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| 05:04.03 | pappukr4444 | Help- I try Register for GSoC But it gives there was error message. any help |
| 05:04.34 | meflin | what error? |
| 05:05.09 | pappukr4444 | there was error |
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| 05:05.50 | meflin | check that you filled everything out |
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| 05:10.51 | olly | pappukr4444: or if you actually want us to be able to help, tell us what the error message says |
| 05:16.28 | pappukr4444 | in the your details stage i fill the all information correctly but it gives there was error message. |
| 05:19.32 | olly | oh, the message is "there was an error"? |
| 05:20.07 | olly | i'd look for a highlight next to one of the fields |
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| 05:28.27 | utkarsh_ | Hello there, I wanted to ask whether I can write my middle name together with my first name for registration, if not, where should I write the same? |
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| 05:46.05 | valorie | pfff |
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| 05:55.38 | pappukr4444 | what is solution of Ping timeout ? |
| 05:57.00 | valorie | get a better connection/client/get a bouncer |
| 05:57.07 | valorie | depending on the cause |
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| 08:29.09 | mojca | Is it ok to request zero slots for the org? |
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| 09:03.45 | kblin | mojca: sure, if you didn't have any good applicants |
| 09:04.46 | kblin | I think I've done that before for one of the orgs I mentored |
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| 09:15.40 | mojca | kblin: Thank you. Apart from those that are a clear no, there is one borderline application (ok, but not really standing out). The student seems capable of doing it, but would need to learn a lot |
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| 09:52.06 | kblin | mojca: my personal experience is that students where I thought "meh" during the application process are the ones most likely to drop out during GSoC |
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| 12:42.39 | kappa1 | I did a proposal, but another student had already a proposal for that same project/idea... Is this OK? |
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| 12:53.31 | mojca | kappa1: there's nothing wrong with that per se |
| 12:54.02 | mojca | if one of proposals doesn't meet the quality standards, it's absolutely no problem |
| 12:54.22 | kappa1 | I believe they both meet |
| 12:54.27 | mojca | if both proposals are outstanding, it's up to the org to decide |
| 12:54.50 | mojca | it's usually a bad idea to let two people work on the same thing since only one code will eventually be used |
| 12:54.56 | mojca | it's wasting resources |
| 12:55.37 | kappa1 | ok |
| 12:55.46 | kappa1 | and the mentor does not have a say on that right? |
| 12:55.56 | mojca | if I had two outstanding students, I would ask them if one was willing to work on something else |
| 12:56.31 | mojca | mentor is the one who decides which project(s) to fit in the given slots |
| 12:56.56 | mojca | I mean: all mentors together |
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| 12:58.52 | kappa1 | ok I see |
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| 13:29.22 | gsbt | Hi! I won't show up as enrolled until later in April. So I cannot submit proof of eligibility until later. What should I be doing in the mean time? |
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| 13:33.13 | intrigus | !faq |
| 13:33.13 | gsocbot | intrigus: https://g.co/gsoc/faq |
| 13:34.12 | intrigus | !timeline |
| 13:34.13 | gsocbot | intrigus: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline |
| 13:34.39 | intrigus | gsbt: When exactly? |
| 13:34.51 | intrigus | (Are you getting enrolled) |
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| 13:35.03 | gsbt | intrigus: April 2 |
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| 13:54.20 | gsbt | intrigus: I did get an official transcript in the mean time that says in progress and "Spring 2018", but no specific dates. I'll send this and hope for the best. Thanks! |
| 13:55.08 | intrigus | gsbt: If I understand the rules correctly you need to be enrolled by April 23 16:00 UTC. |
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| 13:59.15 | gsbt | @intrigus correct. The official proof of enrollments page says that I still need dates on the transcript, but mine only says "Spring 2018". But I've gone ahead and submitted, and I'll re-submit after April 2 if they end up needing another verification. |
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| 14:16.00 | Ahmed_ | Hello |
| 14:16.05 | Ahmed_ | is there anybody here ? |
| 14:16.09 | jn__ | yes |
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| 14:25.50 | Ahmed_ | actually I have a problem |
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| 14:27.00 | Ahmed_ | I can not extract the proof of enrollment actually , the administration of the college really sucks and they are so bureaucratic |
| 14:27.18 | Ahmed_ | and it's located in another city which I have to travel to to get this proof |
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| 14:30.23 | jn__ | Ahmed_: upload *something* that could be considered a proof of enrollment (such as a photo/scan of your student identification card) before the deadline. you'll be able to change it later if necessary |
| 14:30.26 | jn__ | !proof |
| 14:30.27 | gsocbot | jn__: If you have questions about whether your document is acceptable, don't ask on IRC or on public mailing lists, just upload it to the site. If it is not acceptable, we will ask you to upload a different document within a specified time frame. You will receive an email when your form has been approved. |
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| 14:31.06 | jn__ | Ahmed_: (assuming you have a chance of traveling to that other city) |
| 14:32.03 | Ahmed_ | that's helps , thanks |
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| 16:01.41 | shaggy | hi |
| 16:02.10 | Kingnolo | Hi shaggy |
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| 16:33.58 | gsocbot | gsbt: Student Application Ends March 27, 2018 |
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| 18:40.28 | tobra_ | I read on an earlier release of the rules that I have to be enrolled by the end of the application period. Now as Iâm reading the details, the stated date is April 23. My problem is that I am only enrolled until March 31 (which is also the date shown on any proof of enrollment that I could provide). Does that mean I don't fulfill the requirements? |
| 18:42.07 | tobra_ | That would be quite regrettable, because I initially thought I was still within the requirement, because the application period terminates in a couple of hours⦠|
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| 18:51.35 | Robert_S | tobra_: The rules are the rules. |
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| 18:58.36 | tobra_ | Meh. That sucks⦠Guess I should have read more closely. Maybe make things even more explicit in the FAQ for next year? https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq#what_are_the_eligibility_requirements_for_participation |
| 19:00.05 | tobra_ | To silly me "student acceptance date" read more like "Student application deadline" than "Accepted student proposals announced". |
| 19:00.10 | Robert_S | tobra_: We'll look into that. What's not clear about student acceptance date? |
| 19:00.54 | tobra_ | well the simplest thing would be just to state the date explicitly in the relevant section⦠|
| 19:01.28 | Robert_S | tobra_: We try to keep things that change centralized so we don't forget to update them. |
| 19:01.40 | Robert_S | But we can link to it. |
| 19:03.34 | tobra_ | the rules are indeed more explicit, but why have a faq, when it doesn't provide one with clarity without consulting the rules⦠|
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| 19:05.29 | Robert_S | The FAQ is for extra detail or clarification. The rules are still the official text. |
| 19:06.54 | tobra_ | Robert_S sure⦠still not a good reason to make the faq confusing. people like me don't read the (relevant sections of the) rules, if they (in my case wrongfully) think they already learned about it from reading the faq. |
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| 19:07.25 | Robert_S | tobra_: We don't try and make it confusing. |
| 19:07.38 | Robert_S | In a few days, possibly less, the FAQ will link to the timeline to make it easier to figure out the student acceptance date. |
| 19:08.09 | tobra_ | "You must currently be a full or part-time student (or have been accepted and committed to the fall term) at an accredited university as of the date accepted student proposals are announced." |
| 19:09.27 | tobra_ | Robert_S ofc⦠still managed to confuse me ;-). |
| 19:09.52 | gsbt | @tobra Yeah that's definitely a typo, it does mention April 23 specifically in the Proof of verification section :D |
| 19:10.08 | Robert_S | April 23rd is when accepted student proposals are accepted. |
| 19:10.09 | Robert_S | announced |
| 19:10.18 | Robert_S | April 23 16:00 UTCAccepted student proposals announced |
| 19:10.48 | tobra_ | Robert_S yes. I just didn't parse "student acceptance date" as this date, but instead as the date when student applications are still accepted⦠|
| 19:13.53 | tobra_ | that's a technical term from the rules, that isn't explained in the faq (or at least not in the relevant section) and that Iâd argue it is ambiguous in natural language and in the context of the timeline. |
| 19:14.34 | Robert_S | tobra_: It's updated now. |
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| 19:23.10 | tobra_ | heads off https://memeguy.com/photos/images/mrw-i-walk-back-into-my-old-high-school-45175.gif |
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| 19:27.14 | Robert_S | Is anyone seeing weird math with the countdown on your dashboard? Should be ~21 hours left. |
| 19:27.20 | Robert_S | give or take an hour or two. |
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| 19:29.05 | klaxa | for me it says ~20 hours 30 minutes remaining |
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| 19:42.52 | olly | Robert_S: I don't see a countdown, but I'm an org admin so perhaps that's why |
| 19:43.23 | meflin | same here |
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| 19:45.03 | DoomsDay_ | lol |
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| 19:45.26 | meflin | DoomsDay_: did you have a gsoc question? |
| 19:46.25 | DoomsDay_ | no |
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| 20:13.57 | valorie | do we get no emails from the webapp? |
| 20:14.32 | valorie | I seem to remember some helpful stuff to help me sort through all the proposals I've read and commented on, and those coming in last minute |
| 20:14.46 | valorie | but a search of my email finds nothing |
| 20:18.52 | olly | valorie: there's an email setting in the profile for "Comment Updates Sent for every reply on a project you have commented on." |
| 20:19.38 | olly | i guess that's the org-private comment form in the webapp, not a comment on a google doc draft |
| 20:20.17 | meflin | olly: confirmed that there is such a setting ( first I knew ) |
| 20:20.55 | olly | i'm not getting new proposal notifications either (i don't remember if we did in the new web app previously or not) |
| 20:21.24 | meflin | that that shall not be named did not do so |
| 20:24.51 | Robert_S | Hrm. |
| 20:25.23 | olly | Robert_S: shouldn't that really be "Sent for every reply on a *proposal*" (not project)? |
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| 20:26.58 | sumedhe | I can't upload the proof of enrollment document. The upload button does not work after selecting the document.. |
| 20:28.21 | Robert_S | valorie: AFAICQT, you don't get emails about new proposals. It would be incredibly noisy. You do get comments for things where "you have marked want to mentor" |
| 20:29.21 | valorie | ok |
| 20:29.36 | olly | it was noisy with m*l*ng*, though without any notificiations you need to remember to poll your dashboard (or students need to know to prod you) |
| 20:29.51 | Robert_S | olly: Probably. I've just fixed the code. Will go live in the next push, whenever that is. |
| 20:29.59 | valorie | yes it would be noisy but silence and no indications of what I've read and commented on is really annoying |
| 20:30.00 | Robert_S | (Or maybe push after.) |
| 20:30.32 | Robert_S | valorie: I'm not sure that lots of emails are the best solution. I do agree that they're the obvious/default solution. |
| 20:30.38 | olly | Robert_S: cool, it's very minor |
| 20:30.48 | Robert_S | olly: That's why I just changed it. :) |
| 20:30.52 | valorie | maybe some colored dots on teh app itself or something |
| 20:30.59 | olly | perhaps a daily "there are new proposals you haven't looked at" mail |
| 20:31.04 | olly | though that's probably significant work |
| 20:31.09 | valorie | green for new and unseen, etc. |
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| 20:31.17 | gsocmahima | I jst got to know about Gsoc and i want to contribute in open source but i dont have any pervious experience in it |
| 20:31.27 | Robert_S | Keeping track of seen/unseen is hard. |
| 20:31.32 | olly | gsocmahima: most students don't have prior experience |
| 20:31.36 | meflin | !studentguide |
| 20:31.36 | gsocbot | meflin: https://g.co/gsoc/studentguide |
| 20:31.49 | valorie | Robert_S: I'm used to my browser doing it by changing the color of the links |
| 20:31.55 | valorie | but that doesn't happen in the app |
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| 20:32.49 | olly | gsocmahima: one of the main aims of gsoc is to get new people into working on open source projects after all |
| 20:32.59 | gsocmahima | Okay so since only one day is left ,shall i start looking for projects and communicate to mentor organizations |
| 20:33.23 | gsocmahima | will it be in anyway usefull now, as i m already late |
| 20:33.31 | Robert_S | valorie: Yeah, a:visited style is a KI. I've just raised the priority slightly. |
| 20:34.09 | olly | gsocmahima: the bulk of the proposals probably arrive after now, though many will have started work some time ago |
| 20:34.31 | olly | you're at a disadvantage if you only start this late, but it's probably possible |
| 20:34.44 | olly | if you're going to try, you definitely need to get on with it right away |
| 20:35.50 | gsocmahima | @olly thanks for the help |
| 20:35.56 | gsocmahima | i should probably now start looking |
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| 20:40.01 | gsocmahima | also i want to know how i might be getting my tasks ,or do i have to assign them to myself |
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| 20:43.05 | olly | gsocmahima: talk to the org you're interested in applying to |
| 20:43.51 | olly | they should have a list of project ideas you can choose from, but can help guide you if you're unsure what's suitable |
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| 20:46.14 | sume | Why can't I submit the proof of enrollment? The upload button is not working.. |
| 20:49.19 | valorie | !support @sume |
| 20:49.20 | gsocbot | @sume: If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 21:01.18 | sume | Do we need to upload the proof of enrollment document after 27th March? |
| 21:01.59 | Robert_S | You need to upload it before. |
| 21:04.18 | olly | if there's no proof uploaded before the student application deadline then your application isn't valid |
| 21:04.48 | sume | But I tried to upload it now. But the upload button does not work. Please help on this matter. |
| 21:05.23 | meflin | be as specific as possible |
| 21:08.35 | sume | I selected the document in PDF format. But the upload button is still inactive. I tried with PNG and JPG formats also. |
| 21:09.03 | Robert_S | Maybe you missed something else you had to do. |
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| 23:26.31 | amahustla | Hello! I newbie and have some questions related to Submitting Proposal for GSoC |
| 23:27.21 | amahustla | My question is: what is a draft in proposal? What should I write in my Google Doc Draft? |
| 23:28.24 | meflin | drafts are a work in progress and can be comented on, only final proposals are considered |
| 23:33.55 | amahustla | You mean that drafts are needed to comment my progress on a project? And I should not write anything in the draft while submitting my proposal? |
| 23:34.04 | olly | no |
| 23:34.12 | olly | you write your proposal and submit as a draft |
| 23:34.17 | olly | the org can then comment on it |
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| 23:34.20 | olly | and you can improve it |
| 23:34.39 | olly | repeat until happy, then submit a final version |
| 23:35.07 | olly | although at this point you may not get a review from the org as the deadline is < 24 hours away |
| 23:35.38 | olly | you don't have to submit a draft, but you're missing out on being able to improve your proposal |
| 23:36.01 | olly | plus orgs tend to prefer students who interact |
| 23:36.26 | amahustla | Okay, I see. Thank you very much! |
| 23:39.01 | olly | and the org can't see the final proposal until after the deadline |
| 23:39.05 | olly | so you won't get reviews on that |
| 23:39.33 | olly | if you haven't submitted a final version by the deadline you aren't eligible, and you can also update the final until the deadline |
| 23:39.50 | olly | so it makes sense to upload a final version early and revise it later if necessary |
| 23:40.27 | amahustla | I wanted to work on a project that recommended by orgs |
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