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| 03:25.52 | Anonymous | Hey |
| 03:25.57 | Anonymous | google summer |
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| 03:26.25 | Anonymous | hello |
| 03:26.39 | Anonymous | is there anyone who chat with me here |
| 03:27.07 | valorie | Anonymous: this is a help channel |
| 03:27.12 | Anonymous | what is google summer of code i want ti know about it |
| 03:27.12 | valorie | do you have a question? |
| 03:27.23 | valorie | have you read the links in the topic? |
| 03:27.34 | valorie | always the best way to start |
| 03:27.42 | Anonymous | oh |
| 03:27.54 | Anonymous | what is use of this google summer |
| 03:27.57 | valorie | you can use /topic command |
| 03:28.06 | valorie | if your client doesn't display it |
| 03:28.16 | valorie | read then ask |
| 03:28.30 | Anonymous | #gsoc |
| 03:28.50 | Anonymous | it showing Insufficienr argument for command |
| 03:28.59 | valorie | you can't qualify without doing the research needed to find things out for yourself |
| 03:29.19 | valorie | pfff |
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| 07:45.57 | Guest34134 | how to enrolled in gsoc |
| 07:47.08 | valorie | Guest34134: have you read the link in the topic? |
| 07:47.38 | Guest34134 | no |
| 07:47.48 | valorie | good time to start then |
| 07:48.19 | valorie | basic research is a skill which will serve you well |
| 07:48.26 | valorie | in GSoC and in life |
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| 10:48.52 | Pranav_ | help |
| 10:51.26 | intrigus | !next |
| 10:51.35 | intrigus | !timeline |
| 10:52.15 | intrigus | Bot is taking a break? |
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| 11:15.47 | Abdelaty | HELP |
| 11:16.50 | Abdelaty | Hi guys |
| 11:17.39 | jn__ | hi Abdelaty |
| 11:17.54 | jn__ | feel free to ask questions about GSoC |
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| 11:22.40 | Nimish | Hi, I am in my final semester of 4 year UG. I will be graduating in May-2019. Am I eligible for gsoc 2019? |
| 11:25.16 | blast007 | Nimish: have you read the rules and the timeline? |
| 11:26.38 | Nimish | yes |
| 11:27.12 | Nimish | It's written that you need to be enrolled in 2019 academic year |
| 11:29.16 | blast007 | where does it mention that? |
| 11:29.47 | Nimish | Nevermind, I am eligible https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-summer-of-code-discuss/AwHb4xr8cl8 |
| 11:29.54 | blast007 | I'm seeing it say you must be enrolled in or accepted into ... as of the Acceptance Date |
| 11:30.15 | blast007 | (which is May 6th) |
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| 12:06.56 | MrFrank | is the list of organizations published yet? |
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| 13:21.09 | gsocbot | intrigus: Organizations Announced: February 26, 2019 12:00 *UTC* |
| 13:31.51 | fundamental_ | odd, the email said 20:00 UTC |
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| 13:38.11 | sadhen | 13:37:59 UTC now |
| 13:39.43 | achillion | LEET UTC |
| 13:40.41 | gevaerts | *just* :) |
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| 14:02.54 | Mihai | join gsoc |
| 14:03.04 | Mihai | Hello! |
| 14:03.23 | Guest72607 | Does anyone know at what time will the organizations be published? |
| 14:03.48 | teepee- | nope, sometimes today I guess |
| 14:04.05 | Guest72607 | sounds great |
| 14:05.39 | gevaerts | https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline says 12:00 UTC (which is two hours ago...), apparently at least one email says 20:00 UTC (which I believe is 12:00 California time), https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline doesn't specify an exact time |
| 14:06.11 | gevaerts | So yes, probably today :) |
| 14:06.16 | teepee- | with the earlier entries also being 20:00 UTC, that sounds pretty likely |
| 14:06.53 | Guest72607 | ah it makes sense now :D |
| 14:07.07 | teepee- | which is tomorrow in some places :D |
| 14:07.14 | gevaerts | Yes, my bet would be that they meant 12:00 "their" local time, and mistyped that as UTC |
| 14:07.22 | teepee- | yep |
| 14:08.22 | Guest72607 | what technologies are you guys opting for ? |
| 14:08.34 | Guest72607 | personally i'll try to find something that requires .net |
| 14:08.51 | gevaerts | I'm opting to mentor in 2011 :) |
| 14:09.02 | gevaerts | hasn't been directly involved for a while now |
| 14:10.27 | teepee- | I would mentor too, we'll see. And that would be 95% C++ then :) |
| 14:11.03 | Guest72607 | quite a few mentors here heh |
| 14:11.43 | achillion | Candidates* |
| 14:11.46 | achillion | :) |
| 14:11.59 | teepee- | or past years mentors :P |
| 14:12.19 | achillion | Or past student-mentor hybrids |
| 14:12.20 | teepee- | well, or past past past past... in case of gevaerts :D |
| 14:12.52 | Guest72607 | oh so some of you are part of organizations? |
| 14:13.14 | gevaerts | It's not my fault that the organisation I'm involved in tends not to be very active these days! |
| 14:14.03 | achillion | Isn't it though? |
| 14:14.09 | teepee- | no judgement at all, I do all my open source stuff in my spare time, so I know how to appreciate also past contributions |
| 14:14.21 | achillion | Are you sure you had nothing to do with it? :) |
| 14:15.02 | gevaerts | achillion: I blame Google, actually. It's mostly the rise of the smartphone. Dedicated portable audio players did go out of fashion a bit |
| 14:15.23 | gevaerts | (and Apple) |
| 14:15.26 | achillion | "a bit" :) |
| 14:15.32 | Guest72607 | mentor candidates, I guess it's today when the organizations will be shown that you'll know if you're becoming a mentor this year? :p |
| 14:15.44 | achillion | Guest72607: depends on the org |
| 14:15.49 | teepee- | no, it's just getting more likely :) |
| 14:16.05 | teepee- | you'll also need students to apply after the org is selected |
| 14:16.26 | gevaerts | With many organisations, who gets picked as a mentor depends on the exact student projects that are selected |
| 14:16.26 | achillion | Guest72607: My org might be selected, but if none of my projects get students, I wont be mentoring. |
| 14:16.51 | Guest72607 | I see |
| 14:17.11 | Guest72607 | i'm quite excited for this, it's my first time trying gsoc |
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| 14:17.22 | achillion | Well, I wish you the best of luck then :) |
| 14:17.32 | Guest72607 | thanks, you too :D |
| 14:17.52 | Guest72607 | as a mentor, you're looking for people who have already experienced a little with the technology you require right? |
| 14:18.18 | gevaerts | There's really a lot of variation in that |
| 14:18.40 | achillion | Not necessarily. There are certainly projects that are more advanced than others, but we try to keep them beginner friendly. |
| 14:18.48 | gevaerts | For one, some organisations work with things that aren't really common enough to require prior knowledge |
| 14:19.51 | Guest72607 | hmmm I see, I might opt for other technology if I don't find something in the .net world |
| 14:20.41 | Guest72607 | but you keeping them beginner friendly reassures me :D |
| 14:23.13 | gevaerts | Different organisations want different things from gsoc, but one common goal is to attract new developers in the long term. It helps to be welcoming if you want that :) |
| 14:26.07 | Guest72607 | I might be demanding a little too much here, but let's say a dev does really good in his gsoc performance, are there any chances he might get hired for the organization afterwards? |
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| 14:27.06 | teepee- | I guess that's possible, but there might be not a huge amount of orgs that actually can hire people |
| 14:28.15 | Guest72607 | I can imagine that yep, but nonetheless gsoc seems like a fun experience |
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| 16:54.19 | gsocernumber1 | Is it just me or the organizations page looks weird to the others as well? |
| 16:55.24 | oShas | ha ha no |
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| 17:02.19 | cetjs2 | why not publish accepted organizations list???? |
| 17:02.33 | fundamental | cetjs2: that should happen in a few hours |
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| 17:04.12 | cetjs2 | fundamental: what is few? |
| 17:04.16 | cetjs2 | ready |
| 17:04.51 | teepee- | current guestimate is 3 hours |
| 17:05.02 | teepee- | = 20:00 UTC |
| 17:05.09 | teepee- | we'll see :) |
| 17:06.56 | cetjs2 | teepee-: ok.. |
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| 17:13.55 | oShas | great stuff |
| 17:14.12 | oShas | will check again soon |
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| 17:17.02 | ashe | gsoc 19 |
| 17:18.59 | cetjs2 | ashe: hello |
| 17:19.10 | amitp | cetjs2: The gsoc timeline page said 12:00 UTC but there was a message on a mailing list that said it would be at 20:00 UTC |
| 17:24.26 | ashe | ok |
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| 17:29.25 | intrigus | The organizations already know if they have been accepted :) |
| 17:31.38 | amitp | Oh! Interesting. |
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| 17:39.53 | vmbrasseur | They do, and they're waiting for the official announcement from Google to make their own announcements. |
| 17:39.59 | vmbrasseur | 2000 UTC, woo. |
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| 18:11.18 | Crofton | waiting "patiently" |
| 18:11.48 | vmbrasseur | Sooooon |
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| 18:26.31 | cetjs2 | axat: hello |
| 18:27.11 | hash_ | HELP |
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| 18:40.03 | gppt | !next |
| 18:40.03 | gsocbot | gppt: Organizations Announced: February 26, 2019 12:00 *UTC* |
| 18:41.43 | gppt | Hi guys! |
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| 18:42.00 | gppt | I'm sorry, I'm unable to find the organizations link on the GSOC site. Anyone mind pointing me to it? |
| 18:42.59 | vmbrasseur | gppt: It hasn't been announced yet. Check back in an hour and 20 minutes. :-) |
| 18:45.14 | gppt | vmbrasseur: alright, thanks! |
| 18:46.28 | gppt | !learn next as Organizations Announced: February 26, 2019 12:00 *PST* |
| 18:46.29 | gsocbot | gppt: Not a factoid |
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| 19:05.24 | gsocbot | ArcherL: Organizations Announced: February 26, 2019 12:00 *UTC* |
| 19:06.06 | vmbrasseur | That's incorrect. It's 20:00 UTC, but 12:00 Pacific time. |
| 19:07.08 | amitp | That would explain the discrepancy |
| 19:07.18 | ArcherL | vmbrasseur: got it, Thanks. |
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| 19:28.18 | *** topic/#gsoc is | Google Summer of Code: https://g.co/gsoc | Google Code-in https://g.co/gci | |
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| 19:49.31 | r0bby | Oh 12:00 PT |
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| 19:51.27 | r0bby | vmbrasseur: whoa -- I assumed the wrong time UTC :X |
| 19:52.58 | r0bby | Robert_S: can times be added to the timeline -- it appears they are missing -- at least in my view |
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| 19:53.58 | r0bby | for when orgs are annoucned and when projects are announced |
| 20:00.21 | r0bby | Discourse is misbehaving :/ |
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| 20:00.44 | cetjs2 | public |
| 20:01.55 | cetjs2 | https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ |
| 20:01.59 | cetjs2 | yyy |
| 20:06.50 | intrigus | r0bby: Congrats :) |
| 20:06.54 | r0bby | w00t -- orgs knew we were accepted -- I had a topic staged |
| 20:07.06 | blast007 | r0bby: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline |
| 20:07.25 | r0bby | The one on the summerof code site at summerofcode.withgoogle.com doesn't have that |
| 20:12.39 | r0bby | intrigus: what project are ya with? |
| 20:12.46 | r0bby | I feel like everyone knows me but I don't know everyone lol |
| 20:15.18 | vmbrasseur | Woo! Super stoked the project got accepted its first time out: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/4760172386320384/ |
| 20:15.22 | vmbrasseur | \o/ |
| 20:15.43 | Crofton | multicloud! |
| 20:17.58 | Crofton | OK we are really live then :) |
| 20:18.10 | vmbrasseur | Yup! |
| 20:18.34 | fundamental | First time application here as well https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/6487755463327744/ |
| 20:19.40 | fundamental | vmbrasseur: that's a pretty nice list of companies using your project |
| 20:22.09 | vmbrasseur | fundamental: Thanks! :) |
| 20:26.24 | intrigus | r0bby: I talked to you on February 16th :) |
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| 20:28.22 | r0bby | hrm |
| 20:28.31 | r0bby | I forget :( |
| 20:28.41 | r0bby | Been swamped dealing with Outreachy |
| 20:30.24 | kgodey | we're pretty excited that Creative Commons got accepted, it's the first time for everyone on the current tech team |
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| 20:31.17 | gsocbot | gsst: Organizations Announced: February 26, 2019 12:00 *UTC* |
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| 20:31.53 | gsst | I just saw the published organizations |
| 20:32.12 | gsst | just wanted to confirm, are these all the organizations for this year? |
| 20:32.42 | r0bby | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19258053 |
| 20:32.53 | r0bby | gsst: yes, that is all the orgs |
| 20:32.58 | r0bby | Just posted that |
| 20:33.41 | gsst | thanks r0bby, I was just confirming |
| 20:34.30 | gsst | sadly an organization from last year didn't get in, and they seemed enthusiastic and had decent ideas for this year |
| 20:34.46 | r0bby | gsst: it happens |
| 20:34.48 | gsst | but I have some other ones I'm interested in, maybe they will get accepted next year ;) |
| 20:34.54 | r0bby | gsst: which org? |
| 20:35.13 | r0bby | I ask because there are programs which run concurrent to GSoC, Outreachy being one of them |
| 20:35.55 | gsst | oops, that came as a winky face. I meant :) |
| 20:36.03 | gsst | the org was Plone |
| 20:40.24 | gsst | just browsed through the whole list, it's cool to see some newer orgs having been accepted! |
| 20:41.05 | meflin | plone might end up under an unbrella |
| 20:41.41 | r0bby | meflin: which one, just curious |
| 20:42.11 | gsst | I would think it would land under Python. Thanks Merlin: |
| 20:42.21 | gsst | *meflin: auto correct |
| 20:42.31 | meflin | they have before |
| 20:43.25 | meflin | python |
| 20:43.38 | r0bby | ah |
| 20:43.39 | gsst | actually probably not Python Software Foundation, I'm not seeing them in the "Sub-orgs" https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/6017901476184064/ |
| 20:44.07 | meflin | they haven't asked .. but some orgs join after not making the cut |
| 20:45.14 | gsst | Merlin: ah I didn't know that, cool! |
| 20:45.29 | r0bby | meflin: the acceptance/rejection emails came yesterday |
| 20:45.41 | r0bby | or maybe just acceptance? |
| 20:46.13 | meflin | yes but it takes time to be added to the list , and like I say they haven't asked yet |
| 20:48.02 | r0bby | meflin: ah yeah |
| 20:49.43 | olly | someone said they'd had a rejection email yesterday |
| 20:51.02 | r0bby | olly: yeah -- I didn't even know Google sent them out early |
| 20:51.22 | olly | it's a new thing I think |
| 20:51.37 | r0bby | I think they did they so that rejected orgs can find homes under umbrella orgs -- I explicitly stated we preferred to be on our own but wouldn't mind being under DIAL |
| 20:51.44 | olly | it's a good idea really - otherwise there's a sudden "ah, we're in" as the wave of students crashes around you |
| 20:52.13 | r0bby | olly: We've had a steady influx of students already for at least the past month or so |
| 20:52.18 | olly | ah yes, for umbrella-ing too |
| 20:52.34 | olly | we've had a few - not sure I'd call it a steady influx |
| 20:52.57 | r0bby | Being on our own gives me more power to set policies -- though most policies are inline with how DIAL runs things so it wouldn't be an issue |
| 20:53.01 | fundamental | as this is my first time from the org standpoint it will be interesting to see if it's a wave or just a splash of students |
| 20:53.08 | meflin | our internal project has been over-run by students fixing ALL the bugs/issues |
| 20:53.13 | olly | two who've actually got involved, plus a few others emailing |
| 20:53.51 | r0bby | fundamental: which org? |
| 20:54.09 | r0bby | GSoC from an OA perspective isn't horrible but I did learn a few things I want to do this year |
| 20:54.17 | fundamental | r0bby: zynaddsubfx, which is comparatively small |
| 20:54.39 | r0bby | fundamental: eh -- so is LibreHealth really -- we're growing |
| 20:54.49 | olly | shooting being the last org in the list eh? |
| 20:55.20 | r0bby | but the thing with LibreHealth is that most of us have been involved with GSoC for well over a decade at this stage |
| 20:55.47 | fundamental | olly: heh, you can blame the original author for that name |
| 20:56.15 | r0bby | fundamental: lol that name is a mouthfull too |
| 20:56.48 | fundamental | r0bby: for the recent UI rewrite it's been mostly simplified to zyn-fusion from a user perspective |
| 20:57.30 | r0bby | fundamental: if ya need any tips and tricks -- ask away :) |
| 20:57.49 | r0bby | Been around for a longggg time -- like three GSoC administrations lol |
| 20:58.59 | r0bby | Leslie Hawthorn, Carol Smith, and now Stephanie :) I'm only counting the program manager in charge :) |
| 20:59.19 | r0bby | If we go more granular, it's far more than three |
| 20:59.36 | fundamental | r0bby: once students start noticing then I'm sure I'll have some questions. It's been a while since I've dealt with GSOC. I had one submission as a student back around 2012 or so |
| 20:59.59 | r0bby | fundamental: my only piece of advice is cherish the sad proposals -- they can be funny sometimes |
| 21:00.26 | meflin | those can be most desirable |
| 21:01.23 | fundamental | I'm prepared to see a few which fall into the "that's not even physically possible" category, though hopefully that's a very small category |
| 21:02.10 | meflin | if the student shows up early enough they can be directed to more possible/usefull ideas |
| 21:02.23 | fundamental | yep |
| 21:02.26 | meflin | assuming they talk |
| 21:02.50 | fundamental | hopefully a few appear as it should be easy enough to direct them towards the right stuff with a rough idea of their background/goals |
| 21:05.36 | r0bby | fundamental: I've gotten a research proposal one year |
| 21:05.50 | r0bby | a few that made me scratch my head |
| 21:09.12 | cetjs2 | is Russia (not Crimea) embraged and not apply to gsoc ? |
| 21:11.01 | meflin | it should be in the faq or gide for the list |
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| 21:18.34 | gsst | does anyone know how many maximum different organizations a student can apply to? all I'm seeing is 3 proposals maximum per org, but doesn't specify how many orgs we can apply to |
| 21:19.16 | meflin | I think that limit is for total proposals |
| 21:19.21 | PulkoMandy | I think it's 3 proposals max, not 3 per org |
| 21:19.33 | PulkoMandy | anyway, making 1 good proposal is better than making 2 half finished proposals |
| 21:20.25 | gsst | oh you're right meflin, I was misreading |
| 21:20.26 | cetjs2 | is Russia (not Crimea) embraged and not apply to gsoc ? |
| 21:20.35 | cetjs2 | PulkoMandy: ^ |
| 21:21.01 | intrigus | LGTM: gsoc Russia |
| 21:21.32 | PulkoMandy | I don't know, read about it in the program rules :) |
| 21:21.54 | gsst | PulkoMandy: I agree, quality over quantity. But this is pretty competitive, so I'm planning to work on all 3 to to increase my odds |
| 21:22.13 | r0bby | gsst: you can only do 1 or 2 quality proposals -- beyond that -- it just becomes bad. |
| 21:22.20 | meflin | gsst: usualy that decreaces the quality of your work |
| 21:22.40 | r0bby | The feedback loop for proposals can take weeks |
| 21:22.41 | intrigus | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-summer-of-code-discuss/Hpjknm66dYE https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/accepted-students | grep "Russia" |
| 21:23.03 | r0bby | gsst: aim for one |
| 21:23.53 | r0bby | You're going to wind up spending hours on your proposal and each org will require non-trivial contributuons -- which will also take hours..so my advice -- only do 1 or 2. Three will lead to you not getting any. |
| 21:24.17 | r0bby | non-trivial meaning it has to be more than just a typo fix |
| 21:24.36 | gsst | hmmm you guys are right, I think I'll aim for two instead. I'm actually not enrolled right now, so I have tons of time to get a headstart |
| 21:26.20 | r0bby | gsst: We've all been around the block a few times -- I've seen some bad proposals...dont let yours be bad |
| 21:26.53 | r0bby | I've been around GSoC since 2008, sat out 2014 and 2018. |
| 21:27.11 | r0bby | Selected 3x as a student |
| 21:27.57 | vel0city- | You guys really gotta improve searching/categorization of orgs/projects |
| 21:28.11 | vel0city- | Searching tags doesn't work |
| 21:28.24 | gsst | r0bby: oh wow. yeah don't worry, if I can only do one quality one then I'll only submit one |
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| 21:28.31 | vel0city- | And the existing categorization is too coarse and not very useful |
| 21:28.37 | olly | the rules just seem to say "United States embargoed country" so i guess you need to go and find out what those are |
| 21:29.01 | olly | but Russia is listed in the help as a "restricted country" where you don't get a t-shirt, etc |
| 21:29.09 | r0bby | vel0city-: works for me |
| 21:29.12 | olly | so that implies you must be able to take part there |
| 21:29.24 | olly | cetjs2: ^ |
| 21:30.08 | vel0city- | weird, it works only when I refresh after typing the keyword |
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| 21:30.32 | r0bby | vel0city-: it's an angular app |
| 21:30.37 | vel0city- | I'm using Vivaldi btw (chromium based) |
| 21:31.00 | vel0city- | r0bby: I don't know frontend :p what does that mean |
| 21:31.19 | r0bby | you can always file a bug report to them at gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 21:31.33 | vel0city- | right, will do, thanks |
| 21:31.48 | gsst | ask them if you can fix it as a GSOC project (if it's non-trivial) ;) |
| 21:31.56 | vel0city- | hehe |
| 21:32.04 | vel0city- | is Google itself an org? :p |
| 21:32.23 | r0bby | gsst: lol no -- the summer of code and google code-in webapp is closed-source sadly |
| 21:32.41 | r0bby | I've given them grief about for years now |
| 21:32.48 | gsst | lol |
| 21:32.59 | r0bby | I think so long as I ask -- it will be closed source just to spite me |
| 21:33.21 | r0bby | I'm half kidding on that last point |
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| 22:14.59 | vel0city- | Is the total amount of submitted orgs known? |
| 22:15.18 | vel0city- | Or an equivalent, the amount of orgs rejected? |
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| 22:29.35 | olly | vel0city-: not yet that I've seen at least |
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| 23:18.41 | terri | r0bby: definitely cherish the sad and the weird proposals. I was a little disturbed to get one that sounded ethnically questionable last year, though. (It was also totally irrelevant to my org so it was a moot point) |
| 23:18.55 | terri | err, ethically |
| 23:19.01 | terri | not ethnically, that would be a very different problem. :) |
| 23:19.50 | r0bby | vel0city-: we have no insight into other orgs you applied to -- we would only find out if during the de-duplication process, you get accepted by two orgs |
| 23:20.10 | r0bby | The first one can basically say no -- we're not giving up the student |
| 23:20.35 | olly | r0bby: i think the question was actually "how many orgs applied this year" |
| 23:20.51 | r0bby | Er wait misread |
| 23:21.16 | olly | i can see it could be interpreted how you did |
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| 23:45.25 | perepujal | !next |
| 23:45.26 | gsocbot | perepujal: Student Application Period March 25, 2019 - April 9, 2019 20:00 (CEST) |
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| 23:52.04 | perepujal | stats aren't updated anymore? |
| 23:52.44 | perepujal | last data is from 2016 |