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| 13:24.49 | naveen_ | Hello |
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| 13:28.59 | ubap | His firewall might block ongoing connection to specific ports/hosts |
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| 13:31.20 | kblin | yeah. students should work, not chat |
| 13:31.32 | kblin | the same colleges of course don't block facebook ;) |
| 13:32.10 | kblin | in any case, there's IRC-web gateways you can use |
| 13:32.14 | kblin | those mostly work |
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| 13:43.44 | gsoc382 | Hello everyone, I wanted to ask whether the GSOC proposal need to be plain text or I can submit PDF or Microsoft Word files as well. |
| 13:45.17 | tbr | the proposals are submitted into the melange system |
| 13:45.30 | tbr | as text, with some formatting |
| 13:45.31 | Freso | gsoc382: Submitting (anything) as MS Word (or other Office product) files is pretty sure to put you at a severe disadvantage for being accepted for most organisations, I'd reckon. |
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| 13:46.04 | tbr | and yes .doc .docx or a pdf generated by word would detract points in my book |
| 13:46.08 | gevaerts | gsoc382: I can't speak for gsoc2016 (because the backend software has changed since last year, I think), but previously you always had to submit your proposal in a rich text edit thing on the website. Some organisations didn't mind pdf files linked to from there (or maybe others), but most mentors don't want to deal with files not in the system itself |
| 13:46.39 | gevaerts | assumes that melange will be phased out for gsoc as well as for gci |
| 13:46.42 | tbr | also the system allows the organization to lock down edits after the deadline |
| 13:46.49 | tbr | oh, really? |
| 13:47.06 | Freso | gevaerts: I guess we'll know soon, eh? :) |
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| 13:47.20 | Freso | I like the system GCI is using. |
| 13:47.20 | gevaerts | I don't *know*, but (a) gci isn't melange any more, and (b) remember melange not applying to gsoc 2015? |
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| 13:48.03 | gsoc382 | So, what can I do prepare the proposal in advance? Any suggested applications/programs to create a proposal. |
| 13:48.27 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: The last official status I heard relating to Melange was: "Nobody is working on Melange. No comment on if it'll be used again by GSoC" (paraphrased) |
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| 13:49.05 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: have you *ever* heard any google person commenting on something that wasn't officially announced yet? :) |
| 13:49.44 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Yes, but only after them checking my ID badge veeery carefully ;) |
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| 13:50.14 | gevaerts | I imagine melange will be the fallback in case the new system doesn't have all needed gsoc features in time |
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| 13:50.48 | gevaerts | But then I also imagine they probably already know by now if that's the case :) |
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| 13:51.12 | udiboy1209 | is Markdown okay :P ? |
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| 13:52.02 | gevaerts | I'd say if you want to start working on a propsal text today, use anything you're comfortable with and don't assume you can keep formatting |
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| 13:52.36 | gevaerts | i.e. you'll definitely be able to copy and paste text, anything else is uncertain at best |
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| 14:03.05 | Freso | Why are people writing proposals when the organisations themselves haven't even applied, let alone been accepted?? |
| 14:03.07 | Freso | Jeez. |
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| 14:03.30 | andre__ | do they? |
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| 14:05.30 | gevaerts | They're *planning* to start writing now. They're students though, so they won't :) |
| 14:10.57 | Freso | :p |
| 14:12.08 | gsoc2222 | Thanks everyone for such a great response though soon after asking the question I lost the connection. Where can I find the channel logs so that I can read them? |
| 14:12.32 | kblin | !logs | gsoc2222 |
| 14:12.32 | gsocbot | gsoc2222: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 14:12.37 | andre__ | It's language. :) If "plan" translates to identified sub-steps, pretty cool. But often the word "plan" seem to be used as a synonym for "vague idea" :P |
| 14:13.11 | gevaerts | points out that the logs don't refresh continously |
| 14:13.17 | kblin | true |
| 14:13.30 | gevaerts | gsoc2222: what's the last bit you saw? |
| 14:13.34 | kblin | I think it's a "once per day" thing |
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| 14:15.51 | gsoc2222 | Nothing after asking the second question |
| 14:17.10 | gevaerts | meant something exact he could look for in his own logs so he could select the missing bit fairly easily |
| 14:19.15 | gsoc2222 | Actually I was using mibbit. I actually by mistake closed that tab and so now I don't have logs to locate the exact bit. |
| 14:20.36 | blast007 | gsoc2222: *we* have our own logs, so if you give us something specific to look for, we can look for you |
| 14:20.46 | gsoc2222 | I think my last question was "Any suggested applications/programs that I can use to write my proposal in advance?" |
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| 14:21.47 | gevaerts | OK. http://paste.debian.net/366782/ should have the lot |
| 14:22.03 | gevaerts | Starting from when you joined, so it should be complete enough :) |
| 14:23.56 | gsoc2222 | Thanks a lot for being so helpful. You guys are just amazing. Heads Off to you! |
| 14:24.15 | kblin | hats, hopefully |
| 14:24.17 | Freso | ... |
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| 14:24.25 | Freso | That escalated quickly. |
| 14:24.28 | kblin | :) |
| 14:24.56 | gsoc2222 | Sorry Typo error :) |
| 14:25.05 | kblin | no worries |
| 14:27.00 | MatthewWilkes | That's made my day. |
| 14:27.36 | gevaerts | does indeed demand that heads roll to restore the balance after everyone is helpful |
| 14:28.47 | kblin | can we start with people who indent with tabs after indenting with spaces? |
| 14:29.49 | gevaerts | Yes |
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| 16:35.59 | ubap | How close I need to get with organisation and mentors to start participating? |
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| 16:53.13 | andre__ | ubap: the more, the better. |
| 16:53.47 | andre__ | but to *start participating*, you don't have to be close. you *get* close by participating. |
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| 17:02.21 | Calchan | Gentoo admin here, can I copy the GSoC 2016 sun logo to put it on our Gentoo wiki page for GSoC 2016? If so, what is the license? |
| 17:02.37 | Calchan | license information is mandatory on our systems and I couldn't find that anywhere |
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| 17:06.23 | blast007 | Calchan: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/resources/logos "These logos are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 Unported License." (though their link to the logo JPG is a 404, so I can't say for sure it refers to that sun logo) |
| 17:07.43 | Calchan | blast007: thanks a lot:o) I failed to find that when I looked for it |
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| 19:12.33 | IoannisKydonis_ | Hello, does anybody know if begginer tasks are counted as the normal ones? Because i Google sent me a mail that said that i have done 2 tasks less than those that i actually have done. :/ |
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| 19:20.22 | PulkoMandy | IoannisKydonis_; I think you should mail the GCI support team or Stephanie directly with your task list and ask for an explanation of how they count |
| 19:21.07 | IoannisKydonis_ | PulkoMandy: Ok, thank you for the response! :) |
| 19:21.18 | YagoGG | IoannisKydonis_: Could it be because they weren't made to the same organization as the most of them? |
| 19:21.39 | IoannisKydonis_ | YagoGG: No they are all for the same org... |
| 19:21.57 | YagoGG | Uh, don't know, then :/ |
| 19:22.18 | YagoGG | It happened the same to me, but I thought it was because my first 2 tasks were for 2 different orgs |
| 19:22.44 | meflin | I thought you could only do 1 beginner task? ( I have no idea how gci works :) |
| 19:22.56 | IoannisKydonis_ | I'm goint to send a mail in order to figure out what happened |
| 19:22.58 | YagoGG | meflin: AFAIK, they're 2 |
| 19:23.30 | PulkoMandy | yes, 2 tasks are allowed so students can try 2 different orgs |
| 19:23.41 | PulkoMandy | (or 2 different expertise areas in the same org) |
| 19:23.46 | PulkoMandy | and decide what to focus on |
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| 19:23.57 | meflin | learn something new every day :) |
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| 20:05.34 | Robert_S | The email used numbers from yesterday. |
| 20:05.37 | Robert_S | We apologize for the confusion. |
| 20:05.55 | Robert_S | (pass it on) |
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