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| 01:25.00 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code 2018 | Organizations Announced! | https://g.co/gsoc |
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| 05:04.04 | aayushagra_ | Are GSOC applications reviewed only by the mentors or also by somebody else? |
| 05:17.06 | thiago | each org decides |
| 05:18.13 | aayushagra_ | So it's an internal decision by the org? I.e no approval from Google? |
| 05:19.31 | olly_ | aayushagra_: not as a matter of course |
| 05:19.42 | olly_ | they're able to look of course |
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| 10:59.48 | Sidd_ | hey guys |
| 11:00.02 | Sidd_ | any news about |
| 11:00.22 | Sidd_ | summar code 2018 |
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| 12:26.54 | kfriedberger | Hi. Is it allowed to use the official Google logo in |
| 12:27.03 | kfriedberger | advertising for GSoC? |
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| 12:47.36 | Umang | Hello |
| 12:48.03 | kfriedberger | Hi |
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| 12:48.59 | Umang | Hi |
| 12:53.02 | kfriedberger | Hello |
| 12:56.19 | teepee- | kfriedberger: yes, can be used, the resource page has the rules (basically no change except rescaling) |
| 12:56.43 | teepee- | wait, google, or gsoc logo? not sure about google logo actually |
| 12:59.01 | Umang | Can I take part in gsoc while working in a company? |
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| 13:02.20 | kfriedberger | @teepee: thanks for clarification |
| 13:04.55 | kfriedberger | we would like to use both, the official Google logo and the GSoC logo. |
| 13:06.02 | hector1816 | Hi, it's throwing me 403 error when I try to login to https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/ |
| 13:06.20 | hector1816 | Any idea how to fix this? |
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| 13:10.49 | gevaerts | hector1816: if that's as a student, I think that's normal (the application period isn't open yet). If that's as a mentor, I believe that's normal if you haven't been invited by the org admin. If you have, or if you are the org admin, I don't know |
| 13:14.47 | hector1816 | gevaerts, I'm a student. So, I guess it's normal then. Thanks for the information. :) |
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| 13:36.42 | _daniel_ | any idea if google can support the cost of buying hardware for the accepted project? |
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| 14:06.18 | teepee- | _daniel_: google provides the stipends for the students (and at least in the previous years $500 for each accepted project to the orgs) |
| 14:06.29 | teepee- | I don't think there's other options than that |
| 14:07.07 | _daniel_ | ok |
| 14:07.12 | _daniel_ | thanks |
| 14:07.33 | _daniel_ | i noticed that there is a mentor summit at the end of year |
| 14:07.36 | _daniel_ | what is that all about |
| 14:07.42 | _daniel_ | is every mentor invited? |
| 14:07.48 | teepee- | no, too many I guess |
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| 14:08.12 | teepee- | it's like 2 per org IIRC and sometimes there was a lottery for some additional lots |
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| 14:09.10 | Jaskirat_ | teepee-: lottery you mean by ? |
| 14:09.12 | teepee- | what it is about... meeting like minded people and share experience |
| 14:09.47 | teepee- | Jaskirat_: well, you register that you would like to join the summit in addition to the "normal" slots for the mentor summit |
| 14:09.58 | teepee- | and if you are lucky you can visit too |
| 14:10.53 | teepee- | but I don't know if that is happening every year, that has to be seen |
| 14:11.03 | Jaskirat_ | teepee-: but i think that is only decided by the org admins ....i guess so |
| 14:11.07 | teepee- | could be even totally different this year, I did not check yet |
| 14:11.52 | teepee- | the org admins will probably have some say in distributing the official slots, the lottery was independent |
| 14:12.06 | teepee- | also it's probably month too early to have a long discussion about it :D |
| 14:12.16 | Jaskirat_ | teepee-: oh yeah !!! |
| 14:12.42 | Jaskirat_ | But i am not able to get it the difference in slot and lottery as per your saying !! |
| 14:13.05 | Slurpee | Quick search query on Google for "GSoC Mentor Summit" provided all sorts of information.... https://opensource.googleblog.com/2017/11/google-summer-of-code-2017-mentor-summit.html https://sites.google.com/view/2017gsocmentorsummit/ |
| 14:16.11 | Jaskirat_ | Slurpee: thanks |
| 14:17.52 | teepee- | yeah, that search engine they have is not bad either :D |
| 14:18.21 | Jaskirat_ | Yup ! |
| 14:19.12 | gevaerts | It was better in the old days though! |
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| 14:21.47 | teepee- | :) |
| 14:24.24 | robstat7 | Hi. As on March 5, I have submitted 3 patches in which two got merged and one is under review and one of the merged one was just a single line addition. Now should I fix more bugs or should I look for a project idea for proposal? |
| 14:28.09 | teepee- | robstat7: that sounds like a question to the specific org |
| 14:28.54 | robstat7 | teepee: is there any minimum number of patches to be submitted as the part of contributing? |
| 14:29.02 | teepee- | but as general note, having 2 patches merged already is a nice result |
| 14:29.20 | teepee- | robstat7: not from google side as far as I know. the org could have specific rules though |
| 14:29.32 | robstat7 | teepee: But one of the patch (my initial one) was nothing but just one line addition :( |
| 14:30.51 | robstat7 | Hopefully my third patch will be merged in two days. Now I have doubt about choosing a project. |
| 14:31.24 | robstat7 | Which project should I choose - one that interest me or the one that is important to the organization? |
| 14:32.11 | teepee- | I can't speak for other orgs, but usually any contribution is welcome. otherwise the topics/tasks would not be there |
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| 14:33.11 | teepee- | I personally suggest to select projects that are not too difficult, maybe a bit challenging - there's a mentor to help later |
| 14:33.46 | teepee- | e.g. if you just started coding in a language, don't select a topic marked as very hard |
| 14:37.04 | robstat7 | After selecting a project, how should I go on as I'm not getting any idea how to plan the timeline for it and how will I actually code for it? What should I do then |
| 14:38.27 | teepee- | latest next week (when studen application starts), I'd expect the mentors of the project to be available for discussion of all those topics |
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| 14:38.46 | teepee- | I guess most are available already and waiting to be contacted :) |
| 14:40.08 | robstat7 | Thank you teepee. One last question - I have doubt - 1)What should I do now in this one week before application period start? |
| 14:40.38 | teepee- | talk to the org you seem to have pretty much selected already |
| 14:40.56 | teepee- | here you can only find general info |
| 14:41.17 | teepee- | they can give you specific advise on expectations |
| 14:42.03 | robstat7 | I'm afraid what should I ask them or how should I throw a discussion? |
| 14:44.23 | teepee- | they really should expect questions from students, so no need to worry |
| 14:46.03 | robstat7 | This is the final doubt- How to find in which project my organization is interested? I mean how could I know that? |
| 14:46.36 | teepee- | there has to be a link from the gsoc page to the project list |
| 14:46.44 | robstat7 | yes |
| 14:46.53 | robstat7 | but there are multiple ideas |
| 14:47.04 | teepee- | it would be strange if the org put up topics they are not interested in |
| 14:47.36 | robstat7 | Do you mean all the ideas on the idea list are EQUALLY important to the organization? |
| 14:48.21 | teepee- | I don't know if equally, but I certainly hope that they are 100% happy to get any of those selected |
| 14:49.12 | robstat7 | Thank you so much teepee. It really really helped me. Thank you so much. |
| 14:49.20 | madi[m] | Hi robstat7 , I think you shouldn't choose an idea based on the degree of importance but rather on how the proposed projects reflect your skills |
| 14:50.18 | teepee- | yes, interrest and good chance of getting it done well would be much more important in my personal view |
| 14:51.21 | robstat7 | Thank you. I got you madi[m] and teepee :) |
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| 19:05.27 | km6102 | Hi, My name is manjit. I want to know what skill level is required for gsoc~ |
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| 19:39.35 | intrigus | I love people that ask a question and almost immediately leave... |
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| 19:51.51 | sitta | meflin: Hello there. I have a question and I thought about asking to ask first. |
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| 19:56.28 | perepujal | sitta: if it is about gsoc just ask |
| 20:01.38 | sitta | it's about gsoc |
| 20:02.12 | meflin | hi |
| 20:03.18 | sitta | So, I would to participate on the gsoc program but not to get paid or anything. I read from previous participants that if you don't accept payment then it's easier to manage. So, could I do that. Could I take part but also on my own speed? Or something like that? |
| 20:03.22 | sitta | meflin: hey hey |
| 20:04.18 | blast007 | you don't need GSoC to contribute to an open-source project |
| 20:04.31 | sitta | ofc I don't. But I would like to (: |
| 20:04.39 | sitta | to be part of it I mean |
| 20:05.08 | sitta | oh btw, I really don't know if there is payment evolved. I hope there isn't. That would make things a lot easier. |
| 20:05.37 | meflin | there is and timelines |
| 20:06.02 | sitta | meflin: there is payment? Is this the only way to be part of gsoc? |
| 20:06.39 | meflin | its part of the program ... I guess?? you dont have to take but its provided |
| 20:07.13 | sitta | i see. thanks (: |
| 20:07.16 | olly | I think sitta wins a prize for asking to ask to ask |
| 20:07.29 | sitta | i want a cookie please |
| 20:08.01 | olly | just visit pretty much any website these days... |
| 20:08.15 | sitta | no... i mean !cookie |
| 20:08.18 | sitta | !cookie |
| 20:08.19 | gsocbot3 | sitta: omnomnom |
| 20:08.29 | sitta | yis |
| 20:08.58 | olly | I think ospo people have said before that you can't do GSoC without taking the stipend |
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| 20:09.16 | olly | but you could email support |
| 20:09.34 | sitta | sure. will probably do |
| 20:09.37 | sitta | thanks |
| 20:09.45 | olly | if you don't want payment and want to do it at your own speed, then really just find an interesting project and get involved |
| 20:09.58 | sitta | hmm true.. |
| 20:10.18 | sitta | I just thought that was an option at the gsoc program |
| 20:11.03 | olly | the main difference is a t-shirt (assuming you're somewhere that they can sensibly send t-shirts to) |
| 20:11.29 | sitta | there is T-shirt involved too? noice.. |
| 20:14.09 | olly | if you become a mentor, there may even be socks involved |
| 20:14.24 | sitta | That is what I call a motive |
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| 21:01.59 | sitta | I feel heavy metal |
| 21:02.01 | sitta | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbBvKaM6sk |
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| 21:03.29 | achillion | olly: I was seduced by the promise of socks, yet I have no gsocks to show |
| 21:03.58 | olly | hmm, i have 4 now |
| 21:04.15 | olly | a pair of the white ones and a pair of the blue ones |
| 21:04.51 | achillion | I'll be filing an official complaint, then |
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| 21:12.28 | Pinax | hi |
| 21:12.44 | Pinax | is anybody there ! |
| 21:12.55 | blast007 | lots of people |
| 21:13.48 | Pinax | oh ! thanks iam new here |
| 21:14.45 | Pinax | you are from which country |
| 21:15.07 | blast007 | do you have a question about Google Summer of Code or Google Code-in? |
| 21:15.39 | Pinax | yes ! pls guide me through it will you ! |
| 21:15.48 | blast007 | !studentguide |
| 21:15.48 | gsocbot3 | blast007: https://g.co/gsoc/studentguide |
| 21:15.53 | blast007 | Pinax: ^ |
| 21:17.03 | Pinax | okay got it ! basically i want to ask that ho wshould we contribute to an organisation to fullfill its selection criteria |
| 21:17.30 | olly | ask the org - they set their own selection criteria |
| 21:17.58 | Pinax | ask through mail ? |
| 21:18.10 | olly | ask by whatever means they give to contact them |
| 21:18.29 | olly | each org page on the summer of code site has contact details |
| 21:18.48 | Pinax | got it thanks ! you are from which country by the way ! |
| 21:21.04 | Pinax | what is the role of github in contributing ? |
| 21:21.42 | blast007 | not all projects use github. not all projects use git, even. |
| 21:22.28 | Pinax | okay ! is language is important ? |
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| 21:24.45 | olly | you need to be able to code in the programming langauge(s) the project involves |
| 21:25.29 | olly | and you need to be able to communicate usefully with the mentors, so undestanding a common human language is necessary |
| 21:26.14 | olly | also the summer of code site itself is all in English, so you need to be able to understand that well enough to work the site |
| 21:26.43 | Pinax | i am a human though and understand it well |
| 21:27.42 | olly | i mean if you only spoke french and the mentor only spoke swahili you'd struggle |
| 21:28.21 | Pinax | fine! got you |
| 21:28.50 | Pinax | where can i get a sample gsoc project ,or something like that ! |
| 21:29.08 | olly | read the guide you were already pointed to |
| 21:29.28 | olly | that has a couple |
| 21:30.08 | Pinax | thanks ! |
| 21:30.35 | Pinax | you are from where by the way ! |
| 21:31.10 | olly | nz |
| 21:31.41 | Pinax | ok ! i am from india ! |
| 21:35.45 | Pinax | how many organisations one can choose ! |
| 21:36.41 | olly | that's answered on the front page of the website |
| 21:37.46 | Pinax | are you also applying for the first time ! |
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| 21:39.24 | olly | no, i've been involved since 2008 |
| 21:39.58 | Pinax | so are you a google employee ! |
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| 21:41.06 | olly | no |
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| 21:44.51 | Pinax | does one require a good coding skill in gsoc ! |
| 21:45.32 | valorie | yes |
| 21:46.30 | valorie | you will build your skill, but you will need to be good already to be chosen |
| 21:47.14 | valorie | Pinax: are you already connected to the org you want to work with? |
| 21:47.24 | valorie | that is the important part |
| 21:47.55 | valorie | if not, contact the org now and get to know your probable mentor(s) |
| 21:48.25 | Pinax | i am not thanks a lot <@valorie> ! |
| 21:48.32 | valorie | set up your coding environment, find and fix some bugs, and work on your proposal |
| 21:49.00 | Pinax | are you on facebook ! it will be good to contact you |
| 21:49.04 | valorie | not everyone who applies is chosen |
| 21:49.12 | valorie | I am, but I don't use it much |
| 21:49.17 | valorie | IRC is the place |
| 21:49.46 | Pinax | yes but i may not find you ! much ....it is such a large place ... |
| 21:50.14 | valorie | IRC is not so good for one to one conversation |
| 21:50.20 | valorie | it's better to use the channels |
| 21:50.49 | Pinax | please if you can give me your fb name ... |
| 21:51.06 | valorie | if you can figure it out, fine |
| 21:51.16 | valorie | but no, that is not on-topic here |
| 21:52.38 | Pinax | i want to know more abt gsoc ! irc i think is a very large place ...so idid thought that fb would be fine .....if you can pls ? |
| 21:53.00 | intrigus | What do you want to know about gsoc Pinax? |
| 21:53.02 | valorie | no, this is the channel for gsoc |
| 21:54.24 | Pinax | fine ! thanks no problem <@valorie> |
| 21:54.57 | valorie | Pinax: you don't have to use @ |
| 21:55.01 | Pinax | so at first i shall contact the organisation right ? |
| 21:55.08 | valorie | if you use my name, i"m highlighted |
| 21:55.11 | valorie | yes |
| 21:55.27 | valorie | that is first thing -- well, after reading the student guide |
| 21:55.55 | valorie | !studentguide |
| 21:55.55 | gsocbot3 | valorie: https://g.co/gsoc/studentguide |
| 21:56.08 | Pinax | hey , one more thing what should we focus more on to get selected by an organisation ! |
| 21:56.24 | valorie | fix some bugs, as I said |
| 21:56.41 | valorie | get onto their IRC/discord/slack/telegram/whatever |
| 21:56.59 | valorie | and ask about any problems getting the bug fixed |
| 21:57.26 | valorie | and then work with them to develop your proposal |
| 21:57.54 | Pinax | this should be done till 12th march ? |
| 21:57.59 | valorie | a kickass proposal is the most important step you can take to getting selected |
| 21:58.22 | valorie | !timeline | Pinax |
| 21:58.22 | gsocbot3 | valorie: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline |
| 21:58.42 | Pinax | please can you explain a bit about the prposal ? |
| 21:59.18 | valorie | http://teom.org/blog/kde/how-to-write-a-kick-ass-proposal-for-google-summer-of-code/ |
| 22:00.04 | valorie | in KDE we have specific guidelines and I think most other orgs do as well |
| 22:00.22 | Pinax | really thanks a lot <@valorie> ,will you be there at this channel till gsoc lasts ? |
| 22:00.33 | valorie | I'm sure there are newer guides to writing a proposal as well |
| 22:00.46 | valorie | Pinax: I'm always in this channel, lol |
| 22:01.14 | Pinax | really you helped me very much ! thanks a lot ... |
| 22:01.22 | valorie | you are most welcome |
| 22:01.54 | Pinax | for now i should reach out organisations ... |
| 22:02.22 | valorie | yes |
| 22:02.34 | Pinax | but when i need how can i contact you at this channel <@valorie> |
| 22:02.34 | valorie | and read read read |
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| 22:03.03 | valorie | as I said, when you type my name I am highlighted |
| 22:03.38 | valorie | if you just type v<tab> it's even easier |
| 22:03.56 | valorie | however, no need to do that; many people here will answer your questions |
| 22:05.22 | Pinax | really thanks a lot , i didn t got anyone except you answered my problems so brilliantly ! |
| 22:05.47 | valorie | Pinax: you stuck around |
| 22:05.55 | valorie | many students ask and then disappear |
| 22:06.08 | valorie | and never see the answer to their questions |
| 22:06.24 | valorie | so if you use IRC - always have patience |
| 22:07.00 | Pinax | i am an undergrad student from india , and appearing for the first time ,thats why ! |
| 22:07.05 | valorie | by the way, blast007 also answered you |
| 22:07.32 | valorie | as did olly |
| 22:07.55 | valorie | the better your questions are, the more likely you are to get good answers |
| 22:07.58 | valorie | :-) |
| 22:09.25 | intrigus | I also said something :P |
| 22:09.43 | valorie | thanks, intrigus |
| 22:10.03 | Pinax | so when in doubt irc suits well , i think ! |
| 22:10.04 | valorie | I like your nick, intrigus |
| 22:11.52 | Pinax | is github is also required for it ? |
| 22:12.03 | valorie | some orgs use it |
| 22:12.07 | valorie | many do not |
| 22:12.10 | valorie | KDE does not |
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| 22:12.32 | Robert_S | did I miss anything? |
| 22:12.37 | Robert_S | :) |
| 22:13.39 | Pinax | thanks ! |
| 22:13.55 | valorie | Robert_S: nope! |
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| 22:14.25 | Robert_S | valorie: Always good news. |
| 22:15.20 | valorie | well, we're moving along on One More Year of Awesome |
| 22:15.23 | valorie | right? |
| 22:15.31 | Robert_S | Right! |
| 22:16.10 | olly | omya |
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