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| 02:41.10 | benzrf | hey! |
| 02:41.43 | benzrf | the website wants a proof of enrollment, but i thought you only had to submit it once you're accepted? |
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| 02:56.50 | olly | benzrf: no, before you upload the proposal |
| 02:57.16 | benzrf | oh no D: |
| 02:58.22 | benzrf | i'll be enrolled in a college by the time the program starts, but not all of my acceptance/rejection letters have come in yet |
| 02:58.31 | benzrf | in particular, i don't have a letter from the college i expect to go to yet |
| 02:58.38 | benzrf | is there anything i can do |
| 03:01.12 | olly | not if you don't have one of the pieces of proof on the list |
| 03:05.21 | olly | or i guess unless you can get hold of one before the deadline |
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| 03:41.31 | benzrf | well, i do have two letters of acceptance |
| 03:41.40 | benzrf | it's just that i don't expect to be attending either of those schools |
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| 03:43.32 | benzrf | i could've sworn i looked this up and i didn't need proof of enrollment until acceptance ;-; |
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| 03:49.57 | benzrf | olly: since an acceptance letter is considered "proof of enrollment" for the program, i don't suppose there's any chance I could submit a letter from a school I'm not actually going to enroll in, but that I was accepted into? |
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| 03:55.34 | benzrf | i'll be enrolling in a college, it's just that i probably won't know all my options until after the deadline |
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| 04:00.38 | olly | benzrf: i don't know, they aren't my rules |
| 04:00.44 | benzrf | do you know who i could ask? |
| 04:00.47 | olly | !contact | benzrf |
| 04:00.51 | olly | hmm |
| 04:00.56 | benzrf | sorry, you seemed to know about the topic :) |
| 04:01.00 | olly | well, the contact email address is on the website |
| 04:01.50 | benzrf | oh :i |
| 04:01.52 | olly | i know what the rules say, but I don't know how google handle all the corner cases |
| 04:02.03 | olly | !email |
| 04:02.04 | gsocbot | olly: "email" is try !emails instead |
| 04:02.08 | benzrf | kk |
| 04:02.12 | olly | gsocbot: stop that |
| 04:02.16 | benzrf | gsocbot: version |
| 04:02.17 | gsocbot | benzrf: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1. |
| 04:02.22 | benzrf | hehe |
| 04:02.28 | benzrf | upgrade to limnoria! |
| 04:02.38 | olly | not my bot... |
| 04:02.52 | olly | it wouldn't fix me failing to know the factoid either |
| 04:03.05 | benzrf | didn't mean to imply it was, i was kind of addressing it to a hypothetical bot admin |
| 04:03.06 | benzrf | soz |
| 04:03.13 | benzrf | !emails |
| 04:03.13 | gsocbot | benzrf: "emails" is (#1) You will get one email per proposal you submitted. As you can only be accepted for one proposal, expect that you get rejected emails for all the others you sent in even if you got accepted., or (#2) It takes some time for thousands of emails to be sent. Please be patient and don't draw conclusions if you hear that others have already received their confirmations. |
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| 04:09.40 | benzrf | ok, i posted to the mailing list |
| 04:09.43 | benzrf | olly: thanks anyway :) |
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| 06:02.11 | Master_Kenway | hello, i want to know can any first year student of cse be selected in gsoc |
| 06:03.14 | Master_Kenway | hello |
| 06:03.48 | olly | Master_Kenway: it doesn't matter what course or year you are |
| 06:04.54 | Master_Kenway | oks |
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| 07:43.42 | Superrcoop | hello |
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| 07:53.38 | Izakey | Hello, have any Mentors had issues logging into the GSoC website ? |
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| 07:54.43 | kblin | I'm still logged in, but at least it works fine for me on reload |
| 07:54.57 | kblin | it's a bit slow overall, but that's the way it has been since day 1 |
| 07:55.13 | Superrcoop | hi, im new and i need help to put together a decent proposal. |
| 07:55.41 | Superrcoop | i havent even choosen an organization , is it too late ? |
| 07:55.46 | kblin | hi Superrcoop. have you read the student guide already? |
| 07:55.53 | kblin | !sutdentguide | Superrcoop |
| 07:55.59 | kblin | !studentguide | Superrcoop |
| 07:56.00 | gsocbot | Superrcoop: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 07:56.33 | kblin | it's too late on Friday, but I'd suggest you get started right away |
| 07:57.43 | Superrcoop | okay, gonna take a look. any tips for a newbie ? |
| 07:57.58 | Superrcoop | what are my chances of getting my proposal accepted ? |
| 07:58.30 | kblin | that depends mostly on your proposal |
| 07:58.38 | kblin | gsoc is not a numbers game |
| 07:58.51 | Izakey | @kblin, I meant that I've not been able to sign into the site. It says no account record for me... |
| 07:59.03 | Izakey | How did you sign in ? |
| 07:59.55 | kblin | Izakey: ah, I'm an org admin, I signed up quite some time ago |
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| 08:00.22 | kblin | but just to make sure, did you get an invite from your org admin? |
| 08:01.46 | Izakey | Not yet @kblin |
| 08:02.30 | kblin | Izakey: there you go, then. this year, you can't sign up yourself, you need to get an invite |
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| 08:03.26 | Izakey | Okay, thanks @kblin |
| 08:03.45 | Izakey | feels relief |
| 08:04.09 | kblin | so just write your org admin with the email associated with your google account |
| 08:05.09 | Izakey | Definitely @kblin. Thanks |
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| 08:36.47 | superrcoop | hello |
| 08:37.32 | superrcoop | i need help in choosing an organization to go with, preferly something easy |
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| 08:48.21 | DonKult | superrcoop: we can't help you with that; You will make a serious contribution to the org you choose (and preferably continue to do so after GSoC), so pick one YOU can (at least) identify with and a proposal which YOU "love" â All projects are challenging, but thats why you work with a mentor and write your own detailed proposal for it so that it is a challenge, but not unbeatable. |
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| 09:08.28 | akvy | My proposal is mostly complete. I wanted some inputs from my mentor. But, he hasn't replied to my mail. Should I submit my proposal link to my organisation in step #3 on summer of code website? |
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| 09:12.55 | sttaylor | akvy: you can submit your draft proposal or if you are ready you can go ahead and submit your final PDF. |
| 09:13.17 | sttaylor | Remember a Final PDF must be submitted before the March 25th 19:00 UTC deadline to be considered for GSoC 2016 |
| 09:13.38 | sttaylor | also if you submit your final pdf now you can upload a new one up until the deadline on March 25th |
| 09:14.09 | sttaylor | but I strongly encourage students to submit at least 6 hours before the final deadline - we do not extend the deadline under any circumstances |
| 09:14.36 | sttaylor | every year students miss the deadline because their wifi goes out or their computer dies and they have to wait until the next year to try again |
| 09:14.43 | sttaylor | procrastination in not your friend : ) |
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| 09:17.57 | superrcoop | If i submit a proposal without contacting my mentor will the proposal be accepted ? |
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| 09:22.47 | sttaylor | superrcoop: it depends on how good the proposal is and the other proposals the orgs have received |
| 09:23.09 | DonKult | superrcoop: we can make no guaranties about that either. All proposals (which are submitted before the deadline) are reviewed, ranked and slots are distributed over them depending on how much the org gets. So theoretically everything is possible, but in practice I would say that no contact with the mentor at least doesn't give you bonuspoints â and you wanna stand out above the crowd :) |
| 09:24.16 | superrcoop | what are the factors of a "excellent" proposal ? |
| 09:24.39 | DonKult | !sutdentguide |
| 09:24.45 | DonKult | ⦠|
| 09:24.51 | DonKult | !studentguide |
| 09:24.51 | gsocbot | DonKult: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 10:36.01 | Amaan | Hello! |
| 10:36.33 | Amaan | I was looking around on google-melange.com at some of the previously accepted proposals, and they all seem to include code samples |
| 10:37.09 | Amaan | In my current proposal, I see uploading my proposal as a PDF as the final step |
| 10:37.17 | Amaan | Is there a hidden final step, which is the code sample? |
| 10:38.15 | sttaylor | if you are looking at google-melange then you are looking at completed projects from previous years which have a code sample from the work the students did during the program |
| 10:38.29 | Amaan | Ah! |
| 10:38.35 | Amaan | That makes sense, thank you :) |
| 10:38.38 | sttaylor | for your proposal you only submit a Final PDF proposal on the site |
| 10:39.11 | sttaylor | but some orgs also may require you to triage some bugs or do some other activity to show you understand enough about their project to succeed. |
| 10:39.32 | sttaylor | Each org has its own suggestion about that and some don?t require anything other than the pdf |
| 10:41.36 | sttaylor | if an org wants more information from you or for you to fix some bugs or something then it will be on their Org page at the bottom where it says :How to work with us? |
| 10:41.55 | sttaylor | many orgs have a link to the template they want students to use for a proposal or if they want you to fix bugs, etc. |
| 10:42.02 | Amaan | Yeah, I saw |
| 10:42.11 | sttaylor | hopefully you have alreaydy been talking to the org and know about their requirements (if any) |
| 10:42.16 | Amaan | I've spoken to one of the mentors already |
| 10:42.41 | Amaan | He told me that the proposal looked good and that I should submit, but I was just wondering if there was any more that I'd have to do for the proposal |
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| 11:11.21 | Anuj | sttaylor, Hey. As we have to submit the proposal in PDF. Should it contain Title of proposal and contact details etc. Was confused as all this was not in sample GSOC website give but look very needful to me if there can be chance where pdf could be downloaded by mentors and viewed later, if that might be one case |
| 11:12.22 | sttaylor | you should have already typed your project title and abstract above where you submit the final pdf when you are logged in and on your dashboard |
| 11:12.38 | sttaylor | the mentors will see those items along with your pdf proposal |
| 11:13.10 | Anuj | sttaylor, So no need to put them in pdf? |
| 11:13.42 | sttaylor | correct - you can put the title on there if it makes you feel better. doesn?t hurt anything |
| 11:14.51 | Anuj | and github handle, irc nick etc. All those goes positive in positive side. right? |
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| 11:21.11 | Freso | Amaan: If the mentor told you to submit it... then do that? |
| 11:21.28 | Freso | Anuj: I can't see why it wouldn't, but it depends on the organisation. |
| 11:22.42 | Amaan | Freso: Done already. I was only wondering what the "code samples" I saw were |
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| 11:37.38 | kunwar | can anyone tell me if i send the proposal now how much chance is that i got selected |
| 11:37.55 | sttaylor | it?s the quality of your proposal, not when you send it |
| 11:38.10 | uajain | No one can tell it. |
| 11:38.14 | sttaylor | none of the final proposals are viewable to orgs until after the deadline MArch 25th |
| 11:38.56 | uajain | some times the quality proposal even get rejected just because orgs didn't get enough slots from Google. |
| 11:39.00 | kunwar | ok. did i have to explain every detail of the project in the proposal |
| 11:39.42 | uajain | The more detailed, the more chances ! + you need to have some bug fixing eariler to give you real edge |
| 11:40.00 | kunwar | how long should be the proposal length |
| 11:40.27 | sttaylor | kunwar: there isn?t an answer to that question |
| 11:40.44 | sttaylor | other than it shouldn?t be a book and it shouldn?t be less than a page either |
| 11:41.18 | sttaylor | however long it takes you to discuss the project and how you plan to tackle it, the outcomes, etc |
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| 11:42.40 | kunwar | i don't get much time to learn about the language . i have less idea about it. should i give it a try?? |
| 11:45.18 | sttaylor | kunwar: you need to know somthing about the language you are planning to code in all summer. You don?t need to be an expert but you need to be familiar with it. The mentor can?t teach it to you |
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| 11:48.10 | kunwar | i know the language in which i have to code but not very much familiar about the organization |
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| 13:07.12 | denix56_ | guys, how are your projects and proposals?) |
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| 13:11.36 | Zephman | denix56_ I think my proposal is going ok but my mentor has been giving me good feedback. |
| 13:11.44 | Zephman | denix56_ How about you? |
| 13:15.02 | denix56_ | i get an almost good feedback. But i saw the proposal of another guy, who is applying for the same project. He has prettier looked proposal, but my proposal, in my opinion, has more specifics |
| 13:16.12 | Zephman | denix56_ are you just applying to one organisation and one proposal? |
| 13:16.29 | denix56_ | yes |
| 13:16.45 | Zephman | denix56_ same, I hope I'm lucky and get it. |
| 13:17.41 | denix56_ | And what`s your programming language?) |
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| 13:18.54 | Zephman | denix56_ Java. |
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| 13:22.24 | denix56__ | C++ |
| 13:24.07 | armalcolite | Is someone, who uploaded the proposal, able to view the final pdf by clicking "Click to view your final proposal"? |
| 13:24.19 | armalcolite | it shows me a blank page. |
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| 13:34.04 | denix56__ | yes, i can open it |
| 13:34.18 | denix56__ | and view |
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| 13:37.33 | catchchaos | Hi! Is anyone experiencing an error while filling up and submitting personal details on the GSOC website? |
| 13:38.58 | denix56__ | what kind of error? |
| 13:40.29 | catchchaos | When I hit next, I get a small pop up on the bottom left say 'There were errors'. However, none of the textboxes have any reference to the error. It's very strange. |
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| 13:55.01 | Neel007 | Good Morning, A quick question. I have participated @ GSOC-2015. To submit proposal to GSOC-2016 should I create a new account in the website https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ |
| 13:55.11 | Neel007 | or My previous login can be used |
| 13:56.24 | gevaerts | You need a new login |
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| 14:02.32 | Neel007 | @gevaerts.. Thanks |
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| 18:42.24 | *** topic/#gsoc is GSoC Student Registration is open! Deadline March 25th 19:00 UTC. http://g.co/gsoc |
| 18:42.36 | meflin | meenaerian: talk to your mentors |
| 18:42.43 | DonKult | meenaerian: as panzone suggested, look over the reactos (= your org) pages. They probably have a template. Also, contact the mentor for the project you are interested in. Bonus points if you join their IRC channel :) |
| 18:44.11 | meenaerian | ok thank you :D |
| 18:44.29 | meenaerian | can you tell me how can i talk to mentors |
| 18:44.30 | meenaerian | ?? |
| 18:44.59 | meflin | meenaerian: no but the contact info is in the org info on the web site |
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| 19:05.02 | *** topic/#gsoc by Robert_S -> GSoC Proposal Deadline is March 19th at 19:00 UTC. http://g.co/gsoc -- LESS THAN TWO DAYS REMAIN -- |
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| 19:08.31 | user113 | 19th March? its already gone. |
| 19:08.53 | meflin | user113: huh? |
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| 19:09.56 | blast007 | the topic |
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| 19:10.02 | malayaleecoder | meflin: the topic |
| 19:10.14 | meflin | huh I think that is wrong |
| 19:10.16 | *** topic/#gsoc by Robert_S -> GSoC Proposal Deadline is March 25th at 19:00 UTC. http://g.co/gsoc -- LESS THAN TWO DAYS REMAIN -- |
| 19:10.27 | Robert_S | Just checking to see if everyone is paying attention. |
| 19:10.34 | blast007 | :) |
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| 19:17.07 | markedsea | ! |
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| 20:22.07 | user113 | On a proove of enrollment i should have signature & seal of rector/principial or signature & seal dean of faculty would be enough? |
| 20:23.11 | user113 | becouse my student ID isn't ready yet and my university is making a letter for me. |
| 20:23.56 | meflin | did you read the faq ? |
| 20:24.09 | meflin | !faq |
| 20:24.09 | gsocbot | meflin: "faq" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq |
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| 20:27.52 | meflin | specificly -<> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/proof-of-enrollment#accepted_documents |
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| 20:28.48 | terri | user113: and if you have further doubts, just submit the best documents you have available and you'll be contacted and given a bit of time if they need more info. |
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| 20:50.04 | pertschy | :( got no burning man ticket |
| 20:50.29 | meflin | that is off topic |
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| 21:57.52 | meflin | yea! |
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| 22:00.56 | tdw | I am new to GSOC, but familiar with github. However, when trying to look at pull requests, I am unsure of what to choose, as most look over my level. How many are we needing to get involved in? Does it matter if we cannot close any? |
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| 22:01.20 | meflin | you should talk to your mentors |
| 22:01.32 | meflin | and you need 1 |
| 22:01.34 | Calinou | most organizations would really appreciate if you could work on at least an issue, the good ones use a "junior job" system :) |
| 22:02.16 | tdw | thank you |
| 22:12.16 | perepujal | does students need to submit their final proposal or it is done automagically from their drafts? |
| 22:12.33 | meflin | you must final |
| 22:12.34 | olly | perepujal: it's not automatic |
| 22:13.08 | d3r1ck | perepujal: You must submit the final proposal |
| 22:13.31 | d3r1ck | I think Google sent all registered GSoCers a mail saying that earlier today :) |
| 22:14.11 | perepujal | thanks, so no need to re-remember that to students :) |
| 22:14.49 | valorie | perepujal: you can submit a final now, and fix it and resubmit when it is "done" |
| 22:14.59 | valorie | do NOT wait until the last minute! |
| 22:17.21 | olly | i think perepujal is a mentor wondering about needing to prod students... |
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| 22:18.07 | perepujal | correct :) |
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| 22:19.44 | DonKult | maybe depends on if that mail was really sent to all GSoCers or just to the students who subscribed to the mailinglist in the registration process. |
| 22:19.58 | Robert_S | The email was supposed to go out to everyone who registered. |
| 22:20.10 | Robert_S | We're getting some reports that it might not have gotten to everyone, but at this point, not much we can do. |
| 22:20.27 | meflin | email isn't magic it can take days |
| 22:22.09 | Robert_S | I'm guessing we'll start getting reports of it being in spam folders. |
| 22:22.55 | meflin | that as well |
| 22:24.02 | olly | Robert_S: one of the problems with trying to run a genuine program where google gives money to people... |
| 22:25.03 | Robert_S | olly: Sadly, most of the people who register don't actually sbumit a proposal. |
| 22:25.30 | terri | if this channel is any indication, a good number of htem freak out when they get to the proof of enrollment step. ;) |
| 22:26.13 | terri | but yeah, my experience is that a lot of students talk to us but then don't submit anything . Sometimes some of the best students don't submit anything and we're super sad about it. |
| 22:26.23 | terri | but not much we can do if people don't submit! |
| 22:26.29 | olly | should be easy to see how many registered vs how many uploaded a proof of enrollment |
| 22:26.55 | Robert_S | olly: Damnit, now I have to go look. |
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| 22:27.36 | olly | terri: i've seen that too |
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| 22:33.46 | Robert_S | The number of POEs in the system is higher than I expected compared to the number of students who have entered proposals. |
| 22:33.58 | Robert_S | Sorry for not sharing the exact number, that's Stephanie's baliwick. |
| 22:34.19 | AlexIalongo | hello everybody, I am applying for GSoC and have already submitted proposals and a proof of enrolment. Thing is for me it's just an offer of admission and the term will start on the 1st of October 2016. For some reason it says online that the term should start by the 30th of September. Does anybody know if this is likely to be a problem? |
| 22:35.08 | valorie | !support | AlexIalongo |
| 22:35.09 | gsocbot | AlexIalongo: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 22:35.14 | Robert_S | valorie++ |
| 22:35.28 | valorie | heh |
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| 22:45.34 | Ch3ck | Hi does anyone know any mentors for Apache SF here? |
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| 22:47.49 | olly | !anyone | Ch3ck |
| 22:47.49 | gsocbot | Ch3ck: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ |
| 22:53.22 | Ch3ck | thanks olly |
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| 23:08.44 | lays147_ | hi guys |
| 23:08.55 | lays147_ | i have a doubt about submiting a draft on the web app |
| 23:09.40 | lays147_ | after put the project title and the tag, what i need to do on the field abstract? a resume? |
| 23:10.07 | meflin | depends on your org |
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| 23:11.31 | lays147_ | the people on #kde-soc dont know neither |
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| 23:12.39 | meflin | you still need to ask that of your org ... check the docs |
| 23:12.47 | lays147_ | ok |
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| 23:33.15 | olly | lays147_: the abstract will presumably be shown publically on the website |
| 23:33.33 | olly | so to be useful it needs to describe the project without much context |
| 23:33.54 | olly | your resume isn't useful, it should talk about the project not you |
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| 23:35.31 | lays147_ | olly: thanks |
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| 23:45.28 | olly | ;ay |
| 23:45.47 | olly | lays147_: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2015/phoenix_du/5718998062727168 is an example from last year (and the old site) |
| 23:46.27 | olly | perhaps not a great example - "PCV" isn't obvious to someone outside the org |
| 23:46.45 | olly | "Peace Corps Volunteer" I'd guess, but it'd be better to spell it out |
| 23:49.08 | olly | Robert_S: BTW, do the different colours of the hexagons against the internal review comments indicate anything? |
| 23:49.22 | Robert_S | Not off the top of my head. |
| 23:49.29 | Robert_S | They might related to different people. |
| 23:49.47 | olly | i see different colours for comments from the same person |
| 23:49.54 | Robert_S | they're probably random then. |
| 23:54.06 | Robert_S | ok, it's not random, but there are 4 colors that cycle. |
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