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| 14:50.04 | anubhav | hello can anybody help me out? |
| 14:50.35 | meflin | with? |
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| 14:51.05 | anubhav | gsoc like how to participate and how to contribute |
| 14:51.16 | PulkoMandy | !studentguide | anubhav |
| 14:51.17 | gsocbot | anubhav: "studentguide" is https://g.co/gsoc/studentmanual |
| 14:51.18 | PulkoMandy | start here |
| 14:51.34 | PulkoMandy | (if done already, you probably have more specific questions) |
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| 14:53.00 | anubhav | basically i have read it. i want to ask when to start contributing and another problem is that i cant select a project from a selected oraganisation. |
| 14:53.38 | anubhav | like i am not experienced with all the the technologies |
| 14:53.38 | PulkoMandy | for now you can't officially apply to GSoC yet |
| 14:53.54 | PulkoMandy | but, you can still contribute to an open source project of your choice |
| 14:53.54 | meflin | only you can decide what project you find interesting ... its never to early to contribute to open source and doing so will help you |
| 14:54.00 | anubhav | i want to start to contribute earlier |
| 14:54.15 | PulkoMandy | the best way to go is to look at open source software you use or you think you could use |
| 14:54.32 | anubhav | how to select project?i am a competitive programmer and done some small projects |
| 14:54.44 | PulkoMandy | if you know the software well enough, you will probably find something that can be improved |
| 14:54.51 | meflin | find something interesting to you |
| 14:55.18 | PulkoMandy | we can't help you on deciding which project to chose (well I could advertise mine but that would be biased). It's a personal quest |
| 14:56.00 | anubhav | @pulkoMandy for which org you work for? |
| 14:56.08 | PulkoMandy | www.haiku-os.org |
| 14:56.09 | anubhav | i am java programer |
| 14:56.17 | PulkoMandy | well, this is C++ :) |
| 14:56.36 | anubhav | oh! :/ |
| 14:57.11 | anubhav | the main problem is i cant select a project.Should i select it randomly? |
| 14:57.36 | PulkoMandy | no, not randomly. As said above, find something that you could use |
| 14:57.37 | anubhav | i dont like web development what else i can do with java? |
| 14:57.52 | anubhav | what software apache makes? |
| 14:57.55 | PulkoMandy | probably many things |
| 14:58.02 | anubhav | like? |
| 14:58.06 | meflin | you have lots of time to try projects out |
| 14:58.15 | PulkoMandy | I once worked for a company who does Java for embedded devices (not open source however) |
| 14:58.27 | PulkoMandy | big enterprise database stuff, android apps, ⦠|
| 14:58.31 | PulkoMandy | lots of things use Java |
| 14:58.49 | anubhav | okay i am interested in database stuffs |
| 14:58.57 | PulkoMandy | also, if you start researching now, you could even have enough time to learn another language if needed |
| 14:59.18 | anubhav | and since this is not for gsoc should i send a mail to the org that i want to contribute? |
| 15:00.00 | PulkoMandy | so, look at previous year GSoC project lists (they have tags to help categorize the projects) or look at software repositories (github, ...) for something that you find interesting |
| 15:00.11 | anubhav | like i know c++ but no idea about os can i contribute to your org? |
| 15:01.32 | PulkoMandy | probably. We have people who are not programmers at all and yet are very important contributors: translating the OS, writing documentation, making good bug reports and triaging them, maintaining our website (which is not C++), writing "side-project" python and java apps, etc |
| 15:01.47 | PulkoMandy | but, the main question is: do you find the project somewhat useful and relevant? |
| 15:02.24 | PulkoMandy | there are hundreds of projects doing GSoC and thousands more who may apply for it if they have a good student (maybe you) already contributing and willing to apply for it |
| 15:02.54 | PulkoMandy | so, just look at that list of projects, and find something that you think is useful. Or fun. Or both. Or whatever motivates you for working on it |
| 15:03.06 | anubhav | okay |
| 15:03.35 | anubhav | since this i want to start now should i mail the org that i want to contribute after choosing projects? |
| 15:04.06 | meflin | or just fix a bug and submit that |
| 15:04.11 | anubhav | yes i want to give a try to your organisation what should i do now? |
| 15:04.13 | PulkoMandy | There is no formal process for joining the project usually. Just join their mailing list or IRC channel or whatever they use to communicate. Listen for a while to see how discussions are done. Try to compile their code and report if you find their documentation on how to do that is not complete/up to date |
| 15:04.53 | PulkoMandy | then yes, start trying to fix a bug that bothers you, if needed ask for help where appropriate (you will know by then if you watched how people interact on IRC/mailing lists/bugtracker/...) |
| 15:05.11 | PulkoMandy | iterate until you are a project member, basically that's all |
| 15:05.49 | anubhav | where to find bug?actually i am totally new to this.Sorry for asking too much question |
| 15:06.05 | anubhav | what is project member how to be that? |
| 15:06.31 | PulkoMandy | you find bugs either by yourself when using the software and something doesn't work as expected |
| 15:06.43 | PulkoMandy | or, by looking at the project's bug tracker where people list bugs they encounter |
| 15:07.13 | PulkoMandy | as for "project members", each project is run in a different way. So you have to find out how it works in the specific project you decided to work on |
| 15:08.39 | anubhav | and how to know that if some bug is there and i made some change it is working or not? |
| 15:08.50 | PulkoMandy | in the case of Haiku for example, after fixing enough bugs, people get bored of reviewing the code you write, because it is always good on the first try. So, someone sends a proposal on our mailing list for making you a project member. If no one objects for 15 days, you become contributor and can make changes directly to our git repository, and also vote on important decisions on the project's development. But, each project is |
| 15:08.50 | PulkoMandy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.54 | anubhav | since the code is very big i cant compile it |
| 15:09.08 | PulkoMandy | of course you can compile it. Why not? |
| 15:09.35 | anubhav | like the main code is very huge |
| 15:09.58 | anubhav | will i be able to check it by compiling |
| 15:10.37 | PulkoMandy | yes |
| 15:11.01 | PulkoMandy | the worst project I worked with for that is webkit, it takes maybe 2 to 4 hours depending on the computer I use the first time I build it |
| 15:11.17 | PulkoMandy | but after that, if I change just one file, then it rebuilds just that file. So it is reasonably fast |
| 15:11.36 | anubhav | okay |
| 15:11.47 | PulkoMandy | and that is a very large and complex project |
| 15:11.58 | PulkoMandy | in most cases even the first build should be only a few minutes long |
| 15:12.05 | anubhav | can you give me the link where i can see the bugs posted by others in haiku? |
| 15:12.25 | PulkoMandy | http://dev.haiku-os.org |
| 15:12.53 | PulkoMandy | and more specifically https://dev.haiku-os.org/query |
| 15:13.19 | PulkoMandy | but looking at this without trying and knowing the software at least a little, it probably won't make much sense |
| 15:15.20 | anubhav | i saw there but i dont know about kernels and all how to know what can i solve |
| 15:16.32 | PulkoMandy | some projects have an "easy tasks" list to get started. But again, the best way is to use the software and discover your own problems with it |
| 15:16.53 | PulkoMandy | because that's the best way to really understand what the problem is |
| 15:17.09 | anubhav | ok |
| 15:17.12 | anubhav | thank you |
| 15:17.16 | anubhav | thanks a lot! |
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| 15:23.12 | paras | after choosing organistaion what i want to do |
| 15:23.49 | jn__ | paras: you write a proposal |
| 15:23.57 | jn__ | !studentguide | paras |
| 15:23.57 | gsocbot | paras: "studentguide" is https://g.co/gsoc/studentmanual |
| 15:25.02 | paras | okay thankuu |
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| 18:13.43 | Freso | samj1912: I know you're in here anyway. :) |
| 18:14.13 | samj1912 | is it alright to have a Q/A task to categorise say 10 tickets in JIRA into respective components/ do a ticket clean up? |
| 18:15.17 | Freso | valorie: Oh, I didn't realise KDE wasn't applying for GCI this year. :/ |
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| 18:24.34 | PulkoMandy | so that makes just two orgs competing for "longest continuous participation" in GCI? :'( |
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| 20:23.35 | valorie | yeah, I just don't have the energy to be the lead for it, and nobody else stepped up, so...... |
| 20:23.58 | valorie | rather disappointing, but if people are busy or too tired, that's life |
| 20:23.59 | meflin | GCI take a _lot_ of resources |
| 20:24.20 | PulkoMandy | have a nice winter break then :) |
| 20:28.11 | valorie | I have a few other hats I wear, so I will not be vacationing |
| 20:28.14 | valorie | :-) |
| 20:42.43 | Robert_S | Knit hats? |
| 20:46.53 | valorie | Robert_S: that is so last year! |
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| 20:51.41 | Robert_S | valorie: What's this year's style? |
| 20:55.29 | olly | crochet |
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| 23:59.22 | r0bby | olly: LOL! |