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02:41.43GmeSalazarwhat's up guys :)
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04:32.00abhitochill!logs
04:32.00gsocbotabhitochill: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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05:41.15ebeip90For the Student Acceptance Choice Deadline today
05:41.20ebeip90Do the students need to do anything in Melange?
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05:41.48valorieebeip90: nope
05:42.00ebeip90Okay, thanks :)
05:42.05ebeip90The wording freaked me out a bit
05:42.11valorieyou get to keep twiddling your thumbs, or more usefully, fixing bugs
05:42.32valorieyou need not worry if you've not been contacted
05:43.00valorienot all orgs choose to ask students even if there is a choice to be made
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05:44.19ollyit's always seemed a bit problematic to me to do so, given we're firmly told not to talk to students about whether we're accepting them or not
05:45.27valorieolly: true
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06:55.12stayfrostyhi guys, just a quick question, do students have anything do with today's deadline(proposal matched deadline)?
06:55.32kblinnope
06:55.42kblinthis is for the organisations
06:55.51stayfrostyok thanks!
06:56.24kblinyou don't need to worry about a thing until you get an email from google on the 27th
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07:43.05sssHello, is it necessary that during de-duplication, org always ask students abt their preference?
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07:43.46raincrashsss, Nope. It's optional.
07:44.00sssor they can solve it internally, if yes, how do they decided that who will give up student?
07:44.17sssraincrash: ^
07:44.59raincrashThey discuss among themselves and resolve such issues.
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07:45.06valoriesometimes there is another alternative
07:45.20valoriesometimes, one of the orgs is left disappointed
07:45.40valoriethere isn't always a happy ending
07:46.08sssohh, so is there any way for a student to know, whether there was de-duplication or not?
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07:48.42valorieif they aren't told, no
07:49.39endoi have a question
07:49.56endowhat does "Student acceptance choice deadline. " this mean
07:50.20valorieif offered a choice, today is the last day to declare that
07:50.34valoriesince today is the dedup meeting
07:50.42sssendo: this is for organizations, not student
07:50.52endooh i see thanks
07:51.03valorieoops, I was wrong
07:51.07endoso students hear of the results the 27th?
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07:51.19valoriewhen Google announces it
07:51.22valorieyes
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07:52.35saggar!next
07:52.36gsocbotsaggar: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC
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08:51.06decltypemeProposal Matched Deadline: April 24 at 09:00 UTC 9 minutes remaining
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09:00.19decltypemeAccepted Students Announced: April 27 at 19:00 UTC 3 days, 9 hours remaining
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09:13.10vin-ivarwhat's this first deadline?
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09:15.44decltypemevin-ivar: its for mentors, ingore it if u r a student
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10:17.50Madmax123Have the mails of selection been sent to students?
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10:18.06decltypemenope, at least for me
10:18.29Madmax123hmm.. I thought they were supposed to go out by now
10:18.50naumsmogers!next
10:18.51gsocbotnaumsmogers: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC
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10:19.08naumsmogersNo emails for students until Monday
10:19.11gevaertsThat hasn't changed, by the way
10:19.43Madmax123Acceptance mails are sent out today right? GSOC accepted list on Monday I thought
10:19.48gevaertsNo
10:20.16gevaertsAcceptance mails are sent at around the same time the list is published
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10:20.27Madmax123oh... cool
10:20.35Madmax123thanks for the info :)
10:20.54Madmax123my first time as a gsoc candidate so nerves are kinda jittery!
10:20.56Madmax123:P
10:21.01gevaertsIt's not *new* info, really :)
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10:57.54MatthewWilkesvectorijk: You don't need to announce that ;)
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11:41.47flipper_! numapps
11:41.48gsocbotflipper_: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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11:45.02naumsmogers2014 "1304/6313 proposals" - does it mean that 1304 proposals were accepted out of 6313 submitted?
11:46.13gevaertsYes
11:46.52naumsmogersThanks.
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12:05.59barbadoHey there.
12:06.29barbadoStudents' names announcement only next Monday?
12:07.08moy`Yes, there's still deduplication going on (IRC meeting tonight).
12:07.41barbadomoy`: OK, thanks.
12:08.44MatthewWestmoy`: is there a time period when those who are accepted have to commit to being a part of the program?
12:09.16moy`I don't know
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12:10.08MatthewWestBut students don't hear until Monday?
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12:11.41moy`They don't, and we're asked not to communicate until it's officially announced
12:11.46dfighterMatthewWest, by applying you already commited yourself...
12:12.22MatthewWestdfighter: got it. That's fine by me, I was just a bit confused that all the names were publicly released at the same time as the students found out.
12:12.39MatthewWestdfighter, I don't have other plans though, so committing isn't a problem
12:14.18dfighterMatthewWest, actually names are not released. Melange will show the accepted proposals. However everyone is free to choose what name to show in Melange :)
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12:14.33dfighterMatthewWest, also what do you mean by being confused? Confused regarding what?
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12:15.35MatthewWestdfighter, most internships there's a period between when you get accepted and you commit. I was expecting a similar pattern,.
12:16.28dfighterMatthewWest, I see
12:16.38gevaertsWhile there are of course similarities, thinking of gsoc as an internship can be misleading
12:17.16MatthewWestgevaerts, got it. In any case, accepted students are released Monday, yeah?
12:18.03gevaertsYes
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12:19.06MatthewWestgevaerts, dfighter, thanks much for the help. I'm out.
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12:19.46gevaertsMatthewWest: good luck!
12:20.18gevaertsFor as much as luck is involved of course. We old-timers like contradicting ourself :)
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13:05.29gevaerts!anyone | downey
13:05.29gsocbotdowney: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015
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13:15.25iptopWill I get a mail even if I don't get selected ?
13:15.37pchaignoiptop: yes
13:15.46iptopThanks
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13:33.00kakul!numapps
13:33.00gsocbotkakul: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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13:59.55gsocbotexploreshaifali: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC
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14:09.08carolsserves some tea and coffee
14:10.43decltypemethanks carols for the tea
14:10.47carolsyw
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14:33.01nourinOnly 3 more days have remained. how everyone is feeling? :)
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14:38.54kragniznourin: a little nervous!
14:39.19exploreshaifalikragniz, you are nervous!!! Hard to believe :P
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14:40.52nourinkragniz : me too! It is my 1st time.
14:41.21kragnizexploreshaifali: I know how many good applications my org got!
14:41.31exploreshaifalikragniz, which org?
14:41.39kragnizcentos
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14:41.55exploreshaifaliokay! I am sure you will get it :)
14:42.02abhitochillnervous we all are
14:43.30kragnizexploreshaifali: time will tell!
14:43.49exploreshaifaliyea! :D
14:43.52ValodimI really don't get students sometimes
14:44.01abhitochillwhy valodim
14:44.06Valodimwe have one who made several very good pull requests
14:44.20Valodimbut his proposal was like three word answers to every question in the template
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14:44.37Valodimwe told him, c'mon man this looks promising, update your proposal
14:44.47Valodimhe made more good pull requests but didn't update his proposal
14:44.50kragnizover confident?
14:44.51ValodimI don't get it :|
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14:45.09abhitochilllol..
14:45.32Valodimhe even said he'd update his proposal. he just didn't
14:45.58abhitochillwell tell me that he needs to update his proposal content? so that u know how he plans to complete this certain project
14:46.24abhitochillwell maybe he is just bad with words?
14:46.29MatthewWilkesValodim: He's not done something silly like have a second copy somewhere else that he's updated, has he?
14:46.30abhitochillhim*
14:46.48ValodimI thought it was a language thing at first as well
14:46.53Valodimbut his commit messages look perfectly fine
14:47.05Valodimand are often longer than answer to question in the proposal
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14:47.40abhitochillwierd
14:47.49decltypemelittle talk more action :)
14:47.55decltypemeexplained
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14:48.45kragnizValodim: I have a bit of a problem with expressing myself when I feel people will be scrutinizing what I'm writing
14:48.55kragnizwhen it's purely technical I'm okay
14:49.02kragnizit could be something similar
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14:51.41gevaertsIt could be all sorts of things, but the issue remains
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14:51.50abhitochillright
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14:54.04Valodimthere really isn't much we can do, which is too bad
14:54.30Valodimit just struck me as an especially weird case, usually people are the other way around
14:54.53gevaertsAnd doubts involving communication are quite serious in gsoc. You don't have the option of grabbing someone by the collar and dragging them to the meeting room if they ignore you
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15:08.22nourinValodim : sorry if I'm being rude, may be who wrote the proposal and who is pulling requests, aren't the same person?
15:08.43ValodimI don't know
15:08.47Valodimmaybe
15:08.58Valodimbut the proposal does link to the pull requests, and the name matches I think
15:09.46nourinValodim : it's really weird and at the same time interesting :)
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15:12.15abhitochill2nourin have given a nice theory
15:12.33abhitochill2it is possible that its not him
15:12.43abhitochill2maybe try interviewing him one on one?
15:12.50ValodimI'm not sure if I would find that less baffling
15:13.02raincrashThere are people who are good in technical stuff, but not in writing proposals (or vice versa). Maybe he's one of them.
15:13.17downeyor org doesn't accept any students without a voice interview :-)
15:13.26downey*our
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15:15.16kragnizdowney: that's interesting!
15:15.28kragnizdowney: is it useful in the selection?
15:16.04downeyoccasionally. :-)
15:16.06abhitochill2hmmmm i would prefer chat interview... some people like me.. gets nervous on phone and speaks fasttttt :p
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15:16.54nourinabhitochill2 : i had the same problem, but it reduced once i face such situations :)
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15:17.05abhitochill2lots of good ideas gets mixed.. nd even accent may become a problem?
15:17.16downeyno one loses points for being nervous ... it's expected :-)
15:17.39Valodimdo they lose points for not being nervous? :P
15:17.48gevaertsOf course there are issues with a voice interview, but on the other hand you can be fairly confident that all the questions you ask are answered by the same person
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15:31.44sanketh97Hey ..can I know the person who is representing Department of BioInformatics in this group
15:32.08sanketh97Department of BioInformatics, StonyBrook University*
15:32.46carolssanketh97: their contact info is on their homepage on melange
15:32.49abhitochill2its not compulosry they are here
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15:33.56sanketh97Yeah, @abhitochill2 but, they haven't been responding to the emails from 3-4 days so, I wanted to know of there is anyone in this group?
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15:34.21carolsthey’re probably busy
15:34.25raincrash<PROTECTED>
15:34.27carolsit’s the busiest time of the year for the orgs.
15:35.59raincrashsanketh97, They are really busy.Don't mail them if you want to know status, explain more details of your project e.t.c. Mail them only if it's a generic query.
15:36.51sanketh97raincrash , Okay, Thank you! :)
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16:19.27kumar007Where can I find yesterday's chat logs?
16:19.46meflin!logs
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16:20.28kumar007Thank you!
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16:30.14kumar007Is there any way the orgs can get a list of all the projects I have applied for from a similar dashboard/list of projects page for each student?
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16:30.33meflinno
16:30.53kumar007ok cool!
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16:31.31CFS-MP3kumar007 if you don't want orgs to know things you're already off to a bad start :-)
16:31.36abhitochill2not sure how that matters though
16:31.49carolsserves some more coffee and tea
16:32.01meflinmm tea
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16:32.30abhitochill2carols this is first time u wrote coffee nd tea u usualy write tea and coffre
16:32.35carols:-)
16:32.51abhitochill2seems like u r overworking urself
16:32.53pilhuhncarols thx, much appreciated :)
16:32.58carolscheers
16:33.21pilhuhnMeeting is in 1.5h - right?
16:33.33carolspilhuhn: 2.5 hours
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16:33.36carolswell, a few minutes less
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16:33.39abhitochill2have some tea and take a break:) de duplication is still more than hour away
16:34.17kumar007No its not that I don't want them to know,I was thinking what really goes on the org's side.Doesn't matter anyway!
16:34.23pilhuhnah, right. UTC without any DST additions :)
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16:34.54meflinkumar007: the real way to find out is keep working with your org and become an admin ;)
16:35.04kumar007Thanks carols for the tea!
16:35.08carolsyw
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16:36.30abhitochill2meflin i assume u will be one taking part in deduplication from python's side?
16:36.50kumar007meflin,yeah nice one!But that's not gonna happen anytime soon I guess,this is my first year of applying for GSOC.
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16:37.30abhitochill2i was wondering is a delegate from suborg also compulsory?
16:37.52neverpanickumar007: took me two years, but only because we didn't participate the year after, so it's not as unlikely as you think.
16:37.58Manishearthkumar007: it's not uncommon for a student to mentor the year after their first year in gsoc
16:38.10ManishearthI was going to mentor this year actually (org wasn't selected)
16:38.31PulkoMandyI was a mentor in my second GSoC as well
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16:38.37Manishearthohai PulkoMandy
16:38.46kumar007That's good to hear!
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16:39.24kumar007abhitochill2..If you don't mind me asking,are you a mentor or a student!
16:39.25abhitochill2its more like... first year you learn with gsoc.. second u teach.. third u manage?
16:39.35abhitochill2student
16:39.46PulkoMandyit depends
16:39.48Manishearthabhitochill2: no not like that :p
16:40.06PulkoMandysome students prefer to learn more by trying different orgs
16:40.12abhitochill2:p
16:40.19Manishearthabhitochill2: so if you stay involved with your org and continue to contribute, it's quite likely you'll mentor
16:40.27Manishearthit's not a ladder to climb :p
16:40.41abhitochill2right
16:40.41Manishearthorg admins are generally experienced folks though
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16:41.11abhitochill2hmmm true true
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16:41.27CFS-MP3The "mentor" status is formal from a GSoC point of view, but in practice all active team members do mentor
16:41.33Manishearthyep
16:41.37Manishearthwell, depends on your org
16:42.04neverpanicManishearth: are they? Being admin mostly involves organizational matters, not actually mentoring somebody. So I'd argue the hard work is done by the mentors.
16:42.09abhitochill2manishearth i take u are student this year?
16:42.20Manishearthabhitochill2: No, not participating
16:42.28abhitochill2ohk
16:42.33CFS-MP3our veteran students for these year will obviously be helping the new arrivals... they don't have mentor status (because they prefer to apply again as students) but they will be doing also what a mentor does
16:42.56Manishearthneverpanic: Im not saying you *need* experience to admin, but an org will generally put some longterm member as an org admin
16:43.12PulkoMandyneverpanic: for some definition of "hard". I would not appreciate being an org admin as it involves running after the mentors so they do things in time, and generally handling all the difficult problems and situations
16:43.14Manishearthabhitochill2: I mean, I *am* a student, but I'm not participating in gsoc
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16:43.26kumar007I agree! Its different in the open source world!By mentor the first thing that comes mind is a someone way up the ladder!But here its different,as long as you contribute you are an invaluable member!
16:43.41Manishearthyeah
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16:43.49PulkoMandybtw, in our case (Haiku) the org admin until now has been someone not part of our development team and who never mentored
16:44.07PulkoMandyit's great that we have some people other than developers donating some of their time to the org this way
16:44.12Manishearththat works
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16:44.56kumar007In Todays duplicate resolution meeting,only the orgs will be participating right?
16:45.03abhitochill2right
16:45.05Manishearthyes
16:45.17Manishearthas a student you sit tight till .. .Monday
16:45.49abhitochill2eeee y isnt result announced after de duplication?
16:46.06abhitochill2everything is done nd decided than right?
16:46.15carolsabhitochill2: no
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16:46.26brlcadPulkoMandy: that's a good thing imho :)
16:46.26kumar007So pardon me I am very new to this IRC chats ,what will happen in the meeting,wont that be available in the logs for everyone to see?
16:46.31brlcaddevs often make terrible managers
16:46.39carolskumar007: yes, it will be in the logs.
16:47.02abhitochill2carols what will be pending after deduplication if i may ask?
16:47.04ankuromarif an org hasn't replied to proposals from anyone on a particular project... does that mean they are not serious about that project even though they have included it in their list of gsoc ideas?
16:47.11carolsabhitochill2: all the rest of my work :-)
16:47.18brlcadankuromar: it doesn't mean anything
16:47.27raincrashThe meeting happens here on this channel? But won't that disclose some *acceptable* students?
16:47.27abhitochill2:p ohk :p
16:47.37carolsraincrash: yes, it will.
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16:47.47kumar007raincash exactly thats my question
16:47.51carolsif the orgs figured out all the duplicates before the meeting we wouldn’t have to worry about it
16:47.53carolsbut they don't
16:48.02carolsso every year 5 or 6 students figure out they’re duplicates
16:48.03brlcadraincrash: the org could still drop them post duplication-sorting out .. has happened before
16:48.03kumar007it is a conflict of interest,isn't it?
16:48.06carolsand we all survive
16:48.29downeyif we're really careful, we don't have to reveal the names. :-)
16:48.49carolsdowney: that’s true. a lot of orgs already know the student in question before i even mention a name
16:48.53neverpanicankuromar: not necessarily, it may just mean that they commented privately, only for other org members to see.
16:49.16brlcadcarols: 2 hour 10min from now, yes?
16:49.21carolsbrlcad: yes
16:49.28brlcadthen I should make some tea
16:49.35downeyit's always time for tea.
16:49.40brlcadagrees
16:49.42ankuromarohh
16:49.43abhitochill2mentor signup date has passed right?
16:50.03abhitochill2it was 24th right?
16:50.17carolsabhitochill2: are you hoping to sign up as a mentor?
16:50.24abhitochill2nope
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16:50.48abhitochill2just wondering whether my mentor has signed up or not :p lol
16:50.55carolsabhitochill2: did you ask him/her?
16:51.05carolsthat would be the way to get an answer.
16:51.14abhitochill2i did but there wasnt a clear cut answer
16:51.22carolsthen there isn’t a clear cut answer.
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16:51.41ankuromarbut they were actively participating for some other project ideas and not for that one particular idea..... that is why it made me think  that the project idea is not taken seriously. i am sorry for any offence :(
16:51.42gsoc879testing
16:51.55abhitochill2its my first year gsoc so i don't think i am really fit for mentor this year :)
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16:52.39PulkoMandyabhitochill2: I don't know about your particular org/mentor, but in our case when similar things happened we asked students if they could also consider one of the other ideas as a backup
16:52.53PulkoMandy(we also did this when a lot of students applied for the same idea)
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16:53.45abhitochill2nope didnt happen in my case... *sigh* lets hope for best and see how it goes.. this is gonna be tensed weekend :)
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17:01.39AbhToChill!logs
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17:04.36Abhishek_is mentoring for the same org he was a student in last year :)
17:05.00AbhToChillAbhishek is participating as gsoc first time student
17:05.07AbhToChilloops
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17:06.18lohitI have a small query. Are the logs of this channel public? If yes, how do i view them?
17:06.19gsoc487<PROTECTED>
17:06.32Abhishek_!logs | lohit
17:06.32gsocbotlohit: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
17:06.33AbhiToChill!log | lohit
17:06.33gsocbotAbhiToChill: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:06.35ryan_carols: can orgs assign slot to a different student if there are cases of duplicates in the meeting?
17:06.39AbhiToChill!logs | lohit
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17:06.57carolsryan_: do you mean can the org accept a different student?
17:07.05gsoc670whoiami
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17:07.12gsocbotgsoc670: I don't recognize you.
17:07.14ryan_carols: yes
17:07.19carolsryan_: yes
17:07.45AbhiToChillgsoc487 if u are studet its nothing to concern u
17:07.46ryan_carols: But according to melange the student acceptance deadline is over.
17:07.59raincrashgsoc670, You can PM gsocbot
17:08.03carolsryan_: you’re right.
17:08.15AbhiToChillgsoc487 its more like for orgs to finalise their accepted and rejected listed today
17:08.26ryan_carols: so how can they accept a different student?
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17:08.49carolsryan_: they would press the accept slider on a diffeent student and assign a mentor to that student
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17:09.29ryan_carols: i thought the accept slider is locked after the deadline.
17:09.38carolsryan_: if it is, please let me know
17:09.53grvanmcarols, Ohk :)
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17:10.59grvanmcarols, so are the final results decided tonight?
17:11.05carolsgrvanm: no
17:11.09carolsthey’re decided monday
17:11.13d4r3topk1carols: if I get selected in 2 orgs, which one will take me? one where my proposal is better?
17:11.27carolsd4r3topk1: the one where they decide they want to send you
17:11.54d4r3topk1I will never know about it
17:12.00d4r3topk1?
17:12.09carolsd4r3topk1: probably not
17:12.34d4r3topk1why dont we get choosing between the 2
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17:12.49carolsd4r3topk1: because we assume you wouldn’t apply to work for an organization you don’t want to work for
17:12.57carolsif you did, you should withdraw that application
17:13.33AbhiToChillthis topic was discussed completly few days back . there are more than one reasons for that d4r3topk1 .. i had same doubts but considering the variables mentors put up... i guess its right choice not to
17:13.55d4r3topk1what if I want to work for both the organizations. but more for one of them than the other
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17:14.36AbhiToChilldare but what if they didnt have another good replacement for same project?
17:14.49AbhiToChilland while the one u want to work for .. has lots lots of
17:15.04neverpanicd4r3topk1: it's up to the organizations to ask you, if they want – or not.
17:15.42d4r3topk1but wouldn't that be a break of rule of conduct by the org to not tell students before 27th?
17:15.54AbhiToChillin case of dups its bit of acceptable
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17:16.33dfighterthey don't neccessarily know about the deduplication process
17:16.38dfighternot to mention you can ask it subtly
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17:23.42ishan1604!numapps
17:23.42gsocbotishan1604: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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17:40.00AbhiToChilli was reading last year's deduplication meeting
17:40.06AbhiToChilllooks a lot like auction :D
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17:41.09Neel_007@AbhiToChill what's the date
17:41.45AbhiToChillhttp://infobot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/20140418.html.gz
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17:41.55Neel_007thanks
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17:46.04carolskblin: did you actually end up making it today?
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17:46.44neverpaniclast year's was a pretty smooth and quick show, I recall.
17:47.32meflinbreath of fresh air over previous years :D
17:48.28AbhiToChillyeah it was
17:48.40AbhiToChilljust read it .. it was like smooth and short
17:48.49AbhiToChilli wonder how many duplicates are there this year
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17:50.24carolsAbhiToChill: you’ll find out in an hour and 10 minutes.
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17:50.41AbhiToChilli got fever.. i might not make it.. though am trying my best to :P
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17:50.55meflinhave a tea and relax
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17:51.41carolswould be nice if the orgs resolved all the duplicates and i could just cancel the meeting
17:52.10downeycarols: don't assume they didn't try :-)
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17:52.20carolsdowney: i won’t :-)
17:53.07downeyis there a record for shortest de-duplication meeting? :)
17:53.28AbhiToChilldowny i suppose the first gsoc :D
17:53.30gandalfcome@carols: where would I see if my organization has duplicates ?
17:53.37carolsgandalfcome: on your proposal list
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17:54.22carolsplease keep in mind though that even if your org is not in a duplicate situation you must still attend the meeting
17:54.36carolswe often have orgs that accept a new student during the meeting which creates a new duplicate
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17:55.19gandalfcomeokay they all say in green pending acceptance. Yes, I definitely will attend the meeting.
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17:56.39carolsi try to keep the meeting short since i know everyone’s time is very valuable.
17:56.49tch__carols, we (sugarlabs) resolved all the duplicates we had, I am crossing finger so we don't get new ones during the meeting ;)
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17:56.57downeyAre we doing the change-your-nick thing this year?
17:57.04carolstch__: i’ll cross my fingers for that as well :-)
17:57.17carolsdowney: there’s no need. when i call reps for an org they can just identify themselves to me
17:57.19schillyyes, I'm also trying to remember the nickname pattern
17:57.34carolssince i don’t have anyone else helping me run the meeting this year :-)
17:57.37schillyok ;)
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17:58.07carolsdowney: we’re on the honor system here :-)
17:58.07gandalfcomewell if there is anything we can help with - let us know.
17:58.14downeyheh
17:58.21carolsi would hope a rogue person wouldn’t represent themselves as being from an org they weren't
17:58.25carolshaven’t had that problem yet
17:58.58scorche<@carols> since i don’t have anyone else helping me run the meeting this year :-)      <-- i'm here  =)
17:59.05carolsscorche: oh you are :-)
17:59.08carolswell that’s awesome
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17:59.17carolsyes, i’d love someone to help me voice folks if you’re up for it
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17:59.27scorchecertainly
17:59.36carolsthanks very much
17:59.43xispacarols, an off-topic.. another org send back an slot to the pool with our org name, I thought we would receive an email or something... Is there the possibility to receive that slot still?
17:59.56carolsxispa: you’ll need to email me about it
18:00.13xispak
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18:00.33gandalfcomeif there are duplicates found here will they be distributed to the people on the waiting list straight away?
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18:00.45dwd-xsfI just assumed having the org in my nick would help.
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18:01.02carolsgandalfcome: you mean slots given back?
18:01.06gandalfcomeyep
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18:01.13carolsnope
18:01.20carolsthe acceptance choice deadline has passed
18:01.25gandalfcomeI see thanks
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18:01.57gandalfcome@dwd-xsf what's the nick format?
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18:02.25carolshi folks, the deduplication meeting starts in just under an hour
18:02.32AbhiToChillorg-nick i guess that would be a right format
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18:03.14kumar007Quick question!I didn't get any mail from Google on submitting my proposals.Is it normal not to receive any confirmation mail?
18:03.20schillyearlier about nicks: <@carols> downey: there’s no need. when i call reps for an org they can just identify themselves to me
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18:03.39carolskumar007: there’s no proposal submission email
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18:04.02Ambar@carols when does the deduplication period start??
18:04.06kumar007ok,thanks carols!
18:04.10carolsAmbar: the meeting?
18:04.25carolsokay
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18:04.26carolsbye
18:04.45carolsserves some more coffee and tea
18:05.08meflinhas a tea and relaxes
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18:05.46AbhiToChillcarols i was wondering.. how do you tackle.. fake imposter in this meeting?
18:06.01carolsAbhiToChill: we’ve never had one before
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18:06.06carolsis there something i need to know about?
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18:06.13AbhiToChillnope
18:06.21AbhiToChilljust had a thought so was wondering
18:06.25amuellerthe meeting starts in 55minutes?
18:06.35meflinAbhiToChill: they are eaten by a gru
18:06.36carolsamueller: 54 minutes
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18:06.47AbhiToChillgru?
18:07.08meflinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_%28monster%29
18:07.44AbhiToChillmeflin is scary
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18:09.03q174carols: If there's a de-duplication for a student, does orgs ask the students abt their preferences?
18:09.13carolsq174: if they choose to.
18:09.13ScalaTeam|sjrdSay we had a duplicate but resolved it by mail. What can I do to speed up the meeting? Should I mark the proposal as Rejected on our side (since we've decided the student would go with other org)?
18:09.28carolsScalaTeam|sjrd: whoever lost the student unaccepts the student
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18:09.34carolsthen it’s no longer a duplicate
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18:09.40ScalaTeam|sjrdok thanks, will do that right now
18:09.46carolscheers
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18:10.33AbhiToChillcarols if a org unaccept a student.. they loose a slot or can they accept a replacement student ..?
18:10.47carolsAbhiToChill: they can accept another student if they want.
18:10.59AbhiToChillohk
18:11.02q174carols: If not ask to students, what could be the reason that an org choose to give up on the student?
18:11.11carolsq174: give up?
18:11.15carolsi don’t know what you mean
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18:11.45AbhiToChillq174 think about it this way... that the other org needed that student more
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18:12.00AbhiToChillas they did not had a replacement or somthing
18:12.01q174I mean 2 org want a same student, how do they decide which org will not accept or will accept
18:12.06elbPidgin has given up students in the past to an org that, e.g., had fewer slots
18:12.12blast007q174: by talking to each other
18:12.17elband therefore less room to choose the students they really want
18:12.28Abhishek_and telling carols about it?
18:12.30dwd-xmppq174, We ask students what their reference is in their application/proposal.
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18:12.51q174ok
18:13.08elbback when, you know, we got proposals
18:13.11dwd-xmppq174, Preference, rather. So if there's a dupe, we have what the student says they'd like to happen.
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18:13.51akyteThe deduplication meeting is at 3, right?
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18:14.07AbhiToChillits in 45 minutes
18:14.08dwd-xmppakIt's in 45 minutes or so.
18:14.09smcgregorakyte: 45 minutes from now, I believe
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18:15.00dwd-xmppakyte-Mono, You totally don't need to copy me. Plain "dwd" was taken years ago, after I stopped using IRC. :-)
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18:15.01q174Are students also welcome, or just org representatives in this meeting?
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18:15.10AbhiToChilleveything is welcomed to spectate
18:15.55sahil*everyone
18:16.01AbhiToChilleveyone*
18:16.05AbhiToChilleveryone*
18:16.27meflinlets all have a tea and relax
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18:16.49carolshi folks
18:16.51akyte-Monodwd-xmpp: I figured it would make the meeting a bit easier
18:16.59carolsthe deduplication meeting starts in about 45 minutes
18:17.03akyte-MonoBut you know what they say about imitation and flattery
18:17.35q174gotcha
18:17.47homsaThe duplication meeting is not for every org seperately?
18:17.53neverpanichomsa: no
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18:18.12homsaBut duplications are only posible within an organisation right?
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18:18.36carolshomsa: um, no. duplicates are possible across organizations as well.
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18:19.08scorchehomsa: duplicates often occur when more than one organization accepts the same student for a project each has
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18:19.29olasd.oO(people should prefix their nicks with their orgs instead of suffixing, makes it easier to look for them)
18:19.41homsaOhh. I thought duplicates were redundant projects within the same orgs.
18:19.44scorcheit is also recommended that all orgs participate, as resolving duplicates can (rarely, but it has happened) cause additional duplicates
18:19.54homsaDo many people submit for more than one org?
18:19.57dwd-xmppolasd, I didn't, I prefixed my org with my nick.
18:20.04olasd:)
18:20.29AbhiToChillhomsa .. a few
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18:21.00homsaSo the meeting wont be long :P
18:21.10AbhiToChilllets hope so
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18:21.15AbhiToChillbut you never know
18:21.20elbthat depends a lot on how prepared people are
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18:21.52AbhiToChilland last minute dups too
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18:30.08carolshi folks, the deduplication meeting starts in 30 minutes. thanks for coming. please have some tea while you wait.
18:30.12carolsserves some tea
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18:31.50pedab__carols, any special action required to identify as org admin?
18:31.58carolspedab__: nope
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18:32.08pedab__ok :)
18:32.10carolsjust follow the directions once i start the meeting
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18:32.42carolshopefully it will be short and i’ll get you all out of here quickly.
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18:44.24akyte-MonoWe don't have any dedups, since we worked it out beforehand. I was told to be around just in case though.
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18:44.42scorcheyes
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18:44.48carolsakyte-Mono: that’s correct
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18:44.56akyte-MonoNo complaints
18:45.00carolsoften an org will accept a new student and that will create a new duplicate
18:45.05carolsi will do my best to keep it short
18:45.15carolshi folks, the deduplication meeting starts in 15 minutes. thanks for coming. i’ll mute the channel in about 5 minutes.
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18:45.59ryan_carols: what does mute means?
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18:46.09carolsryan_: only ops can speak
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18:50.12carolshi folks
18:50.18carolsthe deduplication meeting starts in 10 minutes
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18:50.20carolsthank you for coming
18:50.27carolsi’ve muted the channel for now
18:50.37carolsi’ll give you all instructions as soon as we begin
18:50.47carolsfor now have some tea and relax :-)
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18:55.16carolshi everyone, thanks for coming
18:55.21carolsmeeting will start in 5 minutes
18:55.32carolsi’ll give instructions as soon as we bring
18:55.34carols*begin
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18:58.53carolshi everyone, meeting starts in 2 minutes
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19:00.01carols===BEGIN GSOC 2015 IRC DEDUPLICATION MEETING===
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19:00.06carolsHi everyone
19:00.11carolsthanks very much for coming. i know you all have very busy schedules and i will do my upmost to be respectful of your time.
19:00.17carolsi’m hoping to have everyone out of here very quickly
19:00.22carolswe currently have 2 duplicates
19:00.27carolsi will go through my list and call a representative for each org involved in the duplication
19:00.33carolsi’ll give you a minute or so to ping scorche for voice
19:00.38carolsat that point we’ll discuss the duplicate
19:00.43carolsif an org ends up not represented in this meeting, the student automatically goes to the other org
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19:00.49carolsso with that, let’s get started!
19:01.07carolsfirst up, i need representative from openmrs and fossasia please
19:01.12carolsplease pm scorche for voice
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19:01.21carolsi’ll give you some time to get settled
19:01.26carolshi downey
19:01.29downeyHi. :-)
19:01.34carolsi assume you’re representing openmrs
19:01.36carols:-)
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19:01.38downeyI am.
19:01.51carolswe’ll wait a minute for the fossasia folks
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19:02.25carolsscorche: have you been contacted by any fossasia folks?
19:02.30scorchei have not
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19:02.41carolsalright, going one for a fossasia representative.
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19:03.01carolsgoing twice for fossasia.
19:03.24carolsfinal call for a representative for fossasia.
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19:03.40carolsalright, the student goes to openmrs
19:03.41carolsso noted
19:03.43carolsmoving along
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19:04.03carolsnext i need reps for github and ruby please
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19:04.18carolswe’ll wait a sec to get sorted
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19:04.37carolshi shana
19:04.42shanahi carols
19:04.43carolswhich org are you representing?
19:04.46shanagithub here :)
19:04.48carolsgreat
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19:04.54carolsso we’ll wait on the ruby folks
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19:05.09scorcheTo be clear, this is github - not git  =)
19:05.23shanaayup!
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19:05.36tarcieriohai, Ruby here!
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19:05.37carolsalright we’ve got tarcieri here for ruby
19:05.39carolsgreat
19:05.48carolsstudent in question is William Woodruff
19:05.52shanayeah
19:05.53carolshave you folks spoken about this student?
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19:05.59tarcieriyes, he should go to Github
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19:06.10carolsokay, tarcieri can you unaccept the student?
19:06.16tarcieriok!
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19:06.21carolswonderful, thanks very much
19:06.22shanayou were faster at typing than me :)
19:06.25carolsstudent goes to github
19:06.26shanabounces
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19:06.37carolsthat’s all the dupes we had in our initial calculation
19:06.39*** mode/#gsoc [-vv shana tarcieri] by scorche
19:06.42carolsso i’ll need to rerunt he script
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19:06.48carolsso please hold tight for a couple minutes
19:07.16carolswe may make this the shortest deduplication meeting yet :-)
19:07.30carolsplease have some tea while we wait on the script
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19:07.34carolsserves some tea
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19:09.29carolswonderful, we officially have finished deduplication
19:09.38carolsthanks everyone for coming, you may now go on with your lives :-)
19:09.45carols==END GSOC 2015 IRC DEDUPLICATION MEETING==
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19:09.46scuttlemonkey<PROTECTED>
19:09.47shanawoohoo!
19:09.48AbhiToChillshortest deduplication meeting record goes to gsoc2015 :D
19:09.49elbthat was amazing
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19:09.50Bart_Massey-PSUThanks!
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19:09.52[qed]thanks
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19:09.53tch__awesome
19:09.53_av500_thx
19:09.53xispawohohoooho thanks!
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19:09.54RoserRthanks!
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19:09.57EionRobbtoo short, do it again
19:09.58RIOT-emmanuelCheers!
19:09.58pilhuhnthx
19:10.00myfearYeahaa! :)
19:10.00akyte-MonoThanks, that was very painless
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19:10.01bond007thanks
19:10.01garvitdelhiawesome :D
19:10.02dwd-xmppcarols, Thanks for all the hard work; really appreciated.
19:10.02tarcieri:D
19:10.04KiryxThanks!
19:10.04kushalEionRobb, hehe
19:10.04tarcierithank you!
19:10.04quaid+1
19:10.06dbpediaspotlightthanks!
19:10.06schillycollective learning pays off ;-)
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19:10.08AbhiToChillchannel is spammed lol
19:10.10carolsdwd-xmpp: of course
19:10.10zbynek_geogebrathanks
19:10.12scorcheshhhhhhhh
19:10.13pilhuhnwow, no fighting over students, no nothing .. :)
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19:10.19_av500_carols: my tea is not even done!
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19:10.22sachindsWOW! Such Wave. Much Spam
19:10.22eclipsefdn_jelenThanks!
19:10.24cmedina_p2pspthanks!
19:10.25helikarlabthat was easy
19:10.27shanathank you for the tea!
19:10.28ranierethanks. This was the faster meeting I ever had.
19:10.29shiffmanThanks Carol!
19:10.30shreythanks!
19:10.31gsoc111Hi, since all the students are finalized, what happens during the next 3 days?
19:10.31carolsyw
19:10.31eceramithanks.  bye
19:10.32vineetI came, read all the chat and the meating is over :)
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19:10.34David_Honeynetsupect quick ession. good job carols :)
19:10.36pecosThanks all !
19:10.43_av500_gsoc111: party
19:10.44edwardkthat was fast
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19:10.50nowdrinkingteanick teaoverbeforeIcoulddrinkit
19:10.56_av500_+11
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19:11.02mackamthank you
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19:11.06prthdoes that mean the accepted students list will also be shortest!? :P
19:11.07giuseppe-GNUgets a beer
19:11.18AbhiToChilllol prth
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19:11.27schillygsoc111: good rule of thumb: never announce something right before the weekend starts
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19:11.27edwardkgsoc111: basically we sit around and patiently don't tell anyone anything
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19:11.46gevaertsprth: it's written sideways this year. Very short, but *extremely* wide!
19:11.49brlcadcarols: as it's been demonstrated for a couple years now, I think the new system is working very well -- as much as I love seeing everyone on IRC, the deduplication meeting is probably no longer needed...
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19:11.54gsoc111oh! That is *hard*
19:11.54homsaRuby were like, let github have him, just finish this quick :P
19:12.00carolsbrlcad: i would like that very much.
19:12.13syslog-ng-LaszloI've just made my tea... and dedup meeting ends? :-)
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19:12.25carolsdo i have any reps from mono project here right now?
19:12.27shanaI don't know, this meeting is fun :)
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19:12.30meflinsyslog-ng-Laszlo: plan better and make tea sooner ;)
19:12.30_av500_is there chocolate now?
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19:12.46CFS-MP3carols, can org still change students or it's paws off melange from now on?
19:12.49pecoswow, spaghetti are ready... food inc
19:12.52shanacarols: I'm a mentor on mono, but not an admin, but I can poke someone
19:12.54carolsCFS-MP3: paws off
19:12.55nowdrinkingteaakyte-Mono maybe?
19:12.59edwardk_av500_: i think for chocolate you have to show up at the gsoc mentor summit
19:13.06_av500_edwardk: I will for sure
19:13.10carolsif there’s anyone here from mono please pm me
19:13.10akyte-Monoshana: Hi
19:13.13brlcadshana: it is fun, and it used to take a half hour+ ... but with so few duplications, it's really an artifact of days long past now
19:13.14carolsah
19:13.23carolsakyte-Mono: are you an org admin?
19:13.29akyte-Monocarols: I am
19:13.37Sqtsyslog-ng-Laszlo: ikr?
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19:13.38Abhishek_is looking forward to the mentor summit as well
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19:13.47brlcadmost any are handled behind the scenes now that orgs can see who the conflict is with, they get resolved in advance easily
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19:14.18gevaertsThere will always be one or two orgs that won't respond. It's hard to have a bit of software prove it's their fault
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19:14.30gevaertsI suspect the meeting will always be needed because of those
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19:15.11AbhiToChillwho is with me who wanted to see some catfight?:P
19:15.13AbhiToChilllol
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19:15.19brlcadjust looking at it in terms of efficiency, there were about 550 bodies online for a 10 minute meeting. that's 91 hours of coding potential lost ;)
19:15.37guestuser9370brlcad: nice
19:15.40thisisjustspamnobrlcad: People could code while the meeting was on too. ;)
19:15.46hpcc-dev@carols When do we see the status on proposal change from Pending Acceptance to Accepted?
19:15.47pilhuhngevaerts our org got contacted by CarolS last monday (iirc) to take care of de-dup long before today
19:15.55carolshpcc-dev: 19:00 UTC on monday
19:16.04hpcc-devThanks
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19:16.10schillygevaerts: yes, but e.g. right this for this one, it's just a hard deadline. foss asia might be someone in asia, and it's like 4am there. so, no surprise, nobody shows up.
19:16.10pilhuhnIt is not like admins need to sit in front of their browser and constantly hit refresh :
19:16.11carolsyw
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19:16.36brlcadthisisjustspamno: this is not really true if you're an org admin, you'll notice the window to respond to your org name being called was just a couple minutes (certainly didn't need to be longer, but it requires active attention)
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19:17.27_av500_is there a github for "code written during dedup"?
19:17.32Amanpsince all the students are finalized, what happens during the next 3 days?
19:17.37brlcadhpcc-dev: it's just some UI bug .. it eventually updates itself to the right state -- better to enter true in the accepted column
19:17.38guestuser9370carols: still org can change the selected students?
19:17.39_av500_anon1234: nothing
19:17.43carolsguestuser9370: no
19:17.44neverpanicAmanp: a relaxing weekend.
19:17.45gevaertsschilly: of course, but the assumption is that either no agreement could be reached earlier, or one of the parties already didn't respond to email for the past week or so
19:17.51schillyAmanp: we sit tight and wait for the offical announcement
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19:18.18schillygevaerts: exactly. there is probably a week time to settle this. the meeting is the hard deadline
19:18.23shuchitgandhi!logs
19:18.23gsocbotshuchitgandhi: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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19:18.31brlcadcarols: thanks for your everlasting patience, once again
19:18.36_av500_+1
19:18.45gsoc111+1
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19:18.51TahirWhat are is stats  for 2015?
19:18.58gsoc111!numapps
19:18.58gsocbotgsoc111: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
19:19.19guestuser9370carols: then what is the meaning of 3 days waiting period?
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19:19.33_av500_we call it weekend
19:19.36neverpanicTahir: the stats will usually be published a few weeks after GSoC started.
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19:19.59TahirThanks nevermind
19:20.00guestuser9370_av500_:  +1
19:20.02downeyweekend++
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19:20.23gevaertsguestuser9370: my assumption has always been (a) double-check everything and (b) a margin in case unexpected things happen
19:20.34sttaylorguestuser9370: there are still things carols has to do once this meeting is done and before the accepted students can be announced. Plus it is the weekend.
19:20.48AbhiToChillthis is gonna be long weekend
19:20.51guestuser9370gevaerts: good
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19:21.52shuchitgandhi!next
19:21.53gsocbotshuchitgandhi: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC
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19:22.10cryosWow that was a fast meeting!!!
19:22.28AbhiToChillit sure was
19:22.30louisgagnonMBDynHello everypne sorry im late
19:22.38AbhiToChillits over louis
19:23.00louisgagnonMBDynOk did i miss spmething important ?
19:23.11quaidonly if you are from fossasia
19:23.13AbhiToChillnot really
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19:23.32AbhiToChillquaid from what i heard.. i guess fossasia dup was already sorted out..
19:23.39louisgagnonMBDynOk thks
19:23.47downeyYes, everyone is OK now. :-)
19:23.52louisgagnonMBDynGood
19:24.04shuchitgandhi!logs
19:24.04gsocbotshuchitgandhi: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
19:24.27shuchitgandhiwhere will I find the logs of the meeting ?
19:24.43AbhiToChill!logs
19:24.43gsocbotAbhiToChill: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
19:24.48guestuser9370so today is the last date for student acceptance. Never mind just asking as a student
19:25.19shuchitgandhiNo logs for today on this link
19:25.26AbhiToChillthere wont be till tommorow
19:25.28gevaertsNot yet. They appear at midnight UTC
19:25.31shuchitgandhiI want the logs for today's meeting
19:25.38shuchitgandhiok
19:25.43louisgagnonMBDynGood luck with the coding, see you guys around!
19:26.18gevaertsIf you need the logs urgently, someone can probably copy the entire thing to a pastebin for you
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19:26.48gevaertsIf you're just curious, I'd recommend waiting until they appear
19:26.54akyte-MonoI think freenode has short-term logs for many channels if you can find them.
19:26.56rahulchshuchitgandhi: https://paste.kde.org/pfwczchsr <- you can take a look at this for now
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19:27.04guestuser9370so today is the last date for student acceptance. Never mind just asking as a student
19:27.09_av500_yes
19:27.13_av500_this morning
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19:27.20_av500_its all set in stone now
19:27.26_av500_frozen in carbonite
19:27.41darkprincecaught in a pokeball
19:27.46darkprince:P
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19:27.55gevaertsThat's why the results can't be announced until monday. Carving all these selections in stone takes time...
19:28.04_av500_this!
19:28.11kragnizgevaerts: now it all makes sense
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19:28.20shuchitgandhirahulch : Thanks a lot !!
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19:28.31msim9Hello
19:28.35carolshi msim9
19:28.37rahulchshuchitgandhi: no problem
19:29.04AbhiToChillhi msim9
19:29.15msim9When can I know the results of gsoc 2015
19:29.19AbhiToChill27th
19:29.21downeymsim9: September?
19:29.25gevaerts!next | msim9
19:29.26gsocbotmsim9: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC
19:30.04msim9Actually in the website its showed a deadline as today... What about it?
19:30.09_av500_yes
19:30.13AbhiToChillit was some other deadline
19:30.14_av500_today was thre deadline
19:30.20_av500_the announce is monday
19:31.27msim9If there's no any public mailing list, Can we know how many people submitted proposals for a particular project?
19:31.43carolsmsim9: sure, you can ask them
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19:32.37AbhiToChillyou can ask ur org... but its their choice to tell or not
19:32.49msim9What actually is today's deadline?
19:33.10AbhiToChillit was dedup and proposal matching deadline
19:33.14msim9So officially the resluts are out with the mentors by today. but they wont let it out till monday?
19:33.20carolsnope
19:33.24carolsi know, it’s terrible
19:33.27carolsyou still have to wait
19:33.29carolshave some tea
19:33.30shanawelcome to gsoc :)
19:33.31carolsserves some tea
19:33.36shanasips tea
19:34.39msim9So if selected when will the initial $500 get transferred?
19:34.43errr_do organisations take interview of the candidates they feel like taking in the project?
19:35.08AbhiToChillsome does some dont errr_
19:35.10neverpanicerrr_: depends on the organisation, but some do.
19:35.16carolsmsim9: may 25
19:35.20errr_ok
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19:36.28gevaerts!timeline | msim9
19:36.28gsocbotmsim9: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015
19:36.30gevaertsIt's all there
19:36.57tamertascarols: why not let the students rank their proposals when they submit and run a stable marriage problem algorithm? instead of holding meetings
19:37.01msim9can we at least know how many seats are reserved for a particular organisation? whether my project ahs at least 1 seat or not?
19:37.17edwardkit sounds like tamertas just volunteered to work on melange
19:37.44AbhiToChillmsim9 thats on your org
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19:37.49AbhiToChillwhether they choose to disclose or not
19:37.56AbhiToChillyou will have to ask them directly
19:37.56downeytamertas: https://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted :)
19:38.05carolstamertas: sure, submit a feature request
19:38.09msim9no I didnt find the number of seats reserved for my organisation :\
19:38.20tamertasI like the way you guys think :)
19:38.37AbhiToChillyou will have to ask them directly.. they can choose not to disclose
19:38.44neverpanicmsim9: did you actually ask? The orgs may not actively publish the number, but would tell you if you asked.
19:38.46edwardktamertas: that said, within an org the org may have different preferences than the student about what the student works on, e.g. we often have students submit 2 or more proposals to us, so the stable marriage solution given separate org acceptance/rejection of parts of their proposals seems.. messy
19:38.49asehilcarols: How many total slots/students are there this year?
19:39.03carolsasehil: that will be announced on monday
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19:39.37msim9hehe in fact everything on monday :P Yeah i can understand that you have some rules :D
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19:40.15_av500_msim9: can you make it through the weekend without knowing?
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19:40.45msim9of course not :P can you help me in knowing the resluts? :P
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19:41.10_av500_tried to google them?
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19:41.29_av500_maybe carols left her dropbox open
19:41.39carolssorry?
19:41.46_av500_nvm :)
19:41.50_av500_google doc
19:41.54_av500_dof course
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19:42.10tamertasedwardk: having to coordinate this many people is always messy I get it :)
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19:42.23_av500_msim9: you will have to wait and see
19:42.28_av500_like everybody else
19:42.42gsoc1@carols Are there any extra slots and if so when will they be allocated?
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19:43.04carolsgsoc1: i don’t allocate slots now. the student acceptance choise deadline has passed
19:43.38gsoc1Ok thanks
19:43.56darkterrorStudents who will get selected this year are finalized ?
19:44.03_av500_yes
19:44.19SqtYour org won't tell you early or anything, just a heads up
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19:44.35dfighterI think all of you should have some tea
19:44.37dfighter:P
19:44.41SqtEveryone is notified on Monday :)
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19:45.40homsaBut William Woodruff knows :P
19:45.49dfighternot neccessarily
19:45.54gevaertsactually recommends *not* having tea every time someone recommends it in here
19:46.04gevaertsThere is such a thing as too much tea!
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19:46.14arthurvrgevaerts: are you sure?
19:46.24homsahe is going to github right?
19:46.26gevaertsarthurvr: fairly sure, yes!
19:46.29darkterrorStudents who will get selected this year are finalized ?
19:46.31dfighterdepends on the tea and your kidneys I guess
19:46.34_av500_darkterror: yes
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19:46.56ekOreoshakegevaerts:  I suggest having Oreo Shakes then :)
19:47.06_av500_prefers tea l'orange
19:47.19SqtekOreoshake, I'd have to advise against that if you're on a diet or eating healthy
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19:47.24darkterror_av500_: Is that possible if sub org selected a proposal and the main org under which sub org lies rejects that proposal ?
19:47.40_av500_darkterror: this I dont know
19:48.11Sqtdarkterror, Your question doesn't make munch sense, but from what I understand suborgs aren't a GSoC concern, rather the umbrellas
19:48.12ekOreoshakeits okay to have one, now and then :)
19:48.33gevaertsdarkterror: technically the org admin does all the selecting work, so suborgs can at best recommend or request selections
19:48.52darkterrorOkay. Got it :)
19:48.53cpt_yossarianwoah
19:48.56cpt_yossariani'm William Woodruff
19:49.13cpt_yossarianthat surprised me a little - didn't expect someone to use my name on here
19:49.19gevaertscpt_yossarian: there may be more than one William Woodruff in gsoc
19:49.30dfightercpt_yossarian, then gz?
19:49.42dfightergevaerts, also has a point
19:49.43shanacpt_yossarian: you were one of the two dupes discussed during the meeting, if you're that willian woodruff
19:49.56flipper_carols: are orgs allowed to reveal how many slots they got (i.e. the number of students selected for the org) ?
19:50.02cpt_yossarianshana: meeting?
19:50.04AbhiToChillyes they are flipper
19:50.04carolsflipper_: yes, they are allowed to.
19:50.07carolsthey don’t have to
19:50.09carolsbut they may
19:50.22cpt_yossariani received an email about being accepted to GH for gsoc this morning
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19:50.30AbhiToChillcarols do u have some pretyped responses ?:P or saved templates?:P
19:50.36carolsAbhiToChill: no
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19:51.14dfighterMelange probably broke then
19:51.24cpt_yossariandfighter: gz?
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19:51.34dfightercpt_yossarian, nvm :)
19:51.51shanacpt_yossarian: that was because of the duplicate proposals
19:51.58cpt_yossarianah, i see
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19:52.17shanaofficial announcements are on monday
19:52.19gevaertshopes it was made clear that things aren't final until monday
19:52.44cpt_yossarianalright, thank you
19:52.52cpt_yossariani was just a little surprised to see my name :P
19:53.19AbhiToChillanyone would cpt :)
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19:59.06vin-ivarcatch 22 reference?
19:59.08vin-ivaro/
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20:01.40cpt_yossarianyes, it's one of my favorite books
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20:30.15ImmortalPhoenix!numapps
20:30.15gsocbotImmortalPhoenix: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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20:33.49lo0l!numapps
20:33.49gsocbotlo0l: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
20:34.02lo0l!help
20:34.02gsocbotlo0l: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
20:35.16ashishof77!log
20:35.17gsocbotashishof77: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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20:37.43k_yashcarols: hey carols! is the de-duplication related to ruby org or ruby on rails org ?
20:38.56teepeek_yash: de-duplication is over anyway and there was someone from ruby
20:39.15k_yashteepee okay! thanks
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20:47.53lo0lHey, I cannot see the logs for 24th?
20:48.04lo0lis there anyway, I can see then now?
20:48.23AbhiToChillu wish to see dedup?
20:48.23ImmortalPhoenixlo0l: Wait till 00:00 UTC
20:48.24meflinpatience
20:48.52lo0lyeah, interested in how the dedup process happens :)
20:48.57AbhiToChillhttps://paste.kde.org/pfwczchsr
20:49.09AbhiToChillsomeone posted this today
20:49.23gevaertsThen the logs aren't the right place. Most of the deduplication happens long before the meeting
20:49.41lo0lAbhiToChill : Thanks :)
20:50.06lo0lAbhiToChill : mentoring this year?
20:50.33AbhiToChillnope
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20:51.25AbhiToChillam a student
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20:51.41lo0lAbhiToChill : pretty cool :)
20:51.48lo0lAbhiToChill : first timer?
20:51.53AbhiToChillyeah
20:52.02AbhiToChillgotta go.. goodnight take care :)
20:52.12lo0lyeah, you too :)
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