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| 19:07.30 | widp | When do students usually start preparing for gsoc? |
| 19:07.40 | widp | Freso: |
| 19:07.49 | meflin | no one knows |
| 19:08.04 | widp | indeed. |
| 19:08.05 | meflin | never to soon to get involved with open source |
| 19:08.33 | widp | just wondering about the timeline. |
| 19:09.01 | meflin | if and when next year is anounced it will have a timeline |
| 19:09.41 | widp | "if" ? |
| 19:09.54 | meflin | it hasn't been anounced yet |
| 19:10.53 | widp | right, are the channel ops part of google? |
| 19:11.02 | widp | is this an official channel? |
| 19:11.15 | meflin | this is an official channel |
| 19:11.22 | meflin | I am not a employ of google |
| 19:11.59 | widp | so how do you guys fit into the whole thing? |
| 19:12.26 | meflin | well the channel is full of students and admins and mentors and such |
| 19:12.39 | widp | I see. |
| 19:12.56 | meflin | mostly I've been around a long time and I kick out spam-bots while I am around |
| 19:13.32 | meflin | nothing I way IS official or from on high |
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| 19:24.07 | widp | meflin: I see. |
| 19:30.22 | Freso | The channel is also about Google Code-in, and I'm not so much involved with GSoC (I was an admin once some years ago), but I've been a GCI org. admin the last several years. |
| 19:30.45 | Freso | widp: Did you read the student guide? |
| 19:30.48 | Freso | !studentguide |
| 19:30.48 | gsocbot | Freso: https://g.co/gsoc/studentguide |
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| 20:39.17 | Kevin_ | hello |
| 20:40.06 | Kevin_ | I had a question regarding the organizations you can code for |
| 20:40.39 | meflin | and the question is? |
| 20:40.41 | Kevin_ | How do you know what companies you can do the GSOC for |
| 20:40.56 | Kevin_ | Like can it be any or specific ones |
| 20:41.02 | meflin | organizations are not companys |
| 20:41.17 | Kevin_ | So if i wanted to code for something for Snapchat |
| 20:41.18 | Kevin_ | I cang |
| 20:41.23 | Kevin_ | Can't |
| 20:41.25 | meflin | you can see the list for this year it changes each season |
| 20:42.07 | Kevin_ | So my proposals have to be dealing with the organizations given on the list? |
| 20:42.23 | meflin | yes |
| 20:42.35 | meflin | altho orgs have not been chosen for next year |
| 20:42.43 | Kevin_ | Do you have a link to the list of organizations this year |
| 20:43.15 | meflin | its in the topic -> https://g.co/gsoc |
| 20:43.23 | Kevin_ | oh ok thanks |
| 20:43.35 | Kevin_ | And also |
| 20:43.44 | Kevin_ | How do you know what kind of proposal to make |
| 20:43.45 | meflin | you should start working on something you like |
| 20:43.54 | olly | snapchat is open source is it? |
| 20:43.55 | Kevin_ | from the organizations listed |
| 20:44.05 | Kevin_ | Is snapchat open sourse |
| 20:44.07 | Kevin_ | source |
| 20:44.23 | meflin | get involved with the project , get to know ppl |
| 20:44.40 | olly | "LicenseProprietary software" says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapchat |
| 20:44.47 | Kevin_ | Ohh i see |
| 20:44.59 | olly | so that wouldn't be suitable for gsoc anyway |
| 20:45.18 | Kevin_ | Rip my idea for Snapchat |
| 20:45.47 | Kevin_ | Also how old are people or what year are they in uni that typically do the GSOC |
| 20:46.06 | meflin | first year of uni or more |
| 20:46.13 | meflin | the oldest I've seen was 58 |
| 20:46.39 | meflin | you have to be 18 |
| 20:46.48 | Kevin_ | So are there 18 year olda |
| 20:46.54 | Kevin_ | that have done thus |
| 20:46.55 | Kevin_ | this |
| 20:46.59 | meflin | yes |
| 20:47.09 | meflin | if you are under 18 you can gci |
| 20:48.54 | Kevin_ | whats gci |
| 20:49.04 | meflin | google code in |
| 20:49.59 | Kevin_ | dammit i missed my chance |
| 20:50.05 | Kevin_ | should have seen this sooner |
| 20:50.10 | Kevin_ | im going into uni this year sept |
| 20:50.33 | Kevin_ | so im still 17 until oct since thats my bday |
| 20:50.39 | meflin | anyone can at anytime contribute to open ource projects |
| 20:50.42 | Kevin_ | but yea i cant do gci no more right |
| 20:50.46 | Kevin_ | really |
| 20:51.10 | Kevin_ | its cuz i wanna get exposed to coding in that kinda stuff |
| 20:51.21 | Kevin_ | Like so I'll be able to learn |
| 20:51.26 | Kevin_ | what it takes to get a job |
| 20:52.40 | Kevin_ | by any chance can i still do gci? |
| 20:52.51 | meflin | read the rules |
| 20:52.59 | meflin | there are no exceptions |
| 20:53.13 | meflin | no need for gci or gsoc to get involved |
| 20:54.50 | Kevin_ | Sorry im somewhat confused |
| 20:54.51 | Kevin_ | what rules |
| 20:54.59 | Kevin_ | for gci/gsoc or something else |
| 20:55.05 | meflin | both |
| 20:55.40 | Kevin_ | Yea i wanted to do gci as practice for gsoc |
| 20:55.57 | Kevin_ | but your saying i can get involved without it |
| 20:56.04 | Kevin_ | can you specify more about it |
| 20:56.16 | meflin | find any open source project and get involved |
| 20:58.37 | Kevin_ | Like just search on google for open source projects and try to get in? |
| 20:58.47 | Kevin_ | its that easy? |
| 20:58.54 | meflin | yes |
| 20:59.05 | meflin | also you can find some open source program you like |
| 20:59.53 | meflin | <-out |
| 21:02.17 | Kevin_ | what did you mean by <- out |
| 21:07.18 | olly | that he's going out |
| 21:13.12 | Kevin_ | ohh |
| 21:13.12 | valorie | GCi and GSoC are two formal programs to help students get involved with free and open source communities |
| 21:13.24 | valorie | but most people just start helping out on their own |
| 21:13.27 | valorie | like me |
| 21:13.36 | valorie | is not even a coder |
| 21:13.57 | Kevin_ | Yea I found a website that helps to find open source programs |
| 21:14.33 | Kevin_ | are people with the @ mods? |
| 21:15.14 | valorie | yes |
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| 21:15.32 | valorie | although my client uses dots with colors instead of @ |
| 21:16.05 | widp | Freso: thanks for that, I probably should have started there. |
| 21:16.06 | valorie | is with KDE and Kubuntu, a linux distribution |
| 21:16.12 | Kevin_ | oh its probably because im using a browser |
| 21:16.25 | Kevin_ | But yea I found an organization called Mono |
| 21:16.30 | Kevin_ | and like I seen their issues |
| 21:16.30 | valorie | just try to fix or improve some software you already love |
| 21:16.33 | Kevin_ | and it looks scary |
| 21:16.48 | Kevin_ | like its stuff that I never even heard of |
| 21:17.06 | valorie | that is the most successful route because you are already loving the software |
| 21:17.42 | Kevin_ | To be honest I just found Mono a few mins ago lool through some website that helps people find open source programs |
| 21:17.55 | Kevin_ | but like i want to do something with snapchat |
| 21:18.06 | Kevin_ | like i wanted to add a feature |
| 21:18.07 | valorie | we like our GSoC students to work on projects they LOVE |
| 21:18.12 | Kevin_ | but i heard its not open sourc |
| 21:18.14 | Kevin_ | source* |
| 21:18.16 | valorie | not just that they have skill or whatever |
| 21:18.44 | valorie | right, not really possible to contribute to closed source stuff unless the company hires you to do so |
| 21:18.54 | valorie | that's what the difference is |
| 21:18.55 | Kevin_ | Ohhh |
| 21:19.03 | Kevin_ | So now ik how things works |
| 21:19.15 | Kevin_ | So those software engineers are working in a closed source company |
| 21:19.17 | Kevin_ | or something |
| 21:19.20 | valorie | yep, think of trying to improve Windows |
| 21:19.32 | valorie | you cannot unless you are hired by Microsoft |
| 21:19.47 | Kevin_ | but lool the only language I know is C, so I have limitations |
| 21:19.48 | valorie | you want to contribute a patch to Plasma? great |
| 21:20.08 | valorie | if you already know C you have a huge advantage |
| 21:20.19 | valorie | and can build on that depending on your interests |
| 21:20.24 | Kevin_ | but how do you learn the stuff they do |
| 21:20.32 | Kevin_ | like actually i wanted to do a side project |
| 21:20.33 | valorie | by trying |
| 21:20.39 | Kevin_ | ohh |
| 21:20.40 | valorie | and messing up sometimes |
| 21:20.44 | valorie | and fixing that |
| 21:20.53 | valorie | just like you learned to ride a bike |
| 21:21.47 | Kevin_ | damn |
| 21:21.49 | Kevin_ | it looks fun |
| 21:21.55 | valorie | 'tis |
| 21:22.06 | valorie | most of us do this for zero money |
| 21:22.11 | valorie | because it's fun |
| 21:22.44 | valorie | of course lots of people get jobs because they get credit for their work, and people love it |
| 21:22.56 | valorie | even for closed source stuff |
| 21:23.55 | Kevin_ | But i need help to get started |
| 21:24.16 | valorie | so if you are not using FOSS software, start |
| 21:24.42 | valorie | if you like video, use kdenlive -- playing videos, use VLC |
| 21:24.51 | valorie | writing, use libreoffice |
| 21:24.59 | valorie | painting, Krita |
| 21:25.08 | valorie | editing photos, the GIMP |
| 21:25.11 | valorie | etc. |
| 21:25.25 | valorie | use stuff, find issues, and help fix 'em |
| 21:25.31 | valorie | others will help you |
| 21:25.41 | Kevin_ | ohhhh |
| 21:26.01 | valorie | if you are not already running linux, find a distro you like and start |
| 21:26.21 | valorie | loves Kubuntu but there are loads of choices |
| 21:27.19 | Kevin_ | Would i have to dual boot for linux |
| 21:27.19 | valorie | every new thing you do, you'll learn something |
| 21:27.33 | valorie | you can dual boot if you choose |
| 21:27.43 | valorie | or you can run in a virtual machine |
| 21:28.08 | valorie | of course I do it the other way -- VM with windows right now because an application I need is only available there |
| 21:28.16 | Kevin_ | Ohh |
| 21:28.24 | Kevin_ | any specific vm's you recommend me to use |
| 21:28.44 | valorie | I use virtualbox but there are others |
| 21:28.53 | Kevin_ | ohh oracles right? |
| 21:29.05 | valorie | I recommend only using VMs for testing |
| 21:29.14 | valorie | when you find something you like, install it |
| 21:29.14 | Kevin_ | i think we used that in comp engineering class |
| 21:29.21 | Kevin_ | Im somewhat familiar with it |
| 21:29.35 | Kevin_ | like would you need a heavy machine to run an OS |
| 21:29.36 | valorie | no clue about oracle, another closed source bohemoth |
| 21:29.43 | Kevin_ | lool |
| 21:30.08 | valorie | not Kubuntu -- I ran it on a little ATOM netbook before I gave it to my little nephew |
| 21:30.28 | Kevin_ | Like is 8gb, 128 ssd, and 15 7th gen fine |
| 21:30.36 | Kevin_ | i5* |
| 21:30.49 | valorie | all I know is that win 10 runs fine in VB |
| 21:31.05 | valorie | and so does the two apps I have on it (besides chrome) |
| 21:31.31 | valorie | this is all within Kubuntu |
| 21:31.44 | Kevin_ | ohh |
| 21:34.14 | Kevin_ | wait mozilla |
| 21:34.17 | Kevin_ | is an open source |
| 21:34.19 | Kevin_ | program right |
| 21:34.42 | Kevin_ | like the browser mozilla |
| 21:36.03 | terri | mozilla firefox is open source, yes! |
| 21:36.07 | valorie | yes |
| 21:36.32 | valorie | so is chromium, but I needed some of the chrome extensions for various genealogy sites I use |
| 21:36.49 | valorie | and those are not free and open source |
| 21:36.59 | valorie | already using windows, so...... |
| 21:37.25 | valorie | mozilla is a company based on free and open source, yes |
| 21:37.39 | valorie | they make more than just firefox |
| 21:49.29 | Kevin_ | Oh i see |
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