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01:28.45SlurpeeTobbi, might want to reset your password...
01:29.00TobbiWhat?
01:29.02TobbiNot me.
01:30.31TobbiSlurpee: You mean tocttou
01:33.40tocttouyeah sorry I added a space before /msg ... is the password identifyable from that hash?
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01:34.19ollyit would be safest to assume so (and this channel is logged)
01:34.21ollydoh
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01:34.54ollytocttou: it would be safest to assume so (and this channel is logged)
01:35.10tocttouokay thanks for informing
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06:45.20akkiWhen will the list of mentoring organisations be announced ?
06:45.59thabrazeMarch 1 (as mentioned on GSoC website)
06:45.59anuj19:00 UTC
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06:47.01akkiI see 29th Feb here
06:47.05akkihttps://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
06:48.05akkithebraze: Is there any other GSOC website I am missing on ?
06:48.32thabrazeNope
06:49.06thabrazeFollow the official site as well as the organization's ideas page. That would be enough.
06:49.24akkiWhere did you see March 1 ?
06:50.23thabrazehttps://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
06:52.16akkiokay :)
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07:31.07anujakki, actually its 19:00 UTC 29 FEB. So it may be 29 or 1 according to your position on the globe
07:31.51akkiIs this written somewhere ?
07:32.05akkithe time, I mean
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07:44.29anujakki, https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
07:46.56akkiAhh, missed on that
07:47.00akkiThanks anuj
07:47.19anujakki, no problem
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13:11.52proximahi i can't access the list of selected organisation for gsoc 2016. can anyone give the link to that? It was supposed to be finalized today!!
13:12.11Valodimit's going to be finalized today. check the schedule.
13:12.53icodemachinePST TIME
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13:13.25proximaokay thanks
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13:21.19sarathkmhow a student can apply for GOC
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13:21.35sarathkmhow a student can apply for GSOC
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13:22.00blast007sarathkm: did you check the timeline and the FAQ?
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13:22.23blast007https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
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13:23.40sarathkmWhere that would be student application ideas discussion happens online with mentors
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13:24.31blast007sarathkm: read through the student manual as well: http://write.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/what-is-google-summer-of-code/
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13:48.11sarathkmblast007: Thanks.
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14:11.03CodeOnHi guys
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14:12.28amsharmaHi CodeOn
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14:23.08smitpatwaHello
14:23.32pjn_Hi smitpatwa
14:25.07nbyourihello guys
14:25.14nbyourihopes the netbsd projects get selected this year
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14:26.49smitpatwaI am new to freenode and don't know how things work here. I am confused i didn't log in or or signup but only entered my nick, is this the way it is supposed to work?
14:27.02aj007yes
14:27.05Valodimsmitpatwa: yeah irc is pretty ad-hoc :)
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14:30.52gevaertsWell, you *can* register
14:31.10gevaertsIf you do, you're guaranteed to be able to use the same nick next time
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15:17.00kattnwhen will the projects release? it says it should have been today
15:17.13The_Freso!timeline
15:17.13gsocbotThe_Freso: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
15:17.18dom9619:00 UTC IIRC
15:17.23ChrisBr!timeline
15:17.23gsocbotChrisBr: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
15:17.43kattnah, different timezone
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15:19.51Valodimsoon
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15:20.01Freso™
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15:21.50Tobbi®
15:21.52Tobbi:P
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15:51.41appsWhen the mentoring organization list will be visible to students?
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15:52.26nbyouriapps: 7pm UTC
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15:52.52appsnbyouri: thanks
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15:53.26Tobbiis excited. Is there anyone in this channel leaking the info in advance? :P
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15:53.57appsis there any organization that will have C,C++ as their language requirements?
15:54.17nbyourinetbsd
15:54.22nbyourifreebsd
15:55.30Tobbiapps: If we get accepted, we do have C++
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15:55.35Tobbi(among other things)
15:55.51TobbiSuperTux is the mentoring project.
15:56.17MatthewWilkesThe people that know who have been accepted probably want to keep their job, I doubt there'll be any leaks.
15:56.33MatthewWilkes;)
15:56.36appsthanks to all
15:57.06TobbiMatthewWilkes: true, true.
15:58.54appsthis is my first time any tips?
15:59.23kblin!studentguide | apps
15:59.23gsocbotapps: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
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15:59.50Tobbiapps: As a student, right?
15:59.57TobbiBecause, this is our first time as mentor org.
16:00.01appsYes mate
16:00.30Tobbihehe, "mate" :D
16:00.39TobbiI sometimes drink that.
16:00.41Tobbirarely, though.
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16:00.51appsheee :P
16:01.12panzonethat manual is really useful. It helped me a lot during my first GSOC.
16:01.37TobbiIf I knew something about computers, I would participate as a student as well.
16:02.28Tobbi:P
16:02.29appswhich org. are you representing
16:02.35Tobbiapps: Do you know SuperTux?
16:02.48appsno sorry
16:03.02TobbiJump'n'Run Linux game.
16:03.11sej_yessssss
16:03.18sej_we know supertux :)
16:03.19TobbiBut, yeah, we got some great ideas...but not sure if we'll get accepted.
16:03.29Tobbisej_: "We"?
16:03.30sej_chill out man
16:03.37sej_we as in linux community
16:03.41Tobbiah :D
16:03.46kblingoogle usually tries to go for a mix of different mentoring orgs
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16:04.04kblinI think games and bioinformatics usually are some of the more contested fields
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16:05.03TobbiHmm...yeah, probably.
16:05.14appsits my first time and the help i received from all is amazing.
16:05.58TobbiActually, I could apply as a student, if we're not an org.
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16:06.56panzoneTobbi: oh, I see a couple of projects in your ideas list that I'm interested to. Bookmarked
16:07.15Tobbipanzone: Thanks, but don't get ahead of yourself.
16:07.20TobbiLet's wait the 3 hours.
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16:09.31sej_hehe
16:09.51panzoneI know, I know. I'm just taking notes of some orgs I would like to apply, if they are selected.
16:10.16Tobbipanzone: What are the others you have on your list? :)
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16:12.28TobbiWe got someone called Nessaa in this channel who is afraid to talk, so I am hereby encouraging him. :)
16:12.42appstobbi : can i choose the same idea which you all purposed in 2014 this year if you get selected as a mentoring org.?
16:12.43TobbiNessaa: See, it's easy. :)
16:12.57Tobbiapps: Huh? We never participated before.
16:13.53appsits in your gsoc 2014 . ONLINE USER ADMINS.
16:14.36appshttp://supertuxkart.sourceforge.net/GSoC_topics_2014 is it yours?
16:15.50Tobbiapps: SuperTux, not SuperTuxKart :D
16:15.53TobbiThose two are different.
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16:16.08appsoh sorry. :P
16:16.39Tobbiapps: But, we closely communicate with each other.
16:16.40Tobbi:)
16:16.50TobbiAka, we're not too far apart.
16:17.36appsoh.
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16:30.08CFS-MP3That SuperTux game looks cool :-)
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16:30.34Guest98055where can we get the list of accepted org?
16:30.45drktrxon the website
16:30.51MatthewWilkesBut only in the future
16:30.54drktrxat 1900utc
16:31.00Guest98055can u send me the link?
16:31.10Guest98055ouu
16:31.10umccullough_xit's right in the topic!
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16:31.34TobbiCFS-MP3: It's been in development for a long time with some spare time in between, we just picked up development recently (in 2014) and released 0.4.0 end of December.
16:32.24MatthewWilkes!when
16:32.33MatthewWilkeshm, is when not later anymore?
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16:34.13drktrxno carols this time?
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16:35.09umccullough_xcarols resigned
16:35.22umccullough_xat least, from gsoc
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16:35.42drktrxoh too bad
16:35.49gevaertsMatthewWilkes: it will be, later
16:36.26TobbiWhat is Carols?
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16:37.38drktrxcarol smith was the gsoc program manager since its inception
16:37.46MatthewWilkesdrktrx: Actually, it used to be lh
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16:38.08TobbiAh
16:38.22TobbiI thought it was a project :D
16:38.30TobbiSo, I googled it and didn't find any.
16:38.32Tobbi:D
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16:43.50umccullough_xin any case, the new program manager is sttaylor
16:44.00umccullough_xwho also has been in charge of GCI
16:46.14CFS-MP3drktrx I think Carol managed GSOC for around 6 years...
16:46.25gevaertshopes nobody will make a carol irc bot
16:46.55xorAxAxin the early days, it was leslie
16:46.58xorAxAxanybody remember leslie?
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16:47.03umccullough_xyep
16:47.09kblinsure
16:47.13CFS-MP3xorAxAx I wasn't around then...
16:47.23drktrxi didnt know
16:47.27umccullough_xguessing that's also lh_ ;)
16:47.29xorAxAxkblin: still remember the dinner at don giovanni in castro street, MTV?
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16:47.52xorAxAxkblin: where they billed us ~40 USD for a mediocre service/food?
16:48.10CFS-MP3steph is nice though... last year she was at Maker Faire with Google
16:48.14kblinxorAxAx: not particularly. was that for one of the first summit?
16:48.21kblin*summits
16:49.03xorAxAxkblin: that was ~2007 maybe?
16:49.05TobbiWhat, you have to pay for food during the summits?
16:49.13CFS-MP3I'm sure I've met some of you personally...what are your orgs? :-)
16:49.21xorAxAxTobbi: well, it was dinner, so not covered by the GSOC mentor summit event
16:49.26TobbiYou certainly haven't met me.
16:49.26CFS-MP3Tobbi no, at least not in the last ones :-)
16:49.37TobbiI only was an intern with Mozilla in 2011.
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16:50.04kblinxorAxAx: figures. I wasn't invited in 2007.I was a student back then
16:50.18xorAxAxi dont remember the exact year
16:50.30TobbiI should've participated in GSoc before.
16:50.33Tobbi:P
16:51.12kblinxorAxAx: I seem to remember that we were at some thai fusion place in 2008 for my first summit
16:51.18TobbiGuys, stop it.
16:51.22TobbiYou're making me envious.
16:51.42TobbiWhen I was in MV, I mostly ate something at Castro St,
16:51.49kblinI have bad memories of castro street, though
16:52.00Tobbikblin: What kind of bad memories?
16:52.23kblinI was stuck at a conference in MTV for a week, and the only places in walking distance were on castro st
16:52.36TobbiSo, where did you go?
16:52.43kblinso I know both places that serve beer after 8pm in MTV
16:52.52kblinboth of them are not too nice
16:52.56TobbiWhich ones?
16:53.02TobbiWonder if I have been to some of them.
16:53.12kblinthe tied house, which is a block off castro st. actually
16:53.30TobbiI often ate at Mongolian BBQ
16:53.34kblinmicrobrewery place, but the coke is drinkable
16:54.01kblinand that irish pub disguised as a disco. or the other way around. I can never tell
16:54.27Tobbi:D
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16:54.58MatthewWilkeskblin: Tied house?
16:55.07kblinor somesuch, yes
16:55.20MatthewWilkesWe had a GSoC event there once during the mentor summit
16:55.30MatthewWilkesI mistook calamari for onion rings. Was a sad time.
16:55.36TobbiI often went to Posh Bagel (?) to get some bagles...
16:55.41kblinyeah, I've been dragged there multiple times
16:55.56kblinbut as I said, they fortunately have soft drinks
16:56.01Tobbioh, and crêpes.
16:56.23TobbiThe crêpes were actually really nice.
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16:58.07kblindunno, haven't been to downtown MTV for quite some years
16:58.43kblinI rarely left the hotels in the last years
16:59.02kblinapart from attending the on-campus events, of course
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17:02.21AnupkumarI am not able to login to gsoc website. Is it like, i will be able to login only after today the mentored organizations are published?
17:02.51appsyes same happened for me
17:03.16kblinit's not like there's much to do beforehand anyway, is there?
17:03.36AnupkumarNope
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17:03.54kblin!patience
17:03.55gsocbotkblin: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
17:04.34benstrumentalDo we know when they announcement will be made today?
17:04.44benstrumentals/they/the/
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17:04.57gevaertsYes
17:05.03pjnIn 2 hours
17:05.07Anupkumarbenstrumental: in around 2 hours
17:05.10benstrumentalcool thanks!
17:05.22kblinor earlier
17:05.28kblinor maybe later :)
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17:05.49pjnEarlier is possible
17:06.01kblinand as gsocbot likes to say
17:06.03kblin!when
17:06.03gsocbotkblin: "when" is later
17:06.15AnupkumarHeheh
17:06.55Anupkumarkblin: you are a part of the organization team I assume
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17:07.04kblinhaha, no
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17:07.25kblinI just help maintain a semblance of order here in the IRC channel
17:07.42kblin!cookie
17:07.42gsocbotkblin: "cookie" is omnomnom
17:07.57TobbiI guess no one can login right now.
17:08.01TobbiMe, neither.
17:08.15Tobbi!chocolate
17:08.20TobbiNope, doesn't like chocolate.
17:08.34kblinthey're probably rolling out some updates before everybody spikes the site later today
17:08.37AnupkumarLooks like gsocbot is similar to firebot when comes to fun
17:08.46MatthewWilkesI'm still logged in, I can confirm that there's nothing to see
17:08.57TobbiMozilla too much, are we, Anupkumar
17:08.59Tobbi?
17:09.13kblinas an org admin, you'll get an email anyway
17:09.22AnupkumarMatthewWilkes: you are able to login??
17:09.28TobbiI see...
17:09.29AnupkumarTobbi: not really
17:09.33MatthewWilkesAnupkumar: The only way to test that is to log out, which I don't plan on doing :P
17:09.41TobbiAnupkumar: How do you know firebot, then?
17:09.49appsanup have u participated before?
17:10.04AnupkumarTobbi: I am a contributor to Mozilla
17:10.30Anupkumarapps: no, didn't get a chance to participate
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17:10.59appsits my first time .
17:11.02TobbiAnupkumar: I was as well.
17:11.14TobbiAnupkumar: I was even an intern in 2011.
17:11.28kblinanyway, time to check out at work before my boss has to yell at me
17:11.33kblintoodles
17:11.41TobbiThat was, when the community was still an actual community....I assume you started after that?
17:12.03TobbiAnupkumar: And let me guess: You do Mozilla Reps or one of these other things such as Webmaker, which I don't like.
17:12.12AnupkumarTobbi: yeah, true that. I started in 2014
17:12.17TobbiSee.
17:12.32TobbiAnupkumar: And what are you working on as a Mozilla contributor?
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17:13.36AnupkumarTobbi: no, I'm not into webmaker. I'm into bug fixings and writing code. Currently I'm working on a few bugs related to telemetry
17:14.07TobbiAnupkumar: You have my respect. :P
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17:14.47TobbiAnupkumar: I was with SUMO, QA and other things when I was a Mozilla contributor.
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17:15.02TobbiQuite a few people knew me. Now they deny ever having known me :P
17:15.06TobbiNo, I'm kidding.
17:15.49downey!next
17:15.50gsocbotdowney: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc
17:15.51AnupkumarHeheh
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17:17.08Tobbi1 hour, 45 minutes to go.
17:17.16Tobbi(I assume)
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18:03.03samirHi guys. I'm junior undergraduate student who's interested in doing Summer of Code for 2016. In general, for companies, do I have need to been working on things before March, or do I have a good shot at getting in just by looking at the accepted organizations' (when they are released) and researching within the next 2 weeks?
18:03.35Tobbi*sigh*
18:03.37Tobbi~timeline
18:03.37infobottimeline is probably the GSoC 2011 timeline is at http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/timeline
18:03.45TobbiWhat?
18:03.47umccullough_xyou mean !timeline
18:03.50Tobbi!timeline
18:03.50gsocbotTobbi: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
18:03.56Tobbisamir: ^^
18:04.41CadairI can't even find our status on the page
18:05.06samirI have seen the timeline. I have read online that most of the accepted applicants talk to companies / work on patches etc before March, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.
18:05.48umccullough_xsamir, to answer your question, i think the answer is: you'll be fine
18:05.58umccullough_xa lot of students don't engage with orgs until they've been announced
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18:06.16umccullough_xit obviously helps if you've already been involved, but it's not a requirement
18:06.16Elena_(y) I heard that too (@samir)
18:06.36panzonesamir: every orgs is different and there isn't a "standard rule". sure, sooner the better but it isn't a problem (unless you wait for the last day)
18:06.50TobbiWe'd even be okay accepting people who don't know anything about computers. I am one of those, anyway.
18:07.03Tobbi:P
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18:07.23samirOkay, thanks.
18:07.24panzoneif it can help you, when I was accepted two years ago I didn't talk to that orgs before the announcement
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18:08.27mbtamuli12panzone: did you have prior experience with any bug/patch before you were accepted?
18:09.27kblinI didn't know infobot had factoids
18:09.39kblinwe only use it for logging :)
18:09.47kblin~forget timeline
18:09.47infobotkblin: i forgot timeline
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18:10.59Tobbikblin: See, learn something new every day.
18:11.09kblinsamir: you might want to read the student guide, though
18:11.15kblin!studentguide | samir
18:11.15gsocbotsamir: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
18:11.32panzonembtamuli12: no, if I remember correctly that was my first contribution to an open source project (except for a couple of personal projects, but I don't think that counts :) )
18:11.42vkmc!timeline
18:11.42gsocbotvkmc: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
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18:13.18TobbiMy first contribution was Mozilla, I believe.
18:13.22TobbiBut I have done a lot.
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18:14.50kblinI'd trott out some of my "back in the olden days" war stories, but to be fair, gsoc has become so much more professional these days
18:15.19kblinI certainly wouldn't accept a student with an application as shoddy as mine was in 2005
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18:16.02TobbiGosh, going through applications could be a pain.
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18:16.21umcculloughit usually is
18:16.34kblindepends
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18:17.18kblinyour org has some sort of a code challenge, right?
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18:18.01hunteriamDoes anyone here know anything about the Haskell GSOC? I have sent a message to #haskell-gsoc but havent heard back yet
18:18.09hunteriamI'm interested in being a student this summer
18:18.28kblinthey'll probably respond once they know if they're a mentoring org this year
18:18.38umcculloughyou might as well wait anohter ~42 mins to see if they're actually selected
18:19.09Tobbikblin: We don't. But we could.
18:19.35hunteriamReally, the selections are today?
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18:19.36gsoc670Have they changed the melange portal this year? The design looks quite different
18:19.38hunteriamWhat a funny coincidence
18:19.48umccullough!timeline | hunteriam
18:19.48gsocbothunteriam: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
18:19.50kblinTobbi: based on personal experience, I would recommend that
18:20.00kblingsoc670: it's not melange anymore, for all I know
18:20.17hunteriamIn terms of career, whats the contrast between participating in a GSOC and getting an Internship?
18:20.33hunteriamIs GSOC more academically geared? Or is it valuable for industry too?
18:20.33umcculloughit's not melange, no
18:21.03hunteriamumccullough: thanks for sharing that with me
18:21.05kblinhunteriam: probably depends on the choice of mentoring org?
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18:21.28hunteriamI don't know much about the orgs, I've only heard about the event through Haskell in fact
18:21.34Tobbikblin: I guess we can still change our application steps?
18:21.41umcculloughi'm not sure gsoc is academic at all :)
18:21.42hunteriamI suppose I'll look through the list later today
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18:21.51kblinTobbi: I don't see why not
18:22.10umcculloughexcept for the fact that you must be enrolled as a student
18:22.11hunteriamumccullough: do you think its wise to participate in GSOC over an internship?
18:22.16kblinapart from possibly being unable to log in right now
18:22.18umcculloughmm... hard to say
18:22.19Tobbikblin: I'll discuss it with the team.
18:22.24umcculloughhunteriam, it's similar, in many ways
18:22.35kblinTobbi: I think a coding challenge is a great first filter
18:22.42hunteriamumccullough: what draws people to GSOC over an internship, then? Is it the freedom of topic?
18:22.50silsI'd recommend GSoC by far over any internship!
18:22.56umcculloughperhaps, contributing to FOSS is pretty nice
18:22.58hunteriamsils: really! Whys that?
18:23.02hunteriamumccullough: Agreed!
18:23.13anujhunteriam, level of learning
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18:23.27silsYou can work on some cool project, it's free and that's all nice but...
18:23.27hunteriamanuj: because you work one on one?
18:23.30gsoc670I'd like to know what the mentors think of "competitive programming" experience?
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18:23.44Tobbicompetitive programming?
18:23.49hunteriamHackathons I think he means
18:23.54umccullougheh
18:23.54anujhunteriam, cause of globle open source exposure
18:23.57gsoc670while evaluating proposals. I mean things like ACM ICPC/ Google Code Jam/ etc.
18:24.00silsthe real thing is that I have made the experience that I learned way more during GSoC than in any company I've worked
18:24.09umcculloughgsoc670, depends on the context, but i would definitely mention it in your proposal
18:24.22hunteriamWell I hope they don't expect it, I tend to shy away from those sorts of things
18:24.28silsbegan teaching people about git at his company internship after the GSoC
18:24.35anujhunteriam, I learned a lot in just one month. That too just trying to fix a fex bugs
18:24.39hunteriamsils: thanks for sharing that
18:25.09kblingsoc670: won't hurt to mention it, but personally I think it'd matter much less to me than e.g. interaction with the applicant during the eval phase
18:25.10gsoc670thanks umccullough
18:25.15Anupkumar!next
18:25.16gsocbotAnupkumar: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc
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18:25.45gsoc670thanks kblin
18:25.48kblincode you knock out while competing for a hackathon usually is very far away from code I want to see in my project
18:26.28gsoc670which org do you represent kblin and umcculough?
18:26.38umcculloughgsoc670, i am an admin for Haiku
18:26.46Anupkumarkblin: google I guess
18:27.01silshunteriam, as for my personal experience after my GSoC I began my own project and with what I've learned from my mentor and the community I managed to grow the community to now 47 contributors. I'm still a student. But now I can give my knowledge to other people on a daily basis.
18:27.03kblingsoc670: this year I'm an admin for the Open Bioinformatics Foundation
18:27.11TobbiOne can see that activity in this channel is increasing.
18:27.18hunteriamumccullough: This haiku? https://www.haiku-os.org/
18:27.18kblinAnupkumar: nah, I've never worked for google
18:27.22umcculloughhunteriam, yes
18:27.42hunteriamsils: wow thats quite a large group of people! Which project is it if you dont mind me asking?
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18:27.54silscoala (coala-analyzer.org)
18:27.54drktrxwhere can i find the logs for this channel?
18:28.02umccullough!logs
18:28.02gsocbotumccullough: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
18:28.02sils47 is the number github shows you as contributors
18:28.11hunteriamumccullough: How experienced are the applicants you typically expect in systems development?
18:28.23drktrxthanks
18:28.24kblindrktrx: but note the logs are updated once per day
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18:28.36drktrxyeah
18:28.40umcculloughhunteriam, it varies, we evaluate a variety of project subjects
18:28.54silsit's only 15 to 20 people active if you look over a timeframe of a week but we manage 5 to 20 daily commits easily
18:28.55kblinheyas cat
18:29.00umcculloughhunteriam, i'm usually not so much involved with the evaluation of the proposals, our mentor pool usually handles that
18:29.07hunteriamumccullough: Is it usually up to the student to propose a project? I'd personally be happy to work on anything
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18:29.24sils(with a lot of QA due to the nature of the project and my/our idealism plus it enhances learning :))
18:29.26umcculloughhunteriam, yes, the student proposes a project
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18:29.38umcculloughhunteriam, students can pick from the ideas list if they wish, but it's not required
18:30.04gsoc670how competitive is it to get selected in your respective orgs. What if you see two very strong candidates and only one slot...do you organize a preselection test or do you prefer to select on the basis of proposal only?  (kblin and mccullough)
18:30.09hunteriamThats good to hear
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18:30.45umcculloughgsoc670, it can be competitive, how the students behave during the evaluation process can make a lot of difference
18:30.49kblingsoc670: can't say that in general
18:30.54kblinbut what umccullough said
18:31.11hunteriamsils: Wow that project is quite large! I'm very impressed
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18:31.13umcculloughwe've had multiple students propose to work on the same projects too
18:31.19hunteriamsils: How did you come up with the idea?
18:31.22silsis impressed too
18:31.42hunteriamumccullough: Do you ever have them work in groups, or is it always 1 student 1 mentor?
18:31.50silshunteriam, well I was writing a kernel for fun and realized I wanted something to keep my code clean
18:32.04gyani!next
18:32.05gsocbotgyani: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc
18:32.07terriI know for a lot of our projects, if multiple good students apply for a single project but do so early, sometimes we can work with the students to subdivide the project and add other features to make two projects.
18:32.07hunteriam"Writing a kernel for fun," Sounds like the start of a good project
18:32.12silshunteriam, there was no solution you could just download and apply plus I had a friend who wanted to *somehow* help
18:32.19umcculloughhunteriam, gsoc doesn't support "groups"
18:32.29silshunteriam, so yeah then we started this code analysis thing
18:32.29hunteriamAh, ok
18:32.34umcculloughbut we do occasionally assign multiple mentors to a student
18:32.37hunteriamsils: thats really great
18:32.46kblingsoc670: basically, we try to pick the students that we think will a) successfully complete gsoc and b) stay with our community afterwards
18:32.46hunteriamumccullough: whys that?
18:32.48silsand it grew.
18:33.09umcculloughhunteriam, having more mentors than students helps the student always have someone to work with, in case one mentor is unavailable
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18:33.18Valodimhttp://coala.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ haha my first impression was that the ascii koala was giving me the finger
18:33.19hunteriamsils: How do you find time to work on it amidst all the other things im sure you have to do
18:33.25silsthen I quit my job to go out freelancing to do more for FLOSS
18:33.25gsoc670thank you @kblin and @umcculough...
18:33.28kblinraw coding ability is hard to measure and also less relevant
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18:34.00hunteriamkblin: Which is your community, by the way?
18:34.03gsoc670so say if you have a student contributing since the last 7-8 months, would he be preferred?
18:34.07silshunteriam, well I quit my job :P and I'm a student so freelancing is good tax wise and I can work like a weekend and be done with it, I can do quality mentoring on some students on the rest of the time
18:34.10gsoc670over a newcomer, in case of tie?
18:34.14hunteriamkblin: oh nevermind, I just saw it up above
18:34.19hunteriamkblin: seems cool!
18:34.34umcculloughgsoc670, potentially yes, but they area probably already integrated in the project, so sometimes "new blood" is more tantalizing ;)
18:34.39kblingsoc670: I really don't have a canned answer for that
18:34.40hunteriamsils: sounds pretty fun tbh
18:34.55umcculloughgsoc670, and they may not be a good contributor, so...
18:35.02kblingsoc670: I totally agree with umccullough
18:35.04gevaertsgsoc670: that style of question tends to assume "all else being equal", which isn't ever the case
18:35.14gsoc670haha.
18:35.15umcculloughyes, +1
18:35.30hunteriamWhat degree of proven experience do most accepted students have?
18:35.41umcculloughheh, these are hard questions
18:35.48hunteriamI'm someone with relatively few projects but I do invest a lot of time into studying Computer Science
18:35.56silshunteriam, it totally is! Without my GSoC none of this would have happened. I would have never learned so much from those smart people (from GNOME, where I'm GSoC admin since last year) so I can actually sell my services for a price that allows me this kind of life :)
18:36.00hunteriamI'd hope I have a shot at being accepted
18:36.12umcculloughhunteriam, you probably have a shot at being accepted :)
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18:36.20umcculloughthe fact that you're here asking questions is already a good sign
18:36.27kblinhunteriam: there's so many factors in there
18:36.30hunteriamThats great to hear
18:36.34hunteriamYea I'm sure kblin
18:36.35Stranger|ScummVMTzag everybody
18:36.42umcculloughbut you'll really want to engage with the project(s) you are interested in
18:36.50umcculloughtheir process of selection may vary greatly from ohters
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18:36.56kblinone thing that people tend to forget is that this is not a numbers game
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18:37.03hunteriamYea that makes sense, can't wait to find out whats available
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18:37.29hunteriamkblin: Is it mostly about the interaction between the candidate and the mentors during application, then?
18:37.30Valodimif I have two students, one with better communication and one with better demonstrated coding skills, I will probably pick the one with better communication
18:37.37kblinit's no lottery, so there's no 1:N chances of making it
18:37.40silshunteriam, just engage with the projects, many won't care about your CV or something but about your OS contributions mainly and my personal stance is that mentor and student should have done a review together so they know what'll come later
18:37.41umcculloughhunteriam, it's common to do up to 5 proposals, across multiple orgs even
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18:38.18kblinhunteriam: yeah. personally I look for a good team player first, and programming skill way later
18:38.26catallmanHi all!  :)
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18:38.27Valodimboth are important, but people who ask the right questions but are able to work independently otherwise are the ones I've had the best experience with
18:38.29umcculloughalthough, most orgs require you to disclose multiple proposals
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18:38.36Valodimhey cat!
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18:38.55Tobbi*sigh*
18:39.00hunteriamThanks for all the help guys, can't wait to find out what the options are.
18:39.01kblinI would recommend to not do more than 2-3 proposals
18:39.10hunteriamWhy not kblin ?
18:39.16kblinquality >>> quantity
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18:39.22pjn_Hi catallman
18:39.23hunteriamThat makes sense
18:39.23kblinas I said, it's not a lottery
18:39.28CFS-MP3catallman all ready to send the emails I assume? :-)
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18:39.32Valodim20 minutes~
18:39.44kblinfive quick and dirty proposals will get you less far than one great proposal
18:39.48hunteriamAnyways, I've got work that needs to get done, but thanks for answering my questions!
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18:40.35TobbiSo, 20 minutes.
18:40.52apps20 more to go
18:41.00kblinor more, or less
18:41.16catallmanYes indeed :)
18:41.19Anupkumarkblin: trying to be neutral
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18:41.52kblinAnupkumar: well, first of all you usually don't push out a couple of hundred emails in 1s
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18:41.58kblinso it's fuzzy in any case
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18:42.06kblinmorning sttaylor
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18:42.22sttaylorkblin: morning
18:42.42meflinserves some hot chocolate
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18:42.56umcculloughadds coffee to the hot chocolate
18:42.58Tobbikblin: No, but there should be a site.
18:43.38Tobbihot chocolate is fine. With cream.
18:43.43kblinTobbi: sometimes I'd like to see the traffic to the gsoc site right before these announcements
18:43.51Tobbi:D
18:43.58kblinthe "accepted students" one even more so
18:43.58umcculloughf5, f5, f5, f5
18:44.16Tobbi:D Who cares about students.
18:44.17Anupkumarkblin: heheh, true that
18:44.17Tobbi:D
18:44.17Slurpeectrl+f5
18:44.29Tobbibah, wget in an infinite loop.
18:44.31CFS-MP3I think students have a better idea on whether they're likely to be accepted than orgs do
18:44.34TobbiAnd then comparing the output.
18:44.37Anupkumarwondering if there is a way to check the stats to this page :P
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18:45.09shortstheoryList of selected orgs comes out today right?
18:45.16kblinCFS-MP3: true, because for orgs it's more of a "your application was good, but you wre one of 5000000 CMS projects, and we could pick 4"
18:45.17Valodim15 minutes
18:45.38shortstheory15 mins for results?
18:45.41gsocerso excited!
18:45.43Tobbiyes
18:45.48Tobbia bit excited as well.
18:45.51shortstheoryscared tbh I'm applying for KDE
18:45.54blast007we really don't need a countdown here, though...
18:45.59MatthewWilkesumccullough: There's no point refreshing even, it auto-refreshes every 20 seconds or so.
18:45.59TobbiSo, what org is everybody working on?
18:46.06shortstheoryKDE has had a good record, but so did mozilla before they got the boot
18:46.15TobbiWhy was Mozilla booted?
18:46.20gsocerso did Linux
18:46.21pjn_MatthewWilkes that's right... refresh is built in
18:46.28shortstheorysite for results?
18:46.55shortstheorywhat is the site for these results?
18:47.03pjn_MatthewWilkes however I guess one would just get a toast message with an action button to refresh the page
18:47.20gsocer@sttaylor I have a question. If I am in the US during GSoC, but I don't have a bank account here, can I accept funds in my home country?
18:47.22kblinshortstheory: I'm sure it's linked in the page from the topic
18:47.23pjn_"The state of the app has changed" REFRESH - something like that
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18:48.27gevaertsgsocer: as far as I know "linux" was never a gsoc org
18:48.41shortstheorygevaerts: not linux, The Linux Foundation
18:48.45a0xnirudhIts "Linux Foundation:"
18:48.45meflingevaerts, it was ( the linux foundation )
18:48.48MatthewWilkesgsocer: In previous years all payments have been done by sending a pre-paid VISA card. If you're going to be in the US then bear in mind that you need permission to work where you're resident. (I don't speak for google)
18:48.57gsoceryes thats what i meant
18:48.57gsocersorry
18:49.00shortstheoryresults at 1900 UTC right? Which would be 2hrs 15 mins?
18:49.09a0xnirudhno 10 min !
18:49.09Valodimminus two hours
18:49.10Tobbino, in 10 minutes iirc.
18:49.15shortstheoryoh
18:49.16gevaertsOK, well, "linux" means the kernel to me :)
18:49.16shortstheoryoh
18:49.20shortstheoryDamn I'm worried
18:49.25TobbiA prepaid visa card? How can that be used anyway?
18:49.31Valodimlike a visa card
18:49.39kblinTobbi: it's like a credit card, just without credit
18:49.55Valodimso it's a card
18:49.56Tobbihmm...
18:50.04Tobbikblin: And that can be used in any country?
18:50.18kblinI think it can be used like a regular visa card
18:50.22gevaertswonders how many of the 10 organisations that have been in *every* gsoc will be in this year
18:50.35kblingevaerts: samba won't
18:50.36Valodimin the year where I was student, payments were handled by payoneer, which also had the option to simply transfer the money to a bank account
18:50.41Tobbiwonders how many will get accepted.
18:50.57meflinTobbi, more then 1
18:51.04AnupkumarTobbi: same as last year I expect
18:51.06gevaertskblin: good to know. That will probably save me a few minutes checking
18:51.08kblinTobbi: and less than 500
18:51.11Tobbigrr
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18:51.13Tobbikay, okay.
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18:51.24AnupkumarTobbi: less than 200
18:51.32MatthewWilkesMore than one
18:51.34MatthewWilkesI like this game
18:51.36TobbiOkay, just stop this.
18:51.46tobleroneA positive Integer
18:51.52AnupkumarTobbi: wrong question to ask I guess :P
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18:52.03TobbiAnupkumar: Especially 8 minutes before the announcement.
18:52.06gevaertsisn't that convinced about it being an integer :)
18:52.20Tobbitoblerone: I guess it|ll be less than INT_MAX.
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18:52.36Tobbigevaerts: What about a complex number? :D
18:52.37kblinit very likely will fit into a uint8
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18:53.04gevaertsTobbi: I pity the students applying to the imaginary orgs :)
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18:53.11kblingevaerts: I'm a bit sad about that, but nobody had time to mentor
18:53.12blast007gevaerts: yeah, maybe the'll accept a fractional piece of MDO
18:53.40kblinblast007: the most desirable fraction of it
18:53.42gevaertskblin: think of it as making room for other worthy projects
18:53.45blast007:)
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18:54.03gevaertskblin: MDF? I want *solid* fractional stuff!
18:54.06gsoc680Hello everybody, does anyone know where are the list of project that are now accepted?
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18:54.15rhartAny idea when today the organizations are going to be released?
18:54.23Valodimit's in the timeline
18:54.24catallmanNo list yet - patience please :)
18:54.25kblin!when | rhart
18:54.25gsocbotrhart: "when" is later
18:54.32Crofton|work~next
18:54.32infobotmethinks next is NEXT!
18:54.41apps!hello
18:54.42Crofton|work~timeline
18:54.42rhartThanks
18:54.51gevaertsCrofton|work: gsocbot uses !, not ~
18:54.57Crofton|work!next
18:54.58gsocbotCrofton|work: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc
18:55.00gsoc680And why is the site https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015 still with "2015"?
18:55.03*** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> No, accepted orgs are not out yet. | GSoC Orgs will be announced on Feb 29th! https://g.co/gsoc
18:55.03OmarDongaI think 5 min. from now
18:55.14gevaertsgsoc680: because that's the 2015 site
18:55.15kblingsoc680: because we're using a different site now
18:55.22kblingsoc680: it's in the topic
18:55.32apps!time
18:55.32gsocbotapps: "time" is http://xkcd.com/now
18:55.46gsoc680thanks kblin
18:56.13apps!date
18:56.19kblinhehe, I forgot about that xkcd
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18:56.27kblin!botabuse | apps
18:56.27gsocbotapps: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>
18:57.00MatthewWilkestries to stay calm
18:57.06gsoc680What do you think, it is too late to get into a project on gsoc?
18:57.26kblinmrksaxena: but your ideas list is accessible this time, right?
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18:57.35apps@kblin: i was just checking it out
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18:57.38kblingsoc680: nope
18:57.40Crofton|workhahahah
18:57.45DingToanyone got mail yet?
18:57.54Crofton|work3 minnutes
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18:57.59kblinapps: yeah, no worries, just wanted to get you the instructions
18:58.18kblinapps: that factoid is perhaps named a bit confrontationally
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18:58.28sg345The org list will be annoucned now right?
18:58.34appsoh
18:58.55kblinsg345: soon (tm)
18:58.56umcculloughsg345, check your clock, you're early
18:58.58Tobbisoon.
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18:59.03Elena_wow, I can feel the tension and excitement here :)) it floats in all the bytes
18:59.05Tobbi30 seconds
18:59.07royalharsh95:D
18:59.15apps:))
18:59.15umccullough!countdown
18:59.16TobbiElena_: Indeed, me too.
18:59.16kblinand please don't start a countdown
18:59.17gsocbotumccullough: "countdown" is Don't start a countdown. You will be removed from the channel.
18:59.20gevaertsTobbi: your clock is fast :)
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18:59.55Stranger|ScummVMkblin: Even if we shout 'happy new year' at the end?
19:00.08kblinStranger|ScummVM: even then, though that would be a tad more cute
19:00.13dufferzafar!next
19:00.14gsocbotdufferzafar: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc
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19:00.14sg345happy new year stranger
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19:00.17appsHappy new year
19:00.18darkapexYayy
19:00.18*** mode/#gsoc [+v gsocbot] by kblin
19:00.27TobbiOkay.
19:00.29TobbiSo now.
19:00.42Valodimclicks
19:00.52MatthewWilkesAaaand… white page!
19:00.54CFS-MP3I guess the acceptance email is now traveling from Mountain View
19:00.58appswhere to go
19:00.58Valodimthe white page T_T
19:01.04MatthewWilkeshehe
19:01.16appsconfused
19:01.16Valodimooooooooohhhhhh /o/
19:01.28MatthewWilkesThank you, all at Google!
19:01.35a0xnirudhhttps://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/   ??????????
19:01.37Elena_so I'm not the only one that doesn't see the list of accepted organizations, right?
19:01.42Valodimaawwww yiss ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
19:01.47rhartUp now for me
19:01.55sagaragarwal94KDE is in
19:01.57catallmanPlease stand by - we're working on iy!
19:01.57catallman"it"
19:02.05DavidPSWE are in!!!! thanks all the GSOC team!!
19:02.22balloonsweird
19:02.25a0xnirudhthat link has some org list, is that the finalized ones ?
19:02.32Elena_congrats :)) wow, I could've think that only the students are THIS excited
19:02.35a0xnirudhhttps://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/     ?
19:02.40CFS-MP3congrats DavidPS
19:02.54DavidPSThanks CFS-MP3  :)
19:02.55balloonsseems we are not accepted, but the dashboard seems like we are?
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19:03.03DavidPSwwwooooW!!! after 4 years!!
19:03.15kblinstay calm folks
19:03.18appsits 2015 list i think so plz let me know
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19:03.37kblinthe org list often lags a bit.
19:03.41umcculloughballoons, indeed, the dashboard for haiku has an "invite mentors" button, but i don't think haiku was selected
19:03.55balloonsyea, I'm looking at the same for ubuntu
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19:04.04kblinalso, I don't know if you need to update your org profile before you'll see the org on the list
19:04.12OmarDongahttps://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
19:04.13kblinthat was the way it was on melange, iirc
19:04.20kblinso wait for the email
19:04.21gyani!numapps
19:04.22gsocbotgyani: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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19:04.30Yash_David, what org?
19:04.40benstrumentalso if our org is listed, we are accepted?
19:04.51popeyCongratulations to everyone who got in! :)
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19:05.30appsplz let me know where i could find the list
19:05.34kblinI'd assume so, but just wait for the email
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19:05.50kblinapps: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
19:05.58Stranger|ScummVMMany thanks to all the GSoC team!
19:06.07kblinit was linked like a dozen times already :)
19:06.16TobbiSo that org list is up-to-date?
19:06.21appsi am a student
19:06.31appsso i coudnt open that page
19:06.46*** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> GSoC Orgs announced, see https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ | More info: https://g.co/gsoc
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19:07.02edunhamapps: that page is public now :)
19:07.04kblinapps: it'd be a bit silly if the accepted org page wasn't public, right?
19:07.15appsyes
19:07.27kblin"we only accept students who can guess an org is part of gsoc"
19:07.29gevaertskblin: yes, but see what happens to some ideas lists :)
19:07.32drktrx180 orgs
19:07.33Cervatorwoo! Terasology is in! Thank you GSOC :-)
19:07.38kblingevaerts: :D
19:07.47nbyouriyay netbsd was accepted
19:07.49nbyourihaapy
19:07.59umcculloughcounts 180 orgs?
19:08.00kblindrktrx: indeed? ok, that's less students per org then
19:08.09drktrxyes i counted
19:08.13TobbiSo, we're not in.
19:08.14Tobbi:)
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19:08.28umcculloughreactos got in this year, very nice
19:08.36umcculloughi'll have to go over and congratulate them :)
19:08.40panzoneuh, no mono ?
19:08.58appstobbi: you r not there?
19:09.02Yash_How many orgs were accepted last year?
19:09.11Valodimoh, mozilla is in
19:09.14Tobbiapps: Doesn't looks like this.
19:09.14vkmcdo admins get notification emails?
19:09.15umcculloughYash_, looks like 137
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19:10.16gevaertsEight left
19:10.26MatthewWilkesgevaerts: Ever the optimist, eh?
19:10.33catallman180 for those who are counting.
19:10.48pjn_catallman: :-)
19:10.49gevaertsMatthewWilkes: always :)
19:11.10panzonegevaerts: who's missing ?
19:11.13Abhishek_!numapps
19:11.14gsocbotAbhishek_: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
19:11.21rpadovaniOh, Ubuntu hasn't been accepted :(
19:11.23sttaylorvkmc: yes the emails are going out now (it takes awhile for 369 emails to get through the system)
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19:11.30balloonsis patiently waiting for a rejection email :-)
19:11.31Abhishek_RTEMS is missing.
19:11.42gevaertspanzone: mono and samba fell off the list
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19:11.49balloonsrpadovani, indeed. But it was a wonderful experience in getting things prepped and ready to go
19:11.58kblinAbhishek_: RTEMS is there
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19:12.19raveeshhow many orgs this time ?
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19:12.26rpadovaniballoons, I see, but then I can't leave my job to work on Ubuntu this summer :D
19:12.27Yash_180
19:12.29gevaertsnotes that the organisation names aren't actually on the page as text, so ctrl-F searching won't find all of them
19:12.38raveeshYash_, thanks, that's a lot
19:12.38Abhishek_oh yes, it is
19:13.02stultusWe got selected :)
19:13.03raveeshmuch more than last time, i think
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19:13.07balloonsso just under half of the orgs were accepted sttaylor? The accepted orgs should feel super proud!
19:13.32Darwin_hey everyone. i am new here
19:13.33kblinballoons: but this again depends a bit on the projects
19:13.44apps!numapps
19:13.44gsocbotapps: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
19:14.11Darwin_is this official chat room?
19:14.13kblinballoons: OBF didn't get in in 2013 and 2015 because there were too many bioinformatics projects, and google could only accomodate that many of them
19:14.25kblinDarwin_: for Google Summer of Code, yes
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19:14.41DingTodid orgs receive emails?
19:14.45DingToor just the website info?
19:14.48edunhamwow, the site behaves horribly in elinks... I don't envy anyone trying to access it with a screen reader
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19:14.51nelson-liuim not sure, but the org list is up
19:14.54appswhich c,c++ org are selected?
19:14.58Darwin_thank you :) but ww have less members online here. i expected more
19:15.02balloonskblin, ahh, so you are saying the recipetents compete inside there categories as well?
19:15.09kblinDingTo: emails are going out now, will take a while
19:15.19MatthewWilkesDarwin_: Just wait until the student proposal announcement day, it'll be busier ;)
19:15.24Abhishek_@GSoC team: It's good that organizations are displayed in a tiled format, with some text and logo but the option to view it all as a list in alphabetical order would be great.
19:15.28Stranger|ScummVMGoodbye guys, and thanks again!
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19:15.35gevaertsRobert_S: I'd say the organisation names should be on the list page in text form somewhere, so a plain ctrl-F search works. The way it is now, it can be a bit confusing
19:15.37kblinballoons: I wasn't involved in the selection, but that's my experience from the previous years
19:15.42balloonsblah, kblin, I meant orgs compete for slots inside the categories.
19:15.43DingTokblin: thanks for the info
19:15.48balloonskblin, ack
19:16.05Darwin_it would be much busy right
19:16.10benstrumentalHave 'acceptance' emails been sent out yet? Our org is listed, but I have not received an official email yet
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19:16.30kblinbenstrumental: they're being sent as we speak, just takes a while to send ~400 emails
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19:16.52Darwin_i just read about gsoc and have some information about it. So what is the first step?
19:16.55ESphynxhey guys, the dashboard says 'It is time for you to invite people to be mentors for your organization. They must accept before they can see student proposals.', but I don't see our organization anywhere on the list, so I'm assuming we were not selected :P
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19:17.07kblin!studentguide | Darwin_
19:17.07gsocbotDarwin_: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
19:17.16gevaertsESphynx: which organisation?
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19:17.18MatthewWilkesESphynx: Have you tried the search box on the org list?
19:17.21meflinESphynx, log out and go to the home page to see orgs
19:17.33kblinmeflin: actually, just go to the homepage
19:17.35ESphynxmeflin: yes that's what I did, and our org is not on the list.
19:17.36Darwin_we even have bots here? amazing
19:17.38kblinno need to log out
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19:17.47ESphynxgevaerts: Ecere
19:18.09meflinkblin, when I was loged in it went to my org dashbord :)
19:18.24ESphynxmeflin same for me...
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19:18.28umcculloughmeflin, yeah, that is a bit annoying
19:18.29kblinsttaylor: I seem to remember that you were not planning to hold an epic org feedback meeting of doom this year?
19:18.32meflinminor bug
19:18.45kblinmeflin: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ went to the org list for me
19:18.50MatthewWilkeskblin: Now, that's a leading question if ever I heard one!
19:19.01sttaylorkblin: correct, no IRC meetings this year
19:19.09kblinMatthewWilkes: 0:-)
19:19.15umcculloughsttaylor, will we be able to request feedback via email?
19:19.31kblinsttaylor: awesome, so no need to dust off that queue module for gsocbot then
19:19.44Abhishek_I don't see the mentor summit on the timeline there.
19:19.58sttaylorumccullough: yes you can email the group email at gsoc-support@google.com
19:20.00meflinkblin, that works ...  https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com redircts
19:20.07umcculloughsttaylor, thanks!
19:20.12gevaertsAbhishek_: that usually isn't planned until later
19:20.13sttaylorit is in the instructions in the emails that appear to be still going out...
19:20.17FresoRobert_S sttaylor, looks like you're stuck with me for one more round. :)
19:20.22Robert_SFreso: Damnit.
19:20.30MatthewWilkesI'm helping the email situation by hammering the invite mentor page
19:20.38MatthewWilkes;)
19:20.52Robert_SMatthewWilkes: Those are working fine.  :)
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19:21.02gevaertsHmm, no more regex search? That will make finding C interesting
19:21.04FresoSheesh there's a lot of backscroll in this channel for once.
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19:21.18balloonsanyone from emory here?
19:21.39balloonsI'm super excited to see biomedical informatics made it!
19:21.40catallmanHi all, Please send requests for feedback to gsoc-support@google.com. We'll answer as fast as we can.
19:21.44benstrumentalHmm I received some spam mail on my email I've only used for GSoC registration....
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19:21.56kblinballoons: lots of bioinf this year :)
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19:22.11Darwin_i am very much confused about organizations. Which one to select
19:22.14joselol, I received a "Google Winning Notification" from the buckingham palace
19:22.16MatthewWilkesRobert_S: App Engine really is magic sometimes.
19:22.33Fresokblin: Apparently, music metadata is not a very contested field. :p
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19:23.35kblinFreso: I'm not even sure what bucket that'd end up in
19:23.40rick__hi, can anybody tell me how many students gsoc willing to take on this year?
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19:23.43verm__i'm confused, if your project didn't make it in does your dashboard change?
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19:23.50kblingreat job that's not my job
19:24.00kblinverm__: just wait for the emails
19:24.10verm__because it's asking me to invite mentors but it's not listed in the orginizations
19:24.13balloonsohh yea, I see stony brook in there too. nice
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19:24.19verm__kblin: ok thanks :)
19:24.28kblinassuming this is not one of the years where everybody is getting a "congratulations" email
19:24.28MatthewWilkesThe best part of this day is realising why I find nicks in other channels I'm in familiar is that they do GSoC.
19:24.33OrkoHunterWhere can we submit suggestions for the website?
19:24.46MatthewWilkeskblin: Eesh. That year…
19:24.49rick__isn't carol the organizer this year??
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19:25.02kblinrick__: nope, sttaylor runs the show
19:25.03meflinrick__, no sttaylor is
19:25.11Abhishek_OrkoHunter: I think they are to be directed to gsoc-support@google.com
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19:25.18rick__ok thanks
19:25.33Darwin_everyone here applied to organization?
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19:25.48kblinMatthewWilkes: yeah, it's funny how you keep bumping into the same people
19:26.08kblinlike mithro :)
19:26.17Robert_Sverm__: What org?
19:26.29aghislaI love the Accepted organisations page!
19:26.31panzoneDarwin_: no, I'm a student
19:26.39Yash_MatthewWilkes: do you look down upon such people?
19:26.56MatthewWilkesYash_: Why would I??
19:27.04Darwin_indians?
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19:27.25Yash_MatthewWilkes: well, because they came here because of GSoC
19:27.33SlurpeeWhere to see # of slots?
19:27.34Darwin_as a student you need to choose an organization right?
19:27.45MatthewWilkesYash_: I'm sorry, I don't follow.
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19:27.59DingToDarwin_: yes
19:28.01MatthewWilkesSlurpee: The future. That's not decided yet, doesn't happen until much later.
19:28.07kblinSlurpee: slots are only final once the accepted projects are announced
19:28.09DingToyou can submit proposals to multiple organisations though Darwin_
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19:28.22balloonsRobert_S, are you looking for orgs that can invite mentors but didn't get in?
19:28.27Robert_Sballoons: Yes.
19:28.31Darwin_thx DingTo :) but its too confusing
19:28.32balloonsRobert_S, ubuntu
19:28.37verm__Robert_S: waf
19:28.37Robert_Sballoons: Thank you.
19:28.55rick__sttaylor: how many students does gsoc thinking of taking this yr?
19:28.55Darwin_which organization to choose. there are plenty of them around
19:28.58verm__we didn't get an email yet
19:29.11mhilsQuick question: We didn't get an email but we do appear in the org list - we're in, or are there any bugs? :)
19:29.13Robert_Sballoons: verm__: If you're rejected, please don't invite mentors.  :)
19:29.28kblin^^
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19:29.58kblinI'm not budging until I get an email from google :)
19:30.12balloonsRobert_S, lol, no plans too ;-) Just made me do a doubletake when we weren't on the list
19:30.21umcculloughRobert_S, looks like haiku can also invite mentors...
19:30.39Robert_Sumccullough: It's a bug.  :)
19:30.51umcculloughk, wasn't sure if you needed a list of the orgs, or just one example
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19:31.43Robert_Sat least the new organizations page is beautiful :)
19:31.57umcculloughguesses Robert_S built it
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19:32.19verm__is the orginizations list complete or is it like some other years where they only get listed after the emails go out?
19:32.30Robert_Sverm__: should be complete.
19:32.35verm__ah :(
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19:34.09blast007Is the new GSoC site open-source so we can submit improvements for possible inclusion?
19:34.18gevaertsRobert_S: it is! I'm not sure if the search is flexible enough though (the old C vs anything, or java vs javascript issue)
19:34.47gevaertsSubstring search is nice in general, but these corner cases can be annoying
19:34.50Robert_Sgevaerts: it doesn't need to be perfect, as long as it filters down the selection.
19:35.15shiffmanhas the final list of accepted orgs been published?  In my dashboard, it seems like my org has been accepted, but I can't see to find it on the list so I'm not sure.
19:35.39umcculloughshiffman, https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
19:35.47umcculloughignore your dashboard for now
19:35.57niemannsWhat just got me with the search is, that you shouldn't filter the topic first. Like selecting "Science and Medicine"
19:36.09verm__shiffman: appears to be a bug, we got the same surprise.  if it's not in the list you're not in.
19:36.15niemannsOtherwise, all search results ended in "No results found"
19:36.15mhilsumccullough: orgs listed there are definitely accepted?
19:36.17umcculloughRobert_S, it's unclear if the search also searches the orgname, or just the description
19:36.22umcculloughi assume it does both
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19:36.31mhils(we did not get an email, but we are on the list)
19:36.37umcculloughmhils, officially, you wait for an email
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19:36.42Robert_Sumccullough: both
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19:36.46shiffmanMy org has participated for the last 5 years so just surprised not to see it there (but obv there are no guarantees)
19:37.05Darwin_anyone chose Mozilla?
19:37.17umcculloughshiffman, google cycles orgs out of the list some years
19:37.25MatthewWilkesshiffman: We were in the same position as you a few years back. Don't take it personally, Google like to sub out some of the long-running ones to give newbies a chance. Apply again next year.
19:37.27umcculloughto make room for other orgs that haven't gotten in
19:37.30Robert_Sniemanns: the filtering thing is a bug
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19:38.35shiffmanThanks everyone.
19:38.47Robert_Sthere's nothing like real users to identify the bugs.
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19:39.23MatthewWilkesRobert_S: I'm sure some people would have been happy to get access to the decision a few days early and test ;)
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19:40.59gevaertsRobert_S: you're probably right, although the C case (108 matches vs 47 if I check the json more thoroughly) could be a bit on the loose side
19:41.05verm__Robert_S: who can i contact to get feedback on why we were rejected.. need to know what to fix for next year
19:41.32gevaertsverm__: 20:19:58 <sttaylor> umccullough: yes you can email the group email at gsoc-support@google.com
19:41.36Cervatoras an admin of a newbie org that is in for the first time after not making it several years from quotas i appreciate the sacrifices of org cycling - am thankful :-)
19:41.41MatthewWilkes!feedback
19:41.47verm__gevaerts: awesome thanks
19:41.50gevaertsverm__: that was a reply to that very same question :)
19:42.23MatthewWilkes!learn feedback as You can get feedback on why you weren't accepted by emailing gsoc-support@google.com. Please be patient, emails will be emailed as quickly as possible.
19:42.24gsocbotMatthewWilkes: "feedback" is You can get feedback on why you weren't accepted by emailing gsoc-support@google.com. Please be patient, emails will be emailed as quickly as possible.
19:42.30Robert_Sgevaerts: I don't have a good solution for the C case.  We're definitely not going to do regexes, but I'll file a bug and see if we can special case it somehow.
19:42.32MatthewWilkesoops
19:42.34MatthewWilkes!forget feedback
19:42.35gsocbotMatthewWilkes: The operation succeeded.
19:42.41MatthewWilkes!learn feedback as You can get feedback on why you weren't accepted by emailing gsoc-support@google.com. Please be patient, emails will be answered as quickly as possible.
19:42.42gsocbotMatthewWilkes: "feedback" is You can get feedback on why you weren't accepted by emailing gsoc-support@google.com. Please be patient, emails will be answered as quickly as possible.
19:42.58gevaertsRobert_S: sorry for liking C :)
19:43.08Robert_Sgevaerts: I don't blame you.  Pointers are cool.
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19:43.55kblin:D
19:44.23gevaertsIf used properly, they can freeze your computer!@
19:44.24verm__Robert_S: if you are an admin for one org you cannot be a mentor for another?
19:44.36Robert_Sverm__: Correct.
19:44.42verm__interesting, is that new?
19:44.48Robert_SLots of things are new.
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19:45.21Robert_Sverm__: But your org wasn't accepted, right?  So you're not really an admin anymore.
19:45.41verm__i havn't gotten the email but i am going with yes since we're not in the orginizations list
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19:46.16pjn_that email is taking a long time now :|
19:46.29meflinI"ve not seen any of my 2
19:46.32Robert_Spjn_: The freeways are clogged.
19:46.39balloonsit's not real until it hits your inbox right? :-)
19:46.51MatthewWilkesGoogle doesn't clog freeways! ;)
19:47.03Robert_SMatthewWilkes: Have you seen the traffic in Mountain View in the morning?
19:47.07MatthewWilkesRobert_S: Yep
19:47.25meflinmight as well relax and have a tea
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19:47.49pjn_Robert_S : only if you can see the traffic in Bengaluru on a Monday morning ;-)
19:47.56MatthewWilkesRobert_S: Have you seen the comparison of the 101 traffic stats between days Google is open for business and non-working days?
19:48.21Robert_Spjn_: I did that ~7 years ago.  You win.
19:48.25Robert_SMatthewWilkes: I don't need stats.  :)
19:48.45MatthewWilkesIt's interesting to control for weekdays, is all
19:48.57MatthewWilkesEveryone but Google being open and everyone being open
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19:49.26Justin_oanyone know if there is a way to change the colour of the links on the organization pages. My org has links in the description which are pretty much unreadable.
19:49.28MatthewWilkesA friend of mine cycles from SF every day to avoid the 101
19:49.36MatthewWilkesThe traffic, that is
19:49.43Robert_SJustin_o: What's your org?
19:49.51Robert_SJustin_o: And you can use a browser custom style sheet.
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19:50.45Justin_ohttps://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5729245854695424/
19:50.49Justin_oRobert_S: ^
19:51.08FresoRobert_S sttaylor, how long should I wait for The E-Mail before letting you know I didn't receive it?
19:51.26Robert_SFreso: Longer.  :)  The gears are still grinding.
19:51.28Justin_oRobert_S: i guess the thing is that it's an issue for everyone viewing the page.
19:51.51FresoRobert_S: Yes, I realise "longer" - but 1 hour or 1 day-scale longer? :)
19:51.59pjn_Freso : Personalised emails take time :D
19:52.03Robert_SJustin_o: Yeah, I'm going to look into the bigger issue.  We have a contrast requirement that I can check.
19:52.12Robert_SFreso: They're being hand written, and we're out of ink.
19:52.15meflina standard email back-off can take up to 4 days
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19:52.18FresoDarn.
19:52.25Robert_SJustin_o: But I agree, the purple on dark is suboptimal.
19:52.30FresoI think I may have some ink I could send you, but it's probably dried out by now.
19:53.36vkmccould you confirm that OpenStack didn't make it as mentoring org for this year?
19:53.55Justin_oRobert_S: that's great thanks, appreciate it.
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19:54.13pjn_vkmc : Check the org page
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19:54.37vkmcpjn_, already did
19:54.50ubaphello
19:54.59ubapmy organisation is not chosen
19:55.01pjn_vkmc, then not...
19:55.03ubapand im in depression
19:55.07vkmcpjn_, thanks
19:55.08ubapwhat should i do
19:55.14umcculloughvkmc, guessing it would be between OpenMRS and OpenStreetmap :P
19:55.37umcculloughubap, try again next year
19:55.40umcculloughthis is not uncommon :/
19:55.43pjn_vkmc, you may get an email confirmation anyway within few hours (or less)
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19:56.53vkmcall right
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19:57.57ubapmaybe could i apply to other organisation?
19:58.02ubapwhats the chance of getting in?
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19:58.16ubapif i would start familiarizing now
19:58.31ubapim a student
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19:58.54teepeeubap: create a good proposal and you have good chances
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20:00.02umcculloughubap, oh, thought you were an org admin
20:00.21umcculloughubap, your chances are fine, at least you already have FOSS experience, it seems
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20:03.08Robert_SJustin_o: Those colors will get changed, but it might take a week.
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20:03.10ubapthanks for giving me hope
20:03.25Justin_oRobert_S: thanks so much for looking into that
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20:03.50Robert_SJustin_o: No problem.
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20:04.48Darwin_i know C++ well.. any good organzation that i could choose from?
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20:13.17gilluxI’m a mentor and our org (Tatoeba) wasn’t accepted. I’m fine with this, but something strange happened: when I’m going to the "dashboard" page of the gsoc site, it says "Inactive Account" (it was saying this even before the annoucment of accepted orgs) and I did not get a notification email about our refusal
20:13.31dom96^^ same
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20:13.40dom96Also wanted to ask this: will there be feedback given to the orgs that were rejected this year?
20:13.48umcculloughemails haven't arrived yet, it seems
20:14.10umcculloughand supposedly the email will provide info on the feedback process
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20:15.25Darwin_gillux are you a mentor?
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20:15.43gilluxyes
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20:16.04Darwin_Tatoeba orgz?
20:16.28Darwin_supports C++ ?
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20:18.07Robert_SThere will be an email.  Please be patient.
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20:24.33balloonsRobert_S, I love the drifting astronaut graphic. Lovely way to say goodbye
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20:25.12FresoIs there an official GSoC @Twitter?
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20:25.24Fresoabout to make a @MetaBrainz tweet
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20:25.37Robert_Sballoons: :)
20:25.49Robert_Sballoons: We wanted to sprinkle some delight into the app.
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20:26.10MatthewWilkesooh, twitter, yes!
20:26.14balloonsRobert_S, mission achieved! Kudos to those who did the design
20:26.30MatthewWilkesWhat's the point in having the keys to the org twitter account if I don't use them
20:26.38balloonsMatthewWilkes, lol..
20:26.51FresoMatthewWilkes: :)
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20:28.50FresoMatthewWilkes: So, is there an "official" GSoC hashtag we should use?
20:28.55Freso#gsoc2016?
20:29.45MatthewWilkesFreso: I kept it simple: https://twitter.com/plone
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20:32.54MatthewWilkesOoh, an email
20:33.02Robert_SYes, emails are going out.
20:33.27FresoRobert_S: Btw, about not receiving The E-Mail.
20:33.35FresoI have received The E-Mail.
20:33.41Robert_S;J
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20:35.22MatthewWilkesWell, I have a choice, I can make inane comments about my emails, or I can do what I'm supposed to be doing which is reading a consultation paper about corporate governance in higher education
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20:36.05meflinMatthewWilkes, I would go with the comments
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20:36.46balloonsis it funny to be excitied over recieving a rejection email/
20:36.58umcculloughlol
20:37.11balloonsI haven't got it yet, lol, but I can't wait!
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20:38.50balloonswish granted, email is here. Good luck to the rest of the orgs. Now to plan my suddenly free summer!
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20:41.19Robert_Sballoons: Join another org.  :)
20:43.16umcculloughi have to admit, the "suddenly free" part is enticing for me as well ;)
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20:47.12gsocerI have a question. How does Google verify where a candidate is located during the internship?
20:48.51gsocer@sttaylor ?
20:49.09sttayloryes gsocer?
20:49.44gsocersttaylor: I was wondering how does Google verify where a candidate is located during the internship?
20:50.04sttaylorit?s not an internship
20:50.08gsocer@sttaylor I ask that because if I have to travel between the internship, is it allowed?
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20:50.37vlad_popescuI think they know from your submission
20:51.10sttaylorif you are accepted into GSoC as a student then there are very specific rules around traveling and writing code in countries other than the one where you reside.
20:51.49sttaylorwhat country do you reside in?
20:51.55gsocer@sttaylor If I am in the US while submitting my project proposal, but I intend to go back to my home country during the project duration, would that have any special clauses?
20:52.31sttaylorgsocer what is your home country?
20:52.40gsocersttaylor: India
20:53.23umcculloughRobert_S, should all emails have been received by now? I checked my spam and still nothing
20:53.37sttaylorit depends on your visa status - which is something you must talk with your schooll about
20:53.50umcculloughRobert_S, nevermind
20:53.57umcculloughfound it :P
20:54.22Darwin_m too from india
20:54.40gsocer@sttaylor got it. Has any international student working for GSoC faced trouble due to some misinterpretation of rules?
20:55.05gsocer@sttaylor I am just a little scared because last year I did participate in GSoC but I was in India. Now I am studying in the US.
20:55.05sttayloryes, people have had visas revoked or had serious tax implications
20:55.27sttayloryou must do your research before applying to be sure to have paperwork in order early.
20:55.56meflinwe are not lawyers or accountants
20:56.11sttaylorif you are in the US on a visa which it sounds like you are, then you need to reach out to your school as they should be able to help you. We can?t give you legal advice.
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20:57.38vlad_popescuEvery organization has a different IRC channel?
20:57.57meflinnot all orgs use irc check there contact information
20:58.21vlad_popescuthank you
20:58.22umcculloughwould hope most orgs don't share IRC channels
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21:00.53gsocer@sttaylor Thanks got it! Would it be possible to read (maintaining anonymity of the candidates), what they did wrong, so that I don't fall into trouble?
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21:03.51gsocerokay thanks
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21:12.45PrinceDo we have boost C++ org as a mentor organisation this year ?
21:13.41sttaylorlook at the site for a list of all accepted orgs g.co/gsoc
21:16.29sclvwill there be a feedback session as in years past for rejected orgs?
21:17.16Fresosclv: No.
21:17.45sclvFreso: do you know if there will be some further explanation as to the choices made then?
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21:18.52tkamppeterHi, are org admins automatically mentors? Or does one need somehow to add mentor status to them?
21:20.45sclvThe org I admin for has a longstanding good relationship with GSoC and we've been quite successful in the past. I'd like to be able to go back to everyone with some sort of explanation to help them understand why our application was rejected this year. Even just a statement like "google is rotating out even successful orgs to give opportunities to a broader
21:20.45sclvrange of groups, but such orgs are not permanently out" would be very heartening.
21:21.06sclvas it is, people are just puzzled
21:21.24umcculloughsclv, the suggestion is to request feedback via the support contact email mentioned at the bottom of your rejection email
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21:58.43David_Honeynetthanks sstaylor + Google :)
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22:04.50mithroHey, kblin! It's good to be part of GSoC again.
22:06.00udiboy1209Is a collective list of all accepted orgs out yet?
22:06.10Calinouthe link in the topic?
22:06.37udiboy1209ohh! stupid of me to miss that :P
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22:09.52FresoOoh. I just realised that this will be our 10th year with GSoC.
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22:31.02n|west_hi, I'm trying to register to become a mentor for my org. The registration box does not have DC listed as a State/Province for the home address. is there a sensible place to file a bug report?
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22:35.19downey!slots
22:35.19gsocbotdowney: "slots" is Slot allocation is done manually by OSPO, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask for. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2. https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/studentallocations
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22:35.47downeyhmm. sttaylor are there any dates announced for slot allocation requests as in years prior?
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22:42.03sttaylordowney: we will be sending out an email about the slot allocations later this week as there are some changes this year from previous year
22:42.20downeysttaylor: that's what i was imagining. thanks! :-)
22:42.47ollyn|west_: apparently one sends bug reports to the email on the "contact" page
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22:46.28perepujalI am signing as a mentor: Is the alumni list also meant for mentors?
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22:49.15sttaylorperepujal: yes
22:49.24sttaylormentors are important too : )
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22:51.05perepujalThanks :)
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22:57.57perepujalI had a strange problem to sign as mentor: Iceweasel didn't redirect me to the summerofcode page after login on my account, I had to use chromium
22:59.52perepujalIn case of that matters I have 3 Google accounts on iceweasel and just one on chromium
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23:08.36Robert_Sperepujal: what happened instead of a redirect?
23:09.01Robert_Sn|west_: DC noted, will file a bug.
23:09.13Robert_Sn|west_: in general, use the contact email to report bugs, as we may not be monitoring IRC
23:09.14perepujaliceweasel stayed on the account security page
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23:10.47ollyhmm, the full org list needs three "LOAD MORE" clicks to see all the orgs
23:11.08Robert_Sperepujal: Can you replicate it?
23:11.33perepujalWill try, I've already registered though
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23:12.01Robert_Sperepujal: I can report it, but it's going to be really hard to replicate.  I'll keep my eye open for people complaining about firefox.
23:12.25Robert_Sn|west_: Pick a random state for now, but remember to fix it in a few days.
23:12.53perepujalNow I get 404 error
23:13.19Robert_SThat's because you've already used the token.
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23:16.28perepujalBTW the new site looks nice :)
23:16.34Robert_SGlad you like it.
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23:18.26nurupo!appstats
23:18.26gsocbotnurupo: "appstats" is see !numapps
23:18.31nurupo!numapps
23:18.31gsocbotnurupo: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
23:18.47Valodimthe number of orgs this year is 180
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23:29.24perepujalWhen I am viewing the members of my org I get an option next to each one to remove him/her even if I am just a mentor, is this a bug or this option is just for filtering people from the view?
23:30.14Robert_Sperepujal: bug, and go ahead and try it.
23:30.34perepujalI prefer not :)
23:30.39Robert_Sno, do it :)
23:32.16perepujalI get Organization member removal is coming soon, so not implemented yet?
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23:32.26Robert_SCorrect.
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