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| 13:35.35 | sonu628 | hi everyone |
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| 13:39.45 | sonu628 | do you think opencv will be this year's organzations ? |
| 13:44.33 | sic_parvis_magna | hello everyone |
| 13:45.06 | sic_parvis_magna | will CLIPS be this year's organization? |
| 13:45.27 | gevaerts | You can ask them if they applied, but apart from that there's no information |
| 13:45.40 | sic_parvis_magna | How should I do that? |
| 13:46.51 | sic_parvis_magna | I got to know about this server . I thought we could chat with organizations here. |
| 13:47.31 | gevaerts | This channel is about gsoc in general. Specific organisations might have people here, but there's no guarantee |
| 13:47.58 | sic_parvis_magna | So , how should I find the required people to talk to? |
| 13:49.10 | gevaerts | Depends. If they have participated in previous years, they probably have gsoc-related contact information somewhere |
| 13:57.50 | sic_parvis_magna | Thank you gevaerts , Hope to find the information and contact them as soon as possible |
| 13:58.31 | fundamental | sic_parvis_magna: if you want to know if an organization applied, it shouldn't be too hard to see if they have a 'GSOC Ideas' page floating around |
| 13:58.40 | fundamental | that should be a reasonable indicator |
| 14:00.08 | sic_parvis_magna | Thank you |
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| 14:20.24 | sonu628 | has gimp applied this year's gsoc ? |
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| 17:45.23 | downey | So many questions, so little patience (until next week) :) |
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| 18:30.58 | sonu628 | hi everyone |
| 18:31.28 | fundamental | hello |
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| 19:24.56 | gabriel_94 | hi |
| 19:25.42 | gabriel_94 | I'm trying to reach the gsoc admin through gsoc-support@google.com, but after 1 week i still havent received an answer |
| 19:26.05 | gabriel_94 | do you know how long does it take to have an answer? |
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| 19:34.06 | PulkoMandy | gabriel_94: they are very busy reviewing GSoC applications this week I guess. It's a small team running everything |
| 19:36.22 | Ivanovic | gabriel_94: if it is a more generic question people in here might be able to answer it |
| 19:36.30 | Ivanovic | if it is "is org ABC in": they will ignore this |
| 19:36.36 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 19:37.09 | WRONgG | I'm so stoked to see the list |
| 19:37.23 | gabriel_94 | i alreadt did gsoc twice and i wanted to know whether i could use my voucher to have an interview for an intership at google X |
| 19:38.03 | gabriel_94 | i know you can use it for an interview at google, but i'd really like to participate in Project Loon, which is runned by Google X |
| 19:39.09 | WRONgG | gabriel_94: what teams did you work for? |
| 19:40.11 | gabriel_94 | I worked for Freifunk, an organization wich runs project on Wireless(Mesh) Community Networks |
| 19:40.27 | gabriel_94 | so it's quite similare to what project loons does |
| 19:40.43 | gabriel_94 | except that nodes in WCN doesn't move around .-. |
| 19:41.31 | WRONgG | chill, I haven't been apart of gsoc before but I was really excited to find it |
| 19:43.42 | Ivanovic | gabriel_94: okay, that sounds like a special question that only someone from google can answer |
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| 19:43.55 | Ivanovic | on the other hand: is there some contact address provided on how to make use of the voucher? |
| 19:44.15 | gabriel_94 | somewhere i read that you have to write an email to gsoc-support |
| 19:44.19 | Ivanovic | you could try to find a contact at google X an try to ask the people there if you could have an interview for an internship... |
| 19:44.39 | WRONgG | just checked out loon, they still link a google+ page on the site |
| 19:44.41 | WRONgG | lol |
| 19:44.51 | gabriel_94 | yeah, there's a selection process directly at google X, but before i wanted to try this shortcut before |
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| 21:22.13 | dishank | hello... |
| 21:22.56 | intrigus | Darkness my old friend |
| 21:23.38 | dishank | What level of expertise organizations looking-for in the students? |
| 21:24.28 | dishank | I am right now hopeless and unable to find what should i start learning |
| 21:24.32 | vmbrasseur | dishank: It depends upon the project. Some are for people with less experience, while others will require more experience. |
| 21:24.53 | vmbrasseur | dishank: A skill that will be applicable to almost every project is git. |
| 21:25.04 | vmbrasseur | So if you start working on learning git, it will help you a lot. |
| 21:25.08 | dishank | git i know alot |
| 21:25.38 | vmbrasseur | Then that's a good start. |
| 21:25.57 | vmbrasseur | However, for everyone else, check out Git-Gud: https://nic-hartley.github.io/git-gud/ |
| 21:26.19 | dishank | i am just unable to makeup my mind about where should i start to increase my expertise on |
| 21:27.41 | PulkoMandy | it depends on the project, really |
| 21:28.01 | PulkoMandy | the universe is vast and there are thousands of different projects, using different programming languages, doing different things |
| 21:28.07 | PulkoMandy | so there isn't a single answer |
| 21:28.23 | dishank | but what should i learn which is common in all? |
| 21:29.08 | dishank | i know C++, java, go, MEAN stack |
| 21:30.11 | dishank | thinking of switching to WebAssembly as i want to expand my C++ knowledge and also keep developing for web applications |
| 21:30.47 | valorie | you're thinking about this from the wrong end |
| 21:30.52 | valorie | what do you LOVE? |
| 21:30.56 | valorie | work on that |
| 21:31.07 | valorie | what is your passion in life? |
| 21:31.20 | dishank | BUT its a lot and i cant make a decision to what should i go for in full speed. |
| 21:31.31 | valorie | think about what you love to do |
| 21:31.40 | valorie | what software do you love? |
| 21:31.49 | dishank | I love computer as a whole from my childhood |
| 21:31.52 | PulkoMandy | whatever you learn, there will be a project you can contribute to |
| 21:31.58 | valorie | what is your hobby when you're away from your computer? |
| 21:32.01 | dishank | i want to learn everything |
| 21:32.09 | valorie | astronomy? tennis? |
| 21:32.12 | valorie | diving? |
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| 21:32.18 | PulkoMandy | but while you are at it, you may as well chose one you think is useful, or fun, or whatever motivates you |
| 21:32.21 | valorie | if you do something you love |
| 21:32.26 | valorie | you'll keep at it |
| 21:32.30 | dishank | i want to learn everything related to computer |
| 21:32.30 | valorie | and have fun doing it |
| 21:32.41 | valorie | to do what? |
| 21:32.51 | valorie | like, if you already knew everything |
| 21:32.55 | valorie | what would you do? |
| 21:33.23 | dishank | I will develop games whenever i want |
| 21:33.28 | valorie | aha |
| 21:33.42 | dishank | or make a software for my dad if he need helps with something |
| 21:33.46 | valorie | then look at some of the game developing projects |
| 21:33.52 | dishank | or make an application for my own pleasure |
| 21:33.59 | valorie | such as? |
| 21:34.05 | dishank | i am confused soul |
| 21:34.13 | valorie | nope |
| 21:34.23 | valorie | you're just young and open and in love with life |
| 21:34.35 | valorie | since here you must focus on one thing |
| 21:34.40 | valorie | make it something you love |
| 21:34.58 | dishank | can you give me an advice? |
| 21:35.12 | meflin | that was very very good advice |
| 21:35.23 | dishank | I want to make a desktop application |
| 21:35.43 | dishank | cross-platform |
| 21:35.55 | meflin | so go find a project that fits that desire |
| 21:36.06 | dishank | what should i use? c++ with qt |
| 21:36.10 | dishank | or RUST |
| 21:36.32 | dishank | i am not sure what should i learn which will last |
| 21:36.33 | meflin | find the project and find out |
| 21:36.56 | intrigus | nothing will last forever, but dust. |
| 21:36.56 | dishank | Its not what i am asking |
| 21:37.02 | meflin | what you will learn will outlast languages |
| 21:37.05 | dishank | hmm dust |
| 21:37.42 | valorie | if you need to learn something new, you will |
| 21:37.52 | valorie | find a community you fit into |
| 21:38.02 | dishank | I have alove for web but i dont want to ignore desktop |
| 21:38.06 | valorie | there are lots of communities making FOSS games |
| 21:38.21 | valorie | for desktop/web/phone |
| 21:38.45 | valorie | KDE does some games, even had a game engine at one time |
| 21:38.56 | intrigus | https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology if you like java |
| 21:39.20 | valorie | there are many who have participated in GSoC in the past if you want to narrow your search to those |
| 21:39.34 | valorie | dive in, fix some bugs, get to know some people |
| 21:39.36 | dishank | i dont hate java but i dont want to learn java either |
| 21:39.51 | valorie | ask if they have applied this year |
| 21:39.56 | dishank | when it comes to java vs c++!! i always choose C++ |
| 21:40.25 | valorie | (KDE has, but not for games I think -- except Gcompris which are children's learning games) |
| 21:40.36 | valorie | kde is c++ and Qt |
| 21:40.59 | dishank | sure @valorie |
| 21:41.17 | valorie | but look around, see what's out there |
| 21:41.25 | valorie | and at least start using the software |
| 21:41.32 | dishank | how can i find GSOC participants? |
| 21:41.40 | valorie | it makes me sad to hear students say that they only use Win/Mac |
| 21:41.45 | dishank | ya i am on it @valorie |
| 21:42.07 | valorie | do your research and you'll find the right org |
| 21:42.10 | dishank | i am kali linux user XD |
| 21:42.14 | valorie | cool |
| 21:42.29 | dishank | kidding i love linux but i migrated to mac |
| 21:42.31 | valorie | then you are ahead |
| 21:43.22 | dishank | seriously, i love linux. i did a Red Hat Admin course as well |
| 21:44.25 | dishank | valorie you always here in here. if i need help next time. Will you be here? |
| 21:44.42 | valorie | yes |
| 21:44.53 | valorie | I'm almost always in IRC |
| 21:45.00 | valorie | except when sleeping |
| 21:45.08 | dishank | cool. ur github handle? |
| 21:45.15 | dishank | i will follow u there |
| 21:45.24 | valorie | uh, I think I have one but don't use it |
| 21:45.36 | valorie | I'm valorie or valoriez everywhere |
| 21:45.46 | dishank | coool |
| 21:45.54 | valorie | KDE uses git, but only mirrors on github |
| 21:46.04 | valorie | that is proprietary sofware |
| 21:46.32 | dishank | hmm |
| 21:49.54 | valorie | I am here, but so are lots of others |
| 21:50.31 | valorie | that's the whole point of a channel -- a whole group of people with varying knowledge sets and availability at any point in time |
| 21:50.58 | dishank | i love it |
| 21:51.21 | dishank | why dont irc channel stores history? |
| 21:51.53 | dishank | silly question |
| 21:51.59 | PulkoMandy | because IRC is old :) |
| 21:52.13 | meflin | its real time its up to you to store them ... also sometimes you do not want things stored |
| 21:52.24 | PulkoMandy | you can setup your own tools to do that however. I run znc on my own server, it keeps some backlog |
| 21:52.45 | PulkoMandy | there are probably other similar tools |
| 21:53.00 | dishank | i am using kiwwiirc |
| 21:53.22 | dishank | does it have storing option? i like to know what happend in the channel after i left |
| 21:53.54 | meflin | dont leave :) |
| 21:54.32 | dishank | lol |
| 21:54.53 | dishank | makes sense but not feasible |
| 21:55.09 | meflin | see PulkoMandy answer ;) |
| 21:55.36 | PulkoMandy | have a robot not leave for you :) |
| 21:55.49 | dishank | he said dont leave the IRC, i was replying to that comment XD |
| 21:56.03 | dishank | got it |
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| 21:58.01 | valorie | you can use matrix |
| 21:58.12 | valorie | unless the admins disallow it, you get history |
| 21:58.31 | valorie | Riot is the most-used app to use it |
| 22:00.14 | dishank | checking it |
| 22:05.55 | dishank | im logged into riot |
| 22:06.14 | dishank | and when finding room in #freenode |
| 22:06.25 | dishank | i am unable to find gsoc |
| 22:08.10 | valorie | hmmm |
| 22:09.09 | dishank | i am able to see other gsoc but not this one |
| 22:10.13 | valorie | other gsoc? |
| 22:10.22 | dishank | like |
| 22:10.27 | dishank | gsoc-india |
| 22:10.31 | valorie | I don't see it either |
| 22:10.40 | dishank | gsoc:matrixk.org |
| 22:11.00 | valorie | ah, it's a secret chan |
| 22:11.09 | valorie | therefore will not appear |
| 22:11.25 | valorie | I think this was an effort to lessen the spam for awhile |
| 22:11.39 | valorie | what say you, chanops? |
| 22:11.44 | *** mode/#gsoc [-s] by meflin |
| 22:11.44 | *** mode/#gsoc [+s] by ChanServ |
| 22:11.46 | valorie | time to change that? |
| 22:12.02 | dishank | oh i can now join? |
| 22:12.03 | meflin | seems its backed in by higher powers |
| 22:12.10 | dishank | :) |
| 22:12.23 | meflin | no idea why |
| 22:13.23 | PulkoMandy | dishank: that does not prevent from joining, just from seeing the channel in channel list |
| 22:13.25 | valorie | I'm guessing that this might require writing to the team |
| 22:13.55 | dishank | hmm |
| 22:13.59 | dishank | i joined it |
| 22:14.07 | valorie | some people are here via matrix so it is possible |
| 22:14.13 | dishank | dave, erik and others are admin |
| 22:14.15 | dishank | right? |
| 22:14.24 | meflin | dont think so |
| 22:14.27 | dishank | kegan, mathew |
| 22:14.40 | dishank | channel name is |
| 22:14.49 | dishank | #gsoc:matrix |
| 22:14.56 | meflin | you would have seen yourself join here |
| 22:15.05 | dishank | ooh |
| 22:15.10 | dishank | makes sense |
| 22:15.45 | meflin | unless you have joins hiden a lot of clients do that ... but you did not join |
| 22:17.27 | dishank | i need help |
| 22:17.29 | dishank | see |
| 22:17.37 | dishank | when i am looking for room |
| 22:17.48 | meflin | channel not room :D |
| 22:17.59 | dishank | ooh |
| 22:18.06 | dishank | sorry |
| 22:18.16 | dishank | but riot is showing room |
| 22:18.32 | meflin | bad bad dev's :D |
| 22:18.41 | dishank | hmm |
| 22:18.55 | dishank | when i am looking for channel |
| 22:19.11 | dishank | i type gsoc and then select #freenode |
| 22:19.27 | dishank | should i do something different? |
| 22:19.45 | meflin | no idea |
| 22:19.58 | meflin | matrix is matrix this is irc itself |
| 22:21.27 | olly | i think #gsoc:matrix.org is a channel for discussing matrix's own participation in gsoc, not a channel bridged to this one |
| 22:21.53 | dishank | ya @olly i am thinking the same |
| 22:22.40 | dishank | bcs its saying in the description proposal and ideas for matrix |
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| 22:25.12 | dishank | olly, how u joined again? u didnt left |
| 22:25.26 | olly | that's me via matrix |
| 22:25.36 | dishank | i gussed but how? |
| 22:25.40 | olly | though matrix seems confused as it shows me in a channel with just chanserv |
| 22:26.12 | olly | and i can't actually talk to this channel, chanserv tries to interpret it |
| 22:26.15 | dishank | no idea about what u said |
| 22:26.35 | olly | in riot, I'm in a "room" with just the ChanServ bot |
| 22:26.43 | olly | which is an IRC services bot |
| 22:26.52 | dishank | oh |
| 22:27.01 | valorie | the admins will need to set up the bridging |
| 22:27.03 | olly | i got the #gsoc channel greeting, but chanserv told it to me |
| 22:27.05 | dishank | it means riot wont be helpful |
| 22:27.15 | dishank | oh ok admins can make it possible |
| 22:27.19 | olly | I thought you could use channels that weren't bridged too |
| 22:27.20 | valorie | no, it means some work needs doing |
| 22:27.29 | olly | but I must admit i haven't tried before |
| 22:28.01 | dishank | olly, can u please guide me through to join gsoc via riot |
| 22:28.06 | valorie | you can, but unless you are an op in the irc channel you can't set up the bridge |
| 22:28.33 | valorie | if you op up, then you can do it and set up aliases |
| 22:28.38 | olly | I'm not sure it's useful, but FWIW, what I did was click "+" at the top of the "ROOMS" list on the left, then selected "#Freenode" on the right of the pop up and entered #gsoc in the search |
| 22:29.12 | olly | which gives no results *but* a "<-Join" button appears in the search field, which i clicked |
| 22:29.45 | *** join/#gsoc dishank[m] (dishankmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ymqwhadupqtjjmdn) |
| 22:29.57 | dishank | i am doing the same thing over and over it |
| 22:30.06 | olly | i guess we're ops so could set up the bridge, but perhaps that's something we should check with the OSPO people first |
| 22:30.12 | dishank | i was searching with just gsoc |
| 22:30.27 | olly | the # matters |
| 22:30.40 | dishank | but when i typed the name with '#'gsoc it connected me instantly |
| 22:30.54 | dishank[m] | yoyo |
| 22:31.07 | dishank | riot is working right? |
| 22:31.12 | dishank | u can see my msg? |
| 22:31.12 | olly | ah, I wonder if I ended up in a strange limbo because I'm an op |
| 22:31.15 | olly | yes |
| 22:31.23 | dishank | cool XD XD |
| 22:31.37 | dishank | op means ? Over-Powered? |
| 22:31.46 | dishank | or operations something |
| 22:31.48 | olly | channel operator |
| 22:32.00 | dishank | cool |
| 22:32.03 | dishank | XD |
| 22:32.05 | olly | means you can evict trouble makers, etc |
| 22:32.20 | dishank | that is necessary |
| 22:32.40 | olly | not often thankfully |
| 22:32.52 | olly | except for the prolonged spam attack we had a while back |
| 22:32.55 | dishank | thanks for help valorie and olly and meflin and pulkomandy |
| 22:33.17 | dishank | hates are everywhere |
| 22:33.19 | valorie | you are most welcome, dishank |
| 22:33.23 | olly | i just tested on another non-bridged channel I'm not an op on and that worked |
| 22:33.38 | valorie | it's nice to see a student stick around long enough to get a conversation going |
| 22:33.43 | olly[m] | test |
| 22:33.50 | olly[m] | ah, so I am here |
| 22:33.52 | valorie | you're here, olly[m] |
| 22:34.05 | dishank | :) |
| 22:34.13 | olly | yes, he was just being an idiot |
| 22:34.32 | dishank | seriously, i love computers as a whole |
| 22:35.26 | dishank | i wanted to interact with u all on a daily basis to get the help and help back who needs it |
| 22:35.40 | dishank | thanks and bye |
| 22:35.56 | dishank | know it time to learn C++ and qt |
| 22:37.05 | valorie | :-) |
| 22:37.19 | valorie | Qt is one of the major toolkits |
| 22:38.50 | dishank[m] | i am still here!! |
| 22:38.55 | dishank[m] | hehe |
| 22:39.37 | meflin | I see you dishank[m] |
| 22:40.03 | dishank[m] | just wondering!! what else will be helpful learning with qt? |
| 22:40.23 | dishank[m] | as i made up my mind to dive into C++ and qt |
| 22:44.12 | *** join/#gsoc RT|Chatzilla (~chatzilla@reactos/tester/RT) |
| 22:45.37 | dishank[m] | can you recommend me c++ irc? |
| 22:49.59 | valorie | there are qt channels |
| 22:50.28 | valorie | if you are looking at freenode channels, there is alis, which is a search engine for freenode |
| 22:50.45 | valorie | you use it like: /msg alis list *searchterm* |
| 22:50.49 | valorie | on a newline |
| 22:51.20 | valorie | I don't know if it works from matrix |
| 22:51.35 | valorie | perhaps from the appservice service window |
| 22:55.09 | dishank[m] | nop doesnt work from matrix. |
| 22:55.34 | dishank[m] | but thanks for that. i can now find new channels |
| 23:08.38 | *** join/#gsoc teepee_ (~teepee@unaffiliated/teepee) |
| 23:23.30 | valorie | most freenode channels allow matrix users to join, unless they are set +r in which case you need to identify to freenode via matrix |
| 23:24.02 | valorie | https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/End-user-FAQ has some hints |
| 23:26.03 | *** join/#gsoc perepujal (~pere@185.193.69.67) |