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| 16:32.55 | jake___ | hello |
| 16:35.23 | jake___ | Guess this channel is dead.. |
| 16:38.37 | {0xc6} | jake___: There isn't a competition running currently. |
| 16:39.12 | {0xc6} | There was the mentor summit for GCI yesterday, I think, but that's about it. |
| 16:44.59 | olasd | the mentor summit for GSoC is this week-end actually |
| 16:46.15 | {0xc6} | olasd: Close enough ;) |
| 16:47.29 | gevaerts | Concluding that a channel is dead if there's no reply within two and a half minutes seems a bit premature to me |
| 16:47.35 | gevaerts | Two and a half days, yes :) |
| 16:48.09 | gevaerts | Especially if the thing you're expecting a reply to isn't a question |
| 16:50.02 | {0xc6} | gevaerts: Heh. |
| 16:50.44 | gevaerts | Oh, actually, saying "this channel is dead" after two minutes tends to be a very good way of forcing people to reply |
| 16:52.31 | {0xc6} | gevaerts: Indeed, that passed through my mind. |
| 16:53.21 | gevaerts | will be suspicious of such statements from now on :) |
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| 16:57.14 | jake___ | sorry lol i was just reading about the summer of code 2013 and saw the channel they used, didnt know if they had a newer channel |
| 16:57.51 | gevaerts | It's still all going on here |
| 16:58.06 | gevaerts | But not very intensively at this time of the year |
| 16:58.17 | jake___ | so are you a developer? |
| 16:59.02 | gevaerts | is a developer and has been a gsoc mentor in the past, but he hasn't been very active in gsoc lately |
| 16:59.50 | jake___ | I'm only 16 and I have been interested in learning how to code. I have been trying to learn python and was seeing if I could get some pointers or even look at some projects here |
| 17:00.53 | gevaerts | Ah, sounds like you're exactly in the target audience for google code-in |
| 17:01.10 | {0xc6} | (Which starts on the 7th of December) |
| 17:01.14 | gevaerts | Have a look at https://codein.withgoogle.com/about/ |
| 17:02.31 | jake___ | So where is this held at? |
| 17:03.00 | gevaerts | Like most open source development, wherever you are over the internet |
| 17:03.03 | jake___ | Do the groups work together at a google camp? or do they work together online? |
| 17:03.18 | jake___ | oh ok |
| 17:03.58 | gevaerts | For general pointers this isn't really the right channel, but when things aren't very busy people might point you towards the right channels anyway. I won't, because I know nothing about python |
| 17:04.38 | gevaerts | knows it's a land snake, but he only *really* cares about C creatures :) |
| 17:05.08 | {0xc6} | D: |
| 17:05.59 | jake___ | lol |
| 17:06.17 | jake___ | well this is weird... It wont let me sign up for the code in |
| 17:06.36 | jake___ | it says ages 13-17, and im 16 it says im not eligible |
| 17:07.21 | gevaerts | Well, right now applications are open for organisations, not for students yet |
| 17:07.34 | gevaerts | And I believe you have to be 18 to represent an organisation |
| 17:08.22 | gevaerts | So that's probably what's going on. I'm not sure if you'll be able to register before the actual start date of 7 december |
| 17:08.22 | jake___ | oh alright |
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| 17:09.45 | jake___ | well thanks anyways |
| 17:09.55 | jake___ | what language(s) do you use? |
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| 17:10.10 | {0xc6} | jake___: C, it would seem |
| 17:11.22 | jake___ | ahh |
| 17:11.30 | gevaerts | I prefer C, but I seem to do a lot of java at work these days |
| 17:12.02 | jake___ | yeah I heard that almost all developers have to know java |
| 17:12.49 | {0xc6} | jake___: It's consistently one of the top 3 languages utilised in industry |
| 17:13.30 | jake___ | i heard that python is one of the best starter languages to learn so im on codeacademy and udemy trying to learn it |
| 17:14.11 | jake___ | only bad thing is that all I have is a chromebook so my only option is to code on the cloud because I cant download any IDLE on this stupid chrome os |
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| 17:16.43 | jake___ | and linux runs terrible on this laptop |
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| 17:17.21 | {0xc6} | jake___: Just install lin-- oh D: |
| 17:17.28 | jake___ | haha |
| 17:17.52 | {0xc6} | jake___: Well, from some quick searching, I found this: https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices/samsung-series-5-chromebook |
| 17:17.56 | jake___ | i installed linux to play with python there and my chromebook could barely handle it lol |
| 17:18.18 | {0xc6} | Presuming that you can learn how to use a CLshell, you should be able to run python there |
| 17:19.30 | {0xc6} | jake___: Oh, and here's a reference for the popularity of Java and C: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html |
| 17:19.40 | jake___ | thanks |
| 17:20.21 | jake___ | ive been using this and it has worked out pretty well |
| 17:20.26 | jake___ | https://koding.com/ |
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| 17:34.42 | jake___ | slaps {0xc6} around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 17:35.03 | {0xc6} | dodges, then crushes jake___ with a whale. |
| 17:35.17 | jake___ | slaps {0xc6} around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 17:35.22 | jake___ | ouch |
| 17:35.32 | {0xc6} | :D |
| 17:37.19 | jake___ | if anyone here is good with python then please hit me up, I don't bite ;) |
| 17:37.44 | {0xc6} | jake___: I'd call my python skills acceptable :P What do you need help with? |
| 17:39.19 | jake___ | im just having trouble learning python by just watching video lectures and such |
| 17:39.57 | jake___ | i want to learn more hands on such as participating in projects |
| 17:40.19 | {0xc6} | jake___: How advanced are your skills in python? |
| 17:40.25 | jake___ | or even just working in groups but i cant find that |
| 17:40.40 | jake___ | not very advanced id say beginner |
| 17:41.17 | {0xc6} | jake___: I'd try working on a smallish project by yourself, GCI is what I'd most recommend for group work at first |
| 17:41.37 | {0xc6} | jake___: Most projects on GH would be rather too advanced for you currently, unfortunately |
| 17:41.54 | jake___ | ive tried but i just dont know what to make |
| 17:42.10 | {0xc6} | jake___: What do you find interesting/enjoy? |
| 17:42.27 | {0xc6} | (particularly, what area of technology are you interested in?) |
| 17:43.11 | {0xc6} | OS development, web applications, networking, databases, etc. |
| 17:43.13 | {0xc6} | Languages |
| 17:43.19 | {0xc6} | :P |
| 17:43.28 | jake___ | just programming in general? |
| 17:43.45 | jake___ | OS/ data |
| 17:43.55 | {0xc6} | jake___: Right. |
| 17:44.20 | {0xc6} | jake___: Do you know how to do OOP yet? Or just simple single-file programs? |
| 17:47.08 | jake___ | OOP? unfamiliar with that term |
| 17:48.29 | {0xc6} | Object-Oriented Programming -- essentially, you treat parts of your program as an 'object', each of which can do things and contain data |
| 17:48.52 | {0xc6} | For example, one might have a class `Circle`, with a method `area` |
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| 17:49.01 | jake___ | havent got that far yet |
| 17:49.04 | {0xc6} | Right |
| 17:49.16 | jake___ | Still have some lessons left until i get there |
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| 17:49.52 | {0xc6} | jake___: Fair enough. Are you looking through the official Python tutorials, or YouTube videos or something? |
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| 17:50.36 | jake___ | I'm using Udemy they have some nice tutorials there |
| 17:50.55 | jake___ | I was using codeacedmy for a bit |
| 17:51.35 | {0xc6} | jake___: Have a look at http://knightlab.northwestern.edu/2014/06/05/five-mini-programming-projects-for-the-python-beginner/; they have a few interesting things there |
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| 17:52.33 | {0xc6} | There's also https://www.reddit.com/r/beginnerprojects, once you've got through those. |
| 17:53.08 | jake___ | thank you so much |
| 17:53.15 | {0xc6} | jake___: No problems ;) |
| 17:53.51 | {0xc6} | I would honestly recommend against utilising CodeCademy, the tutorials have some issues if I recall correctly |
| 17:54.02 | {0xc6} | Not seen Udemy before |
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| 17:54.33 | jake___ | yeah I have heard the same thing before |
| 17:55.30 | d33tah | are the sessions list put online? |
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| 18:01.10 | Superuser | abono |
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| 18:18.04 | {0xc6} | Hah |
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| 18:53.09 | marcj | IRC discussion - http://etherpad.osuosl.org/gsoc2015-ircxmpp |
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| 22:32.33 | raniere | anyone from #openhatch at the summit? |
| 22:32.51 | raniere | if yes, please drop me a email: raniere@rgaiacs.com =) |
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| 23:14.39 | bkuhn | Is there an electronic version of the Mentor Summit session schedule? |
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| 23:54.13 | raniere | bkuhn: nope |