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| 02:43.32 | zanters | Hello |
| 02:44.18 | zanters | I have a question if anyone is active? |
| 02:46.53 | scribblemaniac | just ask |
| 02:49.37 | zanters | How much programming knowledge must one have before joining? |
| 02:49.46 | Valodim | http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
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| 02:56.19 | zanters | So, what are good projects for mediocre/I-haven't-programmed-in-months prommers? |
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| 03:00.50 | scribblemaniac | I don't know if there's any one particular organization but I would suggest checking some of the orgs that interest you and see what kind of ideas they have. Many orgs are looking for documentation or demo code to be developed, which is important but does not required quite as much programming experience as actually digging in and modifying their code. |
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| 03:03.21 | olly | scribblemaniac: documentation projects aren't eligible |
| 03:03.31 | olly | for GSoC that is, they're fine for GCI |
| 03:04.19 | olly | zanters: if you haven't programmed in months, I'd pick an org, find a starter task to work on and get cracking |
| 03:04.31 | scribblemaniac | oh I was not aware of that, I saw some things along that line on some accepted orgs' ideas page so I just assumed that it was allowed |
| 03:04.47 | scribblemaniac | can you please point me to that rule, just for future reference |
| 03:05.29 | olly | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#12._Are_proposals_for_documentation_work |
| 03:06.05 | olly | it's certainly not a problem to add documentation for the new features you add, etc |
| 03:06.06 | zanters | I'd like to work close to the hardware and OS. I was thinking one of the GNU projects, maybe git. |
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| 03:06.23 | olly | git isn't a GNU project |
| 03:06.36 | scribblemaniac | olly: Thanks! |
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| 03:07.44 | zanters | I know |
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| 03:12.49 | zanters | Is it hard to get accepted |
| 03:13.53 | Valodim | well. it's not easy |
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| 13:59.59 | aa100kash | can anyone tell me that is being good at programming sufficient to apply for gsoc? |
| 14:00.35 | aa100kash | i mean i dont i dont know much about software development process and other tecnical things |
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| 14:00.59 | Valodim | http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
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| 16:46.03 | charlie | hi all |
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| 16:54.22 | garvitdelhi | hey, I would like to ask that for reviewing our application should we send it on the mailing list of organisation or to mentor personally? |
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| 17:01.30 | |Kev| | garvitdelhi: Wherever the organisation asks you too. |
| 17:02.12 | garvitdelhi | ok thanks :) |
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| 18:13.39 | gsoc842 | Hey my college id card has two sides. On the front side I have to write my name, degree am pursuing and I have to stick my photograph. On the back side the name of the institution is printed. On the front the name of the institution is not printed. |
| 18:13.41 | gsoc842 | Is it fine? |
| 18:14.26 | gsoc842 | Also the place where I have to write the course I am pusuing, I have to write it as MCA 2015-2018 does it suffice as enrollement proof ? |
| 18:15.10 | meflin | check the FAQ .. in general if your documents are not fine you will contacted after submision |
| 18:16.33 | gsoc842 | My college takes eternity to respond to document requirments and it will be summer vacation once the GSOC begins! |
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| 19:48.34 | harry123 | does anyone know if online university class taken for university credit and grade, constitute enrollment? |
| 19:48.55 | meflin | did you read the faq |
| 19:49.36 | harry123 | yes and it has "Please note that participating in online courses, even if they are with accredited universities, does not alone constitute enrollment. You must be/will be a matriculated student at the university." |
| 19:49.49 | meflin | and are you? |
| 19:50.45 | harry123 | that is the question, online university class taken for university credit and grade, constitute enrollment |
| 19:50.57 | meflin | you are enrolled or not |
| 19:51.10 | meflin | the online part has no real meaning |
| 19:51.47 | meflin | it possible in cases to be enrolled in meat space classes and not enrolled in the university for a degree |
| 19:52.29 | harry123 | ? |
| 19:52.41 | meflin | what part of that was unclear |
| 19:52.59 | harry123 | are you saying yes |
| 19:53.03 | meflin | I am not |
| 19:53.25 | meflin | I am saying you need to figure out "You must be/will be a matriculated student at the university." |
| 19:53.55 | meflin | it is ( or at least was ) in my sate to go to the top collage in physical space and not be that |
| 19:55.55 | meflin | matriculated : are you enrolled at a degree program |
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| 21:34.18 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 21:35.01 | tniessen | Good evening, carols |
| 21:35.08 | carols | hi tniessen |
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| 21:39.50 | kragniz | it's been quiet in here, recently |
| 21:41.26 | carols | kragniz: hopefully that means folks are getting their questions answered in the documentation |
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| 21:41.50 | kragniz | good point! |
| 21:43.22 | kblin | evening folks |
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| 22:17.50 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code student applications will open on 16 March at 19:00 UTC | Org rejected? You can still email for feedback at ospoteam@gmail.com | For more information about GSoC please visit google-melange.com. |
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| 23:08.42 | gsoc560 | Who decided to make chatting over IRC or xxmp chat rooms, been trying to find this all day. |
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| 23:10.17 | gsoc560 | Hello, anyone here? |
| 23:10.23 | teepee | sure |
| 23:11.20 | gsoc560 | Have you guys been sifting through the sea of projects like I have? |
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| 23:12.09 | teepee | didn't do that |
| 23:12.23 | teepee | mainly due to (hopefully) being mentor |
| 23:12.51 | teepee | but I saw some very cool projects on the list, very nice selection |
| 23:13.14 | gsoc560 | Ah, yea now that you submitted your requests, mentors can sit back and watch the coders flock. |
| 23:14.35 | gsoc560 | What is the success rate of the projects that people take on in GSOC? |
| 23:15.17 | teepee | https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramStatistics |
| 23:16.54 | gsoc560 | Wait Tepee, you are wanting to be a mentor correct? |
| 23:17.50 | teepee | indeed, I will be if we get a nice proposal or two |
| 23:18.35 | gsoc560 | Question, how comfortable are you with the fact that people sending in proposals won't know all of the languages or technologies needed to finish the project? |
| 23:19.31 | teepee | not having some specific knowledge is no problem if that's considered in the proposal |
| 23:20.04 | gsoc560 | i.e making time in the beginning of the summer to learn |
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| 23:20.33 | teepee | that's why most of the idea pages have also some easy topics to choose from |
| 23:21.25 | teepee | having no idea how to code is probably not a good basis for GSoC |
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| 23:21.39 | gsoc560 | haha, i agree |
| 23:22.36 | teepee | so I guess the essential thing is to select / propose some project that's matching the knowledge and has a chance to succeed |
| 23:22.48 | bghusky | yea that is what im trying to do |
| 23:23.29 | bghusky | there are some project ideas that are completely outside of my skill set, and others just outside and some inside. |
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| 23:23.56 | teepee | if in doubt, rule 1: talk to the org :) |
| 23:23.57 | bghusky | so im trying to batch the best two or three i can together since proposals take time |
| 23:24.25 | bghusky | i would like to, except getting on the xxmp chats has been a pain |
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| 23:25.34 | ahmed | hey |
| 23:25.45 | teepee | hi! |
| 23:25.50 | bghusky | hello |
| 23:26.24 | Guest98403 | it's my first time here in GSoC |
| 23:26.35 | Guest98403 | any advice |
| 23:26.55 | teepee | nice, welcome :) |
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| 23:27.16 | teepee | assuming as student? did you read the studen guide? |
| 23:27.23 | teepee | *student |
| 23:27.33 | Guest98403 | yeah |
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| 23:29.29 | teepee | so what specific advice are you searching for? |
| 23:31.41 | bghusky | my advice would be research any project you might find interesting, pick like 2-3 and than just fork their git repos and start reading/working. The submissions will take you a while to do, so if your going to want a company to take you on, show commitment on your end and present well. |
| 23:34.30 | Guest98403 | I'm only abeginner java programing language |
| 23:34.53 | bghusky | Pick something java based than. |
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| 23:36.23 | Guest98403 | how |
| 23:37.10 | teepee | Guest98403: you've seen the "accepted organizations" list? |
| 23:37.35 | bghusky | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015 |
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| 23:49.20 | DaSpirit | !next |
| 23:49.21 | gsocbot | DaSpirit: "next" is Student application period opens on March 16th at 19:00 UTC. |
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| 23:52.17 | BlueProtoman | Question. Do those accepted to GSOC have to relocate somewhere, or is remote work a thing? |
| 23:52.26 | DaSpirit | Remote work. |
| 23:53.06 | teepee | in some cases there's probably not even a location you could move to :) |
| 23:53.29 | BlueProtoman | DaSpirit: Nice. So how do the list of projects available work; do interested maintainers nominate their own projects, or can interested students request one? |
| 23:53.58 | DaSpirit | Both. |
| 23:54.00 | bghusky | both |
| 23:54.08 | DaSpirit | Projects have an ideas list that students can use. |
| 23:54.41 | DaSpirit | But students are free to think of their own project. |
| 23:55.59 | BlueProtoman | So what's the application process like? What stops any old schmuck from joining an existing project? |
| 23:56.39 | teepee | nothing when enrolled at some university ;) |
| 23:56.57 | DaSpirit | You write a proposal and the organizations either accept or reject you. As simple as that. |
| 23:57.21 | DaSpirit | You are recommended to contact the organization prior to submitting your proposal, so you could work out kinks if any. |
| 23:58.03 | BlueProtoman | teepee: Check |
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| 23:59.55 | BlueProtoman | DaSpirit: And by "organizations" you mean those who actually maintain an open source project? Or can an organization manage a third-party project during GSOC (presumably one they use internally, e.g. the Inkscape team and some math library)? |