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| 01:11.42 | benstrumental | Can we rely on the https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ specific organization pages to remain static throughout website updates? |
| 01:12.09 | benstrumental | i.e. our links won't go dead after some website updates? |
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| 01:33.57 | olly | when I invite a mentor, does the email address I give for them matter so long as it reaches them? |
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| 01:34.20 | olly | i.e. is the "magic ticket" they get transferrable, or do they need to use a google account tied to the address I give |
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| 01:53.02 | Robert_S | olly: magic ticket. |
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| 01:53.23 | Robert_S | benstrumental: Yes, but you're gone. |
| 01:55.01 | olly | Robert_S: great, thanks |
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| 02:30.00 | pjn | !logs |
| 02:30.00 | gsocbot | pjn: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 03:00.11 | Manoj | #jquery-ui |
| 03:02.59 | Robert_S | goes home. |
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| 03:32.28 | Manoj | #jquery-ui |
| 03:32.46 | thiago_ | did any other mentor receive the "parental consent form" email by mistake? |
| 03:32.55 | thiago_ | because if not, I must have typed my birthday wrong |
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| 03:34.35 | olly | thiago: take it as a compliment on your youthful looks |
| 03:35.25 | thiago | or... a criticism on my typing and attention to detail skills |
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| 03:37.56 | olly | it was a huge drop down for birth year when I did it |
| 03:38.05 | thiago | right, but you could type too |
| 03:38.09 | olly | it struct me as a much worse UI than just typing 4 numbers |
| 03:38.10 | olly | d'oh |
| 03:38.13 | thiago | good drop-downs allow you to do it |
| 03:38.21 | olly | and there was me scrolling for what felt like minute |
| 03:38.22 | olly | +s |
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| 03:41.29 | thiago | I hate forms that can't be edited by keyboard (tabbing, etc.) |
| 03:41.50 | thiago | some of the newfangled HTML5-fancy forms require mouse and don't work as regular forms do |
| 03:42.06 | thiago | gsoc's was working properly |
| 03:42.22 | thiago | is afraid of all those smart IoT devices being worse than their dumb counterparts |
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| 03:45.12 | Manoj | #jquery-ui |
| 03:45.50 | olly | Manoj: you want: /join #jquery-ui |
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| 03:46.13 | Manoj | yes |
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| 05:38.23 | SHASHI | hi gsoc |
| 05:38.37 | SHASHI | i want to know that how many proposols we can send |
| 05:38.50 | SHASHI | is anyone around here |
| 05:39.25 | SHASHI | hi goc |
| 05:39.48 | SHASHI | hi gsoc |
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| 05:43.07 | anuj | SHASHI, Hey focus on quality than quantity |
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| 05:43.24 | anuj | and number you will get to know on 15 |
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| 05:44.16 | anuj | !next |
| 05:44.17 | gsocbot | anuj: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc |
| 05:45.20 | SHASHI | hi anuj but as far as i know we can send max five proposols |
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| 05:49.47 | anuj | SHASHI, If you maintain quality 5 is more than enough. And I am student like you. Most of volentiers are from europien time line. So if want real in depth info. Come 4 hours later |
| 05:50.25 | SHASHI | hey anuj do u have fb account |
| 05:50.40 | SHASHI | and wat college u are from? |
| 05:51.15 | SHASHI | as i am newbie i am finding too much confusion |
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| 05:51.44 | anuj | Not using fb these days. And I am not from a very famous college |
| 05:53.02 | anuj | SHASHI, try reading this and you will be better |
| 05:53.04 | anuj | !studentguide |
| 05:53.04 | gsocbot | anuj: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 05:57.19 | SHASHI | anuj it doesn't matter wat college u are from wat matters is your sheer detemination to change the world |
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| 05:59.15 | ashmew2 | anuj: FWIW, I was from a non-famous college and participated in GSoC twice when i was a college student. |
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| 06:01.23 | anuj | ashmew2, I am not down for anything. Just hate a bit the question of asking for name of college. BTW thanks. :) |
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| 06:02.32 | anuj | Can't see any need of asking for it |
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| 06:12.35 | ashmew2 | anuj: They just want to know that you go to a real college . |
| 06:13.01 | ashmew2 | anuj: Don't worry about it. |
| 06:13.32 | anuj | ashmew2, okay thanks :) |
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| 06:15.14 | anuj | ashmew2, you are participating as mentor this year? |
| 06:15.42 | ashmew2 | anuj: Yes, I'm a mentor for KolibriOS . |
| 06:15.55 | ashmew2 | anuj: I didn't get time in my final year for GSoC so participated in 2nd and 3rd year |
| 06:16.45 | olly | it's also used for statistics |
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| 06:18.04 | anuj | ashmew2, cool :) |
| 06:18.15 | ashmew2 | anuj: Good Luck :) |
| 06:18.34 | anuj | ashmew2, thanks |
| 06:18.45 | olly | which can be a bit counterproductive - a few places seem to push students to apply hoping to get a high "score" |
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| 06:20.37 | anuj | olly, was that for name of college thing? |
| 06:20.48 | olly | yes |
| 06:20.57 | anuj | ok :) |
| 06:22.09 | olly | anuj: http://google-opensource.blogspot.co.nz/2015/05/gsoc-2015-stats-part-2-universities_6.html |
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| 06:23.52 | anuj | olly, India seems to be pushing too far |
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| 06:24.36 | olly | maybe, though there could be many reasons why a lot of people from one uni apply |
| 06:25.15 | olly | it could have a large number of comp sci students, could be word of mouth from previous gsoc participants |
| 06:25.47 | anuj | A proper guidance |
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| 07:04.43 | krnth | What according to use is the best organisation for beginner with c++ and python knowledge? |
| 07:04.51 | krnth | according to you* |
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| 07:15.43 | valorie | krnth: according to me, an admin for KDE: KDE |
| 07:16.04 | valorie | but only your own opinion is meaningful |
| 07:16.18 | valorie | find an org you would love to work with, and go for it |
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| 07:17.11 | krnth | But since I didn't contribute to any open source organisations as such until now, what steps can I take to be considered? |
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| 07:27.00 | valorie | krnth: start contributing |
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| 07:27.35 | valorie | fix bugs, fix documentation, and anything else you can think of |
| 07:30.33 | krnth | Thanks for you advice, Valorie. |
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| 07:47.24 | apps | !numapps' |
| 07:47.28 | apps | !numapps |
| 07:47.28 | gsocbot | apps: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 07:47.50 | apps | !when |
| 07:47.50 | gsocbot | apps: "when" is later |
| 07:47.57 | apps | !next |
| 07:47.58 | gsocbot | apps: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc |
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| 07:48.44 | krnth | !numapps |
| 07:48.44 | gsocbot | krnth: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 07:54.58 | OrkoHunter | !help |
| 07:54.58 | gsocbot | OrkoHunter: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| 08:16.54 | kblin | morning folks |
| 08:17.14 | kblin | apps: it's hard to recommand an org. There's so many great ones |
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| 08:18.01 | apps | i am thinking of mlpack. |
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| 08:38.45 | kblin | then go for it :) |
| 08:39.36 | kblin | every year at about this time, I'm a bit sad I'm not a student anymore. there's so many cool projects to work with |
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| 08:44.07 | anuj | link is broken https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/tax-form |
| 08:44.32 | anuj | http 404 |
| 08:44.38 | kblin | where is that linked from? |
| 08:44.56 | anuj | https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/help/ |
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| 08:45.04 | anuj | Tax form instruction |
| 08:45.28 | kblin | not like that's needed until after you're accepted |
| 08:45.41 | kblin | !email |
| 08:45.41 | gsocbot | kblin: "email" is try !emails instead |
| 08:45.43 | kblin | !emails |
| 08:45.43 | gsocbot | kblin: "emails" is (#1) You will get one email per proposal you submitted. As you can only be accepted for one proposal, expect that you get rejected emails for all the others you sent in even if you got accepted., or (#2) It takes some time for thousands of emails to be sent. Please be patient and don't draw conclusions if you hear that others have already received their confirmations. |
| 08:45.48 | kblin | nah |
| 08:45.54 | kblin | !support |
| 08:45.57 | kblin | bah |
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| 08:47.21 | kblin | !learn support as If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 08:47.22 | gsocbot | kblin: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 08:47.47 | kblin | anuj: so feel free to report the broken link at the above email address |
| 08:48.06 | anuj | kblin, Thanks. |
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| 09:25.17 | neurotic-cheetah | hi, i'm a student who has deferred my enrollment til next year, can i still participate? |
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| 09:26.11 | valorie | neurotic-cheetah: please read the rules |
| 09:26.17 | valorie | !faq |
| 09:26.17 | gsocbot | valorie: "faq" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq |
| 09:26.54 | neurotic-cheetah | valorie: thanks for reminding me, i did but i just wanted to clarify |
| 09:26.58 | neurotic-cheetah | valorie: thanks |
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| 09:42.44 | juanmont | hi |
| 09:43.47 | juanmont | This is the IRC GSOC 2016?? |
| 09:44.13 | MatthewWilkes | juanmont: It is |
| 09:44.40 | juanmont | ok thanks |
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| 09:49.02 | rick__ | Hello does any org has Django/python based great projects? |
| 09:49.17 | MatthewWilkes | rick__: Django and Python will probably have some ;) |
| 09:49.29 | MatthewWilkes | rick__: I recommend searching the org list and having a read through their ideas lists |
| 09:49.55 | rick__ | are u one of the mentor of org? |
| 09:49.57 | MatthewWilkes | Bear in mind, too, that you can propose your own idea |
| 09:50.19 | MatthewWilkes | I am a mentor for Plone, we're a Python based CMS but we're quite different to Django. |
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| 09:51.12 | rick__ | So does ur org has projects to get started with? |
| 09:51.40 | MatthewWilkes | Every one of the 180 accepted orgs does, many of which involve Python |
| 09:51.56 | MatthewWilkes | You should pick based on what you're enthusiastic about, not based on who's awake when you ask on IRC ;) |
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| 10:00.58 | kblin | I count 77 projects that show up when you search for "python" |
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| 10:35.16 | Regit | Hello, I would like to check if admin for a project can also be mentor |
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| 10:37.13 | MatthewWilkes | Regit: I believe so, however unless you're a small org it might be harder than you expect |
| 10:37.40 | MatthewWilkes | Regit: In a perfect world, how many students would your org have? |
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| 11:12.13 | Regit | MatthewWilkes: we had something like 4 at our best GSOC (we are small org) |
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| 11:12.47 | MatthewWilkes | Regit: You should be able to handle it then. I'm not sure if the rules have changed this year, but I can't see any indication they have |
| 11:13.16 | Regit | Ok thanks a lot MatthewWilkes |
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| 11:29.20 | pjn_ | !timeline |
| 11:29.20 | gsocbot | pjn_: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline |
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| 11:55.33 | ShubhamDash94_ | hi |
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| 12:19.45 | oddvar | hey guys, do orgs get to participate in selecting projects for GSoC? |
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| 12:21.19 | blast007 | oddvar: Organizations are the ones who decide which students they'd want to accept. Google doesn't get involved with the selection criteria, they just allocate slots. |
| 12:21.27 | oddvar | oh, nice |
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| 12:22.42 | oddvar | how does the slots get allocated? |
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| 12:22.50 | oddvar | are they related to the number of applications? |
| 12:25.00 | blast007 | I *think* as part of the application organizations list how many slots they'd like, if accepted into the program. Google of course has an overall slot limit, and might give fewer slots to an organization (say, if there's a new org that asked for 4, they might give 2, since new orgs can underestimate the amount of work involved). |
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| 12:25.57 | oddvar | ok, I'm fairly sure there was no number in the application |
| 12:26.24 | blast007 | k, it's been since I was part of GSoC, and I was just a mentor :) |
| 12:26.54 | oddvar | ok - thanks |
| 12:27.58 | blast007 | there's also times in the student selection process where an organization might give a slot back to the pool (say, if they couldn't find enough good student applications) and then Google can give that slot to another organization that would really like to get another student |
| 12:28.15 | oddvar | alright |
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| 12:28.59 | Caroga | Hi, im looking for a IRC channel on google pagespeed, cant seem to find it. Anyone happens to know if it even exists and where? |
| 12:29.35 | blast007 | Caroga: it may not exist. This channel is just for Google Summer of Code and Google Code-in. |
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| 12:30.01 | Caroga | Yeah this was the closest I found, hoped anyone may know of its existence. |
| 12:30.30 | Caroga | ill continue my quest |
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| 13:00.04 | deshrajdry | Hi guys, I have a question. Can we participate as a student in one organization being Mentor for another organization. |
| 13:01.01 | ChrisBr | deshrajdry: afaik no, have a look at the FAQ |
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| 13:01.50 | deshrajdry | ChrisBr: Are you sure ? |
| 13:02.02 | MatthewWilkes | deshrajdry: That is covered in the rules. You may not. |
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| 13:05.20 | felipevolpone | hey guys. It's expected that I work how many hours on the project? or it depends on the project? |
| 13:05.31 | Valodim | gsoc is a full time job |
| 13:06.24 | Valodim | there is some leeway, for example many students have exams inbetween where they take time off. but in principle, it's twelve weeks where you should have no other major committments |
| 13:07.05 | felipevolpone | ok, thank you Valodim |
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| 13:10.35 | Freso | Re: universities trying to rank high in the GSoC stats, perhaps publish a ratio of succesful vs. accepted vs. not-accepted-to-begin-with for each university? |
| 13:11.21 | Freso | Indian or other universities/colleges that just push all students to apply for GSoC may experience a drop in the stat if 200 apply but only 1 is accepted... and then proceeds to not succeed. |
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| 13:58.25 | ananyo | Hello. Is someone available from the publiclab.org |
| 14:02.06 | MatthewWilkes | !anyone | ananyo |
| 14:02.06 | gsocbot | ananyo: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015 |
| 14:02.13 | MatthewWilkes | damn it |
| 14:02.16 | MatthewWilkes | !forget anyone |
| 14:02.17 | gsocbot | MatthewWilkes: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:02.44 | MatthewWilkes | !learn anyone as Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ |
| 14:02.45 | gsocbot | MatthewWilkes: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ |
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| 14:49.06 | wanni | anyone guide me to subscribe to apache mailing list?? |
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| 14:51.28 | Slurpee | wanni, are you referring http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html which I found on https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5694656234913792/ by looking at the GSoC 2016 accepted orgs @ https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ ? |
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| 14:54.16 | wanni | Slurpee, yeah! I sent a message to list-subscribe@apache.org as described, but no any response |
| 14:55.16 | blast007 | wanni: You'd have to ask the Apache group then. They have IRC channels too. |
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| 14:58.24 | wanni | @blast007 I already did, but no response yet |
| 14:59.13 | Slurpee | wanni, be patient, orgs were notified of being accepted less than 24 hours ago. |
| 15:00.26 | wanni | @Slurpee OK I'll be waiting then, thanks for your time |
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| 15:02.50 | vijay321 | hi |
| 15:03.15 | panzone | vijay321: hi |
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| 15:21.27 | Freso | !support |
| 15:21.28 | gsocbot | Freso: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
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| 15:33.55 | khrotan | hello |
| 15:34.07 | tachyons | !next |
| 15:34.08 | gsocbot | tachyons: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc |
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| 15:46.49 | oddvar | any admins here? how many slots are orgs likely to be offered? |
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| 15:47.14 | thiago | oddvar: anywhere from 2 to 50 |
| 15:47.20 | thiago | depends on a lot of factors |
| 15:47.22 | thiago | (I'm not an admin) |
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| 15:49.28 | oddvar | ok - thanks |
| 15:49.34 | oddvar | I'm wondering what those factors are :) |
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| 15:50.53 | MatthewWilkes | oddvar: I am not an admin, but they likely include: How many you want, how many mentors you have, feedback from past students, how long you've been a mentoring org |
| 15:50.58 | gevaerts | (a) how many the orgs ask for (you *never* get more), (b) how experienced the org is, (c) other |
| 15:51.30 | oddvar | ok thanks all |
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| 16:42.47 | JordiGH | I remember that there was a FAQ somewhere that explained why "sir" should be avoided on GSoC. |
| 16:43.12 | JordiGH | Can someone remember where it was? I want to add its wording to our chatbot's factoids. |
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| 16:45.34 | JordiGH | Hey, no more carols this year? |
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| 16:46.51 | Freso | JordiGH: Carol resigned last year. sttaylor is the new GCI and GSoC lead. |
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| 16:47.16 | kremlin | :( |
| 16:47.36 | Freso | !carols |
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| 16:47.58 | JordiGH | Did carols do GSoC 2015? |
| 16:48.00 | Freso | !learn carols as Carol resigned in 2015. sttaylor is the new GCI and GSoC lead. |
| 16:48.00 | gsocbot | Freso: "carols" is Carol resigned in 2015. sttaylor is the new GCI and GSoC lead. |
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| 16:48.14 | Valodim | carols is tea and coffee |
| 16:48.23 | Freso | Cheers gsocbot :) |
| 16:48.29 | Freso | JordiGH: Yes. |
| 16:49.29 | gevaerts | would say "left" would sound better than "resigned" |
| 16:49.42 | JordiGH | I just wrote: |
| 16:49.45 | JordiGH | "Sir" sounds excessively formal to us. Also, it assumes that you are talking to a man, which might not be true. Just omit the "sir". IRC nicknames are fine as a substitute. |
| 16:49.50 | JordiGH | Does that sound friendly enough? |
| 16:50.01 | Freso | !forget carols |
| 16:50.01 | gevaerts | !sir |
| 16:50.03 | gsocbot | Freso: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:50.04 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "sir" is y'all! |
| 16:50.12 | gevaerts | JordiGH: I'd say that's just fine |
| 16:50.16 | Freso | !learn carols as Carol left in 2015. sttaylor is the new GCI and GSoC lead. |
| 16:50.17 | gsocbot | Freso: "carols" is Carol left in 2015. sttaylor is the new GCI and GSoC lead. |
| 16:50.43 | Valodim | yeah addressing people with "sir" is definitely not the level of formality I'd want from a student |
| 16:51.06 | Freso | Mhm. |
| 16:51.21 | JordiGH | I think it's the standard form of address in parts of India. Some people seem to have instinctive tic to always prepend with 'sir'. |
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| 16:51.35 | Freso | It is. |
| 16:51.45 | Valodim | I have to admit I find it quite annoying |
| 16:51.55 | Freso | I told an Indian GCI student not to use it, and they were like "but we have to!!111eæj32e!!" |
| 16:52.18 | JordiGH | "we have to"? |
| 16:52.35 | gevaerts | The impression I get is that some people address everyone as "sir" while others use "u" and "ur". I like the ones in between :) |
| 16:52.36 | Freso | I can dig up their exact words in my logs if you really must know. |
| 16:52.47 | JordiGH | Hehe, no, it's ok. |
| 16:52.59 | JordiGH | gevaerts: I often see both sir and ur from the same person. |
| 16:53.00 | Valodim | haha, yeah "u" is the worst |
| 16:53.18 | gevaerts | JordiGH: yes, I don't understand those at all! |
| 16:53.25 | kremlin | 'my liege' |
| 16:53.34 | JordiGH | "Your Codeness" |
| 16:54.20 | gevaerts | Luckily gsocbot knows what u and ur are |
| 16:54.22 | gevaerts | !U |
| 16:54.22 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "U" is the chemical symbol for Uranium, a silvery-white metallic chemical element in the actinide series of the periodic table with atomic number 92 |
| 16:54.24 | gevaerts | !ur |
| 16:54.25 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "ur" is Ur was an ancient city located near the modern village of Tell el-Muqayyar |
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| 16:55.36 | hatim | !faq |
| 16:55.37 | gsocbot | hatim: "faq" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq |
| 16:55.53 | JordiGH | Wait, is there no more melange this year? |
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| 16:58.31 | Freso | JordiGH: Nope. ;) |
| 16:58.41 | Freso | Welcome to the reign of sttaylor! |
| 16:58.41 | JordiGH | Yay! |
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| 16:58.58 | JordiGH | So what's the Indian female equivalent to "sir"? |
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| 16:59.36 | heller | Do you still rotate organizations so that the ones not showing on the first page will eventually bubble up at some point in time? |
| 17:00.29 | Freso | JordiGH: ma'm or madam, I'd guess. |
| 17:00.32 | Freso | Or miss. |
| 17:01.08 | hatim | Freso: what do you mean by reign of sttaylor? |
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| 17:02.01 | firefart | @shubham__: yo |
| 17:02.06 | Freso | hatim: sttaylor is the showrunner of GCI and GSoC. Both of which used melange before under carols' "reign", but are now on... whatever the new system(s) is/are called. |
| 17:02.20 | Freso | I doubt that the two are connected though. |
| 17:02.30 | Freso | Correlations! Correlations everywhere! |
| 17:02.44 | gevaerts | Well, GCI has been sttaylor's responsibility for a while already |
| 17:03.12 | hatim | Freso: well the new system certainly looks better than the old. thanks anyway ;) |
| 17:03.15 | gevaerts | And the decision to replace melange is at least a year old, if my correlations are as good as Freso's :) |
| 17:03.56 | Freso | JordiGH: Keep in mind that India is a former part of the British Empire, so most courtesies etc. are what they would be in England. |
| 17:04.13 | gevaerts | remembers the confusion in this channel when URL guessing showed that melange hadn't applied to gsoc 2015 |
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| 17:06.00 | hatim | JordiGH: if you don't mind, why do you ask? |
| 17:06.39 | JordiGH | hatim: I wonder why everyone seems to assume they're talking to a male. |
| 17:07.15 | Valodim | maybe they aren't |
| 17:07.17 | JordiGH | I don't think I've seen a verbal tic-like female equivalent to "sir". |
| 17:07.27 | JordiGH | So I wonder if "sir" is also intended to apply to women? |
| 17:07.36 | Freso | Male forms are commonly also the genderless/gender neutral form as well. |
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| 17:07.47 | JordiGH | Yeah, so I wonder if Indians also intend to use "sir" for women. |
| 17:08.14 | hatim | JordiGH: i concur with your observation. i have witnessed it at several occasion's. |
| 17:08.57 | hatim | but i can definitely say Indian's won't intend to use 'sir' for women |
| 17:09.41 | hatim | btw, JordiGH are you aspring for gsoc this year? |
| 17:10.12 | JordiGH | Only if I see an immediately interesting student. Right now, I'm just trying to keep #octave polite. |
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| 17:30.06 | pjn_ | !manual |
| 17:30.47 | blueness | hi gsoc gurus, i was supposed to get an invitaiton from https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ but never did. not sure whatâs wrong. how should I proceed? |
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| 17:37.25 | Freso | blueness: Ask your admin to cancel and add again. You could also wait a tad longer. |
| 17:37.44 | Freso | There are still some time until students can actually apply, so there's no real rush. |
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| 17:39.05 | blueness | thanks! |
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| 17:40.14 | gsocbot | pjn_: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline |
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| 18:39.39 | tachyons | << <JordiGH> So I wonder if "sir" is also intended to apply to women? >> We use madam or ma'am , and Sir if gender is not mentioned |
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| 18:40.13 | Ck | Hi |
| 18:41.31 | Guest77989 | I have completed my graduation in 2015...So Do I eligible for GSoC? |
| 18:42.17 | tachyons | Guest77989, No |
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| 18:43.25 | Guest77989 | You mean I should be a student of university/collage in current date? |
| 18:43.30 | teepee | Guest77989: the faq is pretty clear about that |
| 18:43.40 | teepee | !faq | Guest77989 |
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| 18:54.05 | G3nka1 | guys is the 2016 organization list out ? |
| 18:54.15 | teepee | yes |
| 18:54.18 | Guest85169 | Yea |
| 18:54.37 | G3nka1 | https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ this is the link that has all the organizations ? |
| 18:54.56 | teepee | yes, all 180 of them |
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| 18:56.20 | G3nka1 | damn freenet is not there :/ my summer is in vain again |
| 18:56.36 | G3nka1 | can i still apply to other organizations or is it too late ? |
| 18:56.53 | teepee | application period just started |
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| 18:58.22 | G3nka1 | but teepee I havent worked to any os org before can i blindly apply based on my intrest and hope for getting gsoc ? |
| 18:59.19 | teepee | G3nka1: sure, I guess that's what a good number of students do. that's basically the idea of the whole GSoC :) |
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| 18:59.30 | teepee | well, not the "blindly" part |
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| 19:03.02 | terri | G3nka1: but it is a good idea to talk to them now, as opposed to just putting in an application without interacting with them at all. :) |
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| 19:03.53 | G3nka1 | terri: hmm but what are the chances I can get gsoc this summer ? a realistic figure ? |
| 19:04.30 | teepee | that will totally depend on the project proposal you create |
| 19:04.33 | Freso | G3nka1: Depends entirely on you. |
| 19:04.44 | Freso | As someone said earlier/last night, it is not a "numbers" game. |
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| 19:05.37 | terri | G3nka1: that depends on you! If you're a good fit for the project you want to work on, you've got a pretty high chance, and it's definitely not too late. I'd guess that 70% of our students are only making contact now. |
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| 19:06.25 | G3nka1 | Freso: in the sense ? Well I have a good background so far I haveinterned at 2 organizations and learnt quite a few things, but my question is how will they choose me out of so many kids who apply what is the criteria ? |
| 19:06.34 | G3nka1 | terri: |
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| 19:08.11 | heller | G3nka1: ask them |
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| 19:08.56 | terri | G3nka1: everyone uses slightly different criteria, but it boils down to "do we think you can complete the project you're proposing" -- quite a lot of orgs are quite clear about what they expect from their students if you take a look at th elinks from their ideas pages. |
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| 19:10.15 | G3nka1 | ah so first thing I got to do is contact the organizations see if I can get a project, then apply at gsoc page ? |
| 19:10.42 | terri | No, the first thing you do is narrow down your list of organizatoins to one or two you want to contact. don't send an email to everyone! |
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| 19:12.45 | terri | Then you follow the instructions they give on their page for getting started |
| 19:12.46 | terri | Then once you've got an idea of ht eproject you want to do with them, you ask questions about that project |
| 19:12.47 | terri | you might have some questions when you're following the getting started instructions too, of course! |
| 19:13.47 | terri | And once you've gotten to that point and you understand what the mentors want, you write the application |
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| 19:14.29 | Freso | G3nka1: In the sense that it's not randomised whether one application will be picked over another. |
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| 19:14.54 | Freso | G3nka1: In MetaBrainz we have a baseline of criteria, if the applicant doesn't fulfill those, we don't even look at their application to begin with. |
| 19:15.10 | terri | I think you can still submit up to 5 applications for different projects with different orgs or even the same one, but you probably want to narrow it down to one or two that you're really interested in and make them really awesome if you want to have the highest chance of getting in. |
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| 19:15.49 | Alex11223 | In org ideas lists I see that some projects are much easier than others. Do they have the same chances to be accepted during application period? btw, the student applications are approved by Google or by the organization itself? |
| 19:16.19 | G3nka1 | Freso: coincednlty I was on your website reading about page |
| 19:16.32 | terri | Alex11223: it's all the organization, google just provides us a framework and support |
| 19:17.49 | G3nka1 | Freso: cassendra or kaffka for data storage and efficient query processing at metabrainz ? |
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| 19:18.25 | perepujal | Alex11223: Some easy ideas might be considered more urgent/important than some hard ones |
| 19:18.35 | terri | Alex11223: and the answer is "it depends on the organization" -- It's pretty common for mentors to be more excited about some ideas than others, so if you choose one that someone else really wants to mentor and get to knwo exactly what they want, that mentor will tend to advocate for you in selection time |
| 19:18.54 | Freso | G3nka1: I'm not much of a dev. You'll have to ask question in #metabrainz instead. But also note that hand-holding and getting an application accepted are reversely proportional. |
| 19:19.18 | Freso | I don't juggle code, just people. :p |
| 19:19.23 | Freso | (And text.) |
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| 19:19.57 | G3nka1 | Freso: i never intended to hand hold you, it was a genuine doubt |
| 19:20.30 | terri | Alex11223: The best way to figure this out is to go to the org and ask questions about the projects and how they fit into the overall goals of the organization. |
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| 19:21.03 | Freso | G3nka1: I trust that whomever picked those technologies did it for a good reason. |
| 19:21.27 | Freso | That doesn't mean that you're not allowed to question it, but I'm not the one who'd be able to reply to such questioning. :) |
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| 19:22.31 | terri | Alex11223: if you narrow down your options to a few projects, mentors are often happy to steer you towards one that is most important, is the best fit for your skills, has fewest other good applicants already, tec. |
| 19:22.38 | terri | s/tec./etc./ |
| 19:22.43 | G3nka1 | Freso: yes and I am currently working on apache storm and asked you about it to see if they align to my current work, that was really the end to it. |
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| 19:27.20 | terri | Alex11223: narrowing it down first is important, though. mentors get *really* sick of answering the general level questoins so you make the best impression if you've narrowed things down a lot on your own *and* read what other people have asked about first. |
| 19:28.03 | Freso | G3nka1: Like I said, ¯\_(ã)_/¯ - I'm not involved with that part of our affairs. :) |
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| 20:30.27 | decause | waves to the folks |
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| 20:46.45 | nnn_ | hi |
| 20:47.11 | nnn_ | if im woking from last one year |
| 20:47.22 | nnn_ | can i participate? |
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| 21:50.46 | ktsakas | reactos? |
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| 22:10.35 | catallman | Hi everyone. |
| 22:10.57 | downey | hi cat :-) |
| 22:11.02 | mbr0wn | haaay |
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| 22:16.41 | Lovkesh | New to gsoc. Help me get started |
| 22:17.55 | perepujal | Lovkesh: analize your interests, find an org that meets them, get involved with it |
| 22:18.39 | edunham | Lovkesh: read the docs linked from /topic , ask questions that the docs don't answer in here |
| 22:18.49 | Lovkesh | How I come know that my concepts are enough |
| 22:19.43 | perepujal | !amIgoodenough |
| 22:19.43 | gsocbot | perepujal: "amIgoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 22:20.09 | perepujal | Lovkesh: the link above |
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