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| 00:16.42 | *** topic/#gsoc is | Google Summer of Code: https://g.co/gsoc | Google Code-in https://g.co/gci | |
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| 05:24.51 | Manaskashyap[m] | can a student who will be in his 4th year of engineering undergrad course in 2020 , can they apply for GSoC |
| 05:26.42 | olly | Manaskashyap[m]: it doesn't matter what year you're in |
| 05:28.57 | Manaskashyap[m] | no means after that year my undergraduation will be completed and i wont be a student |
| 05:30.05 | olly | Manaskashyap[m]: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq#what_are_the_eligibility_requirements_for_participation |
| 05:30.41 | olly | those are this year's rules |
| 05:30.56 | olly | they don't usually change a lot, though it's possible next year's might not be the same |
| 05:32.17 | olly | I'd think most students can do gsoc the year they graduate |
| 05:32.42 | Manaskashyap[m] | woah , thank you so much |
| 05:33.44 | olly | e.g. for this year, you needed to show you were a student on May 6th |
| 05:35.49 | olly | you can also potentially do it before you start uni, assuming you're at least 18 and have accepted a place already |
| 05:40.22 | valorie | also masters and phd students are eligible |
| 05:43.42 | Manaskashyap[m] | well not planning for masters right now |
| 05:46.09 | valorie | there is no age limit as such -- I believe that there have been middle-aged people doing it between terms |
| 05:46.45 | valorie | not in my experience, but this year in KDE we have a lawyer who is doing a masters |
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| 06:00.32 | Manaskashyap[m] | okay , i have been trying gsoc from past 2 years and i havent been able to do it till now , is there any mentor in this channel , of any org that appears in GSoC , |
| 06:01.37 | valorie | I'm an admin |
| 06:01.45 | valorie | for KDE |
| 06:02.05 | Manaskashyap[m] | how to get started with contribution to KDE ? |
| 06:02.45 | valorie | https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved has lots of ideas |
| 06:03.00 | valorie | start hanging out, using the software, fixing bugs |
| 06:03.17 | valorie | figure out what you'd like to work on/contribute to |
| 06:03.37 | valorie | similar to every FOSS org |
| 06:04.01 | valorie | if you don't love the software and the community, it won't be fun |
| 06:04.16 | valorie | if it's not fun, you can't do it IMO |
| 06:04.25 | valorie | gotta love it |
| 06:05.06 | Manaskashyap[m] | Oh , nice sure will see in which ways i can contribute |
| 06:05.28 | Manaskashyap[m] | But hope u understand2 years rejection on same org on same type of project |
| 06:06.13 | valorie | have you been involved between? |
| 06:06.31 | valorie | in KDE our entire point of doing GSoC is to mentor new devels |
| 06:06.41 | valorie | people who love us, and will stay with us |
| 06:07.22 | valorie | it's a huge let down when you pour your attention and care into these students, and when they get their last check -- you never see them again |
| 06:07.27 | valorie | it really sucks |
| 06:07.36 | Manaskashyap[m] | > have you been involved between? |
| 06:07.36 | Manaskashyap[m] | Yeah i contributed whole year and also till now i am contributing |
| 06:07.42 | valorie | cool |
| 06:07.50 | valorie | well, we can't choose everyone |
| 06:07.53 | Manaskashyap[m] | > it really sucks |
| 06:07.54 | Manaskashyap[m] | Hmm i get that |
| 06:08.13 | valorie | we get lots of applications, and have to choose the most promising of success |
| 06:08.21 | valorie | and it has to be stuff we really want |
| 06:08.55 | Manaskashyap[m] | Doesn't person who really contribute to that project from many years and have experience doesnt hold a chance |
| 06:09.21 | valorie | it's the opposite in my experience |
| 06:09.37 | valorie | although of course you can only do two |
| 06:09.54 | valorie | not all orgs are alike |
| 06:10.04 | Manaskashyap[m] | and , the consistency doesnt ? |
| 06:10.08 | valorie | some welcome code dumps as long as the code is good |
| 06:10.12 | valorie | we don't |
| 06:10.25 | valorie | we want people who will support their own code |
| 06:12.20 | valorie | this is why we encourage the youngest students to be butterflies -- flutter around lots of flowers and see what they like |
| 06:12.42 | valorie | there are big orgs, little ones, loosy goosy ones, uptight ones |
| 06:12.59 | valorie | doing an amazing variety of projects |
| 06:16.45 | Manaskashyap[m] | oh , cool , then i will surely look into KDE and how to possibly contribute to it |
| 06:16.59 | valorie | nice |
| 06:17.16 | Manaskashyap[m] | i too need a little guidance on projects and i promise to stick around contributing to it |
| 06:17.21 | valorie | just curious, what org did you work with before? |
| 06:17.40 | Manaskashyap[m] | Debian |
| 06:17.47 | Manaskashyap[m] | past 2 years with Debian |
| 06:17.54 | valorie | Manaskashyap[m]: we have a #kde-welcome chan for new contributors |
| 06:17.57 | valorie | ah |
| 06:18.06 | Manaskashyap[m] | https://wiki.debian.org/ManasKashyap |
| 06:18.07 | valorie | well, I hear that they are hard to work with |
| 06:18.19 | Manaskashyap[m] | > [Manas kashyap](https://matrix.to/#/@reflector:matrix.org): we have a #kde-welcome chan for new contributors |
| 06:18.19 | Manaskashyap[m] | yeah saw that on wiki , wait joining it |
| 06:18.53 | valorie | cool |
| 06:18.58 | Manaskashyap[m] | > well, I hear that they are hard to work with |
| 06:18.59 | Manaskashyap[m] | i cant say hard , but yeah , this year in the last moment my project got ccancelled in which i applied |
| 06:19.00 | valorie | I mean it is matrix & IRC |
| 06:19.19 | Manaskashyap[m] | and , also the alloted seat for that project doesnt went to other project it just got nulliefied |
| 06:19.25 | valorie | Manaskashyap[m]: there are all kinds of reasons for that -- usually because a mentor has to pull out |
| 06:19.45 | valorie | without a mentor you can't do what's right for the student |
| 06:19.59 | valorie | we always try to have two mentors per student just in case |
| 06:20.09 | Manaskashyap[m] | > [Manas kashyap](https://matrix.to/#/@reflector:matrix.org): there are all kinds of reasons for that -- usually because a mentor has to pull out |
| 06:20.09 | Manaskashyap[m] | hmm maybe |
| 06:20.14 | Manaskashyap[m] | > we always try to have two mentors per student just in case |
| 06:20.15 | Manaskashyap[m] | thats good |
| 06:20.27 | valorie | I also work with Kubuntu so we deal with Debian |
| 06:21.01 | valorie | it's huge and old and sort of slow, and it seems like they aren't getting the new young devels/mentors that they used to |
| 06:21.58 | valorie | everyone wants to get paid and I get that, because this "gig" economy is sending all the money to the top instead of to the workers |
| 06:22.04 | Manaskashyap[m] | kubuntu , a ubunutu based distro with DE as KDE |
| 06:22.11 | valorie | yes |
| 06:23.18 | Manaskashyap[m] | it would be great if i could connect with them and help them in doing development as i have a previous expereince of Debian and also i have worked with hamaralinux.org a debian based operating system |
| 06:23.41 | valorie | sure! |
| 06:23.52 | valorie | #kubuntu and #kubuntu-devel |
| 06:26.26 | Manaskashyap[m] | > #kubuntu and #kubuntu-devel |
| 06:26.26 | Manaskashyap[m] | cant find in matrix server |
| 06:26.35 | Manaskashyap[m] | are they on OFTC or freenode ? |
| 06:26.53 | valorie | freenode |
| 06:27.08 | valorie | lots of people use matrix |
| 06:27.21 | valorie | you might have to connect using the kde bridge maybe? |
| 06:27.48 | Manaskashyap[m] | ohkay lemme search it and lemme find how to get connected |
| 06:27.52 | valorie | I only test one matrix chan because it's not really workinf for me yet |
| 06:28.17 | Manaskashyap[m] | if you can invite me to those channels it would be great |
| 06:28.34 | valorie | in matrix? |
| 06:28.37 | valorie | hmmm |
| 06:28.42 | Manaskashyap[m] | yeah |
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| 16:55.44 | lorbus | Hey everybody o/ |
| 16:56.05 | teepee | hi! |
| 16:56.22 | Manaskashyap[m] | hello |
| 16:57.02 | lorbus | I did GSoc last year and was wondering whether anyone from Germany is around here, who maybe knows where to put the GSoC $ in the German Tax Filing.. |
| 17:00.13 | teepee | well, I'm from germany, but I'm leaving the tax stuff to an actual tax adviser |
| 17:00.47 | lorbus | yeh I am not gonna pay for one lol |
| 17:01.29 | teepee | that's fine, your choice, there's also other options |
| 17:02.00 | lorbus | if your's has been filed already, any chance you know what Anlage it goes in? |
| 17:02.24 | lorbus | what other options are there? |
| 17:02.53 | teepee | I'm mentor so I don't have that, and then I'm self employed, so my tax stuff goes out in december ;) |
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| 17:05.08 | lorbus | hm I see |
| 17:05.36 | teepee | other options are groups like "Lohnsteuerhilfeverein" |
| 17:07.16 | teepee | I don't know much about those, there's just one based around the corner where I live :) |
| 17:07.27 | lorbus | oh that is actually a good idea. thanks I'll check them out |
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