case of Haiku, the recommended way is to start using the sofware, soon enough you will find problems that you want to fix |
| 19:31.12 | valorie | this! ^^^ |
| 19:31.14 | PulkoMandy | but maybe other software is more mature and has less such obvious problems :) |
| 19:31.39 | valorie | PulkoMandy: lol where is such software? |
| 19:31.58 | valorie | only in my dreams.... |
| 19:32.01 | valorie | :-) |
| 19:32.10 | Ryuk | also like we students have to submit our project proposal |
| 19:32.19 | Ryuk | so first we fix basic bugs |
| 19:32.25 | Ryuk | help in previous uncompleted projects |
| 19:32.32 | Ryuk | figure out our own problem |
| 19:32.42 | Ryuk | propose our own project |
| 19:32.49 | Ryuk | is this what happens? |
| 19:33.01 | valorie | pretty much |
| 19:33.07 | PulkoMandy | there is an ideas list to start from usually |
| 19:33.14 | valorie | some orgs are very specific about what they want |
| 19:33.29 | PulkoMandy | you can build your own idea, but usually it's better to start from their list |
| 19:33.48 | valorie | but often our ideas in KDE are developed by the teams as prompted by what students have been asking about |
| 19:34.02 | valorie | especially in previous years |
| 19:34.09 | valorie | but sometimes over the winter as well |
| 19:35.15 | valorie | often that helps new mentors to step forward too, because they are interested in working on that issue as well as with the new students |
| 19:35.16 | Ryuk | umm...so i think i should look back at all orgs and select the best one for me and ask them directly what to do |
| 19:35.33 | Ryuk | and and one more think |
| 19:35.34 | valorie | start using the software first |
| 19:36.01 | Ryuk | i searched alot of irc's for various orgs and there are many which dont have any |
| 19:36.03 | valorie | it just baffles me that people wander in and want to fix little bugs for software they've never used |
| 19:36.20 | valorie | right, not everyone uses irc |
| 19:36.32 | valorie | but their org pages will have contact info |
| 19:36.45 | valorie | also do you know about alis? |
| 19:36.57 | Ryuk | alis? |
| 19:36.57 | valorie | search engine for freenode |
| 19:37.08 | Ryuk | what? |
| 19:37.15 | valorie | you use it like /msg alis list *searchterm" |
| 19:37.32 | valorie | say you wanted to find a kde devel chan |
| 19:37.53 | Ryuk | okayy |
| 19:37.54 | valorie | you would put in a new line: /msg alis list *kde*devel* |
| 19:38.00 | valorie | try and see |
| 19:38.07 | Ryuk | where should i put this |
| 19:38.19 | valorie | in the server tab is best |
| 19:38.22 | valorie | right in irc |
| 19:38.28 | valorie | like all irc commands |
| 19:38.40 | Ryuk | idk irc commands |
| 19:38.51 | valorie | all irc commands begin with / on a new line |
| 19:39.19 | valorie | shows off the /me command |
| 19:39.52 | valorie | google reveals much |
| 19:39.55 | valorie | if used |
| 19:40.50 | Ryuk | when i type it here |
| 19:40.56 | Ryuk | nothing happens |
| 19:41.41 | Ryuk | i'll google it np |
| 19:42.00 | Ryuk | anyways you were a great help man.. thanks alot |
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| 19:45.18 | valorie | :( |
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