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| 01:54.55 | arun__ | Hi, I am new ro gsoc as well as open source |
| 01:55.02 | arun__ | please guide me through |
| 02:02.21 | valorie | hi arun |
| 02:02.30 | valorie | have you read the student guide? |
| 02:02.42 | valorie | !studentguide |
| 02:02.43 | gsocbot | valorie: https://g.co/gsoc/studentguide |
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| 02:04.07 | arun__ | Yes I have valorie but I am confused which project to chose and which language as well as which organizatons plus I have never worked on a real life project |
| 02:04.26 | valorie | what are you interested in? |
| 02:04.34 | valorie | what do you do with your free time? |
| 02:05.06 | valorie | gaming, photography, history, reading, hiking, ? |
| 02:05.26 | valorie | best to follow your heart IMO |
| 02:05.55 | arun__ | I love virtual reality, media, programming libraries |
| 02:06.06 | arun__ | I am thinking of mozilla |
| 02:06.23 | valorie | hmmm, I dunno about who in FOSS does virtual reality |
| 02:06.31 | arun__ | but how do i start contributing and how do i get to know other developers? |
| 02:06.42 | valorie | but there are lots of media services that are FOSS |
| 02:06.49 | valorie | the biggest being Kodi |
| 02:07.23 | valorie | do you use any free and open source media services? |
| 02:07.44 | valorie | the most successful road "in" is to fix software you love |
| 02:07.51 | arun__ | Hey Valorie, Do you blong to some open sourse organization? I would love to help you in your projects |
| 02:07.57 | valorie | in communities you love |
| 02:08.02 | valorie | yes, KDE |
| 02:08.17 | arun__ | it's a desktop environment right? |
| 02:08.20 | arun__ | for Linux? |
| 02:08.27 | valorie | we do offer plasma, yes |
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| 02:08.35 | valorie | but loads of other software too |
| 02:09.05 | valorie | our media player is on ice right now, unfortunately |
| 02:09.11 | arun__ | I previously chose Gnome as I am good with designing but had not any positive response from gnome |
| 02:09.22 | valorie | but we do an amazing array of stuff |
| 02:09.29 | arun__ | How can I help you in your projects> |
| 02:09.42 | valorie | ooooo, we have a very friendly Visual Design Group |
| 02:10.00 | arun__ | That's cool, Now I really want to work for ya |
| 02:10.11 | valorie | join the #kde-vdg channel and read it for awhile, click on some of the links, and see how you might help |
| 02:10.28 | valorie | designers who can program are highly prized |
| 02:10.44 | valorie | and one of the reasons KDE applications look so great lately |
| 02:10.47 | arun__ | Any github link? |
| 02:11.06 | valorie | we host our own git, but the code is mirrored on github |
| 02:11.34 | arun__ | ok, so I am gonna join #kde-vdg |
| 02:11.38 | valorie | in general github isn't used |
| 02:11.46 | arun__ | I hope to meet you there as wel |
| 02:11.49 | arun__ | ^-^ |
| 02:12.20 | valorie | oh, I'm there |
| 02:12.23 | valorie | :-) |
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| 02:37.34 | r0bby | valorie is everywhere -- she's our honorary grandma :D Actually strike that... lol I'd never say half the things I said in front of her -- in front of my actual grandparents lol |
| 02:37.53 | valorie | lol |
| 02:38.16 | valorie | I'll be your grandma anytime you need one, r0bby |
| 02:38.19 | valorie | <3 |
| 02:44.04 | r0bby | <3 |
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| 10:28.04 | Freso | Aww. |
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| 20:11.26 | Muus | How to root my Huawei y7 |
| 20:12.11 | valorie | wrong channel, Muus |
| 20:12.20 | valorie | we're about GCi and GSoC |
| 20:13.28 | Muus | Direct me to Chanel where I can get help to root my Huawei y7 |
| 20:15.12 | valorie | right |
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| 20:35.28 | sanji515 | Hello I'm a beginner, how to get started |
| 20:42.30 | valorie | hi sanji515, get started doing what? |
| 21:06.25 | valorie | I just wrote a reminder email to some would-be mentors because they had not yet accepted their invitations, according to the GCi app |
| 21:06.59 | valorie | unfortunately, now I feel like a doofus because I see them (with the same emails) in the list of mentor |
| 21:07.10 | valorie | I think this is a bug -- anyone else seeing this? |
| 21:08.24 | Robert_S | valorie: Send an email with specific examples. |
| 21:08.45 | valorie | oh gosh, that means I need to Do Work |
| 21:09.00 | valorie | but maybe the egg will be off my face if I atone with Work |
| 21:09.03 | valorie | :-) |
| 21:17.19 | Robert_S | We're just splitting the work. My UX doesn't actually show what I need to debug it, so it's easier to go under the hood, but to do that I need the info you see. |
| 21:18.50 | r0bby | I will never understand why students cheat |
| 21:18.59 | r0bby | I mean I get it -- just...we will catch you |
| 21:19.02 | r0bby | :/ |
| 21:19.35 | valorie | Robert_S: sent |
| 21:20.01 | r0bby | sighs |
| 21:20.56 | valorie | r0bby: thanks for doing the work of teaching them what cheating is |
| 21:21.10 | valorie | and why it's not a good or useful thing to do |
| 21:21.18 | r0bby | I reported it but asked no action be taken -- for now |
| 21:21.25 | r0bby | If it happens again -- they're finished |
| 21:21.32 | valorie | some of them don't realize, I think |
| 21:21.39 | valorie | some do and do it anyway |
| 21:21.41 | r0bby | This is a student who last year, despite me saying QUALITY over QUANTITY -- did not get it |
| 21:22.05 | valorie | again, that is counter-cultural |
| 21:22.15 | valorie | more is better, big is better, etc. |
| 21:22.28 | r0bby | Not to mention all of DIAL's tasks have a link explainining plagiarism. So really ignorance isn't an excuse. |
| 21:22.42 | valorie | but then FOSS is counter-cultural |
| 21:24.10 | r0bby | true -- this is a kid who tested the patience of one of the most well-grounded people I know -- she is the type who in a crisis would be solidly in control and calm |
| 21:25.01 | valorie | I mean, 10 years ago can you imagine yourself doing what you do, and thinking the way you do? |
| 21:25.12 | valorie | it takes time to change lives, and change minds |
| 21:25.14 | r0bby | I was doing it 10 years ago |
| 21:25.15 | r0bby | :P |
| 21:25.22 | r0bby | I been around FOSS for a long time |
| 21:25.27 | valorie | ok, 15 years ago |
| 21:25.37 | valorie | gosh |
| 21:25.46 | r0bby | Still was -- i think |
| 21:25.50 | valorie | I've been using linux for over 15 years |
| 21:25.58 | perepujal | 20 years ago I discovered Linux |
| 21:26.02 | valorie | but not contributing |
| 21:26.52 | r0bby | I did use it as a teachable moment; but if a pattern emerges -- I won't feel guilty if they get disqualified |
| 21:27.28 | valorie | of course |
| 21:27.52 | valorie | teaching can be painful for both the teacher and the student |
| 21:28.56 | r0bby | Last year -- I unassignd the final task due to a student cheating but didn;t report it |
| 21:29.07 | r0bby | They didn't like it but I had to do it |
| 21:29.44 | valorie | personally I would report it at least internally |
| 21:48.28 | r0bby | I reported it informally |
| 21:48.48 | r0bby | Stephanie said to do it during the session at the summit and I did that |
| 21:49.06 | r0bby | I contemplated not but this would embolden them to do it again |
| 22:06.15 | Robert_S | valorie: did you see my reply? |
| 22:06.40 | valorie | not yet, just sat back down in front of the keyboard |
| 22:07.12 | valorie | screenie on the way |
| 22:08.44 | Freso | Counter culture is best culture. |
| 22:08.52 | valorie | sent |
| 22:09.05 | valorie | Freso: ya maaaan |
| 22:10.38 | Freso | r0bby: I think it's definitely useful to do the "informal" reports. If Steph et al gets 5 "don't take action" e-mails from various org.s about the same student, maybe it's time to take action anyway, but each individual org. wouldn't know. |
| 22:11.06 | r0bby | Yeah -- that's by design |
| 22:11.22 | r0bby | Last year I crossed a major red line -- and I won't cross that one again |
| 22:12.58 | r0bby | I trust Stephanie and the team's judgement |
| 22:14.24 | r0bby | The plagiarism in question wasn't even subtle -- but I still want to use it as a teachable moment -- but the student pretty much has to earn my trust back |
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