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| 03:33.39 | nelson-liu | !numapps |
| 03:33.39 | gsocbot | nelson-liu: "numapps" is 2016: 178/369 orgs; 1206/7543 proposals, 5107 students. 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 props, 4425 students. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 props, 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 props, 4144 students. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 props, 4258 students. 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 props, 3731 students. 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 props, 3464 students |
| 03:37.50 | nelson-liu | @meflin, it wouldn't be possible to see the number of accepted students for each university, right? Curious how many students from my school are participating. |
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| 03:53.49 | olly | nelson-liu: those stats should be published in due time, just be patient |
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| 03:57.32 | nelson-liu | great, thank you olly :) |
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| 05:37.05 | cfoch | may I say that the probability of being accepted is more than 60% ? |
| 05:37.12 | cfoch | *can |
| 05:37.40 | cfoch | ah, nvm |
| 05:38.20 | thiago | you want to know the probability of being accepted after the list of acceptance has been published? |
| 05:39.02 | cfoch | with historical data, that should be possible in theory |
| 05:39.35 | thiago | 1206 applications were accepted, out of 7543 submitted by 5107 students |
| 05:39.37 | thiago | you can do math |
| 05:39.50 | thiago | but it's less than 60% |
| 05:40.10 | cfoch | yup, I missunderstood the format of stats |
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| 05:45.26 | olly | cfoch: fundamentally, that's not how selection works though - orgs don't roll dice to select the students |
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| 05:46.15 | cfoch | yes, I know it |
| 05:46.41 | olly | the terrible proposals will never get selected |
| 05:46.44 | cfoch | but it is always interesting to look at things from the view of numbers |
| 05:47.13 | cfoch | I will apply next year |
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| 05:47.26 | cfoch | I want to do something really interesting. |
| 05:48.51 | valorie | sometimes poorly written proposals are selected when the student has already got a good track-record |
| 05:49.14 | valorie | and sometimes brilliant proposals languish because no mentor can be found |
| 05:49.30 | valorie | life isn't fair, and neither is GSoC |
| 05:49.45 | olly | certainly there's no guarantee of success |
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| 05:50.36 | olly | i'd be reluctant to take a terrible proposals even from someone with a track record |
| 05:50.58 | valorie | I think occasionally and maybe even often one student is chosen over another, and very soon after the work begins, the mentors and admins realize they really made a mistake |
| 05:51.03 | olly | sometimes returning gsoc students think they can coast through the second time |
| 05:51.08 | valorie | and let the best student get away |
| 05:51.29 | valorie | too bad we don't all have a working crystal ball |
| 05:52.02 | valorie | olly: it's bad enough when they show their arrogance by writing a crap proposal |
| 05:52.18 | valorie | it's much worse when they coast on their actual project |
| 05:53.58 | cfoch | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.03 | cfoch | I asked for feedback before submitting my proposal |
| 05:55.14 | cfoch | to my possible mentor |
| 05:55.29 | valorie | cfoch: you would be amazed |
| 05:55.44 | valorie | some students evidently spent all of ten minutes |
| 05:55.52 | valorie | others spent months |
| 05:55.59 | valorie | guess who got chosen? |
| 05:56.02 | valorie | :-) |
| 05:56.03 | terri | Our crap ones are typically just cut and pasted from the ideas page, no information to help us understand why this particular student would be good at this particular project |
| 05:58.16 | valorie | besides obvious spam ones like "create a new Facebook and make millions", we had one student who basically said, I've talked this over with the mentor and we're cool. I'm sure you don't want a copy/paste from the Ideas page, so just ping me when I've been selected. |
| 05:58.33 | valorie | ! |
| 05:58.57 | terri | ouch |
| 05:59.21 | valorie | you can believe I wanted to ping him all right |
| 05:59.25 | valorie | lol |
| 05:59.32 | terri | we also got some weird ones this year that were powerpoint presentations that seemed to have nothing to do with gsoc |
| 05:59.49 | valorie | strange |
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| 06:01.09 | bshah | probably show off.. but no one can beat me to write bad proposal.. "I want to work on porting plasmoids to plasma2" <- this was my Season of KDE proposal :p |
| 06:01.50 | terri | I dunno, it's hard to beat the Most Desirable Organization "proposal" ;) |
| 06:03.31 | terri | For those who haven't heard the story, some student sent hundreds of *mentor* applications in saying they were a student who wanted to work with "most desirable organization" -- the orgs were quite perplexed, especially when it turned out that everyone was getting these. |
| 06:03.55 | valorie | bshah: you were one of the "track record" students though |
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| 06:04.17 | valorie | and some SoK proposals are not well-done, yet the work is excellent |
| 06:04.35 | valorie | not very competitive, which makes a difference |
| 06:05.05 | valorie | terri: I remember hearing about that Most Desirable Org |
| 06:05.19 | valorie | oh so desirable |
| 06:05.30 | bshah | I've seen that proposal.. |
| 06:05.36 | olly | MDO even has stickers |
| 06:05.44 | valorie | <3 |
| 06:06.00 | valorie | and last I heard, a most desirable website |
| 06:06.16 | bshah | olly: show me show me |
| 06:06.45 | olly | not sure i have a pic to hand |
| 06:07.09 | bshah | lets Google! :P |
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| 06:07.14 | valorie | https://github.com/mostdesirable |
| 06:07.19 | valorie | probably there |
| 06:07.39 | terri | Don't forget the most desirable t-shirts! |
| 06:08.09 | valorie | issues: My unicorn is not farting rainbows. |
| 06:08.20 | terri | http://www.amazon.com/Womens-Shirt-Endorsement-Large-Navy/dp/B016E40JZ6 |
| 06:08.33 | bshah | https://code.google.com/archive/p/most-desirable-org/wikis/GSoC2014.wiki |
| 06:08.35 | bshah | xD |
| 06:09.22 | terri | I'm quite pleased by the GCI page, too: https://github.com/mostdesirable/most-desirable-org/wiki/Google-Code-In-(GCI)---2015---Ideas-Pages |
| 06:09.27 | valorie | wow, two verified purchasers |
| 06:09.34 | valorie | very suspicious names there |
| 06:10.18 | bshah | oh... gevaerts is one of contributor there.. xD |
| 06:10.43 | terri | hah, since I made someone else do data entry in the wiki, I'm not a contributor! no one will ever know! ... oh wait. ;) |
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| 06:11.03 | olly | shame the software isn't under the MDL |
| 06:11.15 | valorie | it sounds possible that some actual admin work was postponed to do Important Work for this Most Desirable Organization |
| 06:12.49 | terri | valorie: hey, the Most Desirable FAQ *was* totally Actual Admin Work: https://github.com/mostdesirable/most-desirable-org/wiki/GSoC-Org-Admin-FAQ |
| 06:13.18 | valorie | that's the page I was just reading |
| 06:13.23 | valorie | actually Good! |
| 06:13.35 | valorie | as if someone I know was doing the work |
| 06:13.39 | valorie | :-) |
| 06:14.24 | terri | valorie: there *may* have been a bet going on as to whether we could guess all the questoins in the q&a section before they were asked. ;) |
| 06:14.25 | valorie | nice idea to get a free website from github |
| 06:14.45 | valorie | is thinking someone got beers out of this |
| 06:14.51 | valorie | quite a few of them, in fact |
| 06:16.13 | terri | it's not quite as good at the Python FAQ which includes the "why does meflin always say no?" question. ;) |
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| 06:18.09 | olly | someone really got carried away - there's even an MDO "greatest hits" album |
| 06:18.14 | olly | http://www.amazon.com/MDO-Greatest-Hits-Mdo/dp/B00006H6BC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1461564766&sr=8-3&keywords=MDO |
| 06:18.18 | valorie | that question always makes me remember my art teacher who, when asked, but what color should I..... always answered "pink" |
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| 06:18.58 | valorie | olly: " |
| 06:19.01 | valorie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.05 | valorie | A variety of their best songs. |
| 06:19.08 | valorie | ¡If you buy it, you won't regret it! |
| 06:19.11 | valorie | " |
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| 06:22.34 | bshah | "<carols> stqism: we don't have house stark participating in gsoc this year." http://infobot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/20140314.html.gz xD |
| 06:24.18 | valorie | bshah: Summer is coming, not Winter@ |
| 06:24.40 | bshah | right.. Jon Snow is dead.. so summer is coming.. :P |
| 06:25.21 | thiago | Summer is Bran's direwolf |
| 06:25.26 | thiago | don't think he's coming |
| 06:25.43 | valorie | rofl |
| 06:25.49 | bshah | pff.. too many puns |
| 06:26.24 | valorie | you can't be a geek and hate puns! |
| 06:28.05 | olly | valorie: don't be hemispherist |
| 06:29.06 | valorie | rofl |
| 06:29.25 | bshah | I *think* we maybe going offtopic. :P |
| 06:29.40 | valorie | olly: I do often get my mind blown by Aussie/Kiwi friends |
| 06:30.06 | valorie | hmmm, who brought house stark into the conversation? |
| 06:30.11 | valorie | the MDO is official! |
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| 06:32.37 | terri | olly: if that album wasn't $50, I'd mail a copy to my favourite cranky co-admin |
| 06:37.23 | olly | terri: send him a second hand copy, ojn $93 |
| 06:37.25 | olly | *only |
| 06:38.23 | olly | terri: http://www.amazon.com/MDO-Greatest-Hits-5th-Anniversary/dp/B000063KRF/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_2 |
| 06:39.07 | terri | ooh |
| 06:40.53 | olly | valorie: i've been down here 8 years, and still find myself expect northern seasons sometimes |
| 06:41.37 | valorie | I don't know how I could adjust to Chrismas at the beach |
| 06:41.42 | valorie | christmas |
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| 06:51.05 | siaw | âYour Tax Form has been rejected. Reason: incompleteâ |
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| 06:51.15 | siaw | incomplete? i donât get it :) |
| 06:51.30 | olly | are there other fields you should have filled in? |
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| 06:53.00 | siaw | no |
| 06:53.14 | siaw | just signature, printed name, address, date |
| 06:53.18 | siaw | all filled |
| 06:55.29 | olly | email the support address then |
| 06:57.40 | siaw | just did that |
| 06:57.42 | siaw | thanks :) |
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| 07:41.42 | siaw | did you fill the student foreign certification? |
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| 08:51.12 | haris3301 | @vraman2811, Did you fill anything extra in the tax form? |
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| 09:44.31 | ubap | !numapps |
| 09:44.32 | gsocbot | ubap: "numapps" is 2016: 178/369 orgs; 1206/7543 proposals, 5107 students. 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 props, 4425 students. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 props, 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 props, 4144 students. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 props, 4258 students. 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 props, 3731 students. 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 props, 3464 students |
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| 12:31.40 | guyguy333 | Hi. Is there a way to get a review of our proposal in case it has not been selected ? (To know more details about reasons) |
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| 12:36.30 | gevaerts | guyguy333: the best thing would be to ask the organisation |
| 12:38.04 | |Kev| | guyguy333: If you want feedback, I would be inclined to frame it in terms of 'feedback on my application' rather than 'why wasn't I selected?'. Orgs might be happier to give feedback that way, but YMMV. |
| 12:38.32 | |Kev| | (I realise you didn't say the latter above) |
| 12:43.45 | guyguy333 | ok thank you |
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| 12:57.04 | |Kev| | YW. |
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| 13:23.25 | Neel_007 | !next |
| 13:23.26 | gsocbot | Neel_007: "next" is coding period starts on 23 May 2016. |
| 13:23.38 | Neel_007 | !stat |
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| 13:25.46 | Neel_007 | Hello Everybody, could anyone help me with the command for having the status (statistics of 2016 GSoC application and acceptance project). Thanks in advance! |
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| 13:28.44 | oddvar | !numapps |
| 13:28.44 | gsocbot | oddvar: "numapps" is 2016: 178/369 orgs; 1206/7543 proposals, 5107 students. 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 props, 4425 students. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 props, 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 props, 4144 students. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 props, 4258 students. 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 props, 3731 students. 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 props, 3464 students |
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| 13:54.48 | siaw | who got his Student Foreign Certification approved? |
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| 14:01.17 | Neel_007 | Thnaks @ oddvar |
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| 16:41.12 | divyanshu_r | hi!!! |
| 16:43.54 | oddvar | hi |
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| 17:03.48 | oddcoder | hello |
| 17:03.52 | oddcoder | regarding payoneer |
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| 17:04.10 | oddcoder | should I use the same email I used for gsoc ? |
| 17:04.24 | oddcoder | I usually use different email for money related things ..... |
| 17:06.40 | oddcoder | meflin: ? |
| 17:07.02 | meflin | I"m not sure |
| 17:07.36 | teepee | I can't answer that either, but did you really carefully read the info mails you got? |
| 17:08.18 | oddcoder | yes |
| 17:08.19 | oddcoder | > |
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| 17:10.52 | oddcoder | :O |
| 17:11.06 | oddcoder | You must use the email address associated with the Google account you use to log into the program website to complete your Payoneer registration. |
| 17:11.19 | oddcoder | teepee: thanks for pointing |
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| 17:26.16 | Neel_007 | For students who participated in the last year GSoC program we can use the same Payoneer account right? No need to register |
| 17:26.20 | Neel_007 | right |
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| 17:50.18 | haris3301 | What does "printed name" mean in the student foreign certification form? |
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| 17:52.38 | AlexP11223 | What if I already have another Payoneer account (with different e-mail, used some time ago for freelance on odesk)? Can/should I use it? |
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| 17:53.22 | blast007 | AlexP11223: what did the email tell you to do? |
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| 17:55.04 | qiubit | Did someone get an email from googlesoc@payoneer.com with registration link to payoneer that "links" my account to GSoC? Is this something official, because it looks fishy to me. |
| 17:55.08 | qiubit | ? |
| 17:55.59 | udiboy1209 | qiubit: I registered a payoneer account using that link already :O |
| 17:56.10 | divyanshu_r | hiii |
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| 17:56.16 | siaw | yes i just got an email fro payoneer |
| 17:56.26 | divyanshu_r | ok then |
| 17:56.42 | vraman2811 | I have a question for indian students |
| 17:57.22 | vraman2811 | which transfer option in payoneer is better USD or INR..? |
| 17:58.07 | siaw | vraman2811: i wanted to ask how you got your Student Foreign Certification approved |
| 17:58.25 | siaw | what else did you have to do apart from filling out name, date, signature and address? |
| 17:58.38 | vraman2811 | nothing more |
| 17:59.07 | vraman2811 | you have to scan and upload it.. that's all. mine got approved |
| 17:59.09 | AlexP11223 | blast007: it says that I must use the same email as in gsoc account, but it also says "If you have previously registered for Payoneer, and already have an account, just click on âAlready Have a Payoneer Accountâ", and it is not clear if email must match in this case. |
| 17:59.38 | siaw | vraman2811: so you print, fill it, scan and upload right? |
| 17:59.47 | haris3301 | vraman2811: what did you fill in "printed name" column? |
| 17:59.52 | vraman2811 | yes |
| 18:00.00 | vraman2811 | your full name |
| 18:00.08 | vraman2811 | @haris3301 |
| 18:00.25 | haris3301 | Ok, thanks |
| 18:00.35 | vraman2811 | np |
| 18:00.53 | vraman2811 | https://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
| 18:01.35 | siaw | vraman2811: thatâs strange, i filled it in and they told me itâs incomplete |
| 18:01.44 | vraman2811 | Indian students.. Kindly go through the above link. I'm not sure which one to choose |
| 18:02.12 | gevaerts | wonders if anyone has pointed out yet that asking about individual foreign certification form issues here is fairly pointless |
| 18:02.50 | vraman2811 | @siaw oh is it.? You are residing in India right.? And your mail is your postal address. not e-mail |
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| 21:54.06 | tctara | !logs |
| 21:54.06 | gsocbot | tctara: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 21:59.00 | pineapple_ | hey, I am trying to complete the registration on payoneer. can someone tell me what "purpose code" is apt to fill in? |
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| 22:49.25 | valorie | divyanshu_r: IRC commands begin with a "/" at the beginning of a line |
| 22:49.39 | valorie | like /join #channel |
| 22:49.50 | valorie | most channel names begin with # |
| 22:49.59 | valorie | like this one, #gsoc |
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| 23:04.30 | Freso | Wait, there are channels that do not begin with a hash? |
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| 23:05.33 | digitalcircuit | On Freenode, no (CHANTYPES=#). Bitlbee uses "&" to indicate control channels. |
| 23:06.34 | meflin | &usual means local server channels .. but I expect ircd's vary |
| 23:10.01 | Freso | #TIL |
| 23:10.54 | olly | you can have hashtags without a hash too... |
| 23:10.58 | olly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:23.22 | valorie | Freso: some begin with ## |
| 23:23.30 | valorie | some even with ! |
| 23:23.40 | valorie | not on freenode though, I don't think |
| 23:23.55 | Freso | If it begins with ## it also begins with # :p |
| 23:24.16 | valorie | haha |
| 23:24.24 | valorie | :-) |
| 23:24.40 | valorie | we should have an alis answer from the bot though |
| 23:24.54 | valorie | so the students can easily search the list of chans |
| 23:27.24 | terri | I'd hate to see a list of gsoc-relevant org chans spewed multiple times a day |
| 23:29.19 | valorie | no, just a pointer to alis as a channel search tool |
| 23:29.54 | valorie | like: <ubottu> alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http |
| 23:30.08 | valorie | optimized for gsoc students |
| 23:30.38 | valorie | anyway, off to pull dandelions |
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