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| 00:41.12 | sbeller_ | copyleft games are great to start your programming adventures IMHO (as I did that too); Seriously who did not start their programming by either games or being assignments in education? It's not like people sit down to write another text editor or some serious stuff. |
| 00:58.11 | olly | My first program printed a picture of a house |
| 00:58.48 | olly | Or at least the first I remember writing |
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| 01:34.19 | benstrumental | When should organization admins expect to hear from GSoC organizers? |
| 01:34.33 | Robert_S | For what purpose? |
| 01:35.11 | benstrumental | Robert_S: I guess we will hear from GSoC organizers about how many students we are able to accept? |
| 01:35.22 | benstrumental | Robert_S: Is that decided after proposal submissions? |
| 01:35.25 | Robert_S | Yes. |
| 01:36.24 | Robert_S | After you get proposals, you evaluate them, and say "here's how many we want". Then Google gets back to you with "here's how many you get". Then you pick the ones to fill those slots. |
| 01:38.17 | benstrumental | Robert_S: Ah ok, so we shouldn't expect to hear from anyone up until then |
| 01:38.24 | Robert_S | Correct. |
| 01:38.31 | Robert_S | I think this is in the mentor manual. |
| 01:38.44 | benstrumental | Robert_S: Ah, you should've just rtfm'd me |
| 01:39.13 | Robert_S | That would have required making sure it was there first. |
| 01:39.15 | Robert_S | It was easier to just type. |
| 01:39.32 | benstrumental | appreciate it :) |
| 01:39.40 | Robert_S | As a new org, you're not likely to get very many. |
| 01:39.51 | Robert_S | IIRC, this was also discussed on one of the mailing lists. |
| 01:41.03 | benstrumental | While I have your attention, should we try to make students aware of how popular certain projects are when they are choosing projects? |
| 01:41.34 | benstrumental | Like, if half of the students want to pursue project foo, should we try to make students aware of this? |
| 01:41.57 | benstrumental | point me to manual/mailing list, if this is also there - it turns out to be a difficult thing to search for |
| 01:42.24 | Robert_S | There's a google-summer-of-code-discuss and a mentors list you'll be subscribed to this week if you opted in. |
| 01:42.33 | Robert_S | Feel free to balance students among your ideas. |
| 01:42.39 | Robert_S | I wouldn't call them "projects" yet. |
| 01:43.28 | mbr0wn | benstrumental: We do that (our project being GNU Radio), and even suggest upfront which projects will receive more attention |
| 01:44.04 | mbr0wn | I'm not sure it actually helps, but it's info we can provide |
| 01:44.24 | benstrumental | Would this be useful to post in an FAQ or on the project idea list itself? |
| 01:44.46 | benstrumental | I guess that's up to us, but I am curious what you suggest |
| 01:45.02 | benstrumental | to both Robert_S && mrbr0wn |
| 01:45.24 | mbr0wn | Depends on how your GSoC docs look like |
| 01:46.01 | mbr0wn | We have a bunch of wiki pages about different gsoc-related things, and that's where we put the suggestions on what will probably more/less popular |
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| 03:57.47 | axelri | Hi! I'm really interested in applying for a gsoc project but during June I will be in Australia, where I can currently only work 20 hours/week according to my student visa. Will I still be eligible or do I need a full-time work visa? |
| 04:00.03 | didik_swn | Can we apply GSoC and doing the coding from remote area? I mean, outside US? |
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| 04:06.23 | olly | didik_swn: it's all remote |
| 04:06.56 | olly | axelri: I would talk to the org you're applying to about it |
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| 04:10.14 | Robert_S | axelri: GSoC is supposed to be ~40 hours a week of work. |
| 04:11.02 | Robert_S | But you should talk to your personal tax/visa/financial advisor about the restriction. |
| 04:13.23 | olly | Robert_S: is ~40 hours now the official google line? previously they've seemed reluctant to pin it down and left it up to orgs (who indeed mostly expect ~40 hours) |
| 04:14.34 | Robert_S | olly: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-summer-of-code-discuss/mRd09mDzloI/3beOzj21AQAJ |
| 04:14.34 | olly | the current FAQ seems to say less on this than it did before |
| 04:14.57 | Robert_S | https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-summer-of-code-discuss/1tRIARl6Kt4/U7u8lYgCDAAJ |
| 04:15.18 | Robert_S | We cleaned out the FAQ, as it had gotten dusty. This might be worth putting back. |
| 04:15.38 | olly | it's definitely FA and would be good to have a clear official answer to point to |
| 04:17.39 | olly | thanks for the pointers |
| 04:17.57 | Robert_S | olly: I'll pass the suggestion along. (Writing the email right now.) |
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| 04:25.32 | axelri | Thanks guys, I'll try to contact the org and sort out my visa details |
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| 07:39.10 | nicolassebrecht | How are the proposals submitted? A (text?) file to upload? A HTML form in the webapp? |
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| 07:45.44 | thiago | up until last year, it was a form in the webapp |
| 07:45.52 | thiago | the webapp changed this year, so I don't know |
| 07:46.00 | thiago | assume it's plain text again |
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| 07:49.41 | nicolassebrecht | thiago: thanks |
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| 07:59.23 | olly | nicolassebrecht: thiago: PDF proposals this year apparently according to the email that was sent out to admins a short time ago |
| 08:00.20 | olly | Which seems like it is going to make reviewing an updated proposal even more of a pain than before |
| 08:00.26 | nicolassebrecht | olly: Oh, looks like my admin still didn't transfer this mail to me... |
| 08:01.05 | nicolassebrecht | why more pain? |
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| 08:01.24 | nicolassebrecht | PDF sounds fine to me. |
| 08:01.30 | olly | How do you diff two PDF files? |
| 08:02.02 | nicolassebrecht | Well, PDF should be generated at least time. |
| 08:02.39 | olly | You mean diff the source? |
| 08:02.44 | nicolassebrecht | yes. |
| 08:02.55 | olly | That requires the student makes it available each time |
| 08:03.50 | olly | I guess we'll see how it pans out |
| 08:03.52 | nicolassebrecht | You can ask students to work with text files and have them generate a PDF for submission only. |
| 08:04.19 | nicolassebrecht | s/ask/request/ |
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| 08:09.47 | nicolassebrecht | olly: when this mail was sent? |
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| 08:11.56 | AlexP11223 | What happens if I submit two proposals and both of them are accepted? I will be able to choose which one I want? Or the other one will be automatically rejected when the first is accepted? |
| 08:12.50 | AlexP11223 | and is it possible to submit more than one proposal for the same org? |
| 08:13.03 | olly | AlexP11223: you'll only get to do one - you might get asked which, but it is assumed you only apply for projects you want to do |
| 08:13.16 | olly | you can, but i'd talk to the org before doing so |
| 08:13.25 | olly | writing a good proposal is a lot of work |
| 08:13.35 | AlexP11223 | yeah, of course |
| 08:13.37 | olly | writing two is a serious time commitment |
| 08:15.27 | pq | nicolassebrecht, I'm just reading that email fresh, seems to have come... a couple hours ago for me |
| 08:15.41 | nicolassebrecht | pq: thanks! |
| 08:16.23 | pq | it's also suggesting Google Docs for draft proposals so reviewers could add comments straight in the doc |
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| 08:16.52 | nicolassebrecht | Google docs can diff documents? |
| 08:17.16 | pq | maybe, dunno, but you can put comment boxes in them |
| 08:17.51 | pq | and probably has change history too |
| 08:19.11 | pq | of course I'd expect importing a PDF to not work at all, it's about writing the original there to begin with. |
| 08:20.51 | nicolassebrecht | Of course. |
| 08:21.40 | nicolassebrecht | Just looked that Google docs out. For now, I only found a "revisions history" which sucks because the points are arbtitral. |
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| 08:22.03 | nicolassebrecht | You seem to can't make your own. |
| 08:22.17 | nicolassebrecht | +stage points. |
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| 08:23.41 | pq | hm, too bad |
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| 08:24.00 | nicolassebrecht | Hmm, well... I think I'm not going to work with that thing. |
| 08:24.24 | nicolassebrecht | Only color highlights againts previous arbitral step point. |
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| 08:24.34 | nicolassebrecht | :-( |
| 08:25.55 | nicolassebrecht | s/arbitral/arbitrary/ |
| 08:27.53 | kblin | morning folks |
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| 08:29.33 | Mikasou | morning |
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| 08:30.05 | kblin | olly: well, let's see how that draft proposal stuff will work |
| 08:30.16 | kblin | but I also think PDF is stupid |
| 08:30.30 | nicolassebrecht | Also, it obviously offline work impossible with G docs. |
| 08:30.56 | kblin | I'd go with markdown, and then pandoc for the pdf version |
| 08:31.01 | nicolassebrecht | cannot write proper sentences, today. :-! |
| 08:31.27 | nicolassebrecht | That's what I think is the best, yes. |
| 08:31.42 | nicolassebrecht | However, pandoc is big toolchain. |
| 08:31.57 | kblin | nicolassebrecht: maybe try with more or less coffee? |
| 08:32.22 | nicolassebrecht | kblin: real coffee or the tool? |
| 08:32.29 | nicolassebrecht | :-) |
| 08:32.34 | kblin | real coffee |
| 08:33.09 | nicolassebrecht | I was about to say I don't know a "coffee" tool doing PDF generation. :-) |
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| 08:33.57 | nicolassebrecht | I'd like to avoid coffee... |
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| 08:35.10 | kblin | anyway, not sure if pandoc is a big toolchain, compared to libre office |
| 08:35.19 | kblin | or tetex |
| 08:35.39 | nicolassebrecht | Good point. |
| 08:35.51 | kblin | arguably you need tex to generate pdfs with pandoc, so I guess it's bigger than tetex |
| 08:36.28 | kblin | but I would assume that most GSoC students have a unix-like operating system that has some kind of package manager |
| 08:36.49 | kblin | and if that package manager is any good, it'll have pandoc |
| 08:36.51 | nicolassebrecht | I wonder a git repository for each proposal would make sense. |
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| 08:39.07 | nicolassebrecht | http://superuser.com/questions/689056/how-can-i-convert-github-flavored-markdown-to-a-pdf |
| 08:39.13 | aghisla | in past years, some of my students wrote their proposals on our wiki and it worked quite well. of course it means that the ideas are public from the start, but it is rarely an issue. |
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| 08:40.15 | nicolassebrecht | !learn makepdf Some ideas for you: http://superuser.com/questions/689056/how-can-i-convert-github-flavored-markdown-to-a-pdf |
| 08:40.15 | gsocbot | nicolassebrecht: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 08:40.33 | nicolassebrecht | !learn #gsoc makepdf Some ideas for you: http://superuser.com/questions/689056/how-can-i-convert-github-flavored-markdown-to-a-pdf |
| 08:40.33 | gsocbot | nicolassebrecht: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 08:40.38 | nicolassebrecht | FUCK |
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| 08:40.51 | kblin | language.. and reading comprehension ;) |
| 08:41.17 | kblin | !learn makepdf as Some ideas for you: http://superuser.com/questions/689056/how-can-i-convert-github-flavored-markdown-to-a-pdf |
| 08:41.17 | gsocbot | kblin: "makepdf" is Some ideas for you: http://superuser.com/questions/689056/how-can-i-convert-github-flavored-markdown-to-a-pdf |
| 08:41.44 | nicolassebrecht | Thanks. Just noticed the "as". |
| 08:41.48 | kblin | :) |
| 08:42.17 | kblin | to be fair, the syntax takes a while to get used to |
| 08:42.35 | kblin | but the explanation is pretty good, I think |
| 08:42.39 | nicolassebrecht | My bot doesn't require "as". |
| 08:43.16 | nicolassebrecht | Yes, it is. When habbits come down to the path... |
| 08:45.02 | kblin | nicolassebrecht: the advantage of the "as" is that you can make the bot learn a factoid consisting of many words |
| 08:45.09 | kblin | !this cookie | nicolassebrecht |
| 08:45.09 | gsocbot | nicolassebrecht: "this cookie" is for you |
| 08:45.42 | kblin | of course this doesn't work if your multi-word factoid should contain "as" ;) |
| 08:46.07 | kblin | anyway, back to work |
| 08:46.23 | kblin | trying to figure out why this stupid file fails in production, but not in dev |
| 08:46.57 | nicolassebrecht | Right. |
| 08:52.52 | olly | !learn as as as as as |
| 08:52.53 | gsocbot | olly: "" is as as as as |
| 08:53.05 | olly | now that's the one parse I wasn't expecting... |
| 08:53.09 | olly | !forget |
| 08:53.09 | gsocbot | olly: (forget [<channel>] <key> [<number>|*]) -- Removes the factoid <key> from the factoids database. If there are more than one factoid with such a key, a number is necessary to determine which one should be removed. A * can be used to remove all factoids associated with a key. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 08:53.14 | olly | hmm |
| 08:53.20 | olly | !forget "" |
| 08:53.20 | gsocbot | olly: Error: You must not give the empty string as an argument. |
| 08:53.58 | kblin | hehe |
| 08:54.06 | olly | kblin: sir, I would like to report a defect in your bot |
| 08:54.21 | kblin | you broke it, you fix it |
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| 08:54.42 | kblin | but hang on |
| 08:54.46 | kblin | ! |
| 08:54.49 | kblin | nah |
| 08:54.53 | olly | !"" |
| 08:54.53 | gsocbot | olly: "" is as as as as |
| 08:54.58 | kblin | hehe |
| 08:55.00 | olly | hah |
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| 08:55.31 | kblin | seriously, though, that parsing routine is in upstream supybot, I guess |
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| 09:05.04 | nicolassebrecht | !forget as |
| 09:05.04 | gsocbot | nicolassebrecht: Error: There is no such factoid. |
| 09:05.24 | nicolassebrecht | !forget as as as |
| 09:05.25 | gsocbot | nicolassebrecht: Error: There is no such factoid. |
| 09:05.34 | olly | the factoid has an empty name |
| 09:06.11 | nicolassebrecht | Ah right, missed the response of the bot. |
| 09:06.46 | nicolassebrecht | !learn as |
| 09:06.47 | gsocbot | nicolassebrecht: "" is (#1) as as as as, or (#2) |
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| 09:09.05 | nicolassebrecht | I'm curious to know how many entries the bot can support for a factoid. |
| 09:09.48 | nicolassebrecht | not gonna try to test this out, though. |
| 09:18.29 | kblin | if I have some time later tonight I'll dig into the sqlite database of the factoids and dump there |
| 09:18.37 | kblin | *these |
| 09:19.08 | kblin | come on, brain, just because I've been looking at some old perl code there's no reason to go on strike |
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| 12:41.35 | pickfire | Hi, I am currently 18 and I haven't reached my birthday yet, am I eligible to join gsoc? |
| 12:42.05 | pickfire | I am going to a university during April. |
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| 12:44.30 | Nikolay_Zinov | pickfire: I had the same situation last year and they said no |
| 12:44.48 | pickfire | Nikolay_Zinov: Huh, why? |
| 12:45.03 | Valodim | what do you mean "you are 18 and you havn't reached your birthday yet"? are you 18 or not? |
| 12:45.07 | pickfire | I am going for a degree the next year and it will be a lot lesser on the time. |
| 12:45.10 | pickfire | Valodim: I am 18 |
| 12:45.22 | Valodim | so what does "haven't reached my birthday yet" mean? |
| 12:45.37 | pickfire | Valodim: My birthday is in the future. |
| 12:45.39 | pickfire | This year. |
| 12:45.55 | Valodim | so have you had a birthday yet where the cake had an 18 written on it? |
| 12:45.56 | Nikolay_Zinov | pickfire: Oh, sorry, I read "NOT 18" |
| 12:46.20 | pickfire | But doesn't this sounds unfair to those who have their birthday at the end of the year. |
| 12:46.42 | pickfire | They can't join either google code-in or google summer of code. |
| 12:46.44 | Valodim | so that's a no? |
| 12:46.56 | Nikolay_Zinov | pickfire: Yes, it is |
| 12:47.12 | pickfire | So? |
| 12:47.18 | Nikolay_Zinov | pickfire: I was very dissappointed |
| 12:47.32 | pickfire | Me too, it sounds really unfair. |
| 12:48.02 | pickfire | Nikolay_Zinov: Actually I am 19 |
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| 12:48.41 | pickfire | If you are looking at a lunar calendar. |
| 12:48.55 | Valodim | if you have to argue about your age, you probably aren't eligible |
| 12:49.28 | pickfire | Valodim: So that's mean a yes? |
| 12:49.39 | pickfire | Okay, I won't argue anymore. Thanks a lot! |
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| 12:50.00 | Valodim | I also don't understand what you mean by unfair. you are eligible for GCI until the day you turn 18, and from that point on you are eligible for GSoC |
| 12:50.52 | Nikolay_Zinov | Valodim: You must be in middle school for GCI |
| 12:51.04 | pickfire | Valodim: here |
| 12:51.15 | Valodim | Nikolay_Zinov: ah right |
| 12:51.35 | Nikolay_Zinov | Valodim: If you're 17 and in university you're ineligible for both( |
| 12:51.44 | pickfire | Secondary school (17) <-> Current (18) <-> University (18) |
| 12:51.53 | pickfire | Secondary school (17) <-> Current (18) <-> University (18) <-> Birthday (18) |
| 12:52.04 | Nikolay_Zinov | Valodim: As I was last year |
| 12:52.10 | pickfire | Nikolay_Zinov: No, I wasn't. |
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| 12:52.17 | pickfire | I am 18 waiting for a university. |
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| 12:52.35 | Nikolay_Zinov | pickfire: I am speaking of myself) |
| 12:52.39 | pickfire | Oh |
| 12:52.44 | pickfire | Nikolay_Zinov: You must be a genius. |
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| 12:53.50 | Nikolay_Zinov | pickfire: I have half of my groupmates the same age as me |
| 12:53.56 | pickfire | Woah |
| 12:54.03 | Nikolay_Zinov | pickfire: So, this is normal |
| 12:54.04 | Valodim | yeah university at 17 is common in some places |
| 12:54.18 | Nikolay_Zinov | I am from Russia |
| 12:54.23 | pickfire | No, it will never be in my country |
| 12:54.26 | pickfire | I am from Malaysia |
| 12:54.45 | pickfire | But it has no summer break :( |
| 12:55.04 | pickfire | Nikolay_Zinov: So you are doing gsoc while studying at a university? |
| 12:56.23 | Nikolay_Zinov | pickfire: I don't quite get you. I am going to apply this year |
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| 12:56.31 | pickfire | Nikolay_Zinov: Same for me. |
| 12:56.44 | Valodim | there is no other way than to do gsoc while studying at a university |
| 12:56.45 | pickfire | Nikolay_Zinov: I mean do you plan to study while working on gsoc. |
| 12:56.49 | pickfire | Oh |
| 12:57.07 | pickfire | I studying full time in a university while working on gsoc full time. |
| 12:57.12 | pickfire | I guess I have double full time. |
| 12:58.52 | panzone | well, when I did my GSOC a couple of years ago I was thinking to do the same. It didn't really worked xD GSOC requires a lot of your time and energy |
| 12:59.28 | pickfire | panzone: Why? How long are you working for a week? |
| 12:59.35 | Valodim | gsoc is meant as a full-time deal. if you don't treat it as such, you're not only being dishonest to your organization, but also risking a bad time for yourself |
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| 13:01.05 | pickfire | Valodim: Are you one of the participant? |
| 13:01.33 | panzone | pickfire: Well, every week was different, but a good estimate is 40/45 hours. |
| 13:01.47 | Valodim | I'm an organization admin |
| 13:01.51 | pickfire | panzone: Oh, I guess I can get that number too. |
| 13:02.08 | panzone | (I'm just a student, by the way) |
| 13:02.22 | pickfire | But I can't just skip university and say that I am a participant of gsoc. |
| 13:02.32 | pickfire | panzone: How are you writing the proposal? HTML? |
| 13:02.48 | Valodim | what does "skip" university even mean |
| 13:03.52 | pickfire | Valodim: Take some holidays without a reasonable reason. |
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| 13:05.37 | Valodim | time management is usually a student's responsibility |
| 13:05.53 | pickfire | Okay, I need to learn that by the way too. |
| 13:05.59 | pickfire | Thanks a lot for the teachings. |
| 13:06.09 | panzone | pickfire: simple text, no HTML or something complicated. |
| 13:06.24 | pickfire | Oh |
| 13:06.53 | panzone | but that's just me. I don't know how we will submit proposals this year |
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| 13:11.49 | gc | is there any |
| 13:11.51 | dufferzafar | i just hope the new site allows us to upload proposals in markdown. |
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| 13:14.30 | kblin | well, the final proposal apparently needs to be uploaded as PDF |
| 13:14.45 | kblin | I hope the draft proposals can be something more useful |
| 13:15.00 | pickfire | dufferzafar: Yeah, hope so. |
| 13:15.32 | dufferzafar | kblin: Is the PDF thing mentioned in the docs somewhere? |
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| 13:16.36 | pickfire | Probably not. |
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| 13:19.54 | kblin | dufferzafar: it was mentioned in an email to the org admins today |
| 13:20.50 | panzone | oh, really ? PDF ? so every time I have to change something I have to generate a new PDF ? |
| 13:21.53 | gevaerts | Bonus points if you include a usable revision history |
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| 13:31.01 | amsharma | panzone: yeah, right. i fail to see how pdfs make any sense? |
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| 13:36.19 | kvps | who is working on brlcad |
| 13:38.00 | kblin | panzone: it said "final proposal must be uploaded as pdf" |
| 13:38.16 | kvps | as a pdf |
| 13:38.36 | kblin | panzone: but this is as new for us org admins/mentors as it is for you :) |
| 13:39.29 | kblin | kvps: try #brlcad, maybe? :) |
| 13:40.02 | kvps | ok |
| 13:40.18 | kblin | panzone: they also encourage using google docs for the drafts |
| 13:40.22 | kblin | "To encourage more students to seek feedback on their proposals we made draft proposals part of the proposal workflow. Be sure to refresh your dashboard periodically so that you can see when new drafts are ready to review. We are encouraging the use of Google Docs for proposals as this will allow you to comment directly on the proposal (if the student sets their sharing settings correctly)." |
| 13:40.35 | kblin | not sure yet if I'm a big fan |
| 13:42.04 | panzone | kblin: well, better than nothing. I really liked the old form, it was easy to quickly modify a proposal and share it. |
| 13:42.16 | kblin | true |
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| 13:42.25 | kblin | also the change tracking in google docs is decent |
| 13:42.41 | kblin | I also use this at work to work on manuscripts |
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| 13:48.22 | Dragooon | If I want to ask about CPT, should I mail Stephanie or Cat? |
| 13:49.07 | Dragooon | I just want to know if a couple of particular changes in the letter would be okay |
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| 14:14.03 | mbtamuli12 | !logs |
| 14:14.03 | gsocbot | mbtamuli12: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:15.23 | kblin | !support | Dragooon |
| 14:15.23 | gsocbot | Dragooon: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
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| 15:22.39 | JosefWeinbub | Hi, quick question: A student interested in our org would be employed till the end of March so it would overlap with the application deadline with a few days. Is this an issue? (The rules are not explicit whether the employment rule is relative to submission, acceptance or general program runtime.) Any insights? |
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| 15:31.19 | nicolassebrecht | JosefWeinbub: I guess it's up to you to decide if that fits to your pre-requisites. |
| 15:32.05 | nicolassebrecht | JosefWeinbub: However, I wouldn't support because this mean few free time to actually prepare the GSoC. |
| 15:34.00 | JosefWeinbub | ok, thank you |
| 15:35.03 | nicolassebrecht | JosefWeinbub: As a mentor, I'm passing DAYS to have students setting the devel environment right. |
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| 15:35.16 | nicolassebrecht | s/setting/setting up/ |
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| 15:35.37 | nicolassebrecht | and it's just Python... |
| 15:35.38 | darnir | nicolassebrecht: It really depends on the org, student and effort needed to set up the dev env. |
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| 15:36.02 | darnir | Plus, if they manage to write a good proposal in that period, I would be willing to give them a shot. |
| 15:36.25 | nicolassebrecht | darnir: Sure. I'm providing samples of "where few time for preparation" could hurt. |
| 15:37.27 | JosefWeinbub | thank you both for your opinion, I think I know how to handle this now. Cheers! |
| 15:37.48 | nicolassebrecht | IOW, try to think "a priori" rather than "add hoc". |
| 15:37.52 | darnir | With my project, if the student can spend enough time to write a good proposal and discuss it with us before the deadline, I would not count it agianst hir |
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| 15:43.05 | anth_x | Is there a way for rejected orgs to view their applications? |
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| 15:47.29 | kvps | i have question regarding the selection of project, all the project which are given by an origination will be done |
| 15:47.39 | kvps | or not |
| 15:48.44 | darnir | kvps: What exactly is your question? |
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| 15:52.56 | kvps | i want to ask about the project ideas which are provided by the company , will all those ideas will be implemented into a project |
| 15:52.58 | kvps | or not |
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| 15:55.19 | diehlpk_work | kvps, Mostly the projects where students apply for are done in my organisation |
| 15:55.23 | parth1682 | hi |
| 15:55.50 | anth_x | kvps: not necessarily. they are ideas, suggestions for what the organization (not company) things students could work on. the org will select from the submitted proposals. |
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| 15:57.03 | parth1682 | what is the criteria for getting your proposal accepted |
| 15:58.30 | anth_x | well, really you'd have to ask the org you're applying to, but in general: clearly explain what you intend to do and provide enough information to convince them you have a good shot at success. |
| 16:00.33 | parth1682 | do i have to do somtin for that org to get selected |
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| 16:05.06 | diehlpk_work | parth1682, Helpful would be to get in contact with the org and discuss with them about the project you intend to aplly for |
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| 16:27.20 | parth1682 | is there any guide online |
| 16:28.22 | oddvar | see https://g.co/gsoc |
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| 16:43.00 | howard_ | Hi admins, are we allowed to submit versions of the proposal for the idea? i'm currently reading the student manual and it says that we should submit our proposals early to get feedback, which implies that we'll be able to make revisions before the formal submission deadline? |
| 16:43.12 | howard_ | multiple versions* |
| 16:44.03 | howard_ | multiple verisons of the proposal for an idea* |
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| 16:45.24 | meflin | thats how it worked in previous years , revisions |
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| 17:00.53 | Robert_S | things work differently this year, but you'll still be able to iterate your proposal before the final submission. |
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| 19:05.56 | nightwalker | hey guys |
| 19:06.15 | nightwalker | why is this channel so quite all the time?? |
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| 19:16.37 | JordiGH | is very distrustful of "career" gsockers who send out 5 different applications to 5 different orgs. |
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| 19:20.55 | AlexP11223 | nightwalker: everyone is working hard for their org :) |
| 19:21.29 | nightwalker | Oh really ! you aren't ;-) |
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| 20:11.43 | Calinou | JordiGH, how many applications would you advise sending, and to how many orgs? |
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| 20:14.32 | JordiGH | Calinou: Maybe two? I don't know. I'm very skeptical of being really invested in it if you do more than two. |
| 20:14.41 | Calinou | sounds good |
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| 20:16.34 | Robert_S | Hrm, not too much of a fuss on the channel overnight. |
| 20:17.02 | Robert_S | JordiGH: The new participation limit should help with that. |
| 20:19.41 | meflin | what is the current limit? |
| 20:19.56 | Robert_S | It's in the rules, I think it's now 3 times. (But check the rules to be sure.) |
| 20:20.17 | nightwalker | 5 is max |
| 20:20.29 | nightwalker | aim for 1 or 2 , |
| 20:20.33 | bee2502_ | @Robert_S : participation limit ? |
| 20:20.38 | nightwalker | quality>>quantity |
| 20:21.08 | Robert_S | Ineligible Individuals. A Student may not participate in the Program if: He or she has participated as a Student in Google Summer of Code three (3) or more times previously. |
| 20:21.39 | Robert_S | http://g.co/gsoc/rules |
| 20:22.27 | nightwalker | oooooooooooo |
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| 20:24.27 | meflin | hmm so does your dashbord auto-refresh? |
| 20:24.35 | Robert_S | No. |
| 20:24.57 | meflin | works for me :) |
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| 22:29.31 | Freso | sbeller_: I've never coded any games nor done programming assignments related to my education. |
| 22:30.04 | Freso | sbeller_: My first love was making websites/web programming. |
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| 22:36.57 | Freso | kblin: Looking at old Perl code is a necessity in my org... :| |
| 22:39.34 | Freso | Valodim: Also, apart from the pre-university requirement, your birthday can lie so you turn 18 just prior to GCI but after GSoC. This is not really an issue though, IMO, as that doesn't in the end rob them of a year from either, just means they may have to take a year's break. |
| 22:40.06 | Robert_S | People who lie about their birthdays will be removed from the program. |
| 22:45.40 | Freso | I don't think I implied that anyone lied about their birthday? |
| 22:46.39 | Freso | I'm just saying that if someone turns 18 in, say, October, they'll not have been able to take part in neither GSoC nor GCI of that year. |
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| 22:47.52 | Freso | But they'll still have been able to do 5 years of GCI and with the limit on GSoCs now, they'll still have 3 years of that. |
| 22:48.26 | Robert_S | Freso: yes. |
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| 23:02.50 | olly | Robert_S: to clear up the confusion, when Freso said "your birthday can lie" that's "lie" as in "be positioned" |
| 23:03.03 | olly | had to reread it to get that parse |
| 23:03.12 | Freso | Oh, right. |
| 23:03.22 | Freso | Yes, that. :) |
| 23:04.01 | Freso | So I guess I did unintentionally imply that one would lie about their birthday. |
| 23:04.06 | Freso | Oops. :) |
| 23:05.08 | Freso | (Speaking of, we went through the trouble of verifying a virth certificate that in the end turned out to be falsified: http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2016/03/08/beware-of-the-web-sherriff/ ) |
| 23:05.11 | Freso | *birth |
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| 23:06.28 | Robert_S | nice catch |
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