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| 04:55.19 | abhitochill | when does slot allocation starts? |
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| 04:55.44 | abhitochill | Nd are orgs allowed to disclose how many slots they get if they wish to? |
| 04:58.25 | guicho | Google Summer of Code will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC << if this info is up-to-date |
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| 04:59.16 | abhitochill | sloy allocation starts |
| 04:59.24 | abhitochill | in couple days if am right |
| 05:00.43 | abhitochill | results to be on 27 but my question is can they tell number of slots they got? |
| 05:06.18 | olly | they are allowed to but aren't required to |
| 05:06.29 | olly | not that it tells you much really |
| 05:06.51 | olly | since you can't see the proposals they have |
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| 05:07.09 | abhitochill | okaaa |
| 05:07.41 | olly | if they're a first time org, the answer is likely to be 2 anyway |
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| 05:14.03 | thiago | abhitochill: no, orgs are not allowed to disclose how many slots they got |
| 05:14.28 | thiago | well, they're strongly encouraged not to |
| 05:14.37 | thiago | the number may still change |
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| 05:15.30 | abhitochill | lohkk |
| 05:15.32 | abhitochill | ohk* |
| 05:15.47 | abhitochill | not allowed or not enouraged? |
| 05:15.59 | thiago | carols will tell whether they should or not |
| 05:16.04 | thiago | I remember her saying we shouldn't say |
| 05:16.12 | thiago | but olly just said differently, so I may be misremembering |
| 05:16.24 | thiago | so... either way, don't expect to be told |
| 05:16.51 | olly | we definitely not allowed to tell students if they're accepted or not until the announcement |
| 05:17.04 | abhitochill | olly that i know |
| 05:17.18 | olly | I'm pretty sure we're allowed to say how many slots we have, though as thiago says it can go up or down |
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| 05:17.36 | olly | possibly that's changed and I didn't notice |
| 05:18.06 | abhitochill | okay |
| 05:18.29 | thiago | wait, aren't the numbers published anyway? |
| 05:18.30 | abhitochill | eee its just hard to wait without any much updates :p |
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| 05:19.38 | olly | thiago: no, not for many years |
| 05:20.03 | olly | used to be lh sent out a list to the mentors list |
| 05:20.39 | olly | I think they probably stopped because it tended to result in some people complaining other orgs had more slots than them, etc |
| 05:21.12 | abhitochill | hmm |
| 05:21.18 | olly | ok, in a mail to the mentors list in 2013, "Carol has told me that the number of slots an org got is not a secret, and it's up to an organization to disclose it or not." |
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| 05:21.45 | olly | i guess if you've said you got X applications and you ask for and get X slots, you shouldn't reveal that... |
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| 05:22.15 | olly | if so, I'm impressed at either the quality of your applicants, or how low your standards are |
| 05:22.36 | thiago | and the X applications, whether they included nonsense applications like those "be a genius" ones |
| 05:23.25 | olly | that's true - I've made blogs posts some years saying something like "of the 40 applications, 10 were junk we're ignoring" |
| 05:25.27 | abhitochill | geting x wud be almost impossible i guess |
| 05:25.48 | abhitochill | but i get the point |
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| 05:26.06 | abhitochill | basicaly nothing that reveals end resulta |
| 05:26.10 | abhitochill | results* |
| 05:28.13 | olly | though thiago just implied whoever submitted a "be a genius" proposal to his org isn't getting accepted! |
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| 05:36.44 | abhitochill | haha |
| 05:36.48 | abhitochill | be a genius or he is a genius |
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| 06:02.05 | vinit-ivar | yeah, though once they know what slots they've got, they'll be able to tell you whether you're likely in or not |
| 06:02.46 | olly | vin-ivar: carols explicitly says we should NOT discuss that with students |
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| 06:08.03 | vin-ivar | ah, I see |
| 06:08.24 | vin-ivar | why not, though? |
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| 06:11.45 | olly | vin-ivar: i guess because the answers aren't final until the announcement |
| 06:11.58 | olly | so it just causes problems |
| 06:12.21 | olly | ask her if you want to know for sure |
| 06:12.43 | olly | I mean why that's the policy - she's clearly said it is repeatedly |
| 06:13.40 | |Kev| | Including threatening to kick out any org that does discuss it with students early. |
| 06:15.22 | vin-ivar | hm, fair enough, I suppose |
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| 06:21.09 | abhitochill | student r u |
| 06:21.11 | abhitochill | ? |
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| 10:35.18 | cs_shadow | Is there a feature on Melange to mail all the mentors at one time? (I'm an org admin) |
| 10:37.29 | VarunAgw | !stas |
| 10:37.35 | VarunAgw | !stats |
| 10:37.36 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: I have 3 registered users with 3 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 10:37.42 | VarunAgw | !numapps |
| 10:37.42 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 13:27.30 | gsoc398 | hello |
| 13:27.39 | AbhToChill | hi |
| 13:28.08 | gsoc398 | i have not received any communication from the org ever since the application deadline. is this a bad thing? |
| 13:28.13 | gsoc398 | i am worried |
| 13:28.26 | asy | Then you should try to contact them. |
| 13:29.02 | gsoc398 | ok |
| 13:30.32 | AbhToChill | well |
| 13:30.39 | AbhToChill | u should try contacting them on irc |
| 13:31.55 | cs_shadow | gsoc398: No need to worry, its perfectly normal. Orgs are reviewing proposals and there's no need for them to contact you atm. Regardless, you should try to hang around in their irc channel, fix bugs etc |
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| 13:34.15 | gsoc398 | ok thank you |
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| 14:34.35 | AbhToChill | takes the cup of tea |
| 14:34.41 | AbhToChill | am hungry too :( |
| 14:35.08 | AbhToChill | but lazy as bum to go grab somthing to eat |
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| 15:12.55 | dberkholz | morning folks |
| 15:13.03 | AbhToChill | morning |
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| 15:15.41 | carols | hi dberkholz |
| 15:17.31 | cs_shadow | carols: Is there a feature on Melange to mail all the mentors at one time? (I'm an org admin) |
| 15:17.42 | carols | cs_shadow: no |
| 15:17.48 | carols | we donât handle that sort of stuff |
| 15:17.59 | carols | presumably you already have all your mentorsâ email addresses :-) |
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| 15:18.40 | dberkholz | heya carols! |
| 15:18.46 | cs_shadow | yes, just wanted to know if Melange had that feature. That might come handy for sending notifications |
| 15:18.51 | cs_shadow | but no woriies |
| 15:19.00 | cs_shadow | worries* |
| 15:19.03 | dberkholz | i find myself with an unusual amount of free time on my hands this week as i finished the last job and don't start the new one till monday |
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| 15:22.48 | dberkholz | wow, they really did cut down on the number of orgs this year. not just rotating out the old ones for new ones. |
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| 15:31.50 | AbhToChill | dber u a student or mentor? |
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| 16:24.16 | quaid | I've got questions about the 'wish to mentor' button (I'm org admin for CentOS Project) |
| 16:24.43 | quaid | is flipping that switch necessary to be able to put it in priority order? |
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| 16:24.57 | quaid | can I flip it for other people as org admin, or do mentors need to choose their preference and flip the switch? |
| 16:25.20 | downey | quaid: we don't use it at all |
| 16:25.27 | quaid | what if a mentor flips the switch on two proposals? |
| 16:25.44 | quaid | downey: we in which sense? meaning it's an used part of Melange? |
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| 16:25.56 | downey | quaid: as org admin you have to make sure the accept switch is on for only the number of slots you get |
| 16:26.40 | quaid | downey: can I flip the switches myself or am relying upon mentors? |
| 16:26.59 | downey | quaid: AFAIK only org Admins can use the accept proposal switch |
| 16:27.09 | quaid | downey: also, do I wait to flip accept switch until after we sort by priority and request slots & receive a number? |
| 16:27.25 | downey | quaid: we have some already turned on, but not all :-) |
| 16:27.38 | downey | Priority doesn't matter to Google |
| 16:28.03 | AbhToChill | i wanna be fliping switches :( |
| 16:28.40 | quaid | downey: ok, I guess it matters to us in that if we have e.g. 5 proposals but get 3 slots, we want our best potential/favorites in the top 3 position to get those slots. |
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| 16:29.02 | quaid | downey: oh, right, accept proposal is a separate switch from 'want to mentor' |
| 16:29.11 | downey | quaid: yeah the ranking can be done however you see fit |
| 16:29.17 | quaid | downey: so there's no penalty if we have a list of proposals, none have a mentor assigned, and we go to ask for slots? |
| 16:31.45 | downey | quaid: couldn't say |
| 16:32.02 | quaid | ok, so that's still my open question for others on this channel :) |
| 16:32.14 | downey | !slots |
| 16:32.14 | gsocbot | downey: "slots" is Slot allocation is done manually by OSPO, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask for. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2. https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/studentallocations |
| 16:32.38 | quaid | downey: thanks, that's helped; I haven't admin'd in a few years and some stuff has evolved, nervous about doing something in the wrong order or forgetting a step and disqualifying things |
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| 18:22.31 | CFS-MP3 | quaid mentors don't have to be signed up before slot allocation |
| 18:22.56 | AbhToChill | mentors can sign upto 24th am i right? |
| 18:23.04 | meflin | to the end of term |
| 18:23.22 | CFS-MP3 | AbhToChill when in doubt google "gsoc 2015 timeline" :-) |
| 18:24.00 | CFS-MP3 | Anyway this makes sense, as some people will only sign up as mentors if they get an student to mentor which depends on slots |
| 18:24.12 | AbhToChill | maybe next year to next year CFS :P student still i am :P |
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| 18:24.56 | CFS-MP3 | One of the mentors in my org last year got a T-Shirt even though he couldn't actually mentor anyone and this year he said he won't sign up until he's assured a student |
| 18:25.00 | meflin | strange are the ways of mentors .. students need not be concerned untill they come over to the dark side ;) |
| 18:27.23 | AbhToChill | :P |
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